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NoxObscuras
04/26/23 2:22:36 PM
#51:


Zithers posted...
hopefully florida wins

company towns are bad

government elected by the people > corporations

thanks for reading
This isn't Florida's will though. Desantis is literally abusing his political power to try and punish Disney for speaking out against him. Desantis didn't care about any of this before that.

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LightHawKnight
04/26/23 2:22:41 PM
#52:


Zithers posted...
hopefully florida wins

company towns are bad

government elected by the people > corporations

thanks for reading

Why would anyone want to support Deathsantis?

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DarthAragorn
04/26/23 2:23:55 PM
#53:


Zithers posted...
hopefully florida wins

company towns are bad

government elected by the people > corporations

thanks for reading
Stick to jerking off over overrated movies and leave politics to adults

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HylianFox
04/26/23 2:26:24 PM
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Zithers posted...
thanks for reading

"Thanks" isn't enough. I want cookies.

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Zithers
04/26/23 2:50:24 PM
#55:


NoxObscuras posted...
This isn't Florida's will though. Desantis is literally abusing his political power to try and punish Disney for speaking out against him. Desantis didn't care about any of this before that.

wouldnt be the first time a republican stumbled ass backwards into doing something good probably

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wackyteen
04/26/23 2:54:14 PM
#56:


Stupid mother fucker got the attention of the mouse.

They'll bury his political corpse somewhere we'll never find it.

In the live action Little Mermaid movie

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ZevLoveDOOM
04/26/23 2:55:46 PM
#57:


it would be gold if South Park made fun of this whole thing. lol
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MabusIncarnate
04/26/23 2:56:42 PM
#58:


Zithers hatred for the MCU is so deeply rooted that he's willing to side with DeSantis

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thronedfire2
04/26/23 2:57:40 PM
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Zithers posted...
wouldnt be the first time a republican stumbled ass backwards into doing something good probably

how is the current Florida administration being in control of the district any better than Disney running it?

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MabusIncarnate
04/26/23 2:57:44 PM
#60:


ZevLoveDOOM posted...
it would be gold if South Park made fun of this whole thing. lol
I KNOW I said this also, bring back the mafia mouse, hell make it another special. I hated how short this season was.

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Quorthon109
04/26/23 2:57:52 PM
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NoxObscuras
04/26/23 2:58:24 PM
#62:


Quorthon109 posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/5/4/AAOkKdAAEa02.jpg
Amazing

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Zithers
04/26/23 2:58:52 PM
#63:


thronedfire2 posted...
how is the current Florida administration being in control of the district any better than Disney running it?

ok fine

which conglomerate do you want to take over your city from the local government that you elected?

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thronedfire2
04/26/23 3:01:22 PM
#64:


Zithers posted...
ok fine

which conglomerate do you want to take over your city from the local government that you elected?

none, but I live in MA instead of a shithole like Florida


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Heartomaton
04/26/23 3:05:11 PM
#65:


DarthAragorn posted...
Stick to jerking off over overrated movies and leave politics to adults

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Zithers
04/26/23 3:07:43 PM
#67:


thronedfire2 posted...
none, but I live in MA instead of a shithole like Florida

sensing some cognitive dissonance here

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masterpug53
04/26/23 3:08:30 PM
#68:


Zithers posted...
ok fine

which conglomerate do you want to take over your city from the local government that you elected?

There's false equivalencies, there's lying-out-your-ass equivalencies, and finally for the absolute worst-faith arguments, there's trump equivalencies. This is toeing right up to the line of being a trump-class equivalency.

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thronedfire2
04/26/23 3:14:01 PM
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Zithers posted...
sensing some cognitive dissonance here

also no one even votes for the board that used to run Disneys district, do they? I thought Disney appointed them. But nowyouve got the fascist governor whos been personally insulted by Disney hand picking the people to run the area and you think thats better?

unless you voted for DeSantis in which case..goodbye

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thronedfire2
04/26/23 3:14:24 PM
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its pretty much all employees

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Cuticrusader09
04/26/23 3:14:47 PM
#72:


Zithers posted...


ok fine

which conglomerate do you want to take over your city from the local government that you elected?

The thing is that the Disney district has no real people really living there. Its the park, hotels, etc. I think they had twenty some people that got to live there for some voting reason, but otherwise, its not an area that people live in. These people were handpicked by Disney to live there.

But they own all the land so its not like theyll sell it to developers to put in houses or whatnot.
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VampireCoyote
04/26/23 3:16:37 PM
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all the evidence is gonna press conferences that this asshat held himself bragging about what he was doing to try to pander to right wing trolls, its pretty funny

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uwnim
04/26/23 3:17:10 PM
#74:


Zithers posted...
ok fine

which conglomerate do you want to take over your city from the local government that you elected?
Thats entirely wrong. Disney was given a district to control all those decades ago because barely anyone lived in the area back then and the state wanted to protect the taxpayers from having to pay for all the infrastructure Disney was going to need.

Then DeSantis tries to punish Disney for speaking against his agenda by having the district dissolved. When it became clear that was not possible, he had the district name changed and had the board be picked by him instead of Disney.

So regardless of which one controls it, theres no local democracy determining rules.

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uwnim
04/26/23 3:20:44 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Barely anyone lives there, iirc.

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Xatrion
04/26/23 3:21:56 PM
#76:


I'm a little out of the loop here. What'd Disney do to piss DeSatan off so bad?

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UnfairRepresent
04/26/23 3:22:48 PM
#77:


AnsestralRecall posted...
Is it possible for them both to lose? Bring financial ruin to both parties plz


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Mizznox
04/26/23 3:24:03 PM
#78:


Xatrion posted...
I'm a little out of the loop here. What'd Disney do to piss DeSatan off so bad?

Put out some mild opposition to the original "Don't Say Gay" bill

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thronedfire2
04/26/23 3:24:06 PM
#79:


Xatrion posted...
I'm a little out of the loop here. What'd Disney do to piss DeSatan off so bad?

they exercised their 1st amendment rights by speaking out against the dont say gay bill

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lolife67
04/26/23 3:25:32 PM
#80:


Zithers posted...
wouldnt be the first time a republican stumbled ass backwards into doing something good probably
Accept there's nothing good about what he's doing?
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Kaldrenthebold
04/26/23 3:28:11 PM
#81:


Zithers posted...
hopefully florida wins

company towns are bad

government elected by the people > corporations

thanks for reading

So you don't seem to know what you are talking about. Know what's worse than corporate towns (which Republicans themselves bent over backwards to create, hilariously enough)? The government infringing upon first amendment rights.

"But Kal, you idiot, Disney is a corporation!"

Yep, and of course Republicans also really wanted Citizens United and the SCOTUS decided that, yep, corporations are people too! So Ronnie Meatball literally going directly for Disney and not even obfuscating it as a general law, is a direct violation of the first amendment.

While I hate mega corps, and Disney sucks a lot out of the lot of them, I also hate people weaponizing the government cause "muh feelings". So in the end of this, when Florida loses cause it's a slam dunk case, if Republicans want to run around and tear down Citizens United, I consider that a great win.

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NoxObscuras
04/26/23 3:30:41 PM
#82:


Zithers posted...
ok fine

which conglomerate do you want to take over your city from the local government that you elected?
Disney didn't "take over" anything though. Back in 1967, Florida gave Disney control of over 24,000 acres of unused land for their Parks. They've had governance of that land ever since.

So in your analogy, Desantis is the one that's coming in and taking over. He didn't "stumble into doing something good" because his changes don't benefit anything beyond his own ego. The idea was that he'd basically have the power to deny any new construction Disney tried to make in their parks and the surrounding areas. Simply because Disney upset him.

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masterpug53
04/26/23 3:32:33 PM
#83:


Xatrion posted...
I'm a little out of the loop here. What'd Disney do to piss DeSatan off so bad?

Disney offered up some token corporate support of the LGBT community in response to DeSantis' 'Don't Say Gay' Bill (only after a sizeable chunk of Disney's workforce protested and forced their hand, mind you). DeSantis, who has a long reputation of only going after people / groups who can't fight back, likely saw a golden opportunity to look like a big boy by going toe-to-toe with Disney. Predictably, Disney has outmaneuvered him at every turn thus far.

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The_Wheelman1
04/26/23 3:35:00 PM
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I'm rooting for Disney. Hope that PoS gets a lifetime ban from Disney World.

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UnfairRepresent
04/26/23 3:38:22 PM
#85:


thronedfire2 posted...
they exercised their 1st amendment rights by speaking out against the dont say gay bill
They didn't even really "speak out" much they just cut their funding for Republicans in Florida and said they'd give it back if they stopped hating gay people.

That's how crazy this all is

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Zithers
04/26/23 3:39:48 PM
#86:


Xatrion posted...
I'm a little out of the loop here. What'd Disney do to piss DeSatan off so bad?

tried to remove their special district status that allows them to self-govern (that no other company in the state (or nation maybe?) has)

apparently people think this is a bad thing

is it only being done as retaliation because desantis is a little baby? yes. is it also objectively good if disney is treated like any other business? yes.

however if you say that you are an LGBT hating republican or sometihng i guess i dunno, not a whole lot of critical thinking going on. if a democrat governor was in charge they'd change their tune im guessing.

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thronedfire2
04/26/23 3:43:08 PM
#87:


Zithers posted...
tried to remove their special district status that allows them to self-govern (that no other company in the state (or nation maybe?) has)

apparently people think this is a bad thing

is it only being done as retaliation because desantis is a little baby? yes. is it also objectively good if disney is treated like any other business? yes.

however if you say that you are an LGBT hating republican or sometihng i guess i dunno, not a whole lot of critical thinking going on. if a democrat governor was in charge they'd change their tune im guessing.

it literally isnt objectively good unless you think adding a billion dollars per year to Floridas debt would be a good thing. Because right now Disney pays for ALL the maintenance and upkeep of that area. But if Ronny takes that power away the state will be stuck with those bills. Or just let the entire area crumble out of spite until Disney leaves, which is much more likely

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uwnim
04/26/23 3:43:26 PM
#88:


Zithers posted...
tried to remove their special district status that allows them to self-govern (that no other company in the state (or nation maybe?) has)

apparently people think this is a bad thing

is it only being done as retaliation because desantis is a little baby? yes. is it also objectively good if disney is treated like any other business? yes.

however if you say that you are an LGBT hating republican or sometihng i guess i dunno, not a whole lot of critical thinking going on. if a democrat governor was in charge they'd change their tune im guessing.

Removing their district is a bad thing, yes. As youd know if you had any knowledge on why they got it in the first place.

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Zithers
04/26/23 3:44:30 PM
#89:


thronedfire2 posted...
it literally isnt objectively good unless you think adding a billion dollars per year to Floridas debt would be a good thing. Because right now Disney pays for ALL the maintenance and upkeep of that area. But if Ronny takes that power away the state will be stuck with those bills. Or just let the entire area crumble out of spite until Disney leaves, which is much more likely

and then floridians will shit their pants and elect democrats who are able to solve their financial issues

huge W

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UnfairRepresent
04/26/23 3:44:59 PM
#90:


uwnim posted...
As youd know if you had any knowledge
There's the problem

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Mizznox
04/26/23 3:45:02 PM
#91:


Zithers posted...
tried to remove their special district status that allows them to self-govern (that no other company in the state (or nation maybe?) has)

You might want to re-read their question

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Master_Kazuya
04/26/23 3:45:30 PM
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Disney owns everything, good luck

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masterpug53
04/26/23 3:45:31 PM
#93:


Zithers posted...
tried to remove their special district status that allows them to self-govern (that no other company in the state (or nation maybe?) has)

apparently people think this is a bad thing

is it only being done as retaliation because desantis is a little baby? yes. is it also objectively good if disney is treated like any other business? yes.

however if you say that you are an LGBT hating republican or sometihng i guess i dunno, not a whole lot of critical thinking going on. if a democrat governor was in charge they'd change their tune im guessing.

Okay, so, here were your options:
Option A: actually acknowledge the numerous posts that ripped your stance to shreds, and either successfully defend your stance and grow as a person, or learn from your mistakes and grow as a person
Option B: feebly attempt to passive-aggression your way to sympathy points by glomming onto a user who just showed up in the topic and doesn't know any better

Should've gone with A!

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Kaldrenthebold
04/26/23 3:46:10 PM
#94:


Zithers posted...
and then floridians will shit their pants and elect democrats who are able to solve their financial issues

huge W

You...just don't know reality, huh?

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04/26/23 3:53:57 PM
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NoxObscuras
04/26/23 4:07:20 PM
#97:


Zithers posted...
tried to remove their special district status that allows them to self-govern (that no other company in the state (or nation maybe?) has)

apparently people think this is a bad thing
Try again. There are 1,844 other special districts in Florida. Including, The Villages, which is owned by a billionaire and his family.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article261734447.html

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Cuticrusader09
04/26/23 4:17:57 PM
#98:


shockthemonkey posted...

Bro its not even a real fucking city, thats the thing. Its a tourist resort that Disney pays to maintain so that the state doesnt have to because Disney will actually do a better job.

Fuck Disney in general, but I havent seen a single piece of evidence that this would be better off in the hands of the government. This is like an actually well maintained, clean place from everything Ive seen and read. Feel free to convince me otherwise, but right now all youre doing is throwing shit at a wall.

What do they think about this? Cuz if living in a Disney town is better for them (considering the history of company towns) then I dont see any way in which a district that will be neglected out of spite will be better for them. But I also dont actually know for sure whether theyre getting fucked in this deal.


Disney keeps their roads in good shape, no shitty potholes.

As for the people who live there, they have to pay $75 a month for the mobile home lot they have which is pretty cheap tbh.
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SuperShake666
04/26/23 5:35:19 PM
#99:


Zithers posted...
which conglomerate do you want to take over your city from the local government that you elected?

There wasn't a city there till Disney built it.

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CableZL
04/26/23 5:39:43 PM
#100:


IMO, until Zithers actually displays some factual knowledge about the subject, it isn't worth continuing to go back and forth. All he's doing is dragging the conversation down and getting other people to provide proof of the basic facts of the matter that he clearly has no knowledge of.

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