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refmon
04/21/23 6:30:31 PM
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https://variety.com/2023/tv/global/queen-cleopatra-black-netflix-egypt-1235590708/

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MICHALECOLE
04/21/23 6:32:11 PM
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I bet cleopatra was Mexican
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catfan2008
04/21/23 6:35:26 PM
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-65322821

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Kim_Seong-a
04/21/23 6:37:03 PM
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We already had a black Cleopatra tho

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/6/8/AAe6eNAAEZ80.jpg

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deoxxys
04/21/23 6:38:13 PM
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It doesnt

Media shouldnt whitewash or blackwash though at this point its going to happen so *shrug*
Who cares anymore?

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Ratchetrockon
04/21/23 6:40:16 PM
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Doesn't bother me i see it as a mockumentary.

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YellowSUV
04/21/23 6:42:49 PM
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"It is more likely that Cleopatra looked like our actor than Elizabeth Taylor ever did."

It is almost like dramas and documentaries have totally different standards and expectations!

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EbonTitanium
04/21/23 6:43:18 PM
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Personally, I just think its dumb to keep pushing this myth.

Africa has more history than just Ancient Egypt.

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Allende
04/21/23 6:46:32 PM
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Kim_Seong-a posted...
We already had a black Cleopatra tho

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/6/8/AAe6eNAAEZ80.jpg

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ThyCorndog
04/21/23 7:46:14 PM
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it's a bit silly if it's passed for as fact, like when the producer or writer or whoever it was that said something along the lines of "forget what the history books told you, cleopatra was black". but otherwise it doesn't really matter. the mummy, famously set in egypt, had no egyptian actors for the cast

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R1masher
04/21/23 8:12:41 PM
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I dont even know what Cleo did to get famous, could be a white lady for all I care

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MICHALECOLE
04/21/23 8:36:21 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

As everybody who has recently become experts on Egypt will tell you, she was Greek
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refmon
04/21/23 8:39:06 PM
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ThyCorndog posted...
the mummy, famously set in egypt, had no egyptian actors for the cast
this is a documentary

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Ricemills
04/21/23 8:40:42 PM
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I'm just waiting on the inevitable debate in whether Cleopatra white or olive or brown skinned.

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VampireCoyote
04/21/23 8:40:46 PM
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Because there are too many films

no more films for 6 years, then well see what folks have come up with

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HannibalBarca3
04/21/23 8:47:47 PM
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https://old.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/12r6rgc/was_cleopatra_black/jgw2nv9/?context=3

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JuanCarlos1
04/21/23 8:50:08 PM
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Not against it, but I do think historical figures should be played accurately.

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WBC_Injury
04/21/23 8:53:24 PM
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I'm pretty sure Greeks were darker skinned to the point where they would be considered non-white by 19th century standards, and Egyptians were at the very least brown skinned.

Neither civilizations looked like western Europe.
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s0nicfan
04/21/23 8:56:15 PM
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It's ahistorical, but as long as everone acknowledges that the Netflix documentary is a vanity project on the tier of Ancient Aliens then I guess we're all good.

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ChrisReeve
04/21/23 9:00:21 PM
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Why does the author assume a show or movie (whatever this is) that doesn't interest me at all bothers me? Cleopatra is probably one of the most uninteresting people from history aside from her relationship with Caesar.

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cjsdowg
04/21/23 9:02:48 PM
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I don't like it. Cleopatra was a faker. Who whole thing was that she was some outside who lie and said that she was this and that.

She literally helped Mark Antony lose everything. Oh top of everything else.

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MICHALECOLE
04/21/23 9:07:42 PM
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ChrisReeve posted...
Why does the author assume a show or movie (whatever this is) that doesn't interest me at all bothers me? Cleopatra is probably one of the most uninteresting people from history aside from her relationship with Caesar.
Did you read that as if she was talking directly to you? Is that what you thought?

and really? The most uninteresting person in all of history? Less interesting than the president Chester Arthur?
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ChrisReeve
04/21/23 9:10:53 PM
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ChrisReeve posted...
one of the most


https://youtu.be/33rx2A1VuAQ

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pfh1001
04/21/23 9:12:28 PM
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Jada Pinkett's insane conspiracy theory fanfiction shouldn't be labeled as a documentary.
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MICHALECOLE
04/21/23 9:12:35 PM
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This dude loves Chester Arthur
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Zikten
04/21/23 9:19:45 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/7/1/AABd5gAAEZ-b.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/7/2/AABd5gAAEZ-c.jpg those are apparently Greek women, according to Google. This is likely similar to what Cleopatra looked like. I doubt she would be what modern society calls black. Her family did not mix with others. They would have been "pure bred" greek
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Ricemills
04/21/23 9:58:23 PM
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This topic needs @SailorGoon, but he's been missing for almost a year.

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TMOG
04/21/23 10:00:15 PM
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I wonder how many people mad about black Cleopatra are also perfectly fine with white Jesus
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yusiko
04/21/23 10:03:33 PM
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it bothers me because cleopatra is a white woman
also a stripper
and she lived in the year 2525 fighting to reclaim the earth for the humans after man kind was driven underground by machines

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Vyrulisse
04/21/23 10:05:29 PM
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pfh1001 posted...
Jada Pinkett's insane conspiracy theory fanfiction shouldn't be labeled as a documentary.


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VampireCoyote
04/21/23 10:06:39 PM
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why does it matter

what

her skin color

why does it

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ChrisReeve
04/21/23 10:07:29 PM
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VampireCoyote posted...
why does it matter

what

her skin color

why does it


It doesnt

matter since

I wasnt watching it

regardless of who they cast

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HannibalBarca3
04/21/23 10:09:17 PM
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TMOG posted...
I wonder how many people mad about black Cleopatra are also perfectly fine with white Jesus
Or Greeks/Romans speaking with American or British accents.

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Bad_Mojo
04/21/23 10:33:36 PM
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Seeing topics about it. The Internet has ruined everyone's lives

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Pogo_Marimo
04/21/23 10:48:42 PM
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People put far more thought into the color of her skin now than they ever did in Ptolemic Egypt. Kind of tells you how much both sides are missing the point and pretty much "Americanizing" a documentary about Ancient Egypt.

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yusiko
04/21/23 10:54:02 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]



It was made by the same people who made xena which was also a lame cheesy eye candy show but fun

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YellowSUV
04/21/23 10:57:13 PM
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TMOG posted...
I wonder how many people mad about black Cleopatra are also perfectly fine with white Jesus

Bold of you to assume there is a historical Jesus.

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Null_Gain
04/21/23 11:15:27 PM
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Faux News has jumped onto the blackwashed Cleopatra outrage as well.

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Noumena
04/21/23 11:36:13 PM
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Call me Mark Antony lol

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deoxxys
04/21/23 11:51:59 PM
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Zikten posted...
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Good Lord that's a fine woman

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EbonTitanium
04/21/23 11:55:55 PM
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yusiko posted...
it bothers me because cleopatra is a white woman
also a stripper
and she lived in the year 2525 fighting to reclaim the earth for the humans after man kind was driven underground by machines
I miss cheesy show like this.

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deoxxys
04/22/23 12:01:59 AM
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TMOG posted...
I wonder how many people mad about black Cleopatra are also perfectly fine with white Jesus
Jesus is overly portrayed as very white but he should be Hebrew which is modern day Palestine/Israel.

I personally always have had problems with white washing, I'm not going to change my tune now that the coin is flipped.

YellowSUV posted...
Bold of you to assume there is a historical Jesus.
Pretty sure must historians agree that there was a Jesus just not that he was the son of God.

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VampireCoyote
04/22/23 12:06:50 AM
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deoxxys posted...
Jesus is overly portrayed as very white but he should be Hebrew which is modern day Palestine/Israel.

I personally always have had problems with white washing, I'm not going to change my tune now that the coin is flipped.

Pretty sure must historians agree that there was a Jesus just not that he was the son of God.

there is general agreement but there is actually zero historical evidence that Jesus existed

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Zikten
04/22/23 12:09:04 AM
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I'm not convinced there is solid evidence of Jesus. The only non biblical records I've ever seen are just people mentioning that people believe he existed. Basically just Romans commenting that Christianity is a thing. But I have seen nothing that proves Jesus existed

But if he did exist he'd look like an Arab probably
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kingdrake2
04/22/23 12:10:43 AM
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Allende posted...
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i'm currently making other people displeased by my actions.

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