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hyperskate65
04/16/23 12:00:42 PM
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AmericaTheBrave posted...
Respect fat people.

Don't fat-shame. Be better. Health at Every Size.

No. Stop glamorizing this shit and pretending it's okay. It isn't. She's not healthy at that size. She's not being better, and now she's so okay with it that she's demanding extra seats on an airplane to take away from someone else's experience. No.

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DKBananaSlamma
04/16/23 12:01:06 PM
#53:


TaylorHeinicke posted...
Fucking lmfao Jesus Christ

This is worse than the gamefaqs block feature

And she's STILL getting radioed into oblivion. That's hysterical
Literally what did she expect to happen? She brought this on herself

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brestugo
04/16/23 12:12:07 PM
#54:


ShineboxPhil posted...
Her head in her twitter avatar looks like a thumb

I legit don't want to pile on her here, but she barely fits in the avatar. I have friends who struggled with weight and those that got help got to a size they were happier with.

There's all kinds of possible reasons for being that overweight, but there's all kinds of help available too. She needs help.

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Solar_Crimson
04/16/23 12:19:00 PM
#55:


boxoto posted...
I mean, it sucks if they feel humiliated by it, but any other person would also be charged extra for taking up more than one seat.
This.

https://twitter.com/CheggyWop/status/1647266763489398787

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-Onda-
04/16/23 1:05:10 PM
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tweet with 4 likes
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Xatrion
04/16/23 1:12:01 PM
#57:


You pay for a seat on an airplane. You take up more than one seat, you pay for another. That's not fatphobic. That's fairness.

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Tom_Joad
04/16/23 1:15:22 PM
#58:


Before everyone throws shade at the lady, read this:

Shrinking Economy Airline Seats Are Dangerous for Passengers, According to an Aviation Expert

https://www.cntraveler.com/story/airline-seat-sizes-safety-risks-op-ed

No, youre not imagining that economy class airline seat sizes have gotten tighter. They certainly have, gradually but quite consistently for more than 25 years now. As passengers, were all the proverbial frogs in hot water, and were quickly approaching the boiling point.

Tighter seats are more than just a figurative and often physical paintheyre a threat to your health, and even your life if theres an emergency evacuation from the plane cabin. In 2018, Congress told the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), the government agency responsible for the publics flying safety, to set seat-size minimums that would protect passenger safety.

As part of the process for deciding what minimum seat dimensions should be, the FAA recently solicited public comments on airline seats. Before the comment period ended in early November, the agency received more than 26,000 overwhelmingly negative comments detailing why current airline seats are uncomfortable, pose health risks, and are not conducive to passenger safety. (My organization, American Economic Liberties Project, where Im a senior fellow for aviation, also submitted comments.)

Now the FAA is evaluating the comments as the next step in setting minimum airline seat sizes. In the meantime, heres why shrinking airline seats are dangerous to passengers' health and safety.

Fact: Seats are much smaller today than in previous decades

The Big Four domestic carriersAmerican, Delta, Southwest, and Unitedhave lost anywhere from 2 inches to 5 inches in legroom pitch, and 2 inches in seat width since the 1980s. (The average legroom pitch today clocks in at about 31 inches.) On ultra-low-cost carriers such as Spirit Airlines, legroom pitch has decreased even more, dipping as low as a miserable 28 inches.

While those decreasing sizes are certainly uncomfortable, the implications of smaller seats are more alarming than feeling cramped during your flight. No U.S. airlines economy seats currently meet the FAAs own research standards for the amount of room needed for proper bracing, a safety position in which passengers bend their upper torsos and lean their heads against the seat in front of them during an emergency. This in itself should be enough to regulate increases in seat sizes.

Most disturbing of all is how tighter seats impede safe egress during an emergency evacuation. Federal regulations require a full aircraft to be safely evacuated within 90 seconds, and cramped seating threatens that benchmark. To cite one real-world example, when Delta Air Lines Flight 1086 veered off a runway at New Yorks LaGuardia Airport in 2015, evacuation took five minutes rather than 90 secondsthat's 333 percent longer than the FAA mandate, according to a Department of Transportation report on the incident.

Despite troubling examples like this, the FAA has not actively conducted emergency evacuation testing since the 1990s, and subsequently, an entire generation of new airlines and new aircraft have been certified to lesser standards.

Less room for emergency procedures

As airlines increase fees for checked baggage, it prompts more passengers to bring bigger personal items. Naturally, these carry-ons are stored under the seat and chip away at already too-small legroom. Plus, more under-seat baggagecombined with other factors like ubiquitous charging cords and fuller airline cabinsall further complicate emergency plane evacuations.

Additionally, American fliers today are larger on average as seat dimensions continue to decrease. The result can be a painful experience for many travelers. In fact, according to a CBS News analysis of the FAA comments, more than 200 commenters used the word torture to describe flying in todays economy seats. "The current seats are too small for Americans of average size, myself included," wrote one commenter, according to CBS. I worry that this will significantly impact my ability to quickly evacuate the aircraft in case of emergency.

Lost value for travelers

The airline economy or coach seat has been losing value for decades now. Economy passengers dollars dont stretch as far as they used to when purchasing airfares, as theyre nickeled-and-dimed for space and other benefits. The industry often claims that airfares have fallen over the years, but the products theyre comparing are apples and oranges due to the degradation of seat sizes and many other services that currently incur fees like seat selection and snacks.

Inaccessible seats for travelers with disabilities

The smaller seat dimensions present specific access problems for 61 million Americans with disabilities: Less space makes it much more difficult to transfer from a wheelchair to an economy seat, for example. Smaller seats also pose medical hazards. They can induce clotting issues such as deep vein thrombosis, which has caused fatalities for airline passengers.

It's past time to act

As part of the FAA comment period, I recommended that the agency make three major changes in the interest of passenger health and safety:

Immediately impose a moratorium on the further shrinking of airline seats

Establish minimum standards of 32 inches in legroom pitch and 20 inches in width

Revamp its emergency evacuation testing standards (which have not been updated in decades) to reflect the seismic changes occurring in fuller airline cabins

The FAA cannot continue to delay action on such a life-threatening issue; it must issue a new ruling that will protect all air travelers. Additionally, the agency must realize it works for the flying public, not the airlines that would cram us into tighter and more dangerous seating configurations to boost their bottom lines. The agency needs to ignore flawed research and listen to safety and consumer experts, as well as the American public itself: Tight seats are more than just problematic, theyre downright dangerous.


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DKBananaSlamma
04/16/23 1:37:19 PM
#59:


So basically her taking up tons of space is even more dangerous than we thought

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Kloe_Rinz
04/16/23 1:38:06 PM
#60:


I will agree airline seats need to be bigger, but not just for fat people
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Lost_All_Senses
04/16/23 1:39:22 PM
#61:


How would getting something free be less humiliating? If anything it would just make others who go on planes more spiteful towards you and notice your inconveniencing of others more....

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RyukSan
04/16/23 2:38:31 PM
#63:


@Tom_Joad

I think people are aware airlines have been doing those things. That still doesn't excuse this woman. Like at all.

She is choosing a poor lifestyle and wants the world to accommodate that, for free.
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kage_53
04/16/23 2:41:15 PM
#64:


Maybe she should lose weight instead
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Vyrulisse
04/16/23 2:47:40 PM
#65:


Kaiganeer posted...
just put them into the cargo bay
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Philip027
04/16/23 3:28:48 PM
#66:


It's remarkable how many people here are trying to pin this on "fat people" instead of, y'know, the airlines making the seats as small and unaccomodating as possible in order to cram in as many people as they can so *of course* stuff like this would happen eventually.

Many of these same people will then go turn around and lecture other people on the internet about how it's wrong to victim blame, remaining blissfully unaware of their hypocrisy.
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BurmesePenguin
04/16/23 3:30:41 PM
#67:


Philip027 posted...
It's remarkable how many people here are trying to pin this on "fat people" instead of, y'know, the airlines making the seats as small and unaccomodating as possible in order to cram in as many people as they can so *of course* stuff like this would happen eventually.

Many of these same people will then go turn around and lecture other people on the internet about how it's wrong to victim blame, remaining blissfully unaware of their hypocrisy.
Airlines making seats small is not an attack on overweight people and they are not being victimized by it.

You shouldn't blame fat people, you should blame this dumb bitch who is saying these stupid things.
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Philip027
04/16/23 3:32:48 PM
#68:


BurmesePenguin posted...
Airlines making seats small is not an attack on overweight people and they are not being victimized by it.

You shouldn't blame fat people, you should blame this dumb bitch who is saying these stupid things.

I already know who I'm blaming, and it is not either of the things you are suggesting.
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-Onda-
04/16/23 3:36:10 PM
#69:


Yeah it's the airlines' fault they ate all those fries and apple turnovers
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BurmesePenguin
04/16/23 3:36:20 PM
#70:


It's capitalism, right?
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Lost_All_Senses
04/16/23 3:44:03 PM
#72:


Philip027 posted...
It's remarkable how many people here are trying to pin this on "fat people" instead of, y'know, the airlines making the seats as small and unaccomodating as possible in order to cram in as many people as they can so *of course* stuff like this would happen eventually.

Many of these same people will then go turn around and lecture other people on the internet about how it's wrong to victim blame, remaining blissfully unaware of their hypocrisy.

Just cause someone thinks it doesn't make sense to make every seat support a 400 pound person, doesn't mean they think the airlines are doing everything right. There's a lot of middleground. How many airlines would not exist if they had to cut their profits in half. Excuse the pun, but how many would of never even made it off the ground?

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TheLiarParadox
04/16/23 3:49:30 PM
#73:


Philip027 posted...
It's remarkable how many people here are trying to pin this on "fat people" instead of, y'know, the airlines making the seats as small and unaccomodating as possible in order to cram in as many people as they can so *of course* stuff like this would happen eventually.

Many of these same people will then go turn around and lecture other people on the internet about how it's wrong to victim blame, remaining blissfully unaware of their hypocrisy.
I say this from personal experience: the kind of person who has trouble to the point of needing an extra seat would need more than the space tightwad airlines have taken away.

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RyukSan
04/16/23 4:01:22 PM
#74:


Philip027 posted...
It's remarkable how many people here are trying to pin this on "fat people" instead of, y'know, the airlines making the seats as small and unaccomodating as possible in order to cram in as many people as they can so *of course* stuff like this would happen eventually.

Many of these same people will then go turn around and lecture other people on the internet about how it's wrong to victim blame, remaining blissfully unaware of their hypocrisy.
You are making a lot of assumptions that is a lot to unpack.

I judge shit on a case by case basis, and this woman is no victim. So your analogy to "victim blaming" is laugh worthy.

The airlines actions of trying to cram people is not am excuse for being a 2+ seat sized woman wanting a free seat.
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Antifar
04/16/23 4:04:57 PM
#75:


https://twitter.com/VinceMancini/status/1567176696197152772?s=20

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DipDipDiver
04/16/23 4:07:40 PM
#76:


I wish I could buy an extra seat for more leg room. Being tall on a plane fucking sucks. Best I can hope for is the front row
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The_shibe
04/16/23 4:11:36 PM
#77:


She is fat. And she is entitled.

But let's be honest, seats have been getting smaller and smaller. She would probably fit in a seat from the 1980s or even 1990s just fine. Last time I checked some seats had the width of 2 iphones put next to each other, that's not enough for anyone.

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Lost_All_Senses
04/16/23 4:15:04 PM
#78:


DipDipDiver posted...
I wish I could buy an extra seat for more leg room. Being tall on a plane fucking sucks. Best I can hope for is the front row

It's wild I never heard a tall person mention this yet and being tall is something no one actually has control over. Empathetic for your discomfort :/. I once rode on a plane with a hemorrhoid while I ran out of my pain meds for my back simultaneously lol

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Tom_Joad
04/16/23 5:03:24 PM
#79:


RyukSan posted...
@Tom_Joad

I think people are aware airlines have been doing those things. That still doesn't excuse this woman. Like at all.

She is choosing a poor lifestyle and wants the world to accommodate that, for free.

While that's true, consider these:

  1. Are her shoulders and arms oversized compared to a normal-sized man's shoulders/arms? If they are the same sizes, then a normal man can't fit in the seat.
  2. Given that airlines keep shrinking the size of the seats, there might come a day when the average seat size on an airline will only fit someone that is 5' 0" (with a weight of 100-120 pounds), ie: a petite woman. Would you be saying the same thing in that case?
Given that the average height/width of humans beings has been steadily increasing over the last 200 years or so, the size of airline seats should be increasing to meet the increase. Not the reverse.

(I'm not talking about overweight people, but of how the average height of a man is now 5'10". Yet 20 years ago, that was 5' 9". And in 1970, it was 5' 8", and so on.)

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RyukSan
04/16/23 5:28:00 PM
#80:


Tom_Joad posted...
Are her shoulders and arms oversized compared to a normal-sized man's shoulders/arms? If they are the same sizes, then a normal man can't fit in the seat.
They are larger than a normal sized man's arms. A normal male could fit in the seat. This overweight woman was not the size of a normal sized male who isn't overweight.

Your number 2 is hyperbolic.

Yes airlines seats have been shrinking, but not enough that an average male couldn't fit. The average male just can't spread out like they use to anymore. We Americans just want everything plus sized, with anything less being viewed as unacceptable.

This woman has no sympathy whatsoever from me.
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Tom_Joad
04/16/23 5:33:05 PM
#81:


RyukSan posted...
They are larger than a normal sized man's arms. A normal male could fit in the seat. This overweight woman was not the size of a normal sized male who isn't overweight.

Your number 2 is hyperbolic.

Yes airlines seats have been shrinking, but not enough that an average male couldn't fit. The average male just can't spread out like they use to anymore.

The thing is, bone structure doesn't change with your weight. Your shoulder measurements don't suddenly double if you double your weight.

And based on her picture, her shoulders are normal. And her arms are about as big around as the Rock's. (all fat instead of muscle, though)

So I'd say an economy seat should be wide enough to fit the Rock. And if it was, she'd probably fit in it (tightly).

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BurmesePenguin
04/16/23 5:33:43 PM
#82:


Tom_Joad posted...
While that's true, consider these:

1. Are her shoulders and arms oversized compared to a normal-sized man's shoulders/arms? If they are the same sizes, then a normal man can't fit in the seat.
2. Given that airlines keep shrinking the size of the seats, there might come a day when the average seat size on an airline will only fit someone that is 5' 0" (with a weight of 100-120 pounds), ie: a petite woman. Would you be saying the same thing in that case?
Given that the average height/width of humans beings has been steadily increasing over the last 200 years or so, the size of airline seats should be increasing to meet the increase. Not the reverse.

(I'm not talking about overweight people, but of how the average height of a man is now 5'10". Yet 20 years ago, that was 5' 9". And in 1970, it was 5' 8", and so on.)
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Beveren_Rabbit
04/16/23 5:35:44 PM
#83:


obesity is a disability and it's unfair that she have to pay more to have her health condition accommodated.

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RyukSan
04/16/23 5:36:07 PM
#84:


BurmesePenguin posted...
Is this peak slippery slope?
Yes.

He's even arguing this woman is the same size as an average non overweight male. She is not.
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asdf8562
04/16/23 5:37:14 PM
#85:


Beveren_Rabbit posted...
obesity is a disability and it's unfair that she have to pay more to have her health condition accommodated.

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BurmesePenguin
04/16/23 5:38:34 PM
#86:


Beveren_Rabbit posted...
obesity is a disability and it's unfair that she have to pay more to have her health condition accommodated.
Everyone has to pay to have their health conditions cared for. Maybe she should find an insurance agency that will subsidize her extra airplane seat.
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Beveren_Rabbit
04/16/23 5:42:07 PM
#87:


She is a person, not a package. why should she have to pay for her weight?

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hyperskate65
04/16/23 5:43:20 PM
#88:


Beveren_Rabbit posted...
She is a person, not a package. why should she have to pay for her weight?

uhhh... what?

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BurmesePenguin
04/16/23 5:43:53 PM
#89:


Because its her weight that's causing an issue.

Just like people under a certain height are barred from some carnival rides.
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TheLiarParadox
04/16/23 5:44:02 PM
#90:


Tom_Joad posted...
The thing is, bone structure doesn't change with your weight. Your shoulder measurements don't suddenly double if you double your weight.

And based on her picture, her shoulders are normal. And her arms are about as big around as the Rock's. (all fat instead of muscle, though)

So I'd say an economy seat should be wide enough to fit the Rock. And if it was, she'd probably fit in it (tightly).
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DKBananaSlamma
04/16/23 5:45:13 PM
#91:


Tom_Joad posted...
The thing is, bone structure doesn't change with your weight. Your shoulder measurements don't suddenly double if you double your weight.

And based on her picture, her shoulders are normal. And her arms are about as big around as the Rock's. (all fat instead of muscle, though)

So I'd say an economy seat should be wide enough to fit the Rock. And if it was, she'd probably fit in it (tightly).
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/1/8/AAfOu0AAEY42.jpg

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asdf8562
04/16/23 5:45:25 PM
#92:


Beveren_Rabbit posted...
She is a person, not a package. why should she have to pay for her weight?
Why shouldn't she? She is taking up a seat someone else could have and pay for.

Why should she get an extra seat for free because she can't reconsider her diet?
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DrizztLink
04/16/23 5:46:37 PM
#93:


DKBananaSlamma posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/1/8/AAfOu0AAEY42.jpg
The new James Bond looks great

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asdf8562
04/16/23 5:47:12 PM
#94:


Tom_Joad posted...
The thing is, bone structure doesn't change with your weight. Your shoulder measurements don't suddenly double if you double your weight.

And based on her picture, her shoulders are normal. And her arms are about as big around as the Rock's. (all fat instead of muscle, though)

So I'd say an economy seat should be wide enough to fit the Rock. And if it was, she'd probably fit in it (tightly).
I can't tell if this is a serious post lololol.
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DKBananaSlamma
04/16/23 5:56:07 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/3/3/AAfOu0AAEY5F.jpg

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hyperskate65
04/16/23 5:57:51 PM
#96:


DKBananaSlamma posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/3/3/AAfOu0AAEY5F.jpg

give that woman an extra seat PRO BONO

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whateveroh
04/16/23 6:01:39 PM
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If you get so fat that you require two seats on a plane, bus, or train then you need to make changes instead of requiring other people to.

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legendarylemur
04/16/23 6:04:51 PM
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How much do you gotta fucking eat to be double the size of a person, goddamn

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Lost_All_Senses
04/16/23 6:27:23 PM
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This guy said "The Rock" lol. I think The Rock would be flattered to have to pay for an extra seat.

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whateveroh
04/16/23 6:36:38 PM
#101:


DKBananaSlamma posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/3/3/AAfOu0AAEY5F.jpg

Is that fat Aloy from Horizon?

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