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Norman_Smiley
04/09/23 7:19:15 PM
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And a Japanese player is en route to being the GOAT in the game.
And a Japanese player is the best hitter of all time.

The "World Series" winner should go on to play the best NPB team each year.

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WBC_Injury
04/09/23 7:22:43 PM
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That's because baseball hasn't been played at a professional level in years. Pitch clocks, bigger bases, 3 batter minimum for pitchers, ghost runner, etc. Japan still plays baseball. America plays Manfredball.
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Garabandal
04/09/23 7:22:47 PM
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Japan is truly the greatest country

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R_Jackal
04/09/23 7:23:01 PM
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NFL is our passtime now, America fell out of love with MLB a while ago unfortunately.
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Gritty
04/09/23 7:24:17 PM
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R_Jackal posted...
NFL is our passtime now, America fell out of love with MLB a while ago unfortunately.
Steroids was the death bell
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WBC_Injury
04/09/23 7:25:49 PM
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Gritty posted...
Steroids was the death bell

Steroids brought the game back. It was dead prior to 1998.
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R_Jackal
04/09/23 7:27:12 PM
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WBC_Injury posted...
Steroids brought the game back. It was dead prior to 1998.
This, sadly. Once people realized baseball was mostly only fun for math we had to abandon it lol.

But seriously it's because the hype moments are way more common in football and basketball.
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R1masher
04/09/23 7:28:08 PM
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Gritty posted...
Steroids was the death bell

death knell*

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Antifar
04/09/23 7:28:43 PM
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WBC_Injury posted...
That's because baseball hasn't been played at a professional level in years. Pitch clocks, bigger bases, 3 batter minimum for pitchers, ghost runner, etc. Japan still plays baseball. America plays Manfredball.

Half those rule changes only went into effect in competitive games after this most recent WBC; the other half after Japan's two previous WBC victories.

I dunno I feel like maybe the cause is something else.

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Deku_Link
04/09/23 7:29:01 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-0MBu0bzU4

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WBC_Injury
04/09/23 7:31:06 PM
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Antifar posted...
Half those rule changes only went into effect in competitive games after this most recent WBC; the other half after Japan's two previous WBC victories.

I dunno I feel like maybe the cause is something else.

We don't play baseball. We play Manfredball.
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Norman_Smiley
04/09/23 7:33:10 PM
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Deku_Link posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-0MBu0bzU4

lol, that was good

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Antifar
04/09/23 7:34:05 PM
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Buddy they end games in ties in Japan; your pet peeves with MLB rule changes are probably not the deciding factor in World Baseball Classic performance

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WBC_Injury
04/09/23 7:34:58 PM
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Antifar posted...
Buddy they end games in ties in Japan; your pet peeves with MLB rule changes are probably not the deciding factor in World Baseball Classic performance

Japanese ballplayers do not play differently because they know their game could theoretically end in a tie. The rules are still the same.

Japan still plays baseball. America plays Manfredball.
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WBC_Injury
04/09/23 7:36:21 PM
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Also, Japan doesn't fuck with the ball every year. Manfredball changes them every year. Some years they are juiced. Some years they are anti juiced.
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Antifar
04/09/23 7:36:42 PM
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Please explain how the runner on second in extra innings impacted the outcome of games that did not go to extra innings

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I4NRulez
04/09/23 7:36:51 PM
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USA didnt bring pitching. Nick Martinez started a game for them and Nick Martinez is like 8th best pitches on the Padres.

Japan had much better pitching.

I wouldnt say Japanese baseball is better but their team this year was better.

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WBC_Injury
04/09/23 7:37:51 PM
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Antifar posted...
Please explain how the runner on second in extra innings impacted the outcome of games that did not go to extra innings

I'm going to change the rules so that when extra innings come around, the players have to play naked and use cotton candy bats.

Please explain how this dramatic rule change impacted the outcome of games that did not go into extra innings. Clearly this means it is still baseball.
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WBC_Injury
04/09/23 7:38:31 PM
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This isn't hard. Japan still plays the rules of baseball. USA plays by a different set of rules that baseball leagues don't play.
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gasgpmo
04/09/23 7:46:21 PM
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Japan is better at _________ than America
Wow, that's shocking. I'm really shocked.
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Intro2Logic
04/09/23 7:48:36 PM
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Given the statistical randomness of baseball:
https://ecommons.luc.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1025&context=math_facpubs
In order to approach the level of parity (or lack thereof) of the NBA playoffs, MLB would have to switch to a 16-team tournament in which each round was approximately 75-game series

I don't think you should make sweeping declarations on national quality based on a sample-size of one head-to-head game between inequally chosen rosters.

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dameon_reaper
04/09/23 7:50:05 PM
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I know its not something you should count but I watch an anime called Major(every season. Was obsessed with it) and it seemed that pretty much Japan plays 'small ball' while America plays to hit as hard as possible.

I'm not too keen on the differences between Japan's baseball and America's baseball but I assumed that there's more tactic in play in Japan.

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Delirious_Beard
04/09/23 8:07:40 PM
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But they arent lol

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K181
04/09/23 8:11:36 PM
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Japan produces fantastic players for sure, but the difference is that Japan (and Korea) gives a shit about the WBC, whereas the USA just doesn't.

Give me a playoff series with everybody giving a shit, and I'd venture a guess that the USA would be better.

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WBC_Injury
04/09/23 8:14:30 PM
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K181 posted...
Japan produces fantastic players for sure, but the difference is that Japan (and Korea) gives a shit about the WBC, whereas the USA just doesn't.

Give me a playoff series with everybody giving a shit, and I'd venture a guess that the USA would be better.

Latin America would also destroy the US.
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K181
04/09/23 8:16:07 PM
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WBC_Injury posted...
Latin America would also destroy the US.

Possibly, but only if you combined the entire region rather than individual countries.

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I4NRulez
04/09/23 8:16:34 PM
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WBC_Injury posted...
Latin America would also destroy the US.

Except the DR and PR didnt even make it out the group stages and the USA ran through the rest of the Lat Am countries except Mexico.

Its like you didnt even watch it at all

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WBC_Injury
04/09/23 8:17:31 PM
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I4NRulez posted...
Except the DR and PR didnt even make it out the group stages and the USA ran through the rest of the Lat Am countries except Mexico.

Its like you didnt even watch it at all

DR and PR wasn't full staffed like Japan was.
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I4NRulez
04/09/23 8:20:57 PM
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WBC_Injury posted...
DR and PR wasn't full staffed like Japan was.

Fucking what?

The DR had a line up that included, Soto, Machado, Devers, Julio Rodriquez, Gary Sanchez, and Teoscar Hernandez

They had starting pitchers like Alcantara and Diego Castillo.

Now i know you're full of shit. The DR was the biggest disappointment in the WBC

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Damn_Underscore
04/09/23 8:21:39 PM
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Barry Bonds is the GOAT sorry TC

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WBC_Injury
04/09/23 8:22:11 PM
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I4NRulez posted...
Fucking what?

The DR had a line up that included, Soto, Machado, Devers, Julio Rodriquez, Gary Sanchez, and Teoscar Hernandez

They had starting pitchers like Alcantara and Diego Castillo.

Now i know you're full of shit. The DR was the biggest disappointment in the WBC

DR and PR players still clear over America.
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dameon_reaper
04/09/23 8:23:15 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
Barry Bonds is the GOAT sorry TC

I doubt he's even active though lol
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Norman_Smiley
04/09/23 8:23:28 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
Barry Bonds is the GOAT sorry TC

A team of Ohtani clones beats a team of Bonds clones. Fact.

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K181
04/09/23 8:30:59 PM
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Norman_Smiley posted...
A team of Ohtani clones beats a team of Bonds clones. Fact.

Well yeah? Ohani can pitch. Using that logic, its really only him and Babe Ruth that you could clone an entire team out of.

Prime Bonds was arguably the best player in baseball history, and if not that at least a top five player of all time

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GeneralKenobi85
04/09/23 8:40:00 PM
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WBC_Injury posted...
Also, Japan doesn't fuck with the ball every year. Manfredball changes them every year. Some years they are juiced. Some years they are anti juiced.
Most of what you're saying is nonsense, but this is true. MLB is a pretty awful organization, but there's nothing much that can be done about that. MLB has the rich history behind it that is a big part of the appeal of baseball.

I think baseball is just naturally not going to appeal to a lot of people and that's why it'll never be America's number one sport again. But that doesn't mean they shouldn't make changes. A lot of the stuff implemented this year seems good so far.

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legendarylemur
04/09/23 8:43:17 PM
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Single player sports be like

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