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averagejoel
04/05/23 10:37:21 AM
#151:


Ivynn posted...
I misremembered. But the point is Hermione is described as white in the books so JKR's claim that she never did was dumb and her main thing before the TERF stuff.
there's just... so much stuff in the books (and the movies) that absolutely would not fly today, and I cannot see this adaptation being anything other than a gigantic flop

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gmanthebest
04/05/23 10:49:23 AM
#152:


averagejoel posted...
there's just... so much stuff in the books (and the movies) that absolutely would not fly today, and I cannot see this adaptation being anything other than a gigantic flop
.........have you ever read the books or watched the movies?

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WBC_Injury
04/05/23 11:04:32 AM
#153:


Why would she be described as white

When was the last time you read a book authored by a white person that described a character assumed to be white as white

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AmericaTheBrave
04/05/23 11:06:40 AM
#154:


How woke will this be

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Blightzkrieg
04/05/23 11:33:04 AM
#155:


MisterPengy posted...
I mean more like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02pr2W7FT-c

The water and fire spells were cool, but the rest just feels like DBZ with wands.
I think that's supposed to be an unusual situation though, with the two best wizards in the world dueling. All other magic is just described as coloured sparks.

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averagejoel
04/05/23 11:41:35 AM
#156:


WBC_Injury posted...
Why would she be described as white

When was the last time you read a book authored by a white person that described a character assumed to be white as white
it is generally used to indicate fear. but, as I said, describing someone's face as "white" has significant connotations beyond that

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WBC_Injury
04/05/23 11:45:27 AM
#157:


averagejoel posted...
it is generally used to indicate fear. but, as I said, describing someone's face as "white" has significant connotations beyond that

Right, with fear. When was the last time you read a book where a character who was white had to be described as such?
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Gwynevere
04/05/23 11:48:13 AM
#158:


Gamefaqs really needs that old feature from gamefox that let you filter topics by text. Would be useful to be able to filter this shit out once the show starts airing

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Tmaster148
04/05/23 11:50:18 AM
#159:


Gwynevere posted...
Gamefaqs really needs that old feature from gamefox that let you filter topics by text. Would be useful to be able to filter this shit out once the show starts airing

You can just hide topics. It's an option on the first post.

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averagejoel
04/05/23 11:56:40 AM
#160:


WBC_Injury posted...
Right, with fear. When was the last time you read a book where a character who was white had to be described as such?
weird question. I don't know and I don't care. generally, if a character isn't described as being white, it's probably not a good idea to assume they're white.

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WBC_Injury
04/05/23 12:08:27 PM
#161:


averagejoel posted...
weird question. I don't know and I don't care. generally, if a character isn't described as being white, it's probably not a good idea to assume they're white.

Do you just assume a blank face?
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averagejoel
04/05/23 12:28:24 PM
#162:


WBC_Injury posted...
Do you just assume a blank face?
you're turning this conversation into one about an individual's subjective experiences of reading a book. feel free to have it with someone else; I'm completely uninterested in it in this context. I'm talking about the words that are objectively in the book, and the connotations that those words objectively have.

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WBC_Injury
04/05/23 12:42:18 PM
#163:


averagejoel posted...
you're turning this conversation into one about an individual's subjective experiences of reading a book. feel free to have it with someone else; I'm completely uninterested in it in this context. I'm talking about the words that are objectively in the book, and the connotations that those words objectively have.

This isn't hard to understand. White authors have the habit of not describing their characters skin color or race unless they specifically are non-white. It's a tendency to default to the majority race of where they came from. If you read a book written by a white author from the western hemisphere, and they do not describe a character's skin color, there's a good chance the author intended for them to be white. Doubly so if they describe other characters as a minority.

But being that as it may, you say you're not interested in this conversation when you are purposely being pedantic in order to get a rise out of someone. You probably should stop being so hostile if you intend to be disinterested in something.
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averagejoel
04/05/23 1:16:59 PM
#164:


WBC_Injury posted...
This isn't hard to understand. White authors have the habit of not describing their characters skin color or race unless they specifically are non-white. It's a tendency to default to the majority race of where they came from. If you read a book written by a white author from the western hemisphere, and they do not describe a character's skin color, there's a good chance the author intended for them to be white. Doubly so if they describe other characters as a minority.
I care even less what the author intended. you can't actually know what someone else intended; it's almost always more fruitful to ignore it. I'm talking about the actual words that are present in the text, and their implications. that's what I care about in this context.

to reiterate:
  1. if a character is not specified to be white, it is generally not a good idea to assume they are.
  2. referring to a character's "white face", while generally used to indicate fear, does, in fact, carry connotations beyond fear.

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dancing_cactuar
04/05/23 1:25:23 PM
#165:


WBC_Injury posted...
This isn't hard to understand. White authors have the habit of not describing their characters skin color or race unless they specifically are non-white. It's a tendency to default to the majority race of where they came from. If you read a book written by a white author from the western hemisphere, and they do not describe a character's skin color, there's a good chance the author intended for them to be white.
Not just white authors, I remember reading a series of books written by an African American and pretty much the reverse was the case, where white people had their skin color described but the supporting characters who were black never had that outright stated. It's a subconscious thing I find authors have, and maybe it's kinda weird, but people in general are weird and I suppose there's worse habits to have when writing.

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WBC_Injury
04/05/23 1:26:50 PM
#166:


averagejoel posted...
if a character is not specified to be white, it is generally not a good idea to assume they are.

What is not a good idea and what is not a realistic idea are two totally separate things.

averagejoel posted...
referring to a character's "white face", while generally used to indicate fear, does, in fact, carry connotations beyond fear.

When was the last time you saw an author do this as such to describe a character solely to explain that they were white?

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averagejoel
04/05/23 1:40:32 PM
#167:


WBC_Injury posted...
What is not a good idea and what is not a realistic idea are two totally separate things.
okay.

When was the last time you saw an author do this as such to describe a character solely to explain that they were white?
again, I don't know and I don't care. the inclusion of the word "solely" is quite disingenuous though; since "white face" very clearly has more than one connotation.

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Gwynevere
04/05/23 1:49:22 PM
#168:


Tmaster148 posted...
You can just hide topics. It's an option on the first post.
That's such a lackluster stand in for the much better method we had before

Especially with how many of these topics are going to flood the board

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WBC_Injury
04/05/23 1:53:16 PM
#169:


averagejoel posted...
again, I don't know and I don't care. the inclusion of the word "solely" is quite disingenuous though; since "white face" very clearly has more than one connotation.

Do you just like to argue even without making a point?
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averagejoel
04/05/23 2:14:16 PM
#170:


WBC_Injury posted...
Do you just like to argue even without making a point?
sorry for pointing out a few of the indications that you're not engaging honestly. if you don't want me to point them out, start engaging honestly.

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gmanthebest
04/05/23 2:15:25 PM
#171:


WBC_Injury posted...
Do you just like to argue even without making a point?
Literally all he does.

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Tmaster148
04/05/23 2:17:54 PM
#172:


Gwynevere posted...
That's such a lackluster stand in for the much better method we had before

Especially with how many of these topics are going to flood the board

Then just don't come to the board if it will bother you so much.

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WBC_Injury
04/05/23 2:18:50 PM
#173:


averagejoel posted...
sorry for pointing out a few of the indications that you're not engaging honestly. if you don't want me to point them out, start engaging honestly.

You haven't been engaging honestly this whole time. You keep repeating the same shit over and over again, despite multiple people pointing out the flaw in your argument. Then you say "I really don't care" but feel the need to keep responding with the same point that was addressed with an argument you keep saying you don't care about.

The amount of projection that holds up your cognitive dissonance regarding this is off the charts.
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averagejoel
04/05/23 2:23:12 PM
#174:


WBC_Injury posted...
You haven't been engaging honestly this whole time. You keep repeating the same shit over and over again, despite multiple people pointing out the flaw in your argument. Then you say "I really don't care" but feel the need to keep responding with the same point that was addressed with an argument you keep saying you don't care about.
it wasn't addressed though; it was sidestepped. you kept trying to have a really dumb conversation that I wasn't interested in participating in

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WBC_Injury
04/05/23 2:34:13 PM
#175:


>wasn't interested in participating in
>keeps engaging
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Axiom
04/05/23 2:38:00 PM
#176:


Meh. Could be interesting I guess if it has nothing to do with Hogwarts Harry Potter or Voldemort. Somehow I doubt this will be the case
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Gwynevere
04/05/23 5:48:47 PM
#178:


Tmaster148 posted...
Then just don't come to the board if it will bother you so much.
I like coming to CE though. I just don't like when a single topic takes over the entire board, like pitbull topics when they really flare up.

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deoxxys
04/05/23 6:20:00 PM
#179:


This is super relevant:
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRc4LwaY/

Nowadays we even got black people complaining about diversifying old products.

As someone else said probably not a good look to make Hermione black if you got Draco calling her a mudblood

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hockeybub89
04/05/23 9:28:38 PM
#180:


averagejoel posted...
any of them, really. you have certainly done an extremely poor job answering any of my questions directly
You're reminding me of anti-vaxxers and bigots who get answers over and over for years, yet continue to wonder out loud when anyone will actually give them a good answer instead of insults and deflection.

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Ivynn
04/05/23 9:31:59 PM
#181:


deoxxys posted...
This is super relevant:
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRc4LwaY/

Nowadays we even got black people complaining about diversifying old products.

As someone else said probably not a good look to make Hermione black if you got Draco calling her a mudblood

"They gonna make Harry Potter mixed!"

But he is already mixed. Mix of wizard and muggle. >_>

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Zikten
04/05/23 9:45:09 PM
#182:


They should try to explore other schools. I dont know why they are so scared to leave hogwarts
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EyeWontBeFooled
04/05/23 9:50:38 PM
#183:


MisterPengy posted...
I mean more like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02pr2W7FT-c

The water and fire spells were cool, but the rest just feels like DBZ with wands.
Saw that in theaters. The glass breaking was INTENSE. That battle is the highlight of the movie series.

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Blightzkrieg
04/05/23 10:55:52 PM
#184:


Zikten posted...
They should try to explore other schools. I dont know why they are so scared to leave hogwarts
Because Rowling's knowledge of the world outside Britain is embarrassing. You want a whole school of Cho Changs?

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Zikten
04/05/23 11:09:38 PM
#186:


Blightzkrieg posted...
Because Rowling's knowledge of the world outside Britain is embarrassing. You want a whole school of Cho Changs?
Thats why they should rip control from her and launch a full Expanded Wizarding World. Get tons of different people to write new books, make shows and movies and more games and comics even that go all over the world and have many different storyline about different characters, locations and situations
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Revelation34
04/06/23 4:39:27 AM
#187:


Zikten posted...

Thats why they should rip control from her and launch a full Expanded Wizarding World. Get tons of different people to write new books, make shows and movies and more games and comics even that go all over the world and have many different storyline about different characters, locations and situations


You want the government to commit more crimes?

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averagejoel
04/06/23 7:37:01 AM
#188:


hockeybub89 posted...
You're reminding me of anti-vaxxers and bigots who get answers over and over for years, yet continue to wonder out loud when anyone will actually give them a good answer instead of insults and deflection.
you've done nothing but insults and deflection!

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greenjeans
04/06/23 10:03:54 AM
#189:


averagejoel posted...
you've done nothing but insults and deflection!
Are you sure you understand english?
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Kami_no_Kami
04/06/23 10:07:39 AM
#190:


They should still have Daniel Radcliffe play Harry.
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gmanthebest
04/06/23 10:21:45 AM
#191:


averagejoel posted...
you've done nothing but insults and deflection!
Are you confused? You seem to be mixing up what others post and what you post

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averagejoel
04/06/23 10:32:58 AM
#192:


greenjeans posted...
Are you sure you understand english?
yes. I am 100% confident that I understand English better than most people on this board.

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Ivynn
04/06/23 10:33:48 AM
#193:


Ladies, please, you're both pretty.

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gmanthebest
04/06/23 11:05:10 AM
#194:


averagejoel posted...
yes. I am 100% confident that I understand English better than most people on this board.
https://youtu.be/oHC1230OpOg

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WBC_Injury
04/06/23 2:20:47 PM
#195:


averagejoel really not caring today
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hockeybub89
04/06/23 6:33:10 PM
#196:


averagejoel posted...
yes. I am 100% confident that I understand English better than most people on this board.
If only you understood the Holodomor

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Revelation34
04/07/23 2:21:57 AM
#197:


averagejoel posted...

you've done nothing but insults and deflection!


Neither of those happened. Especially not any insults.

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