Board 8 > MAD Mafia Topic 2 - Anger leads to Votes

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EDumey
03/25/23 7:39:20 PM
#301:


We have once again have reached an end of day where I am not 100% confident of the lynch I want, and seem to be voting more to not lynch the other candidates rather than being sure of lynching scum.

I think Crescent's behavior is very disappointing, but I feel like I have to agree with Death that it's not necessarilly disingenuous, and not prepared to call it scummy at the moment.

Abacus feels like the low hanging fruit lynching an inactive, even though Abacus clearly stated in his first couple of posts about not being available. So people going after him for inactivity seems really lazy to me.

SBell I don't have the most confidence on, but at least I do think SBell was engaging with the game in a way that I didn't agree with. So at the moment I don't see a reason to change my vote.

For the record though, I don't think Ben's argument about how fast he apologized for his shot is very compelling. So that's not a part of my reason for voting.

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Obellisk
03/25/23 7:40:12 PM
#302:


htaeD posted...
"I dont know why I expected any other answer than that."

like, I get the probing. it's just sorta a waste of time. it was a bad kill. I'm sorry.

but don't use an argument that other players town cleared him already, that's bullshit, it's day 1. Ben to say he cleared kirby when all Ben was doing is fucking around? so easy to be right, isn't it Ben? oh you shot town too.

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PunishedBen
03/25/23 7:40:40 PM
#303:


I think the chances of us actually hitting scum today are low. I mean just look at the vig shots so far. There is not a ton on the table yet. So I might lean towards shooting Abacus even though i have no reason to dislike him atm

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htaeD
03/25/23 7:42:20 PM
#304:


Obellisk posted...


like, I get the probing. it's just sorta a waste of time. it was a bad kill. I'm sorry.

but don't use an argument that other players town cleared him already, that's bullshit, it's day 1. Ben to say he cleared kirby when all Ben was doing is fucking around? so easy to be right, isn't it Ben? oh you shot town too.


That argument was more in your favor tho, at least from my perspective
But I do get why you didnt call him town

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Cody11533
03/25/23 7:42:24 PM
#305:


EDumey posted...
I think Crescent's behavior is very disappointing, but I feel like I have to agree with Death that it's not necessarilly disingenuous, and not prepared to call it scummy at the moment.
I concur with this point as well. Crescent's posts felt like genuine frustration from how I read them.

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Crescent-Moon
03/25/23 7:43:26 PM
#306:


Still waiting for an answer from Wall.

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htaeD
03/25/23 7:44:21 PM
#308:


Abacus only claimed to be busy on friday, so...
Yes it does feel lazy to just go after him, but inactivity seems more dangerous to me here.

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ViolentAbacus
03/25/23 7:44:55 PM
#309:


Ben, specifically I meant today when I have no information. Not that I wouldn't shoot at all. I should have been more clear on that front.

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Lolo_Guru
03/25/23 7:45:05 PM
#310:


Votals
[3] SBell: Dumey, Abacus, wallz
[2] Abacus: Lea, Ben
[1] Crescent: (Ben), Red, (Lea)
[1] Ben: Ulti
[0] Ulti: (death)
[0] Red: (Ben)

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to reach majority.

Day ends on Saturday at 8pm EST, approximately 15 minutes from now.



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htaeD
03/25/23 7:45:08 PM
#311:


UltimaterializerX posted...

Ive been in a tattoo artists chair for 8 hours. Its my self reward for getting through the toughest part of inspection season.

If the lynch is SBell vs Abacus then thats bad.


How about we include you?

But firs
Ulti, did you actually think JC was bulletproof and How?

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Cody11533
03/25/23 7:45:38 PM
#313:


Is Abacus experienced enough that other people could chime in on if his activity level for today in particular is unusual?

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htaeD
03/25/23 7:45:42 PM
#314:


Oh thats more Sbell votes than I thought there were

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Obellisk
03/25/23 7:45:42 PM
#315:


17 to start. if we assume legit game but all vigs then 5 out of 17 makes the most sense.

we already killed what? 5 town? so 12 alive?

so 5 v. 7
lynch town
nk town
5 v. 5

guess what. that's game.

maybe no lynch makes the most sense here guys. that is if we want to maybe play on Sunday night

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Obellisk
03/25/23 7:46:30 PM
#317:


jesus fuxk.

ulti with that ninja magic

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htaeD
03/25/23 7:46:38 PM
#318:


If the game is that volatile than sign me up with the Crescent ennui club

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PunishedBen
03/25/23 7:46:57 PM
#319:


Maybe we should lynch someone who hasnt shot yet too?

More data to go off of on those who have shot

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Obellisk
03/25/23 7:47:05 PM
#320:


##vote: no lynch

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PunishedBen
03/25/23 7:47:36 PM
#322:


Cody11533 posted...
Is Abacus experienced enough that other people could chime in on if his activity level for today in particular is unusual?
I dont think its that unusual at all

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Crescent-Moon
03/25/23 7:49:09 PM
#323:


No lynch actually is something that popped in my mind as a credible play... But that also means this takes longer to just be done with.

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PunishedBen
03/25/23 7:49:20 PM
#324:


I think killing Abacus or Crescent is the optimal play if killing someone today.


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htaeD
03/25/23 7:49:22 PM
#325:


UltimaterializerX posted...

Yea and because so many people claimed day vig that a BP in the setup makes sense.


See I want to get in your case for not reading the room, but looking back now I cant see any post where HC took back his BP claim.

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EDumey
03/25/23 7:49:25 PM
#326:


I feel like I would rather lynch than no lynch, if not just so we have some info to analyze end of day. But I admit that's me thinking like a normal mafia game and not wanting to think the game is in MYLO already.

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Crescent-Moon
03/25/23 7:49:50 PM
#327:


htaeD posted...
If the game is that volatile than sign me up with the Crescent ennui club
All members welcome <3

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wallmasterz
03/25/23 7:50:19 PM
#328:


Crescent-Moon posted...
Still waiting for an answer from Wall.

I have two kids who go to bed at this time and Im the only one handling it. Sorry I didnt have an immediate response prepared for you, Ill tell the kids bedtime is delayed next time.

I wrote red/abacus but I guess abacus is more guilty by association, I felt like kanz seemed very genuine in talking about having a life outside the internet and giving his reasoning for not having been more active yet. So while I dont have a problem with red pressuring kanz I do think singling them out and shooting them was either uncalled for or scum. Red not accepting kanz reasoning on its own, ok, maybe bad town. Singling out kanz with abacus right there just because abacus gave his reasons in advance feels fishy to me. Although I think abacus not jumping on sbell when abacus is also on the chopping block feels more town

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EDumey
03/25/23 7:50:26 PM
#329:


To be fair, Ulti's shot was bad, not because he wanted to test the BP claim, but because he didn't wait for JC to be there or ask him to retract or double down on his claim. Shooting him when he had no chance to reply was the bad thing about Ulti's shot.

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Obellisk
03/25/23 7:50:36 PM
#330:


Anyone actively pushing a lynch is clearly looking to end the game for scum

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htaeD
03/25/23 7:51:27 PM
#331:


Obellisk posted...
Anyone actively pushing a lynch is clearly looking to end the game for scum


Huh?

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EDumey
03/25/23 7:51:36 PM
#332:


Obellisk posted...
Anyone actively pushing a lynch is clearly looking to end the game for scum
This is a really bad post being made purely for self-preservation. At least be honest about it.

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Crescent-Moon
03/25/23 7:52:22 PM
#333:


PunishedBen posted...
I think killing Abacus or Crescent is the optimal play if killing someone today.
The game's sudden revival shortly after I showed back up speaks volumes, as far as I'm concerned. Nothing was happening at all until I popped back in to swat the lazy votes away from me. Red for example has done essentially nothing since my return but to pop back up and loosely shade me as soon as the votes left me. He has made no effort at all to actually pursue an avenue that resembles a scumhunt.

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Obellisk
03/25/23 7:52:42 PM
#334:


htaeD posted...
Huh?

EDumey posted...
This is a really bad post being made purely for self-preservation. At least be honest about it.

a mislynch ends the game.

how confident are you? we've shot 5 town already.

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EDumey
03/25/23 7:53:31 PM
#335:


You're making an assumption that there's 5 scum in a game where we've missed 5 kills already. You are speculating out of your ass right now to try and save yourself from being lynched.

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htaeD
03/25/23 7:54:10 PM
#337:


Obellisk posted...


a mislynch ends the game.

how confident are you? we've shot 5 town already.


Yeah and that feeling wont go away for the rest of the game now

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Obellisk
03/25/23 7:54:27 PM
#338:


EDumey posted...
You're making an assumption that there's 5 scum in a game where we've missed 5 kills already. You are speculating out of your ass right now to try and save yourself from being lynched.

lynch me. shoot me.

killing town loses games. I'll go enjoy my time with kirby and scare in dead town chat while scum finishes you off in the night phase.

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PunishedBen
03/25/23 7:54:44 PM
#339:


Crescent-Moon posted...
The game's sudden revival shortly after I showed back up speaks volumes, as far as I'm concerned. Nothing was happening at all until I popped back in to swat the lazy votes away from me. Red for example has done essentially nothing since my return but to pop back up and loosely shade me as soon as the votes left me. He has made no effort at all to actually pursue an avenue that resembles a scumhunt.
. I mainly only listed you because if you are town, you want out of the game anyway. But that is a good point and I will not vote you today because you've earned it

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htaeD
03/25/23 7:54:48 PM
#340:


Shooting cant be done anymore at this state

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Obellisk
03/25/23 7:55:10 PM
#341:


htaeD posted...
Shooting cant be done anymore at this state


well lynch me then. I wasn't watching the clock

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Crescent-Moon
03/25/23 7:55:23 PM
#342:


PunishedBen posted...
. I mainly only listed you because if you are town, you want out of the game anyway. But that is a good point and I will not vote you today because you've earned it
Hey I only want out of the game if the rainbows and unicorns I've been promised aren't delivered on.

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EDumey
03/25/23 7:55:30 PM
#343:


You know, I was thinking of moving my vote before SBell. But you've done a bang-up job of convincing me otherwise.

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htaeD
03/25/23 7:56:08 PM
#344:


Abacus, your horse is in this race too.
Thoughts?

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Obellisk
03/25/23 7:56:17 PM
#345:


listen, it's an uncommon game. maybe we let 1 night go by and try to find actual scum day 2.

I'm not fear mongering, just trying to actually play mafia

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Obellisk
03/25/23 7:57:11 PM
#346:


EDumey posted...
You know, I was thinking of moving my vote before SBell. But you've done a bang-up job of convincing me otherwise.

Well, we've never had a game where I've been town so...

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htaeD
03/25/23 7:57:15 PM
#347:


Obellisk posted...
listen, it's an uncommon game. maybe we let 1 night go by and try to find actual scum day 2.

I'm not fear mongering, just trying to actually play mafia


We'll be in the same situation with no more info

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ViolentAbacus
03/25/23 7:57:25 PM
#349:


I think it's HIGHLY unlikely that we wouldn't have hit scum in 5 shots with 5 member.s

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htaeD
03/25/23 7:57:50 PM
#350:


actually I take that back, since this game is weird
But still, our info on scum stays the same

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