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boxoto
03/12/23 3:10:45 PM
#51:


I've only seen part of it, but it was when I was tired, so I kept falling asleep.

I'll try to watch the whole thing one of these days, though.

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Master_Kazuya
03/12/23 3:23:47 PM
#52:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
I'm sincerely asking what people think about it. Meme popularity has been an interesting phenomenon over the years. Every so often, some indie project explodes onto the scene and gets called 'the best [genre] game/movie ever made' and then after a year or so it just kinda fades away.

This one has the makings of Undertale, from what I've noticed. Massive awards hype, praise that puts it above "all the mainstream projects with no soul," people say things like "THIS is what [other thing] should have been"

It will be interesting to chart its trajectory over the next couple of years.


I thought the movie was excellent. Undertale is also my favorite single player game. I'm not generally a trendy person. Take this as you will. I think it's always worth trying something out, at the very least with movies, you lose out on 2 hrs, which is way less of a sink than a game or album or TV series.

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PiOverlord
03/12/23 3:32:38 PM
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@Gobstoppers12

No offense, but to call Undertale a meme is silly. To act like the game faded away, and didn't have any impact is ridiculous. Undertale did well enough that every time a Deltarune chapter releases, the gaming community stops to make a big deal about it.

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Doe
03/12/23 3:34:41 PM
#54:


Undertale is a top 10 game of the 2010s

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Gobstoppers12
03/12/23 3:35:33 PM
#55:


PiOverlord posted...
No offense, but to call Undertale a meme is silly.
It was definitely a meme. Decent game, not nearly as amazing as it was said to be. Won the Best Game Ever poll and then got beaten out by Octopath Traveler in the best game of the decade poll a couple years later. In the first round.

That's a massive fall-off.

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Smashingpmkns
03/12/23 3:36:45 PM
#56:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
I'm sincerely asking what people think about it. Meme popularity has been an interesting phenomenon over the years. Every so often, some indie project explodes onto the scene and gets called 'the best [genre] game/movie ever made' and then after a year or so it just kinda fades away.

This one has the makings of Undertale, from what I've noticed. Massive awards hype, praise that puts it above "all the mainstream projects with no soul," people say things like "THIS is what [other thing] should have been"

It will be interesting to chart its trajectory over the next couple of years.
People still talk about Undertale to this day. Hell you're talking about Undertale right now lol but it's generally regarded as a great video game and it has a massive following.

Either way, EEAAO was phenomenal and it will most likely be well regarded in the future. Comparing it to Infinity War or Endgame is silly for multiple reasons.

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PiOverlord
03/12/23 3:45:18 PM
#57:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
It was definitely a meme. Decent game, not nearly as amazing as it was said to be. Won the Best Game Ever poll and then got beaten out by Octopath Traveler in the best game of the decade poll a couple years later. In the first round.

That's a massive fall-off.
We know there was a bit of a joke push to get that game over the hump, but the push was propelled because at its core, it was a well-made game that drew in a massive audience for an indie game.

Comparing it to Infinity War is the only meme I'm seeing around here. You're comparing a multi-billion dollar franchise to a one-man army game at this point. Why?

Undertale is not even in my top 20-30 games of the 2010's if I'm being honest, but it did a lot right. Heck, I'll even listen to the soundtrack at times for fun, which I can't say I do for other games.

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Gobstoppers12
03/12/23 3:49:25 PM
#58:


PiOverlord posted...
Undertale is not even in my top 20-30 games of the 2010's if I'm being honest, but it did a lot right. Heck, I'll even listen to the soundtrack at times for fun, which I can't say I do for other games.
That's what I'm saying, though. A decent game that had its charms (I also own a version of the soundtrack, guitar covers by RichaadEB), but people blew its quality way out of proportion because it had meme popularity.

On its own merits, Undertale is pretty good. But it has that 'quirky indie game' vibe that most indie games try to have. It's good for what it is, but it's not anywhere near the best ever.

I swear, people give so many free points to indie projects and 'self-aware' works. Breaking the fourth wall is cool and all, but it's not exactly groundbreaking.

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Mistere_Man
03/12/23 3:57:05 PM
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Agonized_rufous posted...
Never even heard of the movie....maybe I'll try it out


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Prestoff
03/12/23 4:02:24 PM
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@Gobstoppers12

How about this, just watch the movie for yourself so you can judge it properly? It really just feels like you're being a UR level of contrarian.

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Gobstoppers12
03/12/23 4:07:55 PM
#61:


Prestoff posted...
just watch the movie for yourself
I'm not interested in watching it.

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Ar0ge
03/12/23 4:09:40 PM
#62:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
That's what I'm saying, though. A decent game that had its charms (I also own a version of the soundtrack, guitar covers by RichaadEB), but people blew its quality way out of proportion because it had meme popularity.

On its own merits, Undertale is pretty good. But it has that 'quirky indie game' vibe that most indie games try to have. It's good for what it is, but it's not anywhere near the best ever.

I swear, people give so many free points to indie projects and 'self-aware' works. Breaking the fourth wall is cool and all, but it's not exactly groundbreaking.

That's like.... Your opinion man.

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Gobstoppers12
03/12/23 4:10:46 PM
#63:


Ar0ge posted...
That's like.... Your opinion man.
true and real

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PiOverlord
03/12/23 4:11:51 PM
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As for the movie at-hand, I personally enjoyed it, but I also don't know if I 100% loved it. Watched it with my dad, so some parts were pretty awkward to watch with him tbh.

The comedy was hit-or-miss for me. Felt the hotdog world went on a little too long, and the sexual jokes sometimes teetered on being immature/tasteless in some regards.

My other big complaint was that it did become very exposition-heavy in the end. I feel there was a more concise way to go about it and still have the same effect. To me, a good 20 minutes could have been shaved I feel.

Some may complain that it ended up being a feel-good family-drama film, but to me, it's not about the core of the movie, but rather the unique way they presented the family drama.

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Prestoff
03/12/23 4:13:59 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
I'm not interested in watching it.

That's a shame, you're missing out.

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Raikuro
03/12/23 4:17:22 PM
#66:


Why is having family drama elements even a bad thing though. Like people just simply state that as a reason for being bad with no elaboration... family drama can be good.
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Gobstoppers12
03/12/23 4:19:24 PM
#67:


Prestoff posted...
That's a shame, you're missing out.
I got curious and I looked it up on IMDB. I checked the Parents Guide section.

There are a lot of references to butt plugs and hot dog fingers.

I think I'm good not seeing it.

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Prestoff
03/12/23 4:25:03 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
I got curious and I looked it up on IMDB. I checked the Parents Guide section.

There are a lot of references to butt plugs and hot dog fingers.

I think I'm good not seeing it.

I think it's weird that you're a big movie guy but you get offended by stuff like that easily. I'm not going to call those parts grade A comedy, but they don't take up a good chunk of the movie at all.

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Gobstoppers12
03/12/23 4:25:35 PM
#69:


Prestoff posted...
I think it's weird that you're a big movie guy but you get offended by stuff like that easily
I'm not offended by it. It's just not that interesting to me.

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Prestoff
03/12/23 4:31:29 PM
#70:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
I'm not offended by it. It's just not that interesting to me.

I still hold onto my opinion you're seriously missing out, but more power to you on what you want to watch. I tend to avoid Period Piece on War films, especially WW1 and WW2 era, because they don't interest me either or tend to become "Oscar baits".

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Gobstoppers12
03/12/23 4:41:58 PM
#71:


Prestoff posted...
I still hold onto my opinion you're seriously missing out
Maybe I am. But if it's got that kind of a sense of humor, it doesn't really feel like it's meant for me. That crazy 'irreverent' comedy style doesn't really do it for me. I love some things that have a profane sense of humor. Whiplash is a good example of a movie that has a lot of vulgarity and offensive subject matter, but I love it. I enjoy South Park, too.

But there's something about the meme-worthy 'lol so random' humor that just runs me off. If I'm supposed to laugh about butt plugs just because they're butt plugs, it's not for me lol

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PiOverlord
03/12/23 4:44:58 PM
#72:


Raikuro posted...
Why is having family drama elements even a bad thing though. Like people just simply state that as a reason for being bad with no elaboration... family drama can be good.
I personally don't know, maybe because it is something that has been done many times, and can venture into being cliche.

Family drama, as well as love stories, are just a core fundamental human experience, that it only makes sense they make up a large amount of our stories.

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Raikuro
03/12/23 4:47:17 PM
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The random stuff is done more for the multiverse plot reasons than specifically for humor. Like yeah some of it is silly but that's kinda of the point, without spoiling anything. Some things are better experienced in the moment than described on the internet.
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FigureOfSpeech
03/12/23 4:52:05 PM
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Prestoff
03/12/23 4:53:44 PM
#75:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
Maybe I am. But if it's got that kind of a sense of humor, it doesn't really feel like it's meant for me. That crazy 'irreverent' comedy style doesn't really do it for me. I love some things that have a profane sense of humor. Whiplash is a good example of a movie that has a lot of vulgarity and offensive subject matter, but I love it. I enjoy South Park, too.

But there's something about the meme-worthy 'lol so random' humor that just runs me off. If I'm supposed to laugh about butt plugs just because they're butt plugs, it's not for me lol

I get it and that's fair, but I'll definately say this movie is anything but a "meme". You seem to be hung on the humor soo much for some reason when that's not the reason everyone is giving praise to this movie. From it's use of the Multiverse to tell a compelling story about family and generational trauma, to its themes regarding nihilism, to the acting, to the fight scenes that don't overly rely on on shit like bad lighting and jump cuts, having CGi that doesn't suck like the MCU, etc. There's a lot that this movie has to offer.

In fact, the only 2 criticism of this movie is that the humor is a hit or miss and the run time is very long (close to 3 hours).

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KaZooo
03/12/23 4:56:44 PM
#76:


I don't have it astronomically high, but it was a decent movie.

The underlying themes and messages were great.

Thr visual and action sequences are more of to each their own. There is a degree of cognitive dwelling to understand the absurdities imagined, some of which can be unpleasant, but I think a real thing in human psychology.

One thing about the movie is I was numb at the attempts of humor, if they actually were meant to be funny. That's to each their own. I thought those moments were a product of the situation, not so much a deliberate mark of comedy.

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LinkPizza
03/12/23 5:27:50 PM
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I loved this movie quite a lot, tbh...

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Zeeak4444
03/12/23 5:50:57 PM
#79:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
Good like Infinity War, which holds up years later and remains a triumph of long-term cinematic storytelling and character development?

Or good like Undertale, which is basically filled with memes and got popular because of an over-eager fandom?

Do you think this movie will remain beloved in five years, or do you think it will fizzle out and be forgotten once the hype dies down?

imagine thinking undertake was popular because of anything other than it being a great game

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1337toothbrush
03/12/23 6:07:38 PM
#80:


Zeeak4444 posted...
imagine thinking undertake was popular because of anything other than it being a great game
It's true. Undertale attracted the Earthbound and Homestuck fanbases, which are perhaps the two most rabid fanbases of all time who greatly overrate their favorite things.

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03/12/23 6:18:07 PM
#81:


1337toothbrush posted...
It's true. Undertale attracted the Earthbound and Homestuck fanbases, which are perhaps the two most rabid fanbases of all time who greatly overrate their favorite things.

but thats not why it became popular. It became popular because it attracted people outside those fan bases too.

I havent played it but Ive seen enough of videos to know it stands on its own merits.

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Glob
03/12/23 6:21:01 PM
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I thought it was a film with an interesting concept that did a few interesting things but then massively overstayed its welcome. For the last third or so I just wanted it to end. That is not the mark of a great film IMO.
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Super_Slash
03/12/23 6:31:05 PM
#84:


1337toothbrush posted...
It's true. Undertale attracted the Earthbound and Homestuck fanbases, which are perhaps the two most rabid fanbases of all time who greatly overrate their favorite things.
As someone already said, that's not the only reason it became popular. It became popular because it's a good game. It also stood out due to its unique gameplay mechanics and at the time being one of the only seriously notable indie games. Undertale has earned its place, even if the fandom is really fucking cringe.
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VampireCoyote
03/12/23 6:34:44 PM
#85:


Pikachuchupika posted...
One of the best movies ever. Deserved.


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1337toothbrush
03/12/23 6:43:52 PM
#86:


Zeeak4444 posted...
but thats not why it became popular. It became popular because it attracted people outside those fan bases too.

I havent played it but Ive seen enough of videos to know it stands on its own merits.
It became popular because of all the attention it received from the rabid fanbase not shutting the fuck up about it for a single moment. Like Justin Bieber had a whole bunch of "fans" who were paid to go crazy over him at the start. It snowballs.

Super_Slash posted...
As someone already said, that's not the only reason it became popular. It became popular because it's a good game. It also stood out due to its unique gameplay mechanics and at the time being one of the only seriously notable indie games. Undertale has earned its place, even if the fandom is really fucking cringe.
Being a good game or unique is not enough. There are and were tons of better and more unique games. Indie games had already exploded in popularity long before Undertale showed up on the scene and there were tons of notable releases. The differentiator was the rabid fanbase.

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Doe
03/12/23 7:03:25 PM
#87:


On the subject of nihilism, one of the few featured rotten reviews' blurb on RT claims

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/6/1/AAcZIZAAERYR.jpg

Is this true or a misunderstanding?

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Super_Slash
03/12/23 7:10:02 PM
#88:


1337toothbrush posted...
It became popular because of all the attention it received from the rabid fanbase not shutting the fuck up about it for a single moment. Like Justin Bieber had a whole bunch of "fans" who were paid to go crazy over him at the start. It snowballs.

Being a good game or unique is not enough. There are and were tons of better and more unique games. Indie games had already exploded in popularity long before Undertale showed up on the scene and there were tons of notable releases. The differentiator was the rabid fanbase.
Almost all of your second paragraph is entirely subjective. I personally believe Undertale helped kick off the indie game industry; there's no way no one has ever taken inspiration from it, or became motivated to become game makers themselves since it was largely done by one person.

You are right that the fanbase is likely what made it explode in popularity but even without that, it is legitimately a great game and I think it would have become a big hit regardless.
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Kakapo
03/12/23 7:10:27 PM
#89:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
I got curious and I looked it up on IMDB. I checked the Parents Guide section.

There are a lot of references to butt plugs and hot dog fingers.

I think I'm good not seeing it.

Anything can be a buttplug if you try hard enough.


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1337toothbrush
03/12/23 7:12:15 PM
#90:


Super_Slash posted...
Almost all of your second paragraph is entirely subjective. I personally believe Undertale helped kick off the indie game industry; there's no way no one has ever taken inspiration from it, or became motivated to become game makers themselves since it was largely done by one person.

You are right that the fanbase is likely what made it explode in popularity but even without that, it is legitimately a great game and I think it would have become a big hit regardless.
Were you asleep when Cave Story came out or what?

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Tyranthraxus
03/12/23 7:15:49 PM
#91:


Doe posted...
On the subject of nihilism, one of the few featured rotten reviews' blurb on RT claims

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/6/1/AAcZIZAAERYR.jpg

Is this true or a misunderstanding?

Characters have those thoughts but he's wrong about it being the core philosophy. The movie is at heart essentially a metaphor for a young lesbian daughter committing suicide and a grieving mother wondering what she could have possibly done differently for her entire life to prevent it.

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03/12/23 7:18:43 PM
#92:


Doe posted...
On the subject of nihilism, one of the few featured rotten reviews' blurb on RT claims

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/6/1/AAcZIZAAERYR.jpg

Is this true or a misunderstanding?
That's putting it rather simplistically and it's been nearly a year since I've seen the film, but the main antagonist by the time the story begins has come to the conclusion that in the vast infinity of the multiverse, the value an individual has in their lives is nil.

Tyranthraxus posted...
Characters have those thoughts but he's wrong about it being the core philosophy. The movie is at heart essentially a metaphor for a young lesbian daughter committing suicide and a grieving mother wondering what she could have possibly done differently for her entire life to prevent it.
Also this, on a deeper level than just the base plot.

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Super_Slash
03/12/23 7:39:23 PM
#93:


1337toothbrush posted...
Were you asleep when Cave Story came out or what?
Totally forgot about that one. It doesn't change anything I said though.
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TheLiarParadox
03/12/23 7:49:20 PM
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It was okay.

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Gwynevere
03/12/23 7:51:57 PM
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Seems interesting enough, I need to give it a watch

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hyperskate65
03/12/23 7:58:03 PM
#96:


Saw the movie when it came out. Cried. Told everyone this was movie of the year and was instantly in my top of all time list.

No one listened.

Now everyone is like woah goddamn that's some good shit.

Fuck y'all.

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Master_Bass
03/12/23 8:02:43 PM
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Yeah, I never heard of this movie before today. I do kind of want to watch it now.

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LinkPizza
03/12/23 8:05:04 PM
#98:


Master_Bass posted...
Yeah, I never heard of this movie before today. I do kind of want to watch it now.

I feel like this is happening more now, these days... People don't see all the trailers anymore...

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dancing_cactuar
03/12/23 8:33:36 PM
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LinkPizza posted...
I feel like this is happening more now, these days... People don't see all the trailers anymore...
I suspect people are going to less movies thanks to the coof, 'cause I saw this advertised a fair bit in the trailers before watching other movies and the trailer for this movie makes quite the impression.

hyperskate65 posted...
Saw the movie when it came out. Cried. Told everyone this was movie of the year and was instantly in my top of all time list.

No one listened.

Now everyone is like woah goddamn that's some good shit.

Fuck y'all.
Don't look at me, I saw this kino opening weekend with my pops.

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