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Kurt_Russel
02/20/23 4:54:55 PM
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Like, we had a bunch of multiverse stuff and some new faces popped up here and there, but it didnt seem like anything BIG happened with Marvels phase 4.

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billcom6
02/20/23 4:56:05 PM
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spiderman

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Crimsoness
02/20/23 4:56:11 PM
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Nothing noteworthy happened until Avengers 1 anyway all the stories were self-contained

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boxoto
02/20/23 4:56:44 PM
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yes - *GotG Christmas Special spoilers* Kevin Bacon

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RchHomieQuanChi
02/20/23 4:57:28 PM
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The biggest thing is probably that *Quantumania SPOILERS* Kang probably survived the events of the movie and now has his sights set on Earth-616 (it feels wrong saying that).

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Raikuro
02/20/23 4:58:33 PM
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Something really big happened in Eternals only to never be significantly referenced again
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RchHomieQuanChi
02/20/23 4:59:29 PM
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Raikuro posted...
Something really big happened in Eternals only to never be significantly referenced again

Rumor has it that Tiamut's body is the source for adamantium in the MCU

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AgentCoulson
02/20/23 5:02:58 PM
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Kamala being the second mutant to show up in the MCU feels biggish.

No Way Home changed Peter's life going forward drastically.

Hawkeye reintroduced Kingpin and She-Hulk did the same for Daredevil.

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radical_rhino
02/20/23 5:15:38 PM
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Changes to status quo/dangling major plot points:

  • Peter Parkers identity is erased from society, and he has no more family or friends
  • Theres a giant celestial corpse in the ocean and another celestial is currently judging whether to destroy earth
  • Thor has an adopted daughter. And Jane Foster being in Valhalla might come back in a future movie.
  • Wanda died offscreen (so she didnt die). But she got a huge power upgrade. Vision was reconstructed into a new emotionless self.
  • Theres apparently a universe incursion thats threatening to destroy reality, or so Charlize Theron told Dr. Strange.
  • Theres a new Black Widow, new Hawkeye, and other new heroes (Shang-Chi, She Hulk, Kamala, Moon Knight).
  • The Falcon has now permanently upgraded to new Captain America.
  • Theres a very powerful underwater society that has revealed itself and doesnt like humans very much.
  • Theres an organization beyond space and time that destroys alternate universes, except they are now fundamentally changed and alternate universes have flourished again, supposedly leading to an upcoming multiversal war (which has already happened infinite times essentially and will end up right back where it started).

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Ruvan22
02/20/23 7:17:13 PM
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radical_rhino posted...
Changes to status quo/dangling major plot points:

* Theres a giant celestial corpse in the ocean and another celestial is currently judging whether to destroy earth

is it confirmed that the celestial is dead? I thought in the comics he was put to sleep, though I'm going off Wikipedia entries about the characters
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Makeveli_lives
02/20/23 7:20:56 PM
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Making Netflix shows canon officially and ending that stupid debate.

Introducing mutants into the MCU.

And the multiverse stuff which I desperately hope they end soon. Makes the very few deaths they do go through with absolutely meaningless if they can just bring different versions Of the characters back a year or two later.

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KingThing
02/20/23 7:22:21 PM
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X Men the only thing that will get MCU out of this horrible rut, and if that fails, coffin nail.

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LeCh0nk
02/20/23 7:22:43 PM
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radical_rhino posted...
Changes to status quo/dangling major plot points:

* Peter Parkers identity is erased from society, and he has no more family or friends
* Theres a giant celestial corpse in the ocean and another celestial is currently judging whether to destroy earth
* Thor has an adopted daughter. And Jane Foster being in Valhalla might come back in a future movie.
* Wanda died offscreen (so she didnt die). But she got a huge power upgrade. Vision was reconstructed into a new emotionless self.
* Theres apparently a universe incursion thats threatening to destroy reality, or so Charlize Theron told Dr. Strange.
* Theres a new Black Widow, new Hawkeye, and other new heroes (Shang-Chi, She Hulk, Kamala, Moon Knight).
* The Falcon has now permanently upgraded to new Captain America.
* Theres a very powerful underwater society that has revealed itself and doesnt like humans very much.
* Theres an organization beyond space and time that destroys alternate universes, except they are now fundamentally changed and alternate universes have flourished again, supposedly leading to an upcoming multiversal war (which has already happened infinite times essentially and will end up right back where it started).
That sounds horrible. Glad I stopped watching after Endgame.

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ColonizedMind
02/20/23 7:23:34 PM
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lol the Spiderman thing is so they literally don't have to have Ned and Zendaya in the next one.
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HornyLevel
02/20/23 7:24:30 PM
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...
The biggest thing is probably that *Quantumania SPOILERS* Kang probably survived the events of the movie and now has his sights set on Earth-616 (it feels wrong saying that).
Quantumania is Phase 5.

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Makeveli_lives
02/21/23 4:22:44 PM
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ColonizedMind posted...
lol the Spiderman thing is so they literally don't have to have Ned and Zendaya in the next one.
Or Tom Holland. Literally no reason to anymore since no one will remember his face. They could literally recast him in real life as hes now been recast in the movies after everyone forgot him so it would make sense. Throw another 5 year time skip in there as well just for good measure so we finally get a grown Peter instead of the usual teenager thats struggling to find himself that we always get.

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Punished_Blinx
02/21/23 4:25:54 PM
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Makeveli_lives posted...
Making Netflix shows canon officially and ending that stupid debate.

Netflix shows could still be an alternate universe :)

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Jerry_Hellyeah
02/21/23 4:32:43 PM
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LeCh0nk posted...
That sounds horrible. Glad I stopped watching after Endgame.

Glad you shut the fuck up

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Xerun
02/21/23 4:34:57 PM
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radical_rhino posted...
Changes to status quo/dangling major plot points:

* Peter Parkers identity is erased from society, and he has no more family or friends

Also

the first appearance of someone with a mutation in their genes although it currently appears dormant

Val (kinda like Nick Fury but maybe a bit more anti-hero) has started recruiting anti-heroes and appears to be the head of the CIA and additionally has active issues with Wakanda

The 10 Rings appears to be getting more active

Black Widows were taken down and seemingly have been released into society (doubt this one matters too much past Yelena though we have seen them in a few projects in minor roles)

Apparently Blade is active which implies Vampires exist

The Kingpin is operating again in New York, as is Daredevil. Whether they are the same or variants remains to be seen

Dr Strange appears to have some form of corruption from the Darkhold. Whether its a huge issue or just a contained contamination (since Wanda destroyed it) remains to be seen

Talokan wants to destroy the rest of the world and is just waiting for something to make Wakanda think it should ally with them.


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Kurt_Russel
02/21/23 9:42:39 PM
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As far as Netflix goes, Im glad theyve introduced daredevil and kingpin. When it comes to Disney shows, did moonknight and she-hulk really progress anything?

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Supersex420
02/21/23 9:45:57 PM
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radical_rhino posted...
Changes to status quo/dangling major plot points:

* Peter Parkers identity is erased from society, and he has no more family or friends
* Theres a giant celestial corpse in the ocean and another celestial is currently judging whether to destroy earth
* Thor has an adopted daughter. And Jane Foster being in Valhalla might come back in a future movie.
* Wanda died offscreen (so she didnt die). But she got a huge power upgrade. Vision was reconstructed into a new emotionless self.
* Theres apparently a universe incursion thats threatening to destroy reality, or so Charlize Theron told Dr. Strange.
* Theres a new Black Widow, new Hawkeye, and other new heroes (Shang-Chi, She Hulk, Kamala, Moon Knight).
* The Falcon has now permanently upgraded to new Captain America.
* Theres a very powerful underwater society that has revealed itself and doesnt like humans very much.
* Theres an organization beyond space and time that destroys alternate universes, except they are now fundamentally changed and alternate universes have flourished again, supposedly leading to an upcoming multiversal war (which has already happened infinite times essentially and will end up right back where it started).
FFS "MCU is dead" is so dumb and I don't even watch these movies

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TMOG
02/21/23 9:52:17 PM
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Kurt_Russel posted...
As far as Netflix goes, Im glad theyve introduced daredevil and kingpin. When it comes to Disney shows, did moonknight and she-hulk really progress anything?
Moon Knight outside of the obvious answers of introducing more characters and expanding the mythology of the MCU, it's fairly self-contained.

She-Hulk established that there are a lot more heroes out there than the Avengers and their peers, ranging from regular people playing vigilante to actual mutants with powers.
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Gamespoht
02/21/23 9:59:05 PM
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Supersex420 posted...
FFS "MCU is dead" is so dumb and I don't even watch these movies
Atp it should die, most viewers don't want to do extra homework with this franchise

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Blue_Popo
02/21/23 10:07:34 PM
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Infinity war and endgame ruined people perception of what marvel could be to what it should be
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ViewtifulGrave
02/21/23 10:11:38 PM
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Makeveli_lives posted...
Making Netflix shows canon officially and ending that stupid debate.

Introducing mutants into the MCU.

And the multiverse stuff which I desperately hope they end soon. Makes the very few deaths they do go through with absolutely meaningless if they can just bring different versions Of the characters back a year or two later.
Youre complaining about something that hasnt even happened.

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Xerun
02/21/23 10:24:13 PM
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Blue_Popo posted...
Infinity war and endgame ruined people perception of what marvel could be to what it should be


The amount of revisionary history is insane to me. I very much liked Civil War when it released but there were a lot of complaints about it at the time. Now its a perfect movie with no faults whatsoever (hyperbole) whenever people talk about how bad Phase 4 was. And thats one of the best movies in Phase 3.

Ill admit phase 4 has issues but Id take any of those movies over the worst of Phase 1/2. Phase 3 was really good but it was an outlier not the normal

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codey
02/21/23 10:48:47 PM
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It feels about as "relevant" as phase 1. Basically sets up the next big villain and introduced the new multiverse which should be the big thing in the next phases so I'm cool with it. Expecting something massive right after endgame rather than setting up the next 10 years is foolish, tbh

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TMOG
02/21/23 10:49:46 PM
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The main problem with Eternals is that it tried to do too much and establish too many characters in its runtime, and I have no idea why it wasn't a Disney + series instead where it could have been paced so much better.
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Blue_Popo
02/21/23 11:42:52 PM
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I think having so many realms/dimensions/universes/zones/timelines is a mistake. Audiences may miss battle of new york or whats wrong with regular old space

Dark dimension, alternate timelines, quantum realm, void, ta lo, noor dimension, alternate universes, tva, ancestral plane, egyptian underworld, etc
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Aloc
02/22/23 1:59:25 AM
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And there's a reason nobody gets into superhero comics and finds them convoluted
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Nukazie
02/22/23 2:03:09 AM
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i liked mcu more when it didnt have a plan, a phase

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ViewtifulGrave
02/22/23 7:01:05 AM
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Nukazie posted...
i liked mcu more when it didnt have a plan, a phase
They were setting up the Avengers in the first two movies back in 2008.

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VampireCoyote
02/22/23 7:17:07 AM
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lol I remember that movie

they had to dye the ants different colors for some reason

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SHRlKE
02/22/23 7:21:36 AM
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I consider P4 a pallet cleanser after the previous 10 years. The recent ant man seems to be the start of them heading towards the bigger picture again. I look forward to the next few years with that in mind.
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_____Cait
02/22/23 7:29:44 AM
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Eternals had 2 giant celestials appear, one which just comes out in broad daylight in front of everyone.

That movie takes place in the future though, so they can ignore it.

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HornyLevel
02/22/23 8:45:48 AM
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_____Cait posted...
That movie takes place in the future though, so they can ignore it.
Huh? Eternals takes place in 2023. We're currently at 2026/2027 (there's a discrepancy with Cassie's age). It was also referenced in She-Hulk.

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VeggetaX
02/22/23 8:50:06 AM
#43:


Raikuro posted...
Something really big happened in Eternals only to never be significantly referenced again
Yes they did

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apocalyptic_4
02/22/23 8:58:37 AM
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She hulk twerking

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BurmesePenguin
02/22/23 9:04:13 AM
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Queen Elizabeth died.
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Jerry_Hellyeah
02/22/23 11:17:26 AM
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ViewtifulGrave posted...
Youre complaining about something that hasnt even happened.

I guess people are watching Dragon Ball Z thinking it's the MCU or something with the amount of complaining about something that didnt happen.

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Raikuro
02/22/23 11:23:26 AM
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ViewtifulGrave posted...
Youre complaining about something that hasnt even happened.

Jerry_Hellyeah posted...
I guess people are watching Dragon Ball Z thinking it's the MCU or something with the amount of complaining about something that didnt happen.
Did y'all forget about Gamora >_>
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