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Lost_All_Senses
02/14/23 5:44:17 PM
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It's hard to find compromise when people are like "Do exactly what I want or nothing you do counts for anything". You can acknowledge someone trying while still making your point that it might not be enough. And having money go towards the causes of what the person is harming is definitely more than nothing. It's just people not understanding or caring how people work. No one is gonna come around when you yell "fuck your efforts" anything that's not 100% what you want. They're gonna feel like they'd rather do something else where people might acknowledge their effort.

Which, tbf, if someone wants to find the people being extra so they can go "nevermind! Im doing nothing then!", they can find them no matter how little they represent the majority. People who just want the credit for trying even though they were looking for the first out from the gate.

As much as you don't like the people you're talking to, if they give you leeway, you should acknowledge it and make them feel good for coming around. That way they feel like making even more of an effort is worthwhile.

Unless you live in a fantasy land where you're eventually gonna win somehow by waiting for people to magically 100% come around all at once just cause it's the right thing to do while you constantly shit on their smaller efforts. You need to work around people and not live in a fantasy where you can do what you want and people will eventually either die out or conform. Make an effort to make those with potential actually noticed.

Nobody today has the patience MLK had when he actually made progress. What he did still seems impossible today because no one actually follows his example

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Billyionaire
02/14/23 6:26:40 PM
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I guess I'm out of the loop but it's impossible to buy anything and not support bad people, why are people zoning in on this one particular product?

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Hinakuluiau
02/14/23 6:28:27 PM
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Billyionaire posted...
I guess I'm out of the loop but it's impossible to buy anything and not support bad people, why are people zoning in on this one particular product?
Because trans individuals feel disenfranchised and that they have no ability to stop the impending genocide, giving up a video game is literally the easiest form of activism and they feel that nobody is willing to do that then there really is no hope for them

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runewalshPSiv
02/14/23 6:31:02 PM
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Hinakuluiau posted...
Because trans individuals feel disenfranchised and that they have no ability to stop the impending genocide, giving up a video game is literally the easiest form of activism and they feel that nobody is willing to do that then there really is no hope for them

Giving up a game isnt going to do anything. Nation wide protests are probably the only thing that will have any impact.

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Hinakuluiau
02/14/23 6:38:00 PM
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runewalshPSiv posted...
Giving up a game isnt going to do anything. Nation wide protests are probably the only thing that will have any impact.
Sorry if I wasn't clear, I agree that the boycott does nothing. I support people who don't want to buy the game because of Rowling, I just don't think it means the buyers are bigots

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Akagami_Shanks
02/14/23 6:39:05 PM
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Billyionaire posted...
I guess I'm out of the loop but it's impossible to buy anything and not support bad people, why are people zoning in on this one particular product?
so people can feel better about themselves for boycotting a game they probably weren't gonna buy anyway(Let's be real, how many peoples minds do you think were changed about this game considering the very high number of sales).

Because it's a very easy target and non committal. It takes a few seconds to post "video game bad, don't play it", it takes a lot more to go outside universal studios and boycott ticket sales. Or in other words, slacktivism.

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VideoboysaysCube
02/14/23 6:51:53 PM
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I can't help but laugh at the irony that stems from these people who complain about everything and anything. All they do is give more exposure to the thing they're trying to boycott.

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Akagami_Shanks
02/14/23 6:58:00 PM
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also what exactly is the endgame of the boycott.

Say it slashed sales in half or 3/4ths, it still made a lot of money, but then what? JK Rowling is still rich, still doing what she does, and WB may or may not make a sequel to the game. JK would just have slightly less money.

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Gobstoppers12
02/14/23 7:01:36 PM
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Akagami_Shanks posted...
also what exactly is the endgame of the boycott.
There is no plan. It's driven by resentment and spite, not any actual goal that can be achieved.

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AlmightyCheeks
02/14/23 7:03:35 PM
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EmbraceOfDeath posted...
They could just not and ignore the nobodies complaining.


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hockeybub89
02/14/23 7:07:00 PM
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Hinakuluiau posted...
I support people who don't want to buy the game because of Rowling, I just don't think it means the buyers are bigots
Yeah, more power to people if they want to boycott, and honestly I want Rowling fail. I'd love to see her have to sell off the WW. We all make compromises and give money to bad people, but doesn't mean I'd weep if I lost out on those things because those people were brought down.

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gmanthebest
02/14/23 7:07:55 PM
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You can just admit that people complaining about the name are making fake outrage just to shit on the game.

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Revelation34
02/15/23 12:52:42 AM
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SenlinDescends posted...

Rather it should be taken from her and she should get nothing.

Frankly I say she deserves everything taken from her but some jokers think that's too extreme.


You can't just take copyrights away from somebody.

GranolaPanic posted...
You dont want to talk about it because you didnt know the origins of the name.


Yep, definitely. @Conflict own up to your bullshit.

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BloodMoon7
02/15/23 12:59:12 AM
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What's wrong with Sirona? It's not like it's Machona or Dudena something.

Dicksona

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Revelation34
02/15/23 1:01:06 AM
#74:


BloodMoon7 posted...
What's wrong with Sirona? It's not like it's Machona or Dudena something.

Dicksona


Nothing. They didn't know the name was the name of a goddess.

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BloodMoon7
02/15/23 1:03:03 AM
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Revelation34 posted...
Nothing. They didn't know the name was the name of a goddess.
It's a pretty sweet name all joking aside. Pretty epic.

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dancing_cactuar
02/15/23 1:12:28 AM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
It's hard to find compromise when people are like "Do exactly what I want or nothing you do counts for anything".
And it still won't be enough, as Mick Gordon found out after announcing he'll funnel all his Atomic Heart dosh towards support for Ukraine and still getting massively dumped on by people, which for the record, he signed onto the project three years ago before the war was even a thing. It will never be enough with the terminally online.

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MyShirona
02/15/23 1:22:18 AM
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Zikten posted...
Sirona is a Celtic goddess

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirona?wprov=sfla1
Sirona is a goddess of snakes and eggs. So cock and balls joke.

And nobody here bothered to look into what her surname means. But for the record, Ryan means "little king" so there you have it. "Little king dicknballs" is about as on the nose as you can get. The fact that Sirona also fits in Sir is just rubbing salt in the wound.
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BloodMoon7
02/15/23 1:25:52 AM
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Harry Potter and The King of Little Dicknballs

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dancing_cactuar
02/15/23 1:47:30 AM
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I'm pretty sure someone has to have posted what happened to Zepla at this point, a FF XIV streamer who had to flee from Kyiv before shit hit the fan and had her entire life uprooted by literal fascism, ended up getting harassed for the crime of playing Hogwarts Legacy.

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Foppe
02/15/23 3:06:53 AM
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MyShirona posted...
Sirona is a goddess of snakes and eggs. So cock and balls joke.

And nobody here bothered to look into what her surname means. But for the record, Ryan means "little king" so there you have it. "Little king dicknballs" is about as on the nose as you can get. The fact that Sirona also fits in Sir is just rubbing salt in the wound.
Some times a trans character named after a Celtic Goddess is just a trans character named after a Celtic Goddess.

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Jennywentnorth8
02/15/23 3:16:13 AM
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MyShirona posted...
Sirona is a goddess of snakes and eggs. So cock and balls joke.

And nobody here bothered to look into what her surname means. But for the record, Ryan means "little king" so there you have it. "Little king dicknballs" is about as on the nose as you can get. The fact that Sirona also fits in Sir is just rubbing salt in the wound.


Nah nah this post can't be real. Nope not gettin me this time CE u lil troller u

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TMOG
02/15/23 3:25:00 AM
#82:


Zikten posted...
Sirona is a Celtic goddess

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirona?wprov=sfla1
I get it, but there are a lot of Celtic goddesses, including some who would fit the character better thematically as a namesake. Choosing "Sirona" was fairly arbitrary and honestly could have been thought out better considering the optics around JK Rowling and the game itself; especially when the character is also given the surname "Ryan", which tends to be associated more as a male name despite being gender-neutral in the context it's used.

Not to mention that the goddess Sirona has multiple spellings that could have been used, and that her symbols include a snake and eggs -- I'll let your imagination fill in that last one for you.
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gmanthebest
02/15/23 3:27:41 AM
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Damn, look at all this reaching over a fucking name

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TMOG
02/15/23 3:34:58 AM
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gmanthebest posted...
Damn, look at all this reaching over a fucking name
Not saying there isn't any reaching going on, but there are definitely some takeaways from the name that indicate that even if it wasn't chosen maliciously (which I don't believe it was), it definitely should have been better researched and possibly considered a little better considering the conversation around Rowling and the game.

They honestly should have realized that "Sirona Ryan" is a name that would raise a few eyebrows when given to a trans woman, even if it was intended as an innocent reference to a Celtic goddess. As I mentioned, there were alternate spellings available for them to choose from, and no reason to lock themselves into a masculine-sounding surname that literally means "King".
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Revelation34
02/15/23 3:35:40 AM
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MyShirona posted...

Sirona is a goddess of snakes and eggs. So cock and balls joke.

And nobody here bothered to look into what her surname means. But for the record, Ryan means "little king" so there you have it. "Little king dicknballs" is about as on the nose as you can get. The fact that Sirona also fits in Sir is just rubbing salt in the wound.


Well at least there was an effort. I'll rate the troll about a 6/10.

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Gobstoppers12
02/15/23 4:42:19 AM
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TMOG posted...
a masculine-sounding surname
bruh stop

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TMOG
02/15/23 4:46:44 AM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
bruh stop
Are you going to melty yourself into being Warned again, or maybe shoot for something bigger this time?
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Gobstoppers12
02/15/23 4:51:34 AM
#88:


TMOG posted...
Are you going to melty yourself into being Warned again, or maybe shoot for something bigger this time?
I'm giving you a friendly word of sympathetic caution. You're kind of making yourself look unreasonable when you say things like that.

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Priere
02/15/23 8:32:26 AM
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How do we even know the character is a transgender folk? Does it say it in their backstory or something?

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asdf8562
02/15/23 8:49:33 AM
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Or they should just keep their money and not care about the outrage culture finger wagging crowd of the week.
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Gwynevere
02/15/23 9:01:45 AM
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dancing_cactuar posted...
And it still won't be enough, as Mick Gordon found out after announcing he'll funnel all his Atomic Heart dosh towards support for Ukraine and still getting massively dumped on by people, which for the record, he signed onto the project three years ago before the war was even a thing. It will never be enough with the terminally online.
It was rightfully pointed out that he donated to a charity that hasn't really done shit for Ukraine, and should have given more thought into where he was donating. And a lot of replies to his tweet were from Ukranians. Most of the sentiment is at least appreciating the gesture. There's no comparison here.

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Geist_des_Durcheinan
02/15/23 9:06:08 AM
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Why does everyone care so much about what some old bag thinks about trans people?

Move on with your lives, people.

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SenlinDescends
02/15/23 9:07:30 AM
#95:


Geist_des_Durcheinan posted...
Why does everyone care so much about what some old bag thinks about trans people?

Move on with your lives, people.
Because it effects people even if they ignore it. She's inflaming the anti trans movement, which is getting people targeted and killed.

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Blue_Inigo
02/15/23 9:09:59 AM
#96:


Geist_des_Durcheinan posted...
Why does everyone care so much about what some old bag thinks about trans people?

Move on with your lives, people.
She's mega rich and uses her status to influence politics to harm trans people

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Gwynevere
02/15/23 9:14:55 AM
#97:


Geist_des_Durcheinan posted...
Why does everyone care so much about what some old bag thinks about trans people?

Move on with your lives, people.
If the voices of transphobes are allowed to spread unchecked, then that's all people will hear. Disinformation needs to be debunked and called out whenever it pops up, especially from people with as wide of an influence as Rowling, so people have the actual facts when it comes to trans people. That was true and will always be true regardless of anyone's feelings on this dumb HL controversy

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Geist_des_Durcheinan
02/15/23 10:53:49 AM
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The only people that are listening to her are the people that already believe it. She isn't swaying anyone.

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Revelation34
02/15/23 11:04:56 AM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...

I'm giving you a friendly word of sympathetic caution. You're kind of making yourself look unreasonable when you say things like that.


Kind of?

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CyricZ
02/15/23 11:09:56 AM
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Geist_des_Durcheinan posted...
The only people that are listening to her are the people that already believe it. She isn't swaying anyone.
Neutrality always serves the oppressor.

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