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ROOTFayth
01/20/23 1:26:17 PM
#51:


hockeybub89 posted...
Republicans seem to be under the impression that someone can burn through their EBT card or welfare check in a day and then just press the "Free Money" button and receive a new one every day.

They truly think people on food stamps live a cushier life than the middle class.
lots of them are abusing the system though, my sister is the best example of this, she's on a welfare program over here in canada and they didnt work for 10 yrs because her and her boyfriend were constantly finding new excuses not to work, he now found a job but he's paid in cash so they can keep getting the welfare checks

I know I'm paying for this shit with my taxes and it's annoying but it's my sister and she has childen so clearly I'm not going to do anything about it

edit: I'm gonna clarify that this doesn't mean I am for those new restrictions in case someone wants to jump at my throat for saying some people are abusing the system
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Intro2Logic
01/20/23 1:26:29 PM
#52:


TMOG posted...
Look up which states benefit from welfare programs the most and how those votes tend to vote

Questions: who are the poor people in the American South? Might there be some historical reasons why?

That aside, the poor in any state are less likely to vote, and those that do majority vote for Democrats. We have data on this!

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Questionmarktarius
01/20/23 1:27:16 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
They truly think people on food stamps live a cushier life than the middle class.
It just takes one facebook post about someone buying a cart full of steaks and paying with EBT...

I'm leaning towards option 1 anyway.
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COVxy
01/20/23 1:29:36 PM
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Middle class and upper middle class America is so far divorced from the American poor that they just have no idea what that population looks like. So they just make up bullshit based on the stereotypes they hear.

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TheGoldenEel
01/20/23 1:35:56 PM
#55:


ROOTFayth posted...
I mean I'm guessing its just a money thing right? like fresh meat is a lot more expensive than canned fish
No, it literally is not a money thing

the purpose is to punish people for being poor by arbitrarily restricting the food they can eat

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CyricZ
01/20/23 1:36:25 PM
#56:


hockeybub89 posted...
Republicans seem to be under the impression that someone can burn through their EBT card or welfare check in a day and then just press the "Free Money" button and receive a new one every day.

They truly think people on food stamps live a cushier life than the middle class.
It's a question about their perspective on "earn". To them, this benefit was not "earned", and therefore should not be given.

Republicans operate under a framework that life itself must be earned, that if you do not earn, then you die.

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Pogo_Marimo
01/20/23 1:48:12 PM
#57:


TheGoldenEel posted...
No, it literally is not a money thing

the purpose is to punish people for being poor by arbitrarily restricting the food they can eat
This is obviously the truth. Nobody who is compassionate and understanding of the poor's situation would create rules like this. Even a Policy Making Robot with it's cold, hard logic would be able to understand the dehumanizing effects policies like this have on economically disenfranchised people and how counter-productive it is as a measure to "rehabilitate them" into "not being poor". These policies are created from a place of resentment and justified with Late-Stage Capitalism gobbledygook to convince themselves that they are just and moral in oppressing the poor even further.

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Heartomaton
01/20/23 1:52:51 PM
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Once the extra food stamps from covid benefits go away in March, you want to know how much I'll be getting in food stamps per month?

$23.

Not $230. $23.

I already don't know how I'm supposed to feed myself on that as it is. If these restrictions pass, the impossible becomes even impossible... er.


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cjsdowg
01/20/23 1:53:29 PM
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This pisses me off so much. My blood pressure just has gotten extremely high. They are evil evil evil. There is not other word for them. They re targeting children with this. Kids eat those American cheese slices. Fuck them so much.

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Prismsblade
01/20/23 1:56:50 PM
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If this is a money money concern I assume their logic is to simply make the program as shitty as possible so users will willingly leave it.

Rather then dealing with the cirtism and pushback it'd cause just trying to end it.

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ScazarMeltex
01/20/23 2:00:59 PM
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Does the GOP not realize that their base is one of the largest demographics on SNAP?

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COVxy
01/20/23 2:05:34 PM
#62:


ScazarMeltex posted...
Does the GOP not realize that their base is one of the largest demographics on SNAP?

The poor overwhelmingly vote democrat.

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the_pika
01/20/23 2:08:03 PM
#63:


COVxy posted...
The poor overwhelmingly vote democrat.

not remotely true.

poor urban people? For sure.

rural? What GOP moral compass carrier Kid Rock would call the PoDunk? They vote overwhelmingly GOP:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4KnAzpi4avo

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CADE_FOSTER
01/20/23 2:09:44 PM
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republicans always gotta be evil as fuck to the poor but they will bend over backwards for the rich
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COVxy
01/20/23 2:10:16 PM
#66:


the_pika posted...
not remotely true.

https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/religious-landscape-study/compare/party-affiliation/by/income-distribution/

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ScazarMeltex
01/20/23 2:13:00 PM
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COVxy posted...
The poor overwhelmingly vote democrat.
Rural areas use more SNAP benefits than urban areas. Rural areas also overwhelmingly vote republican.

https://news.stlpublicradio.org/government-politics-issues/2021-10-24/federal-food-benefits-help-rural-economies-more-than-urban-ones

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the_pika
01/20/23 2:13:23 PM
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COVxy posted...
https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/religious-landscape-study/compare/party-affiliation/by/income-distribution/

youre not listening. Re-read my post
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COVxy
01/20/23 2:14:21 PM
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the_pika posted...
youre not listening. Re-read my post

I'm listening to the data, which say that what I said is true.

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CADE_FOSTER
01/20/23 2:15:01 PM
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if this passes guess who the gop will blame the dems like always
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DipDipDiver
01/20/23 2:15:36 PM
#71:


How can they even justify taking fresh meat off in favor of canned meat, wtf
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the_pika
01/20/23 2:15:50 PM
#72:


COVxy posted...
I'm listening to the data, which say that what I said is true.

youre listening to the data you want to listen.

do you really think there is no rural vs urban divide in voting patterns?
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ROOTFayth
01/20/23 2:16:00 PM
#73:


TheGoldenEel posted...
No, it literally is not a money thing

the purpose is to punish people for being poor by arbitrarily restricting the food they can eat
I don't buy this man, it's always about the money, you think they're just evil and want random poor families to starve or something? the SNAP benefits are just now going to cost them less money with these restrictions in place, nothing else make sense
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Halo478
01/20/23 2:17:15 PM
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the cruelty is always the point with republicans they hate the poor even tho its there shitty ass policies that keep them poor

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GreenMario
01/20/23 2:17:31 PM
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That's bullshit

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CARRRNE_ASADA
01/20/23 2:27:10 PM
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The whole grain tends to be healthier although slightly more expensive, but then you see the no fresh meats allowed and you wonder WTF are they going for here. Also a weird take from the GOP and politicians in general who are in favor of subsidizing the meat market.

But at the end of day its a fascist and silly/awful restriction. Although we know that the GOPs ulltimate goal is to abolish all federal aid.

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Gobstoppers12
01/20/23 2:36:59 PM
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Hasn't it recently come out that white rice is healthier than brown rice

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ROOTFayth
01/20/23 2:40:06 PM
#81:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
Hasn't it recently come out that white rice is healthier than brown rice
source? because studies I've seen state the opposite, people talk about anti nutrients in whole food plants but when cooked properly these anti nutrients are basically gone
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TMOG
01/20/23 2:42:04 PM
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Is that what I said?
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TheGoldenEel
01/20/23 2:52:03 PM
#84:


ROOTFayth posted...
I don't buy this man, it's always about the money, you think they're just evil and want random poor families to starve or something? the SNAP benefits are just now going to cost them less money with these restrictions in place, nothing else make sense
What do you think costs more, giving someone $200 a month, or giving someone $200 a month and implementing restrictions on how they can spend it?

these programs that punish welfare recipients consistently cost MORE money. See also: drug testing welfare recipients, which typically costs way more money to implement than the savings they get by kicking a small number of drug addicts off welfare

it is, quite literally, designed to punish poor people

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CADE_FOSTER
01/20/23 3:57:13 PM
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smh
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Southernfatman
01/20/23 4:06:56 PM
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Right wingers would be happy if poor people just starved to death. They're "pro life" though...

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Antifar
01/20/23 6:33:02 PM
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We really need to stamp out this idea that the GOP's base is poor

https://www.facingsouth.org/2017/06/rural-south-defies-demographic-and-political-stereotypes
First of all, most Trump voters were not members of the white working class. In reality, about 65 percent of white Trump voters had incomes of over $50,000 a year. Even among white voters without college degrees who voted for Trump, 60 percent were in the top half of the income distribution.



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Tmaster148
01/20/23 6:42:41 PM
#89:


ROOTFayth posted...
no white grains is a blessing in disguise, everything else I have no idea what the point is, they're trying to save money?

White grains are cheaper. Which for people on SNAP have limited money to use for food. There's certainly no goal in forcing people to make cheaper choices, just making it harder for those on assistance to feed themselves.

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Anteaterking
01/20/23 6:47:37 PM
#90:


the_pika posted...
do you really think there is no rural vs urban divide in voting patterns?

If there are 20000 rural poor people who 100% vote Republican and 4 million urban poor people who vote Democrat 50.5% of the time, that's 2.02 million Democrats and 2 million Republicans. Aka poor people are more Democratic than Republican even though the Republicans are dominating in those rural areas.

You have a framing problem where "white rural" people are the face of the poor and therefore there votes inform who the "party of the poor" is more.

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frozenstar
01/20/23 7:02:24 PM
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This makes me very angry.


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ROOTFayth
01/20/23 7:05:49 PM
#92:


Tmaster148 posted...
White grains are cheaper. Which for people on SNAP have limited money to use for food. There's certainly no goal in forcing people to make cheaper choices, just making it harder for those on assistance to feed themselves.
same price here, why would they stop them from buying white grains if it was cheaper?
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COVxy
01/20/23 7:16:30 PM
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It's wild that people will look at data showing a 7% vs 50% comparison of R and D support for those making less than 30k and still hold tightly to the belief that the poor are very red.

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wanderingshade
01/20/23 7:29:22 PM
#94:


COVxy posted...
It's wild that people will look at data showing a 7% vs 50% comparison of R and D support for those making less than 30k and still hold tightly to the belief that the poor are very red.

It's just as confusing to realize they're blue collar workers making $60K a year that vote for Politicians pushing anti-union and right to work laws and very Evangelical or Catholic and very un-Christlike wishing to discriminate against LGBT people or punish people for (insert reason) because it wouldn't be "fair" in some way if they weren't punished or some such nonsense. And they're this way because American Exceptionalism and Patriotism is their crack, Christianity is their air and Reagan is their God and Jerry Falwell and Anita Bryant are their patron saints.

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COVxy
01/20/23 7:31:43 PM
#95:


wanderingshade posted...
It's just as confusing to realize they're blue collar workers making $60K a year that vote for Politicians pushing anti-union and right to work laws and very Evangelical or Catholic and very un-Christlike wishing to discriminate against LGBT people or punish people for (insert reason) because it wouldn't be "fair" in some way if they weren't punished or some such nonsense. And they're this way because American Exceptionalism and Patriotism is their crack, Christianity is their air and Reagan is their God and Jerry Falwell and Anita Bryant are their patron saints.

I'm not entirely certain what your point was but you wrote it as if you are agreeing with me but it seems as though you don't.

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FigureOfSpeech
01/20/23 7:35:40 PM
#96:


frozenstar posted...
This makes me very angry.

why? your diet consists of more than formula and little jars of gerber food?

-_-

(I normally wouldn't point out sarcasm because I would assume it would be assumed... but in this case I want to be clear that this is something that pisses me off too. It's fucked up and it's disgusting what they are doing).
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wanderingshade
01/20/23 7:40:41 PM
#97:


COVxy posted...
I'm not entirely certain what your point was but you wrote it as if you are agreeing with me but it seems as though you don't.

My point was mentioning who they actually are. It's kind of easy to pretend they're all shit kicking bumpkins but my Aunt is a hardcore fundie christian who voted for Trump twice who believes the pandemic was about "control and fear" and has a ~$700,000 house.

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TheGoldenEel
01/20/23 7:43:33 PM
#98:


ROOTFayth posted...
same price here, why would they stop them from buying white grains if it was cheaper?
Because the point is to punish poor people

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agoat
01/21/23 11:41:53 PM
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JFC isn't that mondo unhealthy? Like no fresh meat, not even frozen meats that are a little bit cheaper? JFC man republicans really hate poor people, don't they? Like REALLY fucking hate. The thought of poor people having a burger must keep them up at night.

Looks like meats not on the menu boys =(

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kingdrake2
01/21/23 11:47:39 PM
#100:


agoat posted...
Looks like meats not on the menu boys =(


damn... i feed my dog that shit. have to spend out of pocket now that the GOP doesn't want me to have frozen chicken breasts.

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