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BlueTigerLion
09/28/22 10:08:46 AM
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count them as apart of a users poor mod history.

Meaning, that it use to be really hard to get suspended. Like you had to be really irresponsible. Youd have to gather up like 4-6 regular moderations in a short period of time, or do something egregious.

I managed to get a few suspensions at the tail end of 2021, beginning of 2022. One was considered egregious, and it allowed the others less egregious things to pile up and turn into suspensions due to the poor mod history.

Regardless of whether I agree with them or not, the process was still sound. A super serious ToS violation = instant suspension, and a string up of mild moderations in a short time frame afterwards meant additional suspensions.

But, if the goal of the suspensions are to ultimately encourage me to behave and become a more productive user, then I have been.

I rarely get any moderations anymore. However still get suspended occasionally which doesnt really make any sense.

If you discount the string of suspensions from earlier in the year I would have a very clean mod history. I would not have had any active moderations at all for quite some time actually.

Today I had a two week old post get moderated for trolling which was borderline. Maybe it gets overturned, and maybe it doesnt, either way its not a big deal. However, I cant contest it at all because it got me suspended.

The only justification for this is that the moderator glanced my history, saw I had a string of suspensions, assumed they were recent, and then used that to justify his action.

If the suspensions are from a very long time ago, then they shouldnt have any baring on whether or not an off topic, disruptive, or lighthearted shitpost results in a purgatory.

Suspensions given as a result of harmless violations should only be given if they are culminative in nature. Meaning, a bunch of them are committed within a very short amount of time.

Suspending someone for having just a single moderation despite being largely well behaved over a long period of time doesnt make any sense at all. What is the point?

Just be aware of the suspension date when glancing at someones mod history. Its the responsible thing to do.

Saw that post in another board what does CE think of it?

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Umbreon
09/28/22 10:10:44 AM
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I think following the ToU avoids 99% of problems.

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CableZL
09/28/22 10:11:07 AM
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Umbreon posted...
I think following the ToU avoids 99% of problems.
Pretty much

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meestermj
09/28/22 10:11:50 AM
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Umbreon posted...
I think following the ToU avoids 99% of problems.
Agreed.
Dont habitually break rules and you'll be fine.

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JlM
09/28/22 10:12:25 AM
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BlueTigerLion posted...
I don't think my past shit posts should be counted as my past shit posts


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Damn_Underscore
09/28/22 10:12:36 AM
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Whether justified or not complaining about your mod history will never get any sympathy

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party_animal07
09/28/22 10:14:58 AM
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Some people take this shit waaaay too seriously. If that person isn't a teenager, they should take a walk. A long one.

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BlueTigerLion
09/28/22 10:17:04 AM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
Whether justified or not complaining about your mod history will never get any sympathy

I think it is to spark a discussion on something about the site. For years this site didnt have an edit button. But enough people complained that Reddit and other forums has it leading to our site getting that feature.

In terms of moderation I think people complaining led to the mod vote feature. It used to be you get modded you would have to appeal to the mod who modded you. So changes do happen when people complain. Not sure if that user's complaint will lead to any changes but it is an interesting comment.

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meestermj
09/28/22 10:18:43 AM
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BlueTigerLion posted...
So changes do happen when people complain.
This isn't a change that needs to happen though, and wouldn't better the board.

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Umbreon
09/28/22 10:22:19 AM
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Vast majority of the people who complain about the change of purgs now lasting a year on your account... seem to be the people who constantly go in and out of purgatory.

Sounds like the system is working in that case.

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Returning_CEmen
09/28/22 10:24:04 AM
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Its not that hard to not get modded

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pauIie
09/28/22 10:24:40 AM
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just be a good human and you'll be fine

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Bio1590
09/28/22 10:24:40 AM
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If anything the moderation system still needs to be made even more hostile to the people like whoever posted that OP.

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kingdrake2
09/28/22 10:35:15 AM
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takes at least 2 warns to get suspended. then low level purgatory.

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Kloe_Rinz
09/28/22 10:35:55 AM
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mods never typed up responses, it was all templates and shit if you ever got any justification at all which is rare in and of itself
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BlueTigerLion
09/28/22 10:39:16 AM
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kingdrake2 posted...
takes at least 2 warns to get suspended. then low level purgatory.

People get suspended as their first moderation all the time.

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Umbreon
09/28/22 10:42:04 AM
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BlueTigerLion posted...
People get suspended as their first moderation all the time.

Yeah if you shitpost on your fresh alt, or do something very fucked up.

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DespondentDeity
09/28/22 10:42:50 AM
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Haha shut the fuck up

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TheSavageDragon
09/28/22 10:43:14 AM
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I just read that yesterday and I got to say it's damn nice of you not to mention the board or poster, TC.
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Oubliettes
09/28/22 10:51:20 AM
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90% of my posts are absolute shit posts and ive been suspended once in 20 years, and even then that suspension came back as a warn not a purg

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Pastryarchy
09/28/22 11:00:28 AM
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Suspension is like a felony charge on record.

Why should that NOT be accounted for in a user's moderation history...?

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Kloe_Rinz
09/29/22 12:06:31 AM
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Pastryarchy posted...
Suspension is like a felony charge on record.

Why should that NOT be accounted for in a user's moderation history...?
Because you dont get a felony for jaywalking when theres 50 other people jaywalking around you including 3 police who are also jaywalking
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EyeWontBeFooled
09/29/22 12:29:59 AM
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It's literally not hard to follow the rules

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Evening_Dragon
09/29/22 12:34:20 AM
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The standards shift often enough that I think quite a few people are just caught off guard, and end up getting a bunch of moderations in short order, which ends up turning any sparse would-be moderations into bigger suspensions.

Obviously, this doesn't include users who make new accounts constantly.

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Trumble
09/29/22 12:40:31 AM
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kingdrake2 posted...
takes at least 2 warns to get suspended. then low level purgatory.
No it doesn't. I got suspended a while back for a post that was literally just a mod failing to recognize I was mocking conspiracists, not pushing their theories, with only one warn (that was a few days away from dropping off my history) on record. I don't get regularly moderated either; the only other one I had at the time was a technical NKL (quoting a violation) and haven't had any others since.

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BlueTigerLion
10/01/22 8:29:00 AM
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TheSavageDragon posted...
I just read that yesterday and I got to say it's damn nice of you not to mention the board or poster, TC.

Yea looks like the user rage quit the site and closed account.

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Foppe
10/01/22 9:54:24 AM
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Perhaps the change was in our hearts all this time.

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Alteres
10/01/22 9:59:53 AM
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There are approximately 769 registered users

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