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BlueTigerLion
09/26/22 3:28:08 PM
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I kinda want to live under a rock and not see the news every day. Kind of like how the war in Afghanistan and Iraq went. Or even now with Syria they had a civil war for 10+ years and I dont hear about it on the front page.

I wish mainstream media was like r/worldnews where they have the Ukraine/Russia filter to remove it from your feeds.

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Solar_Crimson
09/26/22 3:33:02 PM
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Why do you want to avoid news about the Ukraine/Russia war?

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Ajiri
09/26/22 3:40:23 PM
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I guess, but I wouldnt want to live an ignorant life like that.

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hockeybub89
09/26/22 3:40:59 PM
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Why don't you want current events on the news?

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maxdisco
09/26/22 3:48:36 PM
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90% of news on the war is just propaganda from either side

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BlueTigerLion
09/26/22 3:50:01 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
Why do you want to avoid news about the Ukraine/Russia war?

This user sums it up...

maxdisco posted...
90% of news on the war is just propaganda from either side


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TheGoldenEel
09/26/22 3:51:08 PM
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maxdisco posted...
90% of news on the war is just propaganda from either side
2006 account with 5 active posts trying to muddy the waters and both sides Russia invading a sovereign nation for no reason

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Temporal
09/26/22 3:53:30 PM
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TheGoldenEel posted...
2006 account with 5 active posts trying to muddy the waters and both sides Russia invading a sovereign nation for no reason

Both sides argument has no basis but lol at thinking you aren't being fed propaganda
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BlueTigerLion
09/26/22 4:03:06 PM
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TheGoldenEel posted...
2006 account with 5 active posts trying to muddy the waters and both sides Russia invading a sovereign nation for no reason

This isnt really a both sides thing. Western media like CNN, NBC, CBS, etc only cover the Ukraine politician's side. If you hear about the Russian it is rarely from their politicians. It is usually on the civilian or troop level.

Will just throw out an example off the front page
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/sep/26/russia-man-shoots-commander-drafting-residents-for-war-in-ukraine


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Evening_Dragon
09/26/22 4:06:18 PM
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Temporal posted...
Both sides argument has no basis but lol at thinking you aren't being fed propaganda

Okay, 12 amp.

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maxdisco
09/26/22 4:07:34 PM
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TheGoldenEel posted...
2006 account with 5 active posts trying to muddy the waters and both sides Russia invading a sovereign nation for no reason
People on here that say this are so insufferable. Just looking for reasons to discard opposing opinions.

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ZevLoveDOOM
09/26/22 4:10:22 PM
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i know these type of events can be depressing af to keep up with but at least i like to stay informed on what's happening around the world...
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creativeme
09/26/22 4:12:49 PM
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I never really watch the news but at work people will usually have it on in the lunch room and i haven't heard them mention anything about the ukraine war since like june. even covid they barely say anything anymore. granted i'm only listening to the news a little bit at a time but still. definitely not the only thing they talk about.

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averagejoel
09/26/22 4:13:17 PM
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TheGoldenEel posted...
2006 account with 5 active posts trying to muddy the waters and both sides Russia invading a sovereign nation for no reason
first: that isn't what's happening here

second: russia did not invade "for no reason." I get that Iraq and Afghanistan may have skewed how you perceive wars abroad but you really shouldn't conflate that with reality

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gikos
09/26/22 4:18:35 PM
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BlueTigerLion posted...
Which I get it is a war and the media may want to sway public opinion a certain way. I rather opt out and not care about their war. I care more about the rising prices at the Grocery store and when that will end.
well at least your honest about being petty and only caring about yourself but sure how dare they fight for their lives and not give up and let the russians kill them so you don't suffer a bit compared to the horror they are going thru

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TheGoldenEel
09/26/22 4:19:31 PM
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People with extremely few posts coming out of the woodwork ITT to defend russia

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gikos
09/26/22 4:22:22 PM
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TheGoldenEel posted...
People with extremely few posts coming out of the woodwork ITT to defend russia
most likely it's the same user trying to downplay what russia is doing and defending them now the question is who is it's main any bets guy's i feel it's a certain user who was whining about his parents not driving them to their girlfriends house during covid >_>

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Temporal
09/26/22 4:23:45 PM
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gikos posted...
most likely it's the same user trying to downplay what russia is doing and defending them now the question is who is it's main any bets guy's i feel it's a certain user who was whining about his parents not driving them to their girlfriends house during covid >_>

what the fuck is this post lol

TheGoldenEel posted...
People with extremely few posts coming out of the woodwork ITT to defend russia

neolibs and lack of critical thinking name a more iconic duo
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trappedunderice
09/26/22 4:24:43 PM
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War is profitable, I wonder how much money was made through illegal arns sales
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averagejoel
09/26/22 4:26:02 PM
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TheGoldenEel posted...
People with extremely few posts coming out of the woodwork ITT to defend russia
???

which posts did you interpret as defending russia?

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gikos
09/26/22 4:26:45 PM
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Temporal posted...
what the fuck is this post lol
oh my hit a nerve did i
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Crimsoness
09/26/22 4:28:36 PM
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I for one am shocked that joel would side with Russia

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averagejoel
09/26/22 4:29:22 PM
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Crimsoness posted...
I for one am shocked that joel would side with Russia
I would also be shocked if I did

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ultimate_reaver
09/26/22 4:29:59 PM
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I guarantee you aren't learning anything useful by following it so if it bothers you go ahead and filter it. 90% of what you run into in social media is either russian or ukrainian propaganda, or guys with flags in their names posting one or the other excitedly because they're watching people kill each other like it's a sports game

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BlueTigerLion
09/26/22 4:31:03 PM
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gikos posted...
well at least your honest about being petty and only caring about yourself but sure how dare they fight for their lives and not give up and let the russians kill them so you don't suffer a bit compared to the horror they are going thru

Im not saying how dare they fight for their lives. I would compare it to the NHL Finals or whatever the US soccer league is called. The result doesnt effect me and wish I could filter out the news if Hockey or Soccer was on the front page every day.

It isnt like reading the Ukraine/Russia news is going to provide me anything insightful on my life. Other than one side winning the war. Which based off the Syrian War could go on for 10+ years. And I dont hear anyone in this thread pushing for more Syrian news on the front page.

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averagejoel
09/26/22 4:31:28 PM
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ultimate_reaver posted...
I guarantee you aren't learning anything useful by following it so if it bothers you go ahead and filter it. 90% of what you run into in social media is either russian or ukrainian propaganda, or guys with flags in their names posting one or the other excitedly because they're watching people kill each other like it's a sports game
the latter category is part of the former

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Crimsoness
09/26/22 4:33:07 PM
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Then please explain joel explain why Russia declared war on Ukraine.

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Mia_K97
09/26/22 4:34:32 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
Why do you want to avoid news about the Ukraine/Russia war?

why do you care
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ROBANN_88
09/26/22 4:34:49 PM
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averagejoel posted...
second: russia did not invade "for no reason."
No valid reason

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gikos
09/26/22 4:35:54 PM
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trappedunderice posted...
War is profitable, I wonder how much money was made through illegal arns sales
i keep telling myself not to be surprised by maga cults and putin shills but dear lord you guy's still manage to surprise me on how divorced from reality you guy's are


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accord
09/26/22 4:37:37 PM
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the ones i actually want to avoid are news on deaths of some not really known people, i dont know or care much about them but it just sometimes randomly make me sad and think about things.
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Suolevram
09/26/22 4:40:31 PM
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Might as well face it. Hiding from reality isn't going to do you any favors.

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averagejoel
09/26/22 4:43:16 PM
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Crimsoness posted...
Then please explain joel explain why Russia declared war on Ukraine.
consider my position here for a moment.

you have just requested that I explain, to you, a complicated sociopolitical relationship between two nations. you have also already shown in this topic that you are very likely to ignore my words and simply make something up and hit me with baseless accusations instead of engaging with what I say.

were you in my position, would you be very likely to answer your question respectfully?

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Kloe_Rinz
09/26/22 4:44:31 PM
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averagejoel posted...
consider my position here for a moment.

you have just requested that I explain, to you, a complicated sociopolitical relationship between two nations. you have also already shown in this topic that you are very likely to ignore my words and simply make something up and hit me with baseless accusations instead of engaging with what I say.

were you in my position, would you be very likely to answer your question respectfully?
to be frank, you have a vile and digesting opinion on this topic and you should be jumping at any opportunity someone is giving you to explain yourself if you were being sincere
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averagejoel
09/26/22 4:46:14 PM
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Kloe_Rinz posted...
to be frank, you have a vile and digesting opinion on this topic and you should be jumping at any opportunity someone is giving you to explain yourself if you were being genuine
elaborate please. what is my "vile and disgusting opinion" on this topic?

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maxdisco
09/26/22 4:47:49 PM
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gikos posted...
i keep telling myself not to be surprised by maga cults and putin shills but dear lord you guy's still manage to surprise me on how divorced from reality you guy's are
You're naive if you don't think arms manufacturers salivate at the thought of war

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RenescoStCewl
09/26/22 4:54:56 PM
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averagejoel posted...
elaborate please. what is my "vile and disgusting opinion" on this topic?
No one fall for this bait. Everyone knows he denies certain things.

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Prismsblade
09/26/22 5:15:05 PM
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I can't really blame TC to be honest. Almost all news covering the war is propaganda if from a mainstream, goverment affiliated news network or site. That includes YouTube and Twitter.

Even discussions on the matter are boring because it's all been mostly the same stuff on repeat for months now.

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Evening_Dragon
09/26/22 5:20:18 PM
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Prismsblade posted...
I can't really blame TC to be honest. Almost all news covering the war is propaganda if from a mainstream, goverment affiliated news network or site. That includes YouTube and Twitter.

Even discussions on the matter are boring because it's all been mostly the same stuff on repeat for months now.

What, do you out n out support Russia, or is it a conspiracy theory?

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Prismsblade
09/26/22 6:00:22 PM
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Evening_Dragon posted...
What, do you out n out support Russia, or is it a conspiracy theory?
Nah, I just don't like propaganda. Don't overthink it.

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Damn_Underscore
09/26/22 6:04:36 PM
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but you wouldn't see this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcdcUsnLc1Y

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hockeybub89
09/26/22 6:34:19 PM
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averagejoel posted...
first: that isn't what's happening here

second: russia did not invade "for no reason." I get that Iraq and Afghanistan may have skewed how you perceive wars abroad but you really shouldn't conflate that with reality
I think he means "no valid reason", which is correct.

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Gobstoppers12
09/26/22 6:49:42 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
I think he means "no valid reason", which is correct.
Oh, he knows.

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averagejoel
09/26/22 9:22:07 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
I think he means "no valid reason", which is correct.
first: I generally choose to engage directly with the words presented to me, without attempting to prescribe intent.

second: whether or not the reasons for the war are valid is a completely different conversation that doesn't seem particularly interesting or fruitful to me. feel free to have it with someone else though.

there is an actual decades-long conflict between the two nations here. this war, unlike the wars started by the US over the past ~30 years, is not over nothing. there are complex socioeconomic factors that resulted in this war whether or not you consider them "valid" resaons

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__aCEr__
09/26/22 9:34:45 PM
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TC, part of why prices at the grocery store are rising is because of the war in Ukraine.

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tamagucci
09/26/22 9:39:04 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
Why do you want to avoid news about the Ukraine/Russia war?

90 percent is propaganda
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ehhwhatever
09/26/22 9:49:57 PM
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Dont doom scroll and hit text.npr.org for news.
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hockeybub89
09/27/22 8:08:51 AM
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averagejoel posted...
first: I generally choose to engage directly with the words presented to me, without attempting to prescribe intent.

second: whether or not the reasons for the war are valid is a completely different conversation that doesn't seem particularly interesting or fruitful to me. feel free to have it with someone else though.

there is an actual decades-long conflict between the two nations here. this war, unlike the wars started by the US over the past ~30 years, is not over nothing. there are complex socioeconomic factors that resulted in this war whether or not you consider them "valid" resaons
Dude, Russia is not communist. You don't need to defend them.

If someone said America had no reason (which is often a non-literal phrase) for the War on Terror, you wouldn't be here typing up paragraphs of "well ackshually both sides"

The war is over nothing. Putin is wrong. And we'll all be better off when he is gone and Russia is in open revolt.

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