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ctesjbuvf 09/13/22 6:46:25 AM #351: |
Surely you must have an opinion on some of what happened overnight --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MZero 09/13/22 6:53:54 AM #352: |
I'm just about to start reading it so I'll let you know! --- MZero, to the extreme https://www.twitch.tv/kabazame ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MZero 09/13/22 7:14:38 AM #353: |
UltimaterializerX posted... I was I think the first on HB. Never budged, ultimately proven right. excuse me --- MZero, to the extreme https://www.twitch.tv/kabazame ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MZero 09/13/22 7:18:34 AM #354: |
UltimaterializerX posted... I am requesting you do this change now please. I don't want HB lynched. UltimaterializerX posted... HB should not be lynched. This is a town thought process. UltimaterializerX posted... "HB giving an opinion on me is a bold move. Dont know if he as scum would be petty enough to be saying that just because I questioned him first." UltimaterializerX posted... "ulti is probably scum because he hasnt claimed to have a gamewinning power yet and that scum are idiots for not gunning for him :^)" UltimaterializerX posted... MZero, Death, and Kirby are not trustworthy. That HB lynch stinks. --- MZero, to the extreme https://www.twitch.tv/kabazame ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MZero 09/13/22 7:39:21 AM #355: |
My initial thoughts on reading the mass is that ctes is likely Ninja Watcher and actually did watch Lopen. Faking Psychic makes no sense there with the amount of unclaimed roles that could have targeted him, plus he's at best going 1 for 1 with ctes here which doesn't help scum. That's why I think ctes is Ninja Watcher and actually did watch Lopen twice so he felt okay claiming no one visited him, not accounting for Psychic --- MZero, to the extreme https://www.twitch.tv/kabazame ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ctesjbuvf 09/13/22 7:49:18 AM #356: |
Well, MZero is trying to make sense of both claims, which is more than most and is a good look for him. If I was ninja, I would've said it though. It would be weird to fake visible moment with amount of unclaimed roles as well. I am a confirmable watcher though. I can watch the shop as well to confirm, but if I somehow survive the day confirming me should be unnecessary. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MZero 09/13/22 7:49:35 AM #357: |
I also don't feel like watching Lopen from a Town perspective N2 makes sense, but it does from a scum perspective. N1 would have been trying to catch protection, N2 trying to catch a scanning role. Also, poison on a town role when I'm basically poison doctor is weird --- MZero, to the extreme https://www.twitch.tv/kabazame ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ctesjbuvf 09/13/22 8:00:50 AM #358: |
Well, I thought Lopen could have been ignored n1 maybe for being an obvious protection target so maybe they'd shoot him n2 instead where he didn't look as good but still had showed himself capable of pinning down scum. I was surprised at my upgrade too, specially the random part makes it incredibly risky though I can choose to not use it even if I get it, but you can bet I would've tried to get more gold if I was scum where I could be certain I don't hit a teammate. It does make sense if town is given some way to save an eventual mess up I suppose. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ctesjbuvf 09/13/22 8:05:43 AM #359: |
It looks good on MZero to consider both claims being true. For how long he has been around and the time it should have taken to read makes me worry he had more to read than what is given here. He's certainly making more careful posts than most here, for what that's worth. Was it only Lopen who seemed to accept the ultimate miller concept so easily, because if you believed that day 1 you consider town traps and not setup metaing more here. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ctesjbuvf 09/13/22 8:49:39 AM #360: |
For as much as people seem to agree watching Lopen N2 is a terrible watch, people sure don't mind the inconsistency in Lopen's play from day to go. Try go back and reading some. He switches opinions constantly. His last remark day 1 was also that Hb was probably scum with Sultan for distancing and he walking back on this entirely for no reason. Initially it seemed to be because he thought Kirby was scum but even after we cleared that he doesn't reconsider Hb. He's also both been certain Corrik didn't target Ulti and that he did. Before this mass claim thing stole the show he was thinking Corrik targetted Ulti, which would mean he's not Roshan, but he's still considering Ulti being Roshan now. Lopen is also stating himself constantly that he should be town confirmed for burying Sultan. It's pretty clear now that he was trying to ride that bus to make us meta instead of scumhunt and make us reveal information and make us waste money and other dumb things like that. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ctesjbuvf 09/13/22 8:50:03 AM #361: |
Leaving it at that and then disappearing again is not a good look for MZero however. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ctesjbuvf 09/13/22 8:51:40 AM #362: |
Like screw your pride about Ulti claiming he was the force in a kill you think you're the force in. You know Ulti very well. You don't spend time going back to find Ulti's quotes and then barely do anything besides that. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MZero 09/13/22 8:56:40 AM #363: |
ctesjbuvf posted... Like screw your pride about Ulti claiming he was the force in a kill you think you're the force in. You know Ulti very well. You don't spend time going back to find Ulti's quotes and then barely do anything besides that. you don't know me very well then! what more is there to say? You and Lopen have contradictory claims and we can't really proceed until that's solved. I've laid out why I think it makes more sense for yours to be the fake claim --- MZero, to the extreme https://www.twitch.tv/kabazame ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MZero 09/13/22 9:01:55 AM #364: |
Wait actually I do have something else to say. Did Ulti give a reasoning for why he initially picked you to bodyguard? --- MZero, to the extreme https://www.twitch.tv/kabazame ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ctesjbuvf 09/13/22 9:16:39 AM #365: |
Not as far as I can remember, I was a bit surprised when I had the healing salve used on me too. MZero posted... what more is there to say? You and Lopen have contradictory claims and we can't really proceed until that's solved. I've laid out why I think it makes more sense for yours to be the fake claim You could try to answer why I would not mention being ninja if I was in fact ninja. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ctesjbuvf 09/13/22 9:17:36 AM #366: |
Or you could try to consider not just the claim (neither makes that much sense to fake I must admit) and look at how we've played, who's consistent and who is not. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ctesjbuvf 09/13/22 9:19:49 AM #367: |
A lot of points have been raised after the mass claim that makes sense to consider. This just seems lazy. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Obellisk 09/13/22 9:23:39 AM #368: |
Ctes - I visited Lopen Lopen - No one visited me Ctes - I felt good about after the Sultan flip. however due to process of elimination has ended up lower on the list. Lopen - wouldn't be outside of his wheel house to bury his own team to get a win. Has spent the entire game 3rd party obsessed. --- (\____/) ( SBell ) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ctesjbuvf 09/13/22 9:40:22 AM #369: |
From what I understood the lore about Roshan was that it was some enemy that both sides wanted to kill the fastest. It would seem like Corrik was that on our side. So it certainly makes sense for scum to make the discussion about who that person might be, but I don't see the benefit in it from town. In the opening post or anything dms I have received there is no mention of any Roshan. The only place I've seen it confirmed to exist is in Corrik's flip. Game is about hunting scum. It should not have any importance to us if someone is Roshan or Mafia if it's someone not on our side. This is not an important distinction to make for us and talk about has no use to us. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kirby321 09/13/22 9:42:20 AM #370: |
Wait what the fuck MZero's not a Cop? What's the point of Lea and I being Millers then? Wtf Okay well now I'm very convinced the only tracking role in this game is on the scum side. Decoy, Ninja Item Thief, and Ninja Watcher all screw with tracking/watching roles, and Ninja Watcher being an upgrade to a Vanilla would really only be useful with the Ninja modifier against a scum-sided tracking role. That is the only way I can see chang's upgrade making sense and also why Lea had a Ninja modifier. --- Kirby321 is 60% epicsauce, 40% epic failure Soo... how was your day? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ctesjbuvf 09/13/22 9:45:49 AM #371: |
Lack of cop is a bit weird, but helps explain why we're two-three millers if the whole purpose is to throw us off and it's not a nerf to any actual powers. Red hasn't done much useful at all, but he was probably right when his said mass claim in role madness is a bad idea, because people can't stop setup metaing despite the game being called role madness. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ctesjbuvf 09/13/22 9:47:37 AM #372: |
But what you're saying doesn't make sense Kirby. If you believe those are all there to screw with my tracking role that you believe is scum, then Lopen and I don't have contradicting claims. If you believe that I am indeed a watcher but simply scum, then you have a huge hole in your logic with the contradicting claims. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ctesjbuvf 09/13/22 9:50:16 AM #373: |
Like, you have to believe someone is lying. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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changmas 09/13/22 9:50:33 AM #374: |
Someone upgrades into a cop probably btw if Ctes is in fact town then sbell Kirby and MZero are all cleared from being scum (but not rosh). Any of them could easily have hammered already. Scum pool would be me, ulti, lopen, red --- The Artist Formerly Known as Hannyabal ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lopen 09/13/22 9:51:03 AM #375: |
So Mzero got 200 gold passive 100 gold from lynching hb The item he claims he bought cost 450g. Also based on the shop message I believe his item is no longer in the shop because he bought it. It's also probably the item I would have bought if I had his ability. I do believe he's telling the truth. It all tracks. And I don't think that would be Roshan's passive, so yeah throw Mzero in the town pile regardless of what Ulti and Ctes flip. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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changmas 09/13/22 9:51:30 AM #376: |
Clears poppy too i knew i was forgetting one player. --- The Artist Formerly Known as Hannyabal ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kirby321 09/13/22 9:52:27 AM #377: |
ctesjbuvf posted... But what you're saying doesn't make sense Kirby. If you believe those are all there to screw with my tracking role that you believe is scum, then Lopen and I don't have contradicting claims. If you believe that I am indeed a watcher but simply scum, then you have a huge hole in your logic with the contradicting claims. You and Lopen are definitely contradicting. You watched Lopen two nights in a row He said nobody visited him at all You are not a Ninja Therefore both of you cannot be telling the full truth. Anyway, I'm gonna be busy for the next couple of hours. Poppy, feel free to hammer. I think we've seen enough. I don't think Ctes is going to convince anyone by constantly berating us for setup metaing :P --- Kirby321 is 60% epicsauce, 40% epic failure Soo... how was your day? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ctesjbuvf 09/13/22 9:52:31 AM #378: |
Regardless of what I flip, you say? Is that you beginning to play like there's any way you can be town if if I die and flip town? --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ctesjbuvf 09/13/22 9:53:31 AM #379: |
Kirby321 posted... You and Lopen are definitely contradicting. Then why are you believing that my role is mafia aligned? In a world where Lopen is town and phychic and I am mafia and watcher, our claims would not contradict each other. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ctesjbuvf 09/13/22 9:56:32 AM #380: |
Kirby321 posted... I don't think Ctes is going to convince anyone by constantly berating us for setup metaing :P It's not only that. Not only is setup metaing not ideal in role madness, you're also doing a horrible job at it. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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changmas 09/13/22 9:56:53 AM #381: |
ctesjbuvf posted... Then why are you believing that my role is mafia aligned? In a world where Lopen is town and phychic and I am mafia and watcher, our claims would not contradict each other. you claiming scum watcher? i'll accept that --- The Artist Formerly Known as Hannyabal ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MZero 09/13/22 9:57:09 AM #382: |
If we're set on lynching ctes I would like to hammer to maximize my monies, considering I'm probably the only one with a shot at the high priced items --- MZero, to the extreme https://www.twitch.tv/kabazame ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lopen 09/13/22 9:57:09 AM #383: |
We should end the day so Ctes stops clogging the bandwidth. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ctesjbuvf 09/13/22 9:58:34 AM #384: |
changmas posted... you claiming scum watcher? i'll accept that Stop making yourself more stupid than you've already done today. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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changmas 09/13/22 9:58:44 AM #385: |
MZero posted... If we're set on lynching ctes I would like to hammer to maximize my monies, considering I'm probably the only one with a shot at the high priced items go for it --- The Artist Formerly Known as Hannyabal ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Obellisk 09/13/22 9:58:45 AM #386: |
Corrik was a bit of a cop. Possible he upgraded to someone who wouldn't die if he targeted scum and would learn of allignment? --- (\____/) ( SBell ) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lopen 09/13/22 9:59:02 AM #387: |
If I die please look at my lists after lynching ulti. Should be an easy win if we don't overthink. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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changmas 09/13/22 9:59:12 AM #388: |
ctesjbuvf posted... Stop making yourself more stupid than you've already done today. save the salt for isquen in discord --- The Artist Formerly Known as Hannyabal ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Obellisk 09/13/22 9:59:35 AM #389: |
I approve of mzero being the 4th vote to obtain the big big monies --- (\____/) ( SBell ) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Obellisk 09/13/22 10:00:48 AM #390: |
For the record I think I lynch Lopen first here but that's mostly based on deep rooted paranoia. --- (\____/) ( SBell ) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ctesjbuvf 09/13/22 10:02:18 AM #391: |
Obellisk posted... For the record I think I lynch Lopen first here but that's mostly based on deep rooted paranoia. If you're in doubt you lynch the weaker role for sure. Oh and they inconsistent player. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lopen 09/13/22 10:03:07 AM #392: |
You consistently have done nothing this game. I take inconsistency over that any day of the week. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lopen 09/13/22 10:04:10 AM #393: |
Also our roles both caught 1 scum each I'd call them equal --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ctesjbuvf 09/13/22 10:04:27 AM #394: |
Sure sure, hide behind your bus for not even trying the other days for as long as you can. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ctesjbuvf 09/13/22 10:05:42 AM #395: |
Lopen posted... Also our roles both caught 1 scum each I'd call them equal Your claimed role would literally have no use going forward now. Mine does. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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changmas 09/13/22 10:06:01 AM #396: |
look if you're town then it's just unlucky. you were put in a situation where i would legitimately never believe you and that's that. if isquen set it up that way on purpose then that's a problem you should have with him --- The Artist Formerly Known as Hannyabal ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ctesjbuvf 09/13/22 10:07:51 AM #397: |
changmas posted... look if you're town then it's just unlucky. you were put in a situation where i would legitimately never believe you and that's that. if isquen set it up that way on purpose then that's a problem you should have with him There are issues with the setup sure, but you've made some ridiculous statements today despite of that. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lopen 09/13/22 10:07:54 AM #398: |
Blame yourself or God as they say. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ctesjbuvf 09/13/22 10:09:44 AM #399: |
chang keeps sounded like he knows I'll flip town. My best guess for the other scum is him or MZero ftr, I promised to mention that. Also for the record I'm not as mad or angry as I probably sound. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ctesjbuvf 09/13/22 10:10:05 AM #400: |
*sounding --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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