Board 8 > Dota 2 Mafia 2 Topic 7 - Oh my God it's a BLACK HOOOOLE (of host humor)

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Isquen
09/12/22 3:28:09 PM
#1:


The Living
1 - changmas
2 - ctesjbuvf
3 - Kirby321
4 - Lopen
5 - MZero
6 - Obellisk
7 - PoppyTheNinja
8 - red13n
9 - UltimaterializerX

The Dead
1. [LD1] Sultan - MAFIA Elusive Roleblocker
2. [KN1] Corrik - TOWN Roshan Hater
3. [KN1] Lea - TOWN Miller Ninja Item Thief
4. [KD2] Death - TOWN Death Delayer
5. [LD2] Hb - MAFIA Role Thief
6. [KN2] Han - TOWN Vanilla

Current votals
[1] Red - Ulti, (Poppy)
[1] Lopen - Poppy
[1] Ulti - Lopen
[0] Poppy - (Kirby), (Lopen)
[0] Kirby - (Ctes)

With 9 alive, it requires 5 to lynch.

New shop inventory in approximately four and a half hours.
The day ends 24 hours after that, or earlier if a lynch occurs.

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Lopen
09/12/22 3:30:15 PM
#2:


Tell me, Ulti, who is the scum I'm protecting today by trying to lynch you.

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changmas
09/12/22 3:33:05 PM
#3:


##Vote: Red

address the hammerer allegations or die

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Lopen
09/12/22 3:33:39 PM
#5:


Oh you mean the guy I'm calling your scummate?

We can totally lynch Red.

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Kirby321
09/12/22 3:33:51 PM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
Welcome to why isos are idiotic compared to full rereads.

If I did a full reread, I'd be sloshing through five pages of Han telling Lopen to beg like a dog or whatever that nonsense was all about :P

That being said, you were on Hb's tail right from the get-go from Day 2. Though I see why Lopen is suspicious of you, because you were defending Hb as town up until Sultan's lynch. But your justification of Hb being scum was that he never voted for Sultan out of self-preservation, which is true, but that's also a conclusion that could've been made if you assumed Sultan was gonna flip scum at the end of D1. So that is a bit weird, but I also don't think it's that big of a deal.

That being said, it's odd that you keep saying Lopen was defending Hb, but you never actually called him out for it on Day 2 despite being totally sure that Hb was scum.

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Lopen
09/12/22 3:34:44 PM
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I want Red to claim today for sure.

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Leafeon13N
09/12/22 3:34:47 PM
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changmas posted...
##Vote: Red

address the hammerer allegations or die
Yes. Now can we stop being done now that I've stated what was already plainly obvious.
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Leafeon13N
09/12/22 3:35:09 PM
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Also done was dumb my phone sucks.
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Lopen
09/12/22 3:36:09 PM
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Leafeon13N posted...
Yes. Now can we stop being done now that I've stated what was already plainly obvious.

So you claim hammerer?

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Kirby321
09/12/22 3:37:39 PM
#13:


Well that was simple.

If Red is town-aligned... we've got some awfully anti-town roles in this game geez.

I default to town-aligned because Red probably wouldn't confess that easily if he were scum or third-party... right? Bleh, I hate WIFOM sometimes

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Kirby321
09/12/22 3:39:36 PM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
Day two was Friday + Saturday in real life, right?

I... think so? That sounds about right.

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Lopen
09/12/22 3:41:05 PM
#16:


Theory

Poppy + Ulti are scum and Hb got so annoyed because his teammates were bussing him hard into day 2 and his frustration with the game was real.

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Leafeon13N
09/12/22 3:41:19 PM
#17:


Ended saturday is right.
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ctesjbuvf
09/12/22 3:42:18 PM
#18:


Red being hammerer is more amusing than Death being Death Delayer.

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ctesjbuvf
09/12/22 3:42:47 PM
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And now we can drop stupid ideas about testing that role.

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Leafeon13N
09/12/22 3:43:33 PM
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ctesjbuvf posted...
Red being hammerer is more amusing than Death being Death Delayer.
I dont buy for a second that my role was randomized.
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changmas
09/12/22 3:43:35 PM
#21:


##Unvote

is your flavor Axe?

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Lopen
09/12/22 3:46:42 PM
#22:


I wonder if these roles weren't randomized at all

That would be an interesting twist

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Kirby321
09/12/22 3:47:22 PM
#23:


What does that say about me if the roles aren't randomized? :(
I'm kidding

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ctesjbuvf
09/12/22 3:47:23 PM
#24:


That would be fun but also something I absolutely don't want to meta.

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Lopen
09/12/22 3:51:30 PM
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1 - changmas -
2 - ctesjbuvf -
3 - Kirby321 - Illusion thing
4 - Lopen -
5 - MZero -
6 - Obellisk -
7 - PoppyTheNinja - Empowerer
8 - red13n - Give Me Hammer
9 - UltimaterializerX - Bodyguard

I think mass today is good tbh. Scum probably has enough info to pick off our power roles at the moment. We would rather information get out there than be lost. Maybe wait till after the shop reveal though I dunno.

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ctesjbuvf
09/12/22 3:53:12 PM
#28:


If I'm to same time mass with anyone today, it must be within the next ~2 hours, otherwise tomorrow. I'll rather sleep early today so I can perhaps stay up until deadline.

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changmas
09/12/22 3:53:21 PM
#29:


Im down whenever but SBell is delaying to prepare his fake claim :)

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Lopen
09/12/22 3:53:58 PM
#30:


Same time mass is fine

In fact I'm willing to let MZero not same time if Sbell agrees.

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Lopen
09/12/22 3:55:10 PM
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But I guess MZero being Rosh is vaguely possible. Maybe better to just let everyone be here.

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changmas
09/12/22 3:56:04 PM
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I dont think theres a time zone that works for everyone to be on at the same time

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ctesjbuvf
09/12/22 3:57:03 PM
#34:


I suppose it's hard unless MZero gets up semi early and I stay up semi late.

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Lopen
09/12/22 3:59:01 PM
#35:


If we leave someone out of the same time I'd prefer it to be MZero instead of anyone else.

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Obellisk
09/12/22 3:59:15 PM
#36:


changmas posted...
Im down whenever but SBell is delaying to prepare his fake claim :)


yeeeouch...

If its the will of this game to mass then of course I am down.

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Lopen
09/12/22 4:00:26 PM
#38:


I think we should claim our items too btw

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ctesjbuvf
09/12/22 4:00:48 PM
#39:


SBell, chang, Lopen and I can all do same time if we think that's useful.

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Leafeon13N
09/12/22 4:00:58 PM
#40:


I'm really not a fan of mass early, especially in role madness. People typically claim when they feel they have good reason to claim. Just increases the chance you draw up an outline for scum.
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Lopen
09/12/22 4:01:10 PM
#41:


So format should be this

Flavor Name
Role Name + Effect
Item (effect)

Any claimed night actions

We need to put all of this in our post.

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Obellisk
09/12/22 4:04:28 PM
#42:


Lopen posted...
So format should be this

Flavor Name
Role Name + Effect
Item (effect)

Any claimed night actions

We need to put all of this in our post.

Make sure you give SCUM all your information to make sure they can kill towns real good!


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ctesjbuvf
09/12/22 4:05:07 PM
#43:


I like this idea less with MZero I must admit.

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Obellisk
09/12/22 4:07:05 PM
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Lopen's attempt to lure ALL possible info out of claimants is troubling.

Especially after Han (vanilla) has been stunned and Night Killed.

Scum is 0/2 on lynches and fucked up a bunch of night actions.

Maybe this MASS is not the best play.

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Obellisk
09/12/22 4:08:05 PM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
Massive while ahead almost always wins games for town.


I've heard Town and Scum Ulti say that so its not that reassuring.

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Lopen
09/12/22 4:08:51 PM
#49:


I am only interested in this idea if we all reveal all information. If people are afraid of all information then I'm not interested and would rather just continue pursuing the Corrik thread.

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ctesjbuvf
09/12/22 4:09:44 PM
#50:


I remember Ulti wanting to mass to SW&P. Chris was the primary voice against it which helped him win the game in the end, ironically.

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