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BlackOmnimon 09/04/22 7:14:10 PM #1: |
The new Constitution would have enshrined rights for indigenous peoples, the state's obligation to provide basic services such as healthcare and education, and the nation's ownership over strategic resources such as water and lithium. It appears the rightist campaign equating the new Constitution with communism was succesful, and for now Chile will remain with the 1980 Constitution, drafted and approved during the rule of USA-backed military dictator Augusto Pinochet. Thoughts? --- Steam Deck Board https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1553-steam-deck ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gunplagirl 09/04/22 7:17:53 PM #2: |
For whatever reason, progressivism is losing leg and right as fascism (usually serving corporate interests) flourishes. --- tfw no big tiddy goth vampire gf who lactates blood - viewmaster_pi ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CommonStar 09/04/22 7:19:44 PM #3: |
That fucking sucks. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlackOmnimon 09/04/22 9:09:19 PM #4: |
burp --- Steam Deck Board https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1553-steam-deck ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ving_Rhames 09/04/22 9:21:01 PM #5: |
Humanities self sabotage continues on --- the real Irving Rameses http://i.imgur.com/A7f6F9h.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Paragon21XX 09/04/22 10:04:39 PM #6: |
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Kimbos_Egg 09/04/22 10:08:33 PM #7: |
gunplagirl posted... For whatever reason, progressivism is losing leg and right as fascism (usually serving corporate interests) flourishes. because most people seem to think theres only "one correct way" society should go, and all others are wrong, yet act surprised when someone else on the opposite side of the political spectrum does the same. --- You think you've Got problems? https://imgur.com/OnEOsdT ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solar_Crimson 09/04/22 10:23:08 PM #8: |
gunplagirl posted... For whatever reason, progressivism is losing leg and right as fascism (usually serving corporate interests) flourishes.Yeah, it's both sad and scary. --- "To Republicans, life begins at conception and ends in elementary school." - GranolaPanic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CARRRNE_ASADA 09/04/22 10:27:46 PM #9: |
Who rejected it? --- SEXY SEXY! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kimbos_Egg 09/04/22 10:30:42 PM #10: |
CARRRNE_ASADA posted... Who rejected it? 62% of the population. --- You think you've Got problems? https://imgur.com/OnEOsdT ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tote_All_ 09/05/22 8:02:21 AM #11: |
Paragon21XX posted... @Tote_All_ What speculation? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 09/05/22 8:05:29 AM #12: |
Solar_Crimson posted... Yeah, it's both sad and scary. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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xXfireglzXx 09/05/22 8:07:06 AM #13: |
Can you post the new proposed constitution? I want to read through it and can't find it except in PDF's. --- Official ANCIENT Killer. I make account bets from time to time so either man up or shut up. The Quote is dedicated to those we have lost. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeph 09/05/22 8:16:53 AM #14: |
xXfireglzXx posted... Can you post the new proposed constitution? I want to read through it and can't find it except in PDF's.here's a link to the proposal https://www.chileconvencion.cl/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/Texto-Definitivo-CPR-2022-Tapas.pdf Seems like it was expected since the general mood was that people weren't happy with what was being proposed when the first vote was done to see if it we change the constitution or not it had 7.573.914 votes, now this time there were 12.743.051 total votes --- https://i.imgur.com/gGHBH0F.jpg https://i.imgur.com/rNfCKIS.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Fj3wSVn.jpg https://i.imgur.com/OoMcG77.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VitoSpatafore 09/05/22 9:30:20 PM #15: |
Chile just joined my list of places I'd like to visit. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solar_Crimson 09/06/22 10:19:26 AM #16: |
VitoSpatafore posted... Chile just joined my list of places I'd like to visit.>Country denies basic rights to indigenous people Some chud on GameFAQs: "That sounds like a great place to visit!" --- "To Republicans, life begins at conception and ends in elementary school." - GranolaPanic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IMNOTRAGED 09/06/22 10:48:29 AM #18: |
That's too bad --- http://i.imgur.com/kkm3QaD.jpg "Be ruthless with systems; be kind to people." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cheater87 09/06/22 11:22:14 AM #19: |
Super lame. --- Doom, the game with unlimited ways to play. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YoungMutual 09/06/22 11:28:50 AM #20: |
I haven't read the chilean constitution, new or old, but indigenous peoples rights and access to water and litium as a constitutional right can still be added via an amendment to the current text. Some people were more worried about the lack of proper checks and balances to the different branches of the government, and those are what truly makes or break a democracy, and prevents it from becoming a dictatorship. So, if checks and balances are stronger in the current constitution, then that one is the superior one and the one that should remain. --- YoungMutual ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TotACon 09/06/22 11:29:04 AM #21: |
Solar_Crimson posted... >Country denies basic rights to indigenous people Which basic right was denied? [LFAQs-redacted-quote] I made a topic a week or two ago, not sure what you mean by "stupid reason". I ended up voting yes, but the reaction far leftists have had thus far have really been "mask off". Very disappointing, hopefully the next proposal is more centered and is less polarizing. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TotACon 09/06/22 11:51:36 AM #23: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] No tengo que postearte ninguna prueba asopao. Por lo dems es lgico que si veo "Chile" en CE voy a postear, dado que es un tema que yo mismo traigo a colacin. Payaso. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlackOmnimon 09/06/22 12:38:26 PM #24: |
TotACon posted... Which basic right was denied? There won't be a next proposal, "rechazo para reformar" was a rightist lie. --- Steam Deck Board https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1553-steam-deck ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 09/06/22 12:39:54 PM #25: |
Maybe if Venezuela wasn't a mess, this would have had a chance. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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miki_sauvester 09/06/22 12:40:05 PM #26: |
I mean, it was a borderline communist constitution, it never had a chance to begin with. The people who wrote it (mostly student activists) shot themselves in the foot by going too far, now they're likely going to be stuck with the old constitution indefinitely. Here's a good article about how bad the constitution was: https://www.economist.com/the-americas/2022/09/05/common-sense-triumphs-as-chileans-reject-a-new-constitution The convention was also beset by scandal. On the day it convened, members of the hard left shouted over an orchestra performing the national anthem. A few months later, another far-left member dropped out after it emerged he had lied about having cancer, which he had played on during his election campaign. Some members showed up in fancy dress; one voted from the shower and had to be asked to turn his camera off. People thought: if the artists are like this, the work will probably also have major flaws, says Cristin Valdivieso, the head of Criteria, a polling firm. That view was reinforced when the week before the plebiscite, at an event in favour of the new constitution in Valparaiso, Chiles second largest city, a drag queen had the national flag pulled out of his rectum while his bandmates encouraged the audience to abort Chile. The video appalled many Chileans. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Damn_Underscore 09/06/22 12:42:34 PM #27: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Is this serious? He doesnt agree with you so he must be lying about everything. Youre proving his point about extremists. --- She left me roses by the stairs. Surprises let me know she cares. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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puppy 09/06/22 12:44:02 PM #28: |
Questionmarktarius posted... Maybe if Venezuela wasn't a mess, this would have had a chance. Truth. You have to find a balance. You can't just expect a population to just give in to relinquishing all important aspects of a society to the government. Yes, people deserve housing, free schools, water, food, clothing, etc, but corruption still exists, and putting that all in the hand of the government can backfire. With the free market, people can at least say "Nah, I don't like that company" and look elsewhere. When its the government, you take it or leave it. --- You look under puppy's message. You find a potion! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 09/06/22 12:54:31 PM #29: |
puppy posted... When its the government, you take it or leave it.Or, what usually happens, you take it or you get shot. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ving_Rhames 09/06/22 1:19:45 PM #30: |
Damn_Underscore posted... Is this serious? He doesnt agree with you so he must be lying about everything. Youre proving his point about extremists. Not believing someone on the internet is so extreme. --- the real Irving Rameses http://i.imgur.com/A7f6F9h.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TotACon 09/06/22 6:04:18 PM #31: |
Damn_Underscore posted... Is this serious? He doesnt agree with you so he must be lying about everything. Youre proving his point about extremists. I just think it's insane to demand proof of something like he did. @ImAMarvel BlackOmnimon posted... There won't be a next proposal, "rechazo para reformar" was a rightist lie. This is why I voted to approve this one, I just hope we're wrong. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TotACon 09/06/22 6:06:50 PM #32: |
Also, today's performance on the government's side has been abysmal, as usual. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DrizztLink 09/06/22 8:02:46 PM #34: |
BlackOmnimon posted... It appears the rightist campaign equating the new Constitution with communism was succesful,Are there countries where the right wing isn't a collective pile of worthless regressive garbage? --- http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TotACon 09/06/22 9:44:34 PM #35: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] What would you do if I posted proof and made you look like a clown not only for being overly aggressive and demanding, but also wrong? [LFAQs-redacted-quote] Not really, why would you react so aggressively over nothing? I mean other people are calling you out on it. What reason would I have to lie? What a strange person. DrizztLink posted... Are there countries where the right wing isn't a collective pile of worthless regressive garbage? We have our own Republican party now! It's made of people who left the most regressive, conservative party (UDI) to straight up be US republicans! They got the first majority on the first round of presidential election too! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tote_All_ 09/06/22 9:51:40 PM #36: |
TotACon posted... We have our own Republican party now! It's made of people who left the most regressive, conservative party (UDI) to straight up be US republicans! They got the first majority on the first round of presidential election too! Just to expand on that, here's some highligts.
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DrizztLink 09/06/22 9:55:47 PM #37: |
You may have wanted me to but I very much regret doing it. Fucking hell. --- http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kimbos_Egg 09/06/22 11:37:55 PM #38: |
miki_sauvester posted... Chiles second largest city, a drag queen had the national flag pulled out of his rectum while his bandmates encouraged the audience to abort Chile. The video appalled many Chileans. .. People are so fucking stupid some times. --- You think you've Got problems? https://imgur.com/OnEOsdT ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kimbos_Egg 09/06/22 11:39:32 PM #39: |
What began as a laudable cry for change ended up a hope chest. Chile would not only become an officially plurinational state but also would maintain a separate indigenous justice system, the rules for which were left undefined. Chileans would have the right to wholesome and culturally relevant food, whatever that meant. wow its even dumber. --- You think you've Got problems? https://imgur.com/OnEOsdT ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tote_All_ 09/07/22 12:13:53 AM #40: |
Kimbos_Egg posted... wow its even dumber. It was very dumb on some aspects, downright dangerous in others, but it was also groundbreaking. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ubergeneral3 09/07/22 1:23:42 AM #41: |
chile was where the protests begin in 2019. It seemed like that was the year of change perhaps ever communist revolution. then covid hit. I guess nothing changes in the end. More protests? --- Guillotine/Gulag 2020. You didn't vote Bernie now pay the price. Eat the Rich ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TotACon 09/07/22 2:28:30 PM #42: |
Ubergeneral3 posted... chile was where the protests begin in 2019. It seemed like that was the year of change perhaps ever communist revolution. Wat ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TotACon 09/07/22 8:08:05 PM #43: |
TotACon posted... What would you do if I posted proof and made you look like a clown not only for being overly aggressive and demanding, but also wrong? @imamarvel Pls respond ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tote_All_ 09/07/22 11:25:39 PM #45: |
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TotACon 09/08/22 1:10:41 AM #47: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] But why would I? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tote_All_ 09/08/22 8:22:52 AM #49: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] But this is a doubt only you have thus far. So, I ask again, TotACon posted... What would you do if I posted proof and made you look like a clown not only for being overly aggressive and demanding, but also wrong? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlackOmnimon 09/08/22 11:48:56 AM #50: |
They released some studies and found out people rejected out of fear. The right literally made people believe the new constitution would:
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