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Onimusha
09/04/22 12:39:24 AM
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Humble_Novice posted...
What did she do to you personally?
She poisoned our water supply, burned our crops, and delivered a plague unto our houses!

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FortuneCookie
09/04/22 12:41:31 AM
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Oubliettes posted...
KF is a message board that started as a forum to discuss chris chan, and its original incarnation was the cwcki (cwc = christian weston chandler) forums. chris chan went quiet for a few years after chris's dad died, so members of the forum started threads on other internet weirdos. fast forward to today, and KF is now an all encompassing forum with thousands of threads on basically every kind of community or individual you can think of. its most famous for some of its highly notorious threads on transgender individuals lately, but iirc the largest demographic on the website is middle aged women and the most active subforum is the one focused on overweight female vloggers.

there's some absolutely vile shit on there, but tbh most of threads are functionally identical to this one:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/80057365

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Balnazarr
09/04/22 1:04:33 AM
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FortuneCookie posted...
Thanks.

Most the threads are absolutely not like CE. They talk about stuff, sure but, it's usually full of racism/transphobia and crying about wokeness.
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MushroomMuncher
09/04/22 1:10:49 AM
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Balnazarr posted...
They talk about stuff, sure but, it's usually full of racism/transphobia and crying about wokeness.
The former, yes, the latter, no. Everyone is a target on KF. They have a whole thread called "Trump Enslavement Syndrome" documenting people obsessed with Trump and has thousands of posts in that thread.

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Tyranthraxus
09/04/22 1:11:20 AM
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FortuneCookie posted...
Who were they?

I've never heard of them. From the name, I was assuming they were a brand of snack food or alcohol. From the responses in this topic, I'm guessing they either inspired bigotry? Antivax conspiracy theories? Both?

They're an online community of swatters and cyberbullies

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Hornswoggled
09/04/22 1:15:17 AM
#57:


MushroomMuncher posted...
The former, yes, the latter, no. Everyone is a target on KF. They have a whole thread called "Trump Enslavement Syndrome" documenting people obsessed with Trump and has thousands of posts in that thread.

The people on Kiwifarms have no loyalty to anybody. They may get a kick out of Trump because he makes the libs mad or something, but they are not beholden to him or anybody, and anybody can become a lolcow at a moments notice in their eyes.

James Rolfe, the AVGN, is considered a lolcow there now. Not for any political or ideological reasons, but just because his content kinda sucks now.
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Oubliettes
09/04/22 1:29:30 AM
#58:


MushroomMuncher posted...
The former, yes, the latter, no. Everyone is a target on KF. They have a whole thread called "Trump Enslavement Syndrome" documenting people obsessed with Trump and has thousands of posts in that thread.


yup. two of the most active boards are for shitting on ethan ralph, an ex gamergater turned alt right podcaster, and nick fuentes and his shitty alt right america first movement. the most active thread in january was for a manosphere grifter.

edit: and when i said most threads on KF were functionally identical to the DSP discussion thread on CE, what i meant was that theyre not sitting there organizing harassment campaigns and trying to dox every thread subject's third cousin's tax preparer, they're just gossipping and talking shit (like the CE thread)

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Ikzai
09/04/22 9:13:08 AM
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Kiwi Farms proves how easy it is to justify hate.

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DespondentDeity
09/04/22 9:17:47 AM
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Literally using the they make fun of everyone argument to defend people who express violent and genocidal ideation toward minorities.

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Drrobotniks
09/04/22 9:20:03 AM
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They're not going anywhere, they're already back
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SodomInsane
09/04/22 9:20:34 AM
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So why is there this controversy around KF for this to even be considered? Was it them posting mass shooting and death videos. Kind of like what liveleak did or something else happened?

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CommonStar
09/04/22 10:54:34 AM
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SodomInsane posted...
So why is there this controversy around KF for this to even be considered? Was it them posting mass shooting and death videos. Kind of like what liveleak did or something else happened?
They're physically stalking and harassing people with death threats
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Drrobotniks
09/04/22 11:03:14 AM
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CommonStar posted...
They're physically stalking and harassing people with death threats
Source? Last I check they dont condone that and they mock people who do
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myzz7
09/04/22 11:18:17 AM
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wait. kiwi farms is now considered "far right extreme"?
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lmao

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faizan_faizan
09/04/22 11:21:40 AM
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And nothing of value was lost

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angeleyes94
09/04/22 11:23:48 AM
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Now 4chan next stop the hate

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FaultyCircuitry
09/04/22 11:28:01 AM
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fucking pathetic that people are taking any stance other than "good" for them being shut down

its almost as if you support the attempts to kill trans people simply for existing, oh wait...

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SodomInsane
09/04/22 11:32:06 AM
#72:


CommonStar posted...
They're physically stalking and harassing people with death threats

Wow had no idea why not just ban the people who are making the death threats or stalking.

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Tyranthraxus
09/04/22 11:33:55 AM
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SodomInsane posted...
Wow had no idea why not just ban the people who are making the death threats or stalking.

The owner of the website endorses that stuff

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Drrobotniks
09/04/22 11:34:00 AM
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SodomInsane posted...
Wow had no idea why not just ban the people who are making the death threats or stalking.
Because no one is doing that, and the ones who "attempt" to, get banned, as what happened earlier

Tyranthraxus posted...
The owner of the website endorses that stuff
No he doesnt, he makes it a point to say he doesnt
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SodomInsane
09/04/22 11:34:33 AM
#75:


FaultyCircuitry posted...
fucking pathetic that people are taking any stance other than "good" for them being shut down

its almost as if you support the attempts to kill trans people simply for existing, oh wait...

Just because one group on a site makes horrible comments that doesnt mean the entire site should be shut down. Last month a gamefaqs user got purgatory calling for a trans genocide on CE. That shouldnt have led to all of gamefaqs being shut down for what one or a group of users said or are doing.

Or even the people who livestream mass shootings on twitch. Twitch shouldnt be shut down over it punish the users who break the sites rules.

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FaultyCircuitry
09/04/22 11:39:28 AM
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SodomInsane posted...
Just because one group on a site makes horrible comments that doesnt mean the entire site should be shut down. Last month a gamefaqs user got purgatory calling for a trans genocide on CE. That shouldnt have led to all of gamefaqs being shut down for what one or a group of users said or are doing.

Or even the people who livestream mass shootings on twitch. Twitch shouldnt be shut down over it punish the users who break the sites rules.

the difference is that gamefaqs and twitch does something when people do that kind of shit (admittedly purgatory for calling for trans genocide should immediately result in a full usermap axe, so inadequate response)

kiwifarms does nothing to prevent any of the harassment campaigns, nothing to stop the death threats, nothing at all. the site is complicit in its inaction.

stop trying to justify the attempted murder of a trans woman and the myriad other harassment and death campaigns that originate there

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Drrobotniks
09/04/22 11:52:39 AM
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pretty sure mods/admins delete and mock users who condone violence, I'd say thats doing something about it
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Drrobotniks
09/04/22 11:58:49 AM
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What organized attacks? I heard about that one user threatening her with bombs, but he was banned and laughed at, dunno what happened after that
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CommonStar
09/04/22 12:16:57 PM
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Interesting
https://twitter.com/keffals/status/1566335693663731712
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Drrobotniks
09/04/22 12:21:29 PM
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They dont condone or endorse any swatting, or doing anything with malicious intent, the people who attempt to do that are mocked, and punished by the mods or whoever does that

I'm not defending them or attempting to say they're a good site, i personally would never post there or recommend other people do so, but people are saying that as a whole they stalk and do crimes and stuff, when really it's some of the users, and the users who actually do that get banned or punished once the others find out they actually did that
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DarkRoast
09/04/22 12:24:12 PM
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Drrobotniks posted...
They dont condone or endorse any swatting, or doing anything with malicious intent, the people who attempt to do that are mocked, and punished by the mods or whoever does that

I'm not defending them or attempting to say they're a good site, i personally would never post there or recommend other people do so, but people are saying that as a whole they stalk and do crimes and stuff, when really it's some of the users, and the users who actually do that get banned or punished once the others find out they actually did that

Kiwi farms is kind of like dowsing a house with gasoline, giving a toddler a match, but then saying you don't condone arson.

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Drrobotniks
09/04/22 12:27:09 PM
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That *is* pretty bad though
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ssj3vegeta
09/04/22 12:33:04 PM
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https://imgur.com/gallery/5yYu3wg

i had no idea what kiwifarms was until i saw dis a few minutes ago, wtf? and dere's no solution either?

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Balnazarr
09/04/22 12:39:00 PM
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SodomInsane posted...
Just because one group on a site makes horrible comments that doesnt mean the entire site should be shut down. Last month a gamefaqs user got purgatory calling for a trans genocide on CE. That shouldnt have led to all of gamefaqs being shut down for what one or a group of users said or are doing.

Or even the people who livestream mass shootings on twitch. Twitch shouldnt be shut down over it punish the users who break the sites rules.

You're an idiot. I frequently lurked the farms. The place was overrun with racists and transphobes. Many would argue they're not racist for using racial slurs. it's just a joke! Racism is funny! It was actively encouraged.

Drrobotniks posted...
They're not going anywhere, they're already back

You have to jump through hoops to get on there.

Oubliettes posted...
yup. two of the most active boards are for shitting on ethan ralph, an ex gamergater turned alt right podcaster, and nick fuentes and his shitty alt right america first movement. the most active thread in january was for a manosphere grifter.

edit: and when i said most threads on KF were functionally identical to the DSP discussion thread on CE, what i meant was that theyre not sitting there organizing harassment campaigns and trying to dox every thread subject's third cousin's tax preparer, they're just gossipping and talking shit (like the CE thread)

You have no idea what you're talking about. I frequently lurked that forum. I've done it for years. So what? They mocked alt-right loons too. Doesn't make them left leaning. They weren't cross burning neo-nazis but, they did allow those types on there. They had limits like no child porn. But, they were absolutely racist and most were sympathetic to racists being "discriminated". The majority of that forum were viciously against any non-white non-straight character in any media.

The only reason they took a stance on harassing was it was getting them too much heat. They still frequently doxxed people and it was actively encouraged.

The site was not a liberal haven. it was absolutely right wing. Maybe not for Trump but, they weren't fans of Biden or any democrat or anyone left.
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FortuneCookie
09/04/22 12:59:29 PM
#92:


Balnazarr posted...
Most the threads are absolutely not like CE. They talk about stuff, sure but, it's usually full of racism/transphobia and crying about wokeness.

I can imagine.
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Oubliettes
09/04/22 1:03:00 PM
#93:


Balnazarr posted...


You have no idea what you're talking about. I frequently lurked that forum. I've done it for years. So what? They mocked alt-right loons too. Doesn't make them left leaning.


who said it was? i'm literally browsing the DSP thread right now, it is literally nothing but them making fun of DSP for being a dumbass and bad at video games
lurk more

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Tyranthraxus
09/04/22 1:11:04 PM
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Saying Kiwi Farms isn't far right because they mocked right wing people is like saying Voat wasn't far right because they mocked people who tried to come from r/the_Donald

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MushroomMuncher
09/04/22 1:41:31 PM
#95:


Balnazarr posted...
You're an idiot. I frequently lurked the farms. The place was overrun with racists and transphobes. Many would argue they're not racist for using racial slurs. it's just a joke! Racism is funny! It was actively encouraged.
KiwiFarms was "racist" in the sense you were not banned for saying slurs. You could call people the n word and people a bundle of sticks as much as you wanted and not get banned.

This allowed the users to say it as much as they want. But in doing so, they spouted them so much, they lost all racial or homophobic connections because they called anything they didn't like those slurs. You can look in a thread about the whitest people you will ever see and see the n word and shit all the time directed towards them. It stopped being about spouting these slurs because they don't like this race/sexuality and moreso saying it for the sake of saying it, because they can. Edgy for the sake of being edgy.

Tyranthraxus posted...
Saying Kiwi Farms isn't far right because they mocked right wing people is like saying Voat wasn't far right because they mocked people who tried to come from r/the_Donald
Did you know that a good majority of KiwiFarms is Pro-Choice, how right-wing is that
Are you just spouting buzzwords for the sake of shoving your politics in everything again

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Ikzai
09/04/22 1:41:43 PM
#96:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Saying Kiwi Farms isn't far right because they mocked right wing people is like saying Voat wasn't far right because they mocked people who tried to come from r/the_Donald

they've got to cling to something to defend their hate website.

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lennethsoki
09/04/22 2:59:47 PM
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I don't believe anything Keffals says or presents after all the stuff they got caught lying about.

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Doe
09/04/22 3:06:11 PM
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The one threat post was pretty suspect. It was a post suddenly made by an account which had been inactive for two years.


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coolguyjimmy
09/04/22 3:08:20 PM
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I can't believe New Zealand has allowed such a website, I thought they were pretty liberal with their taking down of websites.
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BlockAddition
09/04/22 3:14:00 PM
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Doe posted...
The one threat post was pretty suspect. It was a post suddenly made by an account which had been inactive for two years.
Shhh bringing this up goes against the narrative 'round these parts

KF is gone for good alright

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