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I'd certainly be interested in hearing whatever vocalist you think can top Ramos. Acceptable answers include Ben Duerr.

VirtuousWrath posted...

I'd certainly be interested in hearing whatever vocalist you think can top Ramos. Acceptable answers include Ben Duerr.

Dan Watson is murdering the game right now, and dickie has slightly better gutturals still

/opinion

chuck motherfucking BILLY

I'm guessing a draw of what makes Ramos so revered is he seems to have range others don't with harsh vocals.

In that case, Matt Chalk formerly of Psycroptic should be someone that will be appreciated.

https://youtu.be/IhBuCy1PAGk

I will say that perhaps my general dislike of deathcore might color my perception of Ramos negatively somewhat. I don't think he's bad at all though.

Mentioned earlier that my favorites are Daniel Corchado of The Chasm and Tomas Lindberg of At the Gates (specifically pre-Terminal Spirit Disease anyways.)

Also really fucking love Alexander Nordgaren's performance on Fleurrty's A Darker Shade of Evil.

https://youtu.be/XmvPnOKL-Ok

He absolutely wrecked his vocal chords with this though.

I wish I had more deathcore homies here, we are few and far between.

I enjoy all metal and have all my life, but deathcore and Texas slam shows are just a VIBE

Despised posted...

I wish I had more deathcore homies here, we are few and far between.

I enjoy all metal and have all my life, but deathcore and Texas slam shows are just a VIBE

i've tried man. it's the only metal subgenre that i can think of off top that i haven't gotten anything from.

pauIie posted...

i've tried man. it's the only metal subgenre that i can think of off top that i haven't gotten anything from.

And I completely get it, theres a lot of bad deathcore that all sounds the same, and the good is still very subjective

I mean, Lorna Shore has really boring songwriting but Ramos' range and power is impressive and the fact that he can also do it all live as well.

Tbh, most death metal has very boring, monotone vocals. Deathcore and slam is where all the interesting vocal techniques are.

The guy from Vulvodynia, for example, has a pretty good range and uses a nice mixture of techniques.

Like this Psycroptic song isn't necessarily the best example because it's mixing is muddied and you can't really hear anything clean.

pauIie posted...

i've tried man. it's the only metal subgenre that i can think of off top that i haven't gotten anything from.

It feels so weirdly disconnected from the rest of metal, too

like most people Ive met who are deathcore guys literally only listen to deathcore

I also don't think interesting/varied technique really means much to me. Martin Van Drunen of Asphyx/Pestilence/Hail of Bullets basically does one thing and does that one thing really fucking well.

https://youtu.be/_989cFyAiAw

I think generally it's the same thing behind why I don't really care for technical or progressive focused bands. Like yeah, you can play complicated stuff but it's not doing anything for me.

FaultyCircuitry posted...

I also don't think interesting/varied technique really means much to me. Martin Van Drunen of Asphyx/Pestilence/Hail of Bullets basically does one thing and does that one thing really fucking well.

https://youtu.be/_989cFyAiAw

I think generally it's the same thing behind why I don't really care for technical or progressive focused bands. Like yeah, you can play complicated stuff but it's not doing anything for me.

i deleted my list, but mvd was on it. something about him. love it.

Sayoria posted...

Sharon Den Adel.

I love Sharon, looking forward to Within Temptation's next album.

Some other favorite of mine I don't think I've seen mentioned in this topic are Brittney Slayes, Amanda Somerville, Michael Kiske, and Tommy Karevik.

FaultyCircuitry posted...

I know one song isn't going to say everything about a vocalist, but listened to one song from Lorna Shore just now and uh? He was fine, but what?

Yeah Ive only heard one song as well. Anyone have any specific recommendations?

Don't listen to the Deathcore kids, Will Ramos and Lorna Shore isn't doing something that hasn't been done already. They're not reinventing the wheel. They just got really famous off one Tik Tok so there's more people seeing them than say Travis Ryan of Cattle Decapitation.

TendoDRM posted...

I love Sharon, looking forward to Within Temptation's next album.

She's too good. So much range. Experimental styles and everything. Love her.

Look at this video of Alex Terrible just raw dogging it for a second.

https://youtu.be/fCBGdFWP0sQ

Fucking pipes.

Flockaveli posted...

Don't listen to the Deathcore kids, Will Ramos and Lorna Shore isn't doing something that hasn't been done already. They're not reinventing the wheel. They just got really famous off one Tik Tok so there's more people seeing them than say Travis Ryan of Cattle Decapitation.

Its the year 2022 and people are still gatekeeping Deathcore. Its well beyond embarrassing at this point.

Kurt_Russel posted...

Yeah Ive only heard one song as well. Anyone have any specific recommendations?

To the hellfire

electricbugs2 posted...

Its the year 2022 and people are still gatekeeping Deathcore. Its well beyond embarrassing at this point.

Listen, kid, I listen to plenty of Deathcore. Been listening to it half my life. I am not shitting on Deathcore.

Man, speaking of listening to Deathcore for almost 15 years.

I Declare Goddess
https://youtu.be/ttn1otpx7zA

Who remembers this fucking classic.

Flockaveli posted...

Listen, kid, I listen to plenty of Deathcore. Been listening to it half my life. I am not shitting on Deathcore.

Fair enough. Just misinterpreted I guess because of the Deathcore kid thing.

electricbugs2 posted...

Fair enough. Just misinterpreted I guess because of the Deathcore kid thing.

I feel like every genre just attaches the "kid" suffex to everything. Like, if you hear anyone talk about When We Were Young Fest, they're going to say "This is for all the emo kids" meanwhile the average age of the concert goer is going to be near 30.

James Hetfield is my favourite full package metal frontman. Killer guitar and vocal style.

Vocals only? It's James Hetfield, Rob Halford or Bruce Dickinson.

Danny Worsnop at the Mitch Lucker Memorial, just being an absolute unreal Deathcore vocalist

https://youtu.be/BM8tf9DPT4U

Shotgunnova posted...

Mike Patton

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Great picks.

also Corpsegrinder

edit: Angela Gossow for woman vocalist.

Flockaveli posted...

Danny Worsnop at the Mitch Lucker Memorial, just being an absolute unreal Deathcore vocalist

https://youtu.be/BM8tf9DPT4U

Love Danny, but he would be so much bigger if he hadn't spent half his career pinned out, or trying to be a country singer.

electricbugs2 posted...

Love Danny, but he would be so much bigger if he hadn't spent half his career pinned out, or trying to be a country singer.

I agree, but then I remember he blessed us with Stand Up and Scream so he has the right to do whatever he wants

Cattle Decap is good too.

The guy from Worm Shepherd is pretty good too.

Oh man, I used to really like the vocalist from Mental Cruelty as well.

Aegaeon - "Dimensions of Reality"
https://youtu.be/5vvLcmJVVSM

I feel like this isn't even a growl, just a super-low Hardcore yell. So much beef and strength behind it.

https://youtu.be/D6exw6xT0oo

Flockaveli posted...

Don't listen to the Deathcore kids, Will Ramos and Lorna Shore isn't doing something that hasn't been done already. They're not reinventing the wheel. They just got really famous off one Tik Tok so there's more people seeing them than say Travis Ryan of Cattle Decapitation.

I genuinely tried to give Lorna Shore a shot because I listen to a huge variety of music and try to stay agnostic when it comes to genre and how mainstream something is

but I found it really off putting in a way I cant quite articulate. Like on a surface level its heavy, with the vocals and the blast beats and all, but at the same time its so cookie cutter and the riffs are obviously written with a radio/mainstream audience in mind.

and I like plenty of radio metal like Lamb of God, Mastodon, Gojira, Avenged Sevenfold but something about the way Lorna Shore presents themselves as this super heavy/hardcore band with fans who hype up how brutal and unique this is (in the YouTube comments) while actually just playing pretty typical radio-courting deathcore just rubs me the wrong way

idk man maybe its elitism but, its definitely not for me

sidenote Cattle Decapitation fuckin rules, but also theyre not deathcore so idk what that has to do with anything

King Conquer - "Extinguisher"
https://youtu.be/aP1XIMdoqzs

To this day I'm still not exactly sure what he's doing for those lows. Sounds like he stuffs his mouth with cotton balls.

TheGoldenEel posted...

typical radio-courting deathcore

Outside of that one metal channel on Sirius, and college radio stations, what radio stations are playing deathcore lol? Not even trying to be a dick, I'm legit curious, because I've straight up never heard a deathcore band on even the heaviest of rock stations (Usually the heaviest they go is something like Rise Against, or BfmV).

Lorna Shore's songs are all just very formulaic. The guitarist only knows like five notes and his riffs are composed of him just jumping back and forth between all of them, drummer is always blasting away at 300+ BPM, the vocalist always has something to growl 1 minute and 20 seconds into the song, right before the music cuts off and into a breakdown. Then a bigger breakdown at the end of the song. You hear one song, you don't need to hear any other ones cause they're the exact same.

Also I just threw CD in there as an example of vocalists who've been doing absolutely wild shit for decades but get no recognition, not because I think they're Deathcore. I know they're not Deathcore.

electricbugs2 posted...

Outside of that one metal channel on Sirius, and college radio stations, what radio stations are playing deathcore lol? Not even trying to be a dick, I'm legit curious, because I've straight up never heard a deathcore band on even the heaviest of rock stations (Usually the heaviest they go is something like Rise Against, or BfmV).

They get some play on my local rock/metal station

also I dont think actual radio is really relevant anymore so I meant radio-courting less as specifically meaning radio and more just a generally mass-appeal sound (as mass appeal as something with harsh vocals can be)

Flockaveli posted...

Lorna Shore's songs are all just very formulaic. The guitarist only knows like five notes and his riffs are composed of him just jumping back and forth between all of them, drummer is always blasting away at 300+ BPM, the vocalist always has something to growl 1 minute and 20 seconds into the song, right before the music cuts off and into a breakdown. Then a bigger breakdown at the end of the song. You hear one song, you don't need to hear any other ones cause they're the exact same.

this was the impression I got from the 3 songs I checked out

TheGoldenEel posted...

They get some play on my local rock/metal station

also I dont think actual radio is really relevant anymore so I meant radio-courting less as specifically meaning radio and more just a generally mass-appeal sound (as mass appeal as something with harsh vocals can be)

Ah fair enough.

Don't know if I'd consider Lorna Shore to have mass appeal though, Chelsea Grin fits that mold more IMO. Lorna was pretty underground until they became a viral trend because of Will's vocals.

TheGoldenEel posted...

this was the impression I got from the 3 songs I checked out

My friend and I have this joke, we say that if you open up Pro Tools and stack all 3 Lorna Shore tracks from their last EP together on top of each other, it's going to sound like one complete, clean song.

Same friend and I saw Lorna Shore last week at Lollapalooza. Again, I am not a Deathcore hater, I listen to it frequently, but that shouldn't mean I am not allowed to shit on it.

Yeah, Lorna Shore is kinda boring but Will is an absolute beast of a vocalist. Hopefully he joins a better band at some point in the future.

VirtuousWrath posted...

Yeah, Lorna Shore is kinda boring but Will is an absolute beast of a vocalist. Hopefully he joins a better band at some point in the future.

Lorna has always pretty much been a band for fans of vocals. CJ was a beast as well, he's just a piece of shit which is where Will came in.

VirtuousWrath posted...

Cattle Decap is good too.

The guy from Worm Shepherd is pretty good too.

Oh man, I used to really like the vocalist from Mental Cruelty as well.

Worm Shepherd is like, Lorna Shore if they weren't One Trick Ponies. Now THAT'S a good Deathcore band.

Flockaveli posted...

Danny Worsnop at the Mitch Lucker Memorial, just being an absolute unreal Deathcore vocalist

didnt he dip out and return to asking Alexandria?

Kurt_Russel posted...

didnt he dip out and return to asking Alexandria?

I never knew he left AA I just thought they were on hiatus for years while he tried to find success making Country music.

Flockaveli posted...

I never knew he left AA I just thought they were on hiatus for years while he tried to find success making Country music.

Nah when he was in rehab him and Ben had a falling out, so Dennis from Make Me Famous was their vocalist for a bit. Then Dennis fucked them over (Like he does to every band he's in) so once Danny was clean he rejoined them. Modern AA is too radio rock for my taste, but I love to see the man back on his feet.

tommybel89 posted...

James Hetfield is my favourite full package metal frontman. Killer guitar and vocal style.

Vocals only? It's James Hetfield, Rob Halford or Bruce Dickinson.

Along with these I'll also add Chuck Schuldiner, King Diamond, Mike Patton and Maynard James Keenan. If they continue their trajectory, I gotta add Courtney Laplante from Spiritbox.

Kurt_Russel posted...

Hes a great vocalist to be sure. Is he metal enough tho?

In the sense that sabbath is metal

sinners_demise posted...

Joe Bad - Fit for an Autopsy

Came into this topic to see if anybody said this
good answer

MrResetti posted...

In the sense that sabbath is metal

Yeah, but sabbath has that classic metal feel.

electricbugs2 posted...

Nah when he was in rehab him and Ben had a falling out, so Dennis from Make Me Famous was their vocalist for a bit. Then Dennis fucked them over (Like he does to every band he's in) so once Danny was clean he rejoined them. Modern AA is too radio rock for my taste, but I love to see the man back on his feet.

Oh wow so I had to Google this, Denis Stoff is his name, he was in the band for almost two years and they have one album together. That's completely news to me. I thought it would be like a Jerry Roush/OM&M situation where they just toured for a couple months before bringing back the old vocalist. But a whole album together? Yeah I haven't paid attention to AA since I was like 14, in my mind they have one great album then they fiddled around with trying to be Radio Rock for a decade and somewhere in between Danny became a cowboy. They're all probably alcoholics still. I remember seeing them live before the release of R&R and they were wasted, probably the worst set I've ever seen. Stopped following them since then and went from being an entry-level Metalcore/Post-Hardcore/Deathcore kid to like Technical Death Metal and Slam guy.

MrResetti posted...

In the sense that sabbath is metal

tbh this is clearly metal and it doesnt change much about the original

https://youtu.be/o6eBy9o-x4A