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FighterStreet6
07/30/22 3:33:17 PM
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they are lumped together now from a modern diagnostic perspective, largely because of complicated political reasons (Asperger's was underfunded, but autism was not in relation). the differences between the two groups still exist (one with high spatial skills, the other with high verbal skills)

from a treatment perspective they are not the same at all
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Alteres
07/30/22 3:44:21 PM
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FighterStreet6 posted...
they are lumped together now from a modern diagnostic perspective, largely because of complicated political reasons (Asperger's was underfunded, but autism was not in relation). the differences between the two groups still exist (one with high spatial skills, the other with high verbal skills)

from a treatment perspective they are not the same at all
Oh that sounds fucking brilliant, now we are going to have assholes everywhere correcting people about the proper usage and status.

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COVxy
07/30/22 3:45:18 PM
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Anyone who has led you to believe that people with autism typically have higher IQ has led you in the wrong direction. High functioning is in relation to the clinical population, not average population.

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FighterStreet6
07/30/22 3:50:54 PM
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COVxy posted...
Anyone who has led you to believe that people with autism typically have higher IQ has led you in the wrong direction. High functioning is in relation to the clinical population, not average population.
actually autism tends to have lower fullstack IQ, while aspergers has not been associated with lower IQs (but is associated with polar IQ spread)
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PerseusRad
07/30/22 3:52:59 PM
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Never taken a real IQ test. When I was young I took some online ones, they didnt seem particularly valid but Im not sure how an actual test is performed.

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ElGatoBravo
07/30/22 5:10:08 PM
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FighterStreet6 posted...
Completely inaccurate statement. IQs are extremely accurate predictors of success in society, especially with regards to capability in high science fields. They are also highly accurate on retests.

That is absolutely not true. What you meant to say is ''intelligence is a high predicator of success'', with the IQ test itself being one of many ways to test the intelligence of a human being. The IQ test cannot gauge your adaptability, your creativity nor your social intelligence, which arer absolutely crucial to network and navigate the work field. And finally, your dedication and resilience are the ultimate determining factors of how well you'll do in your field.

It's a combination of all those factors that determine your success in life. Kids are out there, deluding themselves they have already won because they pride themselves on the test they took. Lol.
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Bishop_Hastur
07/30/22 5:15:20 PM
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No clue, and to the best of my memory I've never taken a test to find out.

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FighterStreet6
07/30/22 5:16:08 PM
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ElGatoBravo posted...
That is absolutely not true. What you meant to say is ''intelligence is a high predicator of success'', with the IQ test itself being one of many ways to test the intelligence of a human being. The IQ test cannot gauge your adaptability, your creativity nor your social intelligence, which arer absolutely crucial to network and navigate the work field. And finally, your dedication and resilience are the ultimate determining factors of how well you'll do in your field.

It's a combination of all those factors that determine your success in life. Kids are out there, deluding themselves they have already won because they pride themselves on the test they took. Lol.
Nothing can test for "adaptability" and "creativity" lmao

Dedication and resilience are completely unrelated to this topic. And as someone who has been homeless, but is now generally successful, LUCK and wealth (and associated momentum) are also the primary determinant on outcomes. Most med students I know have not
  1. Suffered from bipolar
  2. lost both their parents
  3. struggled with alcohol addiction
etc. Resilience is overrated. Luck is what really counts. If you are in your mid 20s, have a college degree, and havent gone through something traumatic you have a reasonable shot at achieving your dreams.
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furb
07/30/22 5:17:20 PM
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My parents never told me. I am almost forty and I still don't know.

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07/30/22 5:22:07 PM
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For all the geniuses here, how does one prove that there is no positive integer n such that n!+1 is divisible by n+3 ?

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COVxy
07/30/22 5:22:30 PM
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IQ only predicts success because it was constructed to predict educational achievement, and educational achievement is correlated with socioeconomic status. Control for that and pretty much nothing is predicted by IQ.

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FighterStreet6
07/30/22 5:24:03 PM
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COVxy posted...
IQ only predicts success because it was constructed to predict educational achievement, and educational achievement is correlated with socioeconomic status. Control for that and pretty much nothing is predicted by IQ.
You have literally no idea what you are talking about. The primary function of IQ tests are to identify learning disabilities
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COVxy
07/30/22 5:28:03 PM
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FighterStreet6 posted...
You have literally no idea what you are talking about. The primary function of IQ tests are to identify learning disabilities

It was constructed to predict educational achievement to identify students that would need additional help (i can't remember, there might have been an initial military interest that drove early research, but doesn't really matter for the core point).

This was done using a statistical method called factor analysis. More or less, it was found that you could reasonably predict global school performance using a single factor which all grades loaded onto, this was called the g-factor.

Then IQ tests were constructed to correlate with this g-factor.

IQ tests are heavily confounded by socioeconomic factors, and once those are accounted for, predicting later success becomes close nill.

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FighterStreet6
07/30/22 5:39:20 PM
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COVxy posted...
It was constructed to predict educational achievement to identify students that would need additional help.

This was done using a statistical method called factor analysis. More or less, it was found that you could reasonably predict global school performance using a single factor which all grades loaded onto, this was called the g-factor.

Then IQ tests were constructed to correlate with this g-factor.

IQ tests are heavily confounded by socioeconomic factors, and once those are accounted for, predicting later success becomes close nill.
There is substantial evidence to show IQ tests have strong genetic components, and are just not socioeconomic.

here is just one study that analyzed a large volume of data

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31378724/

i would suggest you search for yourself on pub med.

This conversation is not the purpose of this topic, at all, and im not going to respond further about what causes IQ. IQ tests are used among clinical psychologists for treatment. Even if it was entirely due to socioeconomic factors (This doenst make any sense, how could Autism be caused entirely by environmental factors lmao?) it still would irrelevant to the conversation.

IQ pushback is common due to the unpleasant association of intelligence with immutable factors such as genetics . These concepts are challenging for many people to accept, especially when racism has become more apparent in the western world.

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UnholyMudcrab
07/30/22 5:42:12 PM
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6000, give or take

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Umbreon
07/30/22 5:42:50 PM
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I have no idea, and I frankly don't care.

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COVxy
07/30/22 5:44:47 PM
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Just to be clear, the study you linked, which to be fair I haven't read, has a correlation between the polygenic score and IQ of 0.3. What this means is that measured genetic factors here account for less than 10% of the variation in IQ. Heritability estimates usually fall around 50% for IQ, but heritability estimates are complicated and directly linking it to "proportion of variance due to genetics" is a bit hairy.

Neurological and developmental disorders, of course, impact IQ. But the reasons a neurological condition impacts IQ can be very different from the reason a successful healthy individual has a high IQ.

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MrAndersonWb
07/30/22 5:48:09 PM
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where can I access this test @gladius_ ?
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Pogo_Marimo
07/30/22 5:51:45 PM
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The last one I did was just short of 130 but it was only a logical/pattern recognition test. I think there are more robust ones that factor in things like language skills or some such idk. Frankly I suspect my language and other "adjacent" reasoning skills are probably better than my purely logical reasoning but that is obviously unsubstantiated

I probably have some Asberger traits (Sound stuff, fixation, attention, ect.) but I've never bothered to get tested and I'm skeptical I would get an actual diagnosis on the spectrum.

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ChaoticKnuckles
07/30/22 6:07:29 PM
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No idea, never been tested.

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Shadowplay
07/30/22 6:10:00 PM
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Bad decisions are committed by people of varying levels of cognitive ability. Think about the fact that you are a lawyer and that there are people your age that made decisions so bad that they are in prison.

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SSMajinVegeta2
07/30/22 7:22:07 PM
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Whats a good IQ test to take so see officially how dumb I am?

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haloiscoolisbak
07/30/22 7:30:43 PM
#76:


Slayerblade11 posted...
I took one a couple years back and got an 82. Below average. Kinda feels limiting at times knowing i'm dumb, but what can you do. Apparently my math skills, problem solving and memory, are average to high average but my language, verbal and general knowledge are very low and dragged down my score.

So a friend told me once they had something similar happen. Except they scored exceptionally low on the memory/speed and exceptionally high with verbal reasoning and abstract thinking

They said their was such a crazy discrepancy they couldn't be given an IQ. I wonder if they actually got around your score, some kind of evened out average and were embarrassed to say so

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ElGatoBravo
07/30/22 7:41:48 PM
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FighterStreet6 posted...
Nothing can test for "adaptability" and "creativity" lmao

Dedication and resilience are completely unrelated to this topic. And as someone who has been homeless, but is now generally successful, LUCK and wealth (and associated momentum) are also the primary determinant on outcomes. Most med students I know have not
1. Suffered from bipolar
2. lost both their parents
3. struggled with alcohol addiction
etc. Resilience is overrated. Luck is what really counts. If you are in your mid 20s, have a college degree, and havent gone through something traumatic you have a reasonable shot at achieving your dreams.

I would highly suggest you read Angela Duckworth's book called ''Grit: the power of Passion and Perseverence'' which delves into that exact topic with science to back it up. After studying countless cases of high achievers in a wide variety of domains, it was revealed that consistant effort and a solid mindframe are the ultimate factors determining your achievements in life. The higher IQ difference only comes in your favor in the context of the highest competition (in boxing, that would be like being of same skills and weight class but you being taller than your opponent) but in the context of applied intelligence for moderate to high success, resilience is the absolute king.

There are so many factors that determine how well you'd do in life, reducing it to a IQ test is the biggest misunderstanding of how intelligence works and an overly simplistic view of how the workforce actually works. There are sooooo many soft and hard skills that come into play, you cannot seriously make the argument that an IQ test will cover all of it.
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FighterStreet6
07/30/22 11:18:39 PM
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ElGatoBravo posted...
I would highly suggest you read Angela Duckworth's book called ''Grit: the power of Passion and Perseverence'' which delves into that exact topic with science to back it up. After studying countless cases of high achievers in a wide variety of domains, it was revealed that consistant effort and a solid mindframe are the ultimate factors determining your achievements in life. The higher IQ difference only comes in your favor in the context of the highest competition (in boxing, that would be like being of same skills and weight class but you being taller than your opponent) but in the context of applied intelligence for moderate to high success, resilience is the absolute king.

There are so many factors that determine how well you'd do in life, reducing it to a IQ test is the biggest misunderstanding of how intelligence works and an overly simplistic view of how the workforce actually works. There are sooooo many soft and hard skills that come into play, you cannot seriously make the argument that an IQ test will cover all of it.
I don't think IQ covers it at all. It certainty plays an important role. Resilience is extremely important. I agree, but it's also ironically both a heritable trait and a socioeconomic trait (support system, being taught good coping skills by parents)
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Slayerblade11
07/31/22 1:05:07 AM
#79:


A lot of people gloss over the fact that IQ s mostly a measure of your potential. If a person lacks the mindset, work ethic or the circumstances to apply themselves it's not much of a benefit. It's a lot of things but not all things, and at the end of the day IQ is just one factor that predicts a person's success in life.
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Turtlebread
07/31/22 1:06:38 AM
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I took one of those online tests and got 215

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averagejoel
07/31/22 1:10:24 AM
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ElGatoBravo posted...
I would highly suggest you read Angela Duckworth's book called ''Grit: the power of Passion and Perseverence'' which delves into that exact topic with science to back it up. After studying countless cases of high achievers in a wide variety of domains, it was revealed that consistant effort and a solid mindframe are the ultimate factors determining your achievements in life.
what a fucking joke

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Verdekal
07/31/22 1:23:47 AM
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Probably between 127 and 135.

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yemmy
07/31/22 1:34:35 AM
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Thats so funny that 140+ is in the lead, but not surprising. I'd bet my bank account the majority of people who voted that haven't even had it tested and just think they are smarter than everyone. There is no way statistically that half the people here are geniuses.

Anyway mine has never been officially tested but I was always in the top 99% for the OLSAT(mini iQ test basically) and in SAT in mathematics and language, was in the 80% in reading comprehension but I have mild Asperger's disorder and ADHD so my mind just wonders when I read. I have taken some online IQ tests, including one that is supposedly fairly accurate and I'm anywhere from 120-150. If I had to guess I'd say it's around 120.

Honestly I think if I took an Adderall and took an IQ test I'd do like 15 points better so all in all I think they are kinda bullshit in that regard. People aren't always at their peak cognition, there are a million things that affect your brain at any given time.

Someone who is always at the top of their game with 100 iq is smarter than someone like me with fucked up dopamine receptors, anemia and rheumatoid arthritis at 120.

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Turtlebread
07/31/22 1:36:56 AM
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yemmy posted...
Thats so funny that 140+ is in the lead, but not surprising. I'd bet my bank account the majority of people who voted that haven't even had it tested and just think they are smarter than everyone. There is no way statistically that half the people here are geniuses.


hold up guys, check out Einstein over here


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SamsungGearS2
07/31/22 1:37:17 AM
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Bout tree fiddy

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WilliamPorygon
07/31/22 1:42:24 AM
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I have Asperger's, but that's not an IQ

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Tenlaar
07/31/22 1:47:25 AM
#87:


cjsdowg posted...
Without trying to sound like a Rick and Morty meme. I have a high IQ. They did all these test on me when I was a kid. But I have like 5 Learning disabilities at the same time and a social phobia so it all comes out in the wash LOL.
Gonna have to press X to doubt that with some of the absolutely moronic threads you make.
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yemmy
07/31/22 11:54:35 AM
#88:


Turtlebread posted...
hold up guys, check out Einstein over here

Found one of the guys who claimed 140+ without it being professionally tested.

Around .25% of the population has 140 iqs. You don't need to be Einstein to realize that the smartest 1 out of 400 people end up being half the population of CE. The only way that would even be possible is if there was a admittance test to CE, I mean a top accredited university probably doesn't even have that percentage of 140+. Maybe the med schools.


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MrAndersonWb
07/31/22 8:03:37 PM
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thanks :3

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NeonOctopus
07/31/22 8:06:05 PM
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I took a test in high school from some kind of study team or something cuz I had a slight learning disability and they said I was 138 >_>

Must be why I can see the truth that boobs are better than ass, unlike the rest of you neanderthals!

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yemmy
07/31/22 8:48:38 PM
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NeonOctopus posted...
I took a test in high school from some kind of study team or something cuz I had a slight learning disability and they said I was 138 >_>

Must be why I can see the truth that boobs are better than ass, unlike the rest of you neanderthals!

Low IQ people dont realize poop comes from butts! The only thing that comes out of boobs is delicious milk.

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MrAndersonWb
07/31/22 8:58:22 PM
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yemmy posted...
Low IQ people dont realize poop comes from butts! The only thing that comes out of boobs is delicious milk.

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NeonOctopus
08/01/22 12:33:36 PM
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yemmy posted...
Low IQ people dont realize poop comes from butts! The only thing that comes out of boobs is delicious milk.
Damn straight! Boobs sustain Life. Asses poison Life.

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kirbyy
08/01/22 12:37:06 PM
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Half this topic being

I can't believe half of the people on this board score a 140, I scored a 165 though

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