Current Events > BIDEN: "This fall, Roe is on the ballot."

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Libs: We need to vote in more progressive/liberals to cancel out moderates.

Okay here's some good progressive/liberal candidates in your primar-

Libs: No >:( I got a flyer in the mail that said they were bad so I'm voting for the sensible moderate that can win and get things done.

Lol

Intro2Logic posted...

Is it on the ballot for me, a DC resident?

Oh, sorry, you aren't a state, so of course not!

RchHomieQuanChi posted...

It's always "oN tHe bALloT" Joe

Everyone wants to know what the fuck are y'all actually gonna do

Fuck this shit pisses me off

They get 2 more senators and they will codify roe federally. So, ya, roe is on the ballot.

daynlokki posted...

They get 2 more senators and they will codify roe federally. So, ya, roe is on the ballot.

Obama/Biden promised to codify roe, they were handed a super majority, and still didn't do it.

So, na, you're wrong.

It's strange that this board is mad about this. Most people here are 'vote blue, no matter who' types. Biden is right. We need to use this as a rallying cry so that turnout is high. People need to vote in huge numbers so we can eventually get a supermajority in the Senate to make abortions the land of the law. No need to cry over spilled milk. Time to use this to get the vote out.

foreverzero212 posted...

Obama/Biden promised to codify roe, they were handed a super majority, and still didn't do it.

So, na, you're wrong.

This isn't 2008. Many Democrats in the Senate were fairly conservative at that time.

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Definitely has republican tendencies. I was and still am confused why democrat voters were so excited for him. They had much better options.

SauI_Goodman posted...

Definitely has republican tendencies. I was and still am confused why democrat voters were so excited for him. They had much better options.

They had Bernie and........?

Irony posted...

They had Bernie and........?

Like 30 other candidates

foreverzero212 posted...

Like 30 other candidates

Feel free to name the ones better than Biden. I got my laugh track ready and my boo track for when you say Gabbard.

Irony posted...

Feel free to name the ones better than Biden. I got my laugh track ready and my boo track for when you say Gabbard.

Depends on what you mean by better.

Biden was getting stomped, calling people fat, challenging random people to push ups and IQ tests. Then Obama made some phone calls to make everyone from candidates to media coverage support him.

foreverzero212 posted...

Biden was getting stomped, calling people fat, challenging random people to push ups and IQ tests. Then Obama made some phone calls to make everyone from candidates to media coverage support him.

I remember when he wouldn't even acknowledge his Nevada loss and just flew off to South Carolina. Dude was an embarrasing joke until the endorsements flooded in.

foreverzero212 posted...

Depends on what you mean by better.

Biden was getting stomped, calling people fat, challenging random people to push ups and IQ tests. Then Obama made some phone calls to make everyone from candidates to media coverage support him.

What?

All the non-Bernie candidates mysteriously pulled out at the same time.

Shamino posted...

And Trump moved us backwards. And was voted in partially because Bernie voters wouldn't vote for Hillary.
Sooo...who is really to blame here?

In that case, Hillary.

hockeybub89 posted...

All the non-Bernie candidates mysteriously pulled out at the same time.

Not just pulled out, but pulled out to endorse Joe.

And MSNBC overnight went from "It's so sad to see that Joe's lost his fast ball. He's really struggling to form his thoughts up there" to "Incredible! A king was made, it's over, he's already the president, man Joe's so cool. I bet Trump wishes he was this cool."

Bernie was America's last chance. Keep in mind, we'd still have the same Supreme Court essentially, but I do believe Bernie would have actually pushed many progressive reforms through. He would have been the next FDR... without many of the bad parts of FDR's character itself.

Biden may be better than Trump, but he's one of the worst presidents so far imo. It's unfair to even call him middling. It was a shame to see Warren jump in the race, damage Bernie, and then jump out with everyone else at the same time, essentially crowning Biden. I remember being excited when 538 gave Bernie a 66% chance of winning the nomination, before the establishment really screwed him over. A word to the wise for these legacy-hungry politicians... the average American probably could name 10 presidents... even being president isn't enough to secure a lasting legacy, you have to actually change America. Do you think you will be remembered for being one of the forgettable 100 senators? Your own family will forget you by the time your great-grandchildren pass away.

PiOverlord posted...

Bernie was America's last chance. Keep in mind, we'd still have the same Supreme Court essentially, but I do believe Bernie would have actually pushed many progressive reforms through. He would have been the next FDR... without many of the bad parts of FDR's character itself.

Biden may be better than Trump, but he's one of the worst presidents so far imo. It's unfair to even call him middling. It was a shame to see Warren jump in the race, damage Bernie, and then jump out with everyone else at the same time, essentially crowning Biden. I remember being excited when 538 gave Bernie a 66% chance of winning the nomination, before the establishment really screwed him over. A word to the wise for these legacy-hungry politicians... the average American probably could name 10 presidents... even being president isn't enough to secure a lasting legacy, you have to actually change America. Do you think you will be remembered for being one of the forgettable 100 senators? Your own family will forget you by the time your great-grandchildren pass away.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/0/2/AAR6WtAADYh2.jpg

"i'm not even gonna vote any more" god damn don't be stupid. Vote harder than ever. you are needed.

Keep voting but you might as well acknowledge the uselessness of it at this point and start preparing yourself for what comes next, whatever it may be

Gwynevere posted...

Keep voting but you might as well acknowledge the uselessness of it at this point

if we stop voting you'll find out how much worse things will get. even worse than they are getting now

Vote aggressively.

By voting democrat you're essentially just voting to slow (but not stop) our descent into fascism, obviously that's better than voting to accelerate it, but it's not a long term solution.

Just a random story I wanted to share from my country (Malaysia).

Last election we voted harder than ever and managed to unseat the incumbent ruling party for the first time since our independence more than 50 years ago.

Everyone was high on the victory and expected a new dawn where we can look forward to a better future.

Merely 2 years later, the new government fell when the infighting spiraled out of control and elected politicians switched allegiance depending on who can offer better security & benefits.

Now the previous ruling party is in power again without even winning a general election and many of us are so jaded that we wondered if it's even worth voting again when the next election comes since there's no guarantee that whoever we voted for will not jump ship when it's beneficial for them.

St0rmFury posted...

Just a random story I wanted to share from my country (Malaysia).

Last election we voted harder than ever and managed to unseat the incumbent ruling party for the first time since our independence more than 50 years ago.

Everyone was high on the victory and expected a new dawn where we can look forward to a better future.

Merely 2 years later, the new government fell when the infighting spiraled out of control and elected politicians switched allegiance depending on who can offer better security & benefits.

Now the previous ruling party is in power again without even winning a general election and many of us are so jaded that we wondered if it's even worth voting again when the next election comes since there's no guarantee that whoever we voted for will not jump ship when it's beneficial for them.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/6/1/AAR6WtAADYkV.jpg

Irony posted...

Feel free to name the ones better than Biden. I got my laugh track ready and my boo track for when you say Gabbard.

A barrel of shit woulda been better than Biden

IronWolf87 posted...

By voting democrat you're essentially just voting to slow (but not stop) our descent into fascism, obviously that's better than voting to accelerate it, but it's not a long term solution.

This.

IronWolf87 posted...

by voting democrat you're essentially voting to slow (but not stop) our descent into fascism

then fucking do it. and if you want to stop republicans then do more than just vote.

St0rmFury posted...

Just a random story I wanted to share from my country (Malaysia).

Last election we voted harder than ever and managed to unseat the incumbent ruling party for the first time since our independence more than 50 years ago.

Everyone was high on the victory and expected a new dawn where we can look forward to a better future.

Merely 2 years later, the new government fell when the infighting spiraled out of control and elected politicians switched allegiance depending on who can offer better security & benefits.

Now the previous ruling party is in power again without even winning a general election and many of us are so jaded that we wondered if it's even worth voting again when the next election comes since there's no guarantee that whoever we voted for will not jump ship when it's beneficial for them.

Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't simply getting 50 Dems in the senate outside of Manchin and Sinema (and don't share their views on the filibuster) solve everything? Are we that far off?

Well this is a dark time for America.
Glad I'm in the UK .
Abortion legality polls around 85% here.
With only 5% in favour of an outright ban.
Guess Hilary in 2016 doesn't look so bad now.
All of this could have been avoided.

Shamino posted...

And Trump moved us backwards. And was voted in partially because Bernie voters wouldn't vote for Hillary.
Sooo...who is really to blame here?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/2/0/AADAKwAADYm0.png

The shitty electoral college system.

He's not wrong. Best thing to happen to the Dems, politically speaking, and they been needing something for a while now.

i'm starting to think they don't actually care and are just fundraising

IronWolf87 posted...

By voting democrat you're essentially just voting to slow (but not stop) our descent into fascism, obviously that's better than voting to accelerate it, but it's not a long term solution.

Okay, let's take away all your voting privileges then and see how long before you complain on a message board about "solutions" to change the US govt in charge.

Voting is not just picking a person you want to lead. It's also a key identitifier in knowing how many others agree with you as well as the majority of the population's opinions are on issues because numbers still matter in that sense. That's what builds confidence in defending your beliefs and based on what happened in 2016, a majority did not vote Republican, did not endorse Jan 6, and definitely does not agree with overturning Roe.

Cocytus posted...

He's not wrong. Best thing to happen to the Dems, politically speaking, and they been needing something for a while now.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/4/8/AAR6WtAADQKo.jpg

So hes gonna dangle this as a carrot for votes instead of doing something like acknowledging that AOCs plan is actually pretty fucking good?

Wetterdew posted...

then fucking do it. and if you want to stop republicans then do more than just vote.

Voting is not going to stop Republicans. Republicans are winning despite being the minority because they're willing to actually take action and because our government is setup in such a way where being a partisan obstructionist is ridiculously easy. Republicans know this and abuse it to their advantage.

Look. If you feel you need to vote, vote. It's probably the only thing you actually can do within the confines of the system that "feels" productive. But be realistic and realize that nothing is actually going to change unless the American populace as a whole is willing to disrupt the system and work outside of it.

"Vote blue, no matter who" is not a winning strategy and should not be the message we send to people who want to fix this shit. People forget that so many Democrats, especially now, are simply moderate Republicans who have been alienated by the GOP. Sinema and Manchin are Democrats. People voted them in, did exactly what they are told, and yet they might as well be Republicans, because all they've done is help Republicans.

And speaking on that, someone else brought up a very good point. Liberals will go out to the primaries, get cold feet and vote for the safe moderate option who tells you dead to your face that the Republican Party needs to be strong over progressive candidates who have been warning us the entire time that the Republican Party is too far gone and drastic action needs to be taken against them. But then place the blame squarely on people who don't vote without any sense of self-awareness lmao

If non-voters are to blame for the rise of the Republican Party, then so too are the people voting blindly for Democrats that seek to preserve a status quo that the Republicans have created.

DespondentDeity posted...

So hes gonna dangle this as a carrot for votes instead of doing something like acknowledging that AOCs plan is actually pretty fucking good?

lol that'd be hilarious because it's already overturned and nobody believes anything he promises anymore after 2 years in.

So there is literally no platform to run on anymore and we're left with the absolute peak consensus that we must not vote for Republicans "just because".

RchHomieQuanChi posted...

Voting is not going to stop Republicans

i agree voting alone isn't good enough, and that's why i said the second part of that sentence.

RchHomieQuanChi posted...

Look. If you feel you need to vote, vote.

No, just vote regardless. it is absolutely necessary. democrats need to change their strategy, but if we decide we don't need to vote any more, then republicans will take over even more easily than they are now. VOTE

For real though. Where do I vote on Roe v Wade? I only see a bunch of old white people.

Alternating mocking caps

Wetterdew posted...

No, just vote regardless. it is absolutely necessary. democrats need to change their strategy, but if we decide we don't need to vote any more, then republicans will take over even more easily than they are now. VOTE

Yeah I'm gonna second this. Dems may be trash, but republicans are fucking demonic and want a christian caliphate, if we can't stop them outright we should at least do everything possible to deny them the satisfaction of seeing the world they want come to fruition within their own lifetime.

Giblet_Enjoyer posted...

Yeah I'm gonna second this. Dems may be trash, but republicans are fucking demonic and want a christian caliphate, if we can't stop them outright we should at least do everything possible to deny them the satisfaction of seeing the world they want come to fruition within their own lifetime.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ0wXz47XT8

They already have the trifecta. Fucking do something now and maybe I'll vote for you. I'm honestly thinking about just starting to vote Republican all the time. We can't keep rewarding Democrats for being the party of, "hey we don't do anything but at least we're not actively legislating cruelty".

nexigrams posted...

They already have the trifecta. Fucking do something now and maybe I'll vote for you. I'm honestly thinking about just starting to vote Republican all the time. We can't keep rewarding Democrats for being the party of, "hey we don't do anything but at least we're not actively legislating cruelty".

"I hate the Democrats for not stopping the Republicans so I'll just vote for Republicans anyway" is one hell of a weird take.

Well, unless you want more conservative judges in the 2020s, 30s, 40s... you better vote Democrat

Error1355 posted...

"I hate the Democrats for not stopping the Republicans so I'll just vote for Republicans anyway" is one hell of a weird take.

its a weird take but the sentiment is sound.

democrats whole platform is - vote for us because were not republicans and they continually get away with it.

all talk, no action. But they keep getting votes anyway. So yeah, in a theoretical sense if they got absolutely clobbered across the board then perhaps they would come to their senses and realize just talking a big game isnt the answer. And unfortunately its been their and the nations undoing.

Error1355 posted...

"I hate the Democrats for not stopping the Republicans so I'll just vote for Republicans anyway" is one hell of a weird take.

I'd rather the destruction come sooner instead of it being a slow bleed.

Student loans are also on the ballot.

Irony posted...

I'd rather the destruction come sooner instead of it being a slow bleed.

Ill be screaming shut the fuck up in your direction from Neo-Treblinka