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Lebronwon
06/15/22 6:05:53 PM
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10919303/Australias-energy-crisis-worsens-Anthony-Albanese-hold-emergency-meeting-Thursday.html

Australia's energy crisis has deepened, with the National Electricity Market suspended, hospitals ordered to reduce electricity use and millions of people urged not to use basic appliances, despite the freezing winter weather. Anthony Albanese and energy minister Chris Bowen will hold an emergency meeting with industry and union leaders on Thursday to discuss the growing crisis, which has been likened to the situation in 'third world countries'. The potential for mass blackouts has increased with about 1800MW of coal-fired power not operating in Queensland and 1200MW of capacity offline in the states of NSW, Victoria, South Australia and Tasmania. The Tomago aluminium smelter in NSW, the country's biggest electricity user, was also forced to cut production to reduce the chance of a blackout. NSW Treasurer Matt Kean on Wednesday evening begged residents not to run dishwashers until late at night, and Sydney hospital staff were ordered to conserve power in all non-clinical settings. 'This is the result of two-and-a-half decades of policy failures by all sides of politics,' Victorian state Liberal MP Tim Smith said on Wednesday night.

'Like a third world country, we are rationing power in the two first weeks of winter.' Former Victorian Liberal Party President Michael Kroger said Australia had become 'an international laughing stock' over the crisis. 'We've got more uranium, oil, gas, gold, diamonds, whatever. We are the most ... energy rich country on the globe,' he told Sky News on Wednesday night. 'We're exploding with natural resources, yet we have an energy crisis. What a farce.' Mr Bowen said though power outages had been avoided up to now, the grid is still vulnerable to unexpected challenges. 'The system is under pressure,' he said. Liberal leader Peter Dutton also criticised the government, saying the crisis is 'completely untenable' and that businesses and families are facing huge pressure. He said Australians should not underestimate how 'precarious the energy market is right now' and warned Labor wants to move power generation to renewables 'too quickly'. NSW Liberal Senator Hollie Hughes called the crisis 'absolutely appalling', blaming Mr Bowen for power shortages across the country. 'This energy crisis has emerged since the Labor government took over and it's because, if you look at Chris Bowen he has levers in front of him though he doesn't seem to know which one to pull,' she told Sky News. Though there were no blackouts on Wednesday, the crisis is still affecting daily life in several states. Sydney hospitals were ordered to reduce their electricity use and millions of households across NSW were urged not to use their dishwashers.



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divot1338
06/15/22 6:07:19 PM
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Oh right, its winter in the southern hemisphere.

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Punished_Blinx
06/15/22 6:11:32 PM
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Lebronwon posted...
The system is under pressure,' he said. Liberal leader Peter Dutton also criticised the government, saying the crisis is 'completely untenable' and that businesses and families are facing huge pressure. He said Australians should not underestimate how 'precarious the energy market is right now' and warned Labor wants to move power generation to renewables 'too quickly'. NSW Liberal Senator Hollie Hughes called the crisis 'absolutely appalling', blaming Mr Bowen for power shortages across the country. 'This energy crisis has emerged since the Labor government took over and it's because, if you look at Chris Bowen he has levers in front of him though he doesn't seem to know which one to pull,' she told Sky News.

Weird how they managed to do this in less than a month when the Liberals were in charge for over a decade.

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KamenRiderBlade
06/15/22 6:13:52 PM
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Punished_Blinx posted...
Weird how they managed to do this in less than a month when the Liberals were in charge for over a decade.
Notice how not putting effort into baseline power generation and only spending all your money and effort on renewables is having a huge whiplash effect on society.

The fact that they haven't been focusing on baseline power generation and betting all their eggs on intermittent renewables is what causes this problem.

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Punished_Blinx
06/15/22 6:16:04 PM
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KamenRiderBlade posted...
Notice how not putting effort into baseline power generation and only spending all your money and effort on renewables is having a huge whiplash effect on society.

The fact that they haven't been focusing on baseline power generation and betting all their eggs on intermittent renewables is what causes this problem.

Labor managed to do that in a single month?

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KamenRiderBlade
06/15/22 6:16:50 PM
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Punished_Blinx posted...
Labor managed to do that in a single month?
Doubtful, nothing in politics moves that fast.

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KamenRiderBlade
06/15/22 6:17:50 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

The CEO's at the top didn't get jail time for failing to do what they were ordered to do with the $$$?

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Stalolin
06/15/22 6:20:18 PM
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https://twitter.com/andrewfx_51/status/1533773879294177280?s=21&t=cdHquKnUj6QhbYTpRGjYJQ

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Kloe_Rinz
06/15/22 6:20:21 PM
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the right wing governments MO has been dig up everything and sell it at bargain basement prices. and buy what we need from overseas

we have so much prime solar real-estate but most boomers and right-wingers get triggered by the word "renewables" so that hasn't happened

fuck boomers and fuck right-wing politicians/voters and fuck murdoch media
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Punished_Blinx
06/15/22 6:21:49 PM
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KamenRiderBlade posted...
Doubtful, nothing in politics moves that fast.

So like I was pointing out the Liberal Government who didn't want to put any focus on renewables so they could focus on industries like coal and who have been in power for the last decade are trying to shift the blame elsewhere despite only just losing electoral power last month. Also using this as an opportunity to spread FUD over renewable energies despite this issue being caused from the increased cost of coal and gas.

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Stalolin
06/15/22 6:29:32 PM
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Important context:

https://twitter.com/ketanj0/status/1536966787518054401?s=21&t=cdHquKnUj6QhbYTpRGjYJQ

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ColdOne666
06/15/22 6:33:18 PM
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KamenRiderBlade posted...
Notice how not putting effort into baseline power generation and only spending all your money and effort on renewables is having a huge whiplash effect on society.

The fact that they haven't been focusing on baseline power generation and betting all their eggs on intermittent renewables is what causes this problem.


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Kloe_Rinz
06/15/22 6:34:22 PM
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Stalolin posted...
Important context:

https://twitter.com/ketanj0/status/1536966787518054401?s=21&t=cdHquKnUj6QhbYTpRGjYJQ

Kloe_Rinz posted...
fuck murdoch media

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KamenRiderBlade
06/15/22 6:38:31 PM
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SMRs 'ideal fit' for Australian market, report finds
https://www.world-nuclear-news.org/Articles/SMRs-ideal-fit-for-Australian-market-report-finds
CEO Tania Constable's remarks accompanied the MCA's launch of Small Modular Reactors in the Australian Context, a discussion paper authored by Australian nuclear expert Ben Heard which provides an overview of SMRs, their potential role in Australia and likely operating costs. The 33-page document considers three of the "most advanced" SMR designs that are currently undergoing regulatory approval - NuScale's Power Module, GE-Hitachi's BWRX-300 and Terrestrial Energy's Integral Molten Salt Reactor - and their potential use in Australia. By 2030 and beyond, the levelised costs of electricity for those three SMR designs are estimated to be between AUD64 and AUD77 (USD46 and USD56) per MWh.

SMRs are an "ideal fit" for the Australian energy market, the report finds, citing their enhanced safety, lower cost than large-scale nuclear reactors or equivalent energy production methods, configurability, and lower waste production than current reactors. Furthermore, SMR modules have a similar capacity to many of the existing generator units that make up Australia's coal and gas-fired power plants so could easily replace ageing coal or gas-powered turbines without the need for additional grid investment, it says.

"Even with conservative assumptions that include higher than expected construction costs, SMRs could be Australia's lowest cost 24/7 zero emission power source that underpins reliable and secure electricity supplies," Constable said.

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Vyrulisse
06/15/22 6:39:31 PM
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They lost a war against Emus.

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Punished_Blinx
06/15/22 6:45:22 PM
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KamenRiderBlade posted...
SMRs 'ideal fit' for Australian market, report finds
https://www.world-nuclear-news.org/Articles/SMRs-ideal-fit-for-Australian-market-report-finds

"Despite this, outdated federal and state bans on nuclear power have seen Australia fall behind as the only G-20 country without access to nuclear energy or plans to develop it," she said. "Australia should take advantage of growing international interest in nuclear energy and look to expand its already significant uranium sector."

Guess who was in charge of the Federal Government in October 2021

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Alucard188
06/15/22 6:48:04 PM
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Oh, that's right. Murdoch media is apoplectic that the party they were backing lost the general election. Not surprised to see the spin doctors out.

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Trumble
06/15/22 6:49:26 PM
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KamenRiderBlade posted...
Notice how not putting effort into baseline power generation and only spending all your money and effort on renewables is having a huge whiplash effect on society.

The fact that they haven't been focusing on baseline power generation and betting all their eggs on intermittent renewables is what causes this problem.

This.

And that's not to say "don't find cleaner solutions for baseline generation". It's saying "make sure you have something in place, which may be the non-renewables until you get something better online". There are ideas out there - over in New Zealand, there's a proposal to use Lake Onslow as essentially a huge hydro power "battery" for example, it won't happen overnight and we need to keep other things running until it's ready, but that's an example of replacing unclean baseline power with cleaner options. Or else, there's always the (literal) nuclear option, if people can just get over their irrational fears of it. >_>

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KamenRiderBlade
06/15/22 6:49:57 PM
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Punished_Blinx posted...
Guess who was in charge of the Federal Government in October 2021
Will the new government in charge change their views on Nuclear Power?

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Giblet_Enjoyer
06/15/22 7:05:42 PM
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Trumble posted...
Or else, there's always the (literal) nuclear option, if people can just get over their irrational fears of it. >_>
We're so fucked. We should have been nearly all-nuclear like 30 years ago.

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Punished_Blinx
06/15/22 7:06:52 PM
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KamenRiderBlade posted...
Will the new government in charge change their views on Nuclear Power?

Currently their energy plan is this;
https://www.alp.org.au/policies/powering-australia
Labor's Powering Australia plan will:
  • Upgrade the electricity grid to fix energy transmission and drive down power prices.
  • Make electric vehicles cheaper with an electric car discount and Australias first National Electric Vehicle Strategy.
  • Adopt the Business Council of Australias recommendation for facilities already covered by the Governments Safeguard Mechanism that emissions be reduced gradually and predictably over time, to support international competitiveness and economic growth consistent with industrys own commitment to net zero by 2050.
  • Protect the competitiveness of Emissions Intensive Trade Exposed industries by ensuring they will not face a greater constraint than their competitors.
  • Allocate up to $3 billion from Labors National Reconstruction Fund to invest in green metals (steel, alumina and aluminium); clean energy component manufacturing; hydrogen electrolysers and fuel switching; agricultural methane reduction and waste reduction.
  • Provide direct financial support for measures that improve energy efficiency within existing industries and develop new industries in Regional Australia through a new Powering the Regions Fund.
  • Roll out 85 solar banks around Australia to ensure more households can benefit from rooftop solar.
  • Install 400 community batteries across the country.
  • Demonstrate Commonwealth leadership by reducing the Australian Public Services own emissions to net zero by 2030.
  • Invest in 10,000 New Energy Apprentices and a New Energy Skills Program.
  • Establish a real-world vehicle fuel testing program to inform consumer choice.
  • Work with large businesses to provide greater transparency on their climate related risks and opportunities.
  • Re-establish leadership by restoring the role of the Climate Change Authority, while keeping decision-making and accountability with Government and introducing new annual Parliamentary reporting by the Minister.
The Liberal Party are now bringing up nuclear energy after saying nothing about it for years which prompted the Energy Minister to say this;
https://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/transition-is-even-more-important-real-reason-for-australias-energy-crisis/news-story/ b5eb75c66649a0b94dba778adbca7516

Mr Bowen says there are no easy fixes for the problem caused by a complex range of international and domestic issues and says nothing is off the table.
The limit to that, however, seems to be the Coalitions suggestion it is time Australia investigates nuclear power.
The war in Ukraine has led to a global gas shortage, prompting Australia to rely on its ageing coal-fired power stations at least 25 per cent of which are offline due to scheduled or unscheduled outages.
Labor says the crisis has been exacerbated by the former governments reluctance to roll out a faster transition to renewables.
Now, Nationals Leader David Littleproud has been vocal in leading for a push towards nuclear, saying it should at least be a conversation.
Mr Bowen says theres no credibility in the idea.
Nine years in office and then coming up with bright ideas on the other side of election, Mr Bowen said.
Nuclear is the most expensive form of energy. We have a cost of living crisis. Energy prices are going through the roof and thats the big, bright idea? Lets have the most expensive form of energy we can possibly think of?
Lets come up with the most expensive form of energy and put that in there because that will somehow make the power prices cheaper? They want that debate?
Bring it on. Its a complete joke.

The Energy Council had this to say about it when they looked into it.
https://www.energycouncil.com.au/analysis/small-nuclear-reactors-come-with-big-price-tag-report/

Probably more of a long term solution but the shift away from coal powered energy stations needs a quicker solution. Which again is entirely the fault of the conservative Government that has maintained power over the last decade. There's no excuse we should be still relying on these old ass stations at this point regardless of what the alternative is.

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CreekCo
06/15/22 7:09:43 PM
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Hmmm. Thats not good.

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Lvaneede
06/18/22 8:00:41 AM
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Only on the eastern states. The best state, Western Australia doesnt have any energy issues.

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