Poll of the Day > Did Apu deserve to get cancelled

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Apu was a great character that mostly gave a positive view of indians

I'm shocked quagmire hasn't gotten canceled

No. That Hari Kondabolu is the one that deserved to be cancelled. If he learned to actually watch Apu led episodes of The Simpsons, he would have learned how much development they gave him throughout the show's run. He was more than just a character who ran a convenience store. There was more to The Simpsons than the family.

He wasn't any more of an offensive caricature than any other character on the show.

No. He was one of the best characters on the show. It would be nice to see an Native American that would do as well as Hank Arazia.

keyblader1985 posted...

He wasn't any more of an offensive caricature than any other character on the show.

This.

Imo, no

The longer the show goes on, the higher the chance more stuff will get canned

But yeah, I didnt see a problem with Apu

Do you know how many convenience stores I've been to with an Indian guy behind the counter?

Ganesha, arranged marriage,... Sanjay, it's all spot on

Muscles posted...

Apu was a great character that mostly gave a positive view of indians

Yeah hard working and (almost) always super professional. Hell even if he did get angry he'd still muster the happy "thank you come again"

In a show filled with buffoons and ass holes for the sake of comedy, he was portrayed as neither and possibly the most positively-portrayed recurring character in the show.

It's fucking madness that he got canceled just because a TINY minority of online twitter twits REEEE'd really hard about it.

don't really care, would have to ask an Indian

the most offensive part about the Simpsons is that it isnt funny

a show that should have been cancelled 25 years ago

streamofthesky posted...

It's fucking madness that he got canceled just because a TINY minority of online twitter twits REEEE'd really hard about it.

That's how most cancellations go, honestly.

how do we fix

There wasn't anything more wrong with him than the rest of the show. The most questionable element was the accent, but they do stereotypical accents for other groups.

The changing of Hibbert and Carl was also annoying, since they didn't even try to find a VA with a similar-sounding voice. And if they're going to pull bullshit like that, they should unretire characters whose VAs died.

Count_Drachma posted...

There wasn't anything more wrong with him than the rest of the show. The most questionable element was the accent, but they do stereotypical accents for other groups.

The changing of Hibbert and Carl was also annoying, since they didn't even try to find a VA with a similar-sounding voice. And if they're going to pull bullshit like that, they should unretire characters whose VAs died.

Yes exactly. I saw a clip of Hibbert's new voice. So fucking awful. The laugh was the best part of the original voice.

fuck no, he was a better person than most of the cast. perfect example of why cancel culture is trash.

It was just another example of reverse racism. Minorities are not allowed to be portrayed in the commercial world. Just like how they got rid of Uncle Ben, Aunt Jamima, and the Land O Lakes Indian girl. If you're not a white male, your mere existence is considered offensive.

Pretty sure Apu was almost universally loved by Indian-Americans

Heres a pointer

Try to take it in the shoulder

Yes along with the rest of the Simpsons season 52. They all deserve a respectful cancellation.

Apu is just lucky enough not to be desecrated anymore.

Zareth posted...

Pretty sure Apu was almost universally loved by Indian-Americans

We would need some statistics on that but who knows. I can pull up 50 anecdotes yeah "I'm an Indian and I loved Apu" but nothing really certain either way.

How did they get rid of him? Was there a story for his departure? Or was it just a situation where one season he and his family were simply gone from storylines?

TentacleDemon posted...

How did they get rid of him? Was there a story for his departure? Or was it just a situation where one season he and his family were simply gone from storylines?

Heres an article about it

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/the-simpsons-apu-retired-hank-azaria-racism-a9361821.html?amp

Basically, it sounds like the people who wanted him gone problem didnt even watch the show anymore If they ever did

LinkPizza posted...

Heres an article about it

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/the-simpsons-apu-retired-hank-azaria-racism-a9361821.html?amp

Well that answered my question. I don't actually watch the show anymore. Haven't in years so I wouldn't have noticed. They just decided to quietly phase him out slowly and didn't feel the need to make it a grand gesture by announcing to the world what they were doing. They just did what they felt was right without begging for public brownie points.

It still seems silly and unnecessary to me. Whatever, I'm not emotionally invested in any of it. But imagine if they decided to get rid of all of their "offensive" stereotypes.

Bugmeat posted...

Well that answered my question. I don't actually watch the show anymore. Haven't in years so I wouldn't have noticed. They just decided to quietly phase him out slowly and didn't feel the need to make it a grand gesture by announcing to the world what they were doing. They just did what they felt was right without begging for public brownie points.

It still seems silly and unnecessary to me. Whatever, I'm not emotionally invested in any of it. But imagine if they decided to get rid of all of their "offensive" stereotypes.

I think the only negative sterotype was him running a convience store. Never understood that being negative though as the sterotype usually includes them owning the store as far a I'm aware.

Revelation34 posted...

Yes exactly. I saw a clip of Hibbert's new voice. So fucking awful. The laugh was the best part of the original voice.

Ive saw a clip of a different black person voicing Dr. Hibbert here:

https://youtu.be/p_JIlyLg5pk

I think he would do a good job.

Sufferedphoneix posted...

I think the only negative sterotype was him running a convience store. Never understood that being negative though as the sterotype usually includes them owning the store as far a I'm aware.

Oh I totally agree. That's why I put the word offensive in quotes. It's not how I would describe the character but it is the word that the outraged were using. Apu was a kind, generous man with a solid work ethic and did everything to take care of his family. Even going out of his way to help friends and the community in general.

TentacleDemon posted...

Oh I totally agree. That's why I put the word offensive in quotes. It's not how I would describe the character but it is the word that the outraged were using. Apu was a kind, generous man with a solid work ethic and did everything to take care of his family. Even going out of his way to help friends and the community in general.

Yeah I got told I was subtly racist once cause it came up in conversation hoe I felt about Muslims and I said couldn't speak on it as the only ones I've met was behind the counter at a gas station. But that was true up till that day. Those Muslims owned the stores though.

Well I should say middle easterners cause a couple I'm not sure if they where Muslim based on my limited knowledge of the religion. There was one guy that fit all the stereotypes of a Persian. Like he was literally a walking sterotype.

But I'm from the south where the majority of our diversity is white black and Hispanic. Everything else Is majorly in the minority.

Wow, poll is pretty one sided. I think this proves pretty consistently that after 200 years America still doesn't care about Indians.

Bligh_with_no_T posted...

Wow, poll is pretty one sided. I think this proves pretty consistently that after 200 years America still doesn't care about Indians.

We care about them by removing them? They coulda done something else like change his character some.

Bligh_with_no_T posted...

Wow, poll is pretty one sided. I think this proves pretty consistently that after 200 years America still doesn't care about Indians.

Your trolling is pretty consistent.

Sufferedphoneix posted...

We care about them by removing them?

That's how America has always treated Indians!

ArmoredCore55 posted...

Ive saw a clip of a different black person voicing Dr. Hibbert here:

https://youtu.be/p_JIlyLg5pk

I think he would do a good job.

That's a lot better than the actual voice. They should have just kept the same voices but gave them reduced roles and hired more actors for new roles.

Bligh_with_no_T posted...

Wow, poll is pretty one sided. I think this proves pretty consistently that after 200 years America still doesn't care about Indians.

Indians weren't around 200 years ago in America.

Revelation34 posted...

Indians weren't around 200 years ago in America.

Not after they were dealt with certainly

Apu was a simple man just running a business. He did nothing wrong!

Revelation34 posted...

That's a lot better than the actual voice. They should have just kept the same voices but gave them reduced roles and hired more actors for new roles.

I agree. Hank Arazia always did a good job with Lou and Carl, too.

I liked him as a character but unfortunately all good things must come to an end. They probably could have handled the whole thing better imo.

Revelation34 posted...

Indians weren't around 200 years ago in America.

I don't even know where you could possibly get this sort of horrifically misinformed information.
Indiana was admitted to the union in December 11, 1816.
That's over 200 years ago.

2020: this year
2016: last year
2010: a couple years ago
The 2000s: 5-10 years ago
The 90s: ten years ago
1816: fifteen years ago

Whoever got him cancelled clearly doesn't understand the concepts of satire or parody.

Yes, along with every character. The whole show should have been cancelled over a decade ago.

Revelation34 posted...

Yes exactly. I saw a clip of Hibbert's new voice. So fucking awful. The laugh was the best part of the original voice.

Carl is crap too, so is Lou.
(I think they are even going to do this with bumblebee man, even though he is British.)

if one of the main cast were black, there is no way in hell they would recast their parts with a white person