Board 8 > What trainer wins Pokemon Journeys "World Coronation" tournament?

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_PandaMaster_
05/08/22 11:21:26 AM
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Champions Cup to the EXTREME!








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Champion of Champions. There can only be one CHARIZARD to rule them all.

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XIII_rocks
05/08/22 11:36:45 AM
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Leon beats Ash in the final, Ash as world champion is probably a bridge too far for the show

Ash beating anybody else there except Iris, which he'd have to do to make the final, would be pretty sweet though. Seeing Cynthia go down would be deeply, deeply satisfying

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mnkboy907
05/08/22 11:40:41 AM
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A Charizard user.

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WazzupGenius00
05/08/22 11:41:40 AM
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I didn't know Steven had a shiny Metagross in the show.

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XIII_rocks
05/08/22 11:42:37 AM
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Actually the ideal here is Ash beats Alain, then Cynthia. They botched XY so badly and they can redeem themselves by having Alain lose here, and Cynthia is such a fiend in the games seeing her lose would be a wonderful thing

Then the final is like... shrug emoji. I can't imagine a world where literally Ash is the number 1 trainer on the planet.

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Pirateking2000
05/08/22 11:52:41 AM
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Ash needs to beat Alain after they fucked him over in XY. Leon probably ends up winning the whole thing after being the one to beat Ash after a good battle since I doubt they'll let Ash win the whole thing (though it would be a fun surprise).

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CassandraCain
05/08/22 12:02:36 PM
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TWO Charizard users?

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XIII_rocks
05/08/22 12:46:10 PM
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CassandraCain posted...
TWO Charizard users?

This is also why Ash probably doesn't bring back his own Charizard for these battles even though he should

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pyresword
05/08/22 12:47:13 PM
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Definitely gonna be Steven. No way I'm wrong on this one; this isn't wishful thinking at all.

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KamikazePotato
05/08/22 12:50:12 PM
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Where's Tobias

I want to see a legendary spammer again

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mnkboy907
05/08/22 1:00:00 PM
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Also three Dragonite users.

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swirIdude
05/08/22 1:08:53 PM
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mnkboy907 posted...
A Charizard user.


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XIII_rocks
05/08/22 1:14:19 PM
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KamikazePotato posted...
Where's Tobias

I want to see a legendary spammer again

I'd have substituted one of them for Tobias

There's been a lot of callbacks and stuff recently but they've buried Tobias in the past

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BlueCrystalTear
05/08/22 1:20:59 PM
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XIII_rocks posted...
I'd have substituted one of them for Tobias

There's been a lot of callbacks and stuff recently but they've buried Tobias in the past
I think that's because they don't want to acknowledge that someone won a league title using hacked ubers.

I also think this is so epic that I have to ask: Where does the show go from here? Is this meant to be Ash's send-off? Because I doubt they can top something this insane. I am hoping for multiple battles that last two or three episodes, like the incredible Ash/Paul duel at the Sinnoh League. None of this rushed stuff.

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Nanis23
05/08/22 1:31:15 PM
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No gen 7 representive boo (well...I guess Ash is)

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KommunistKoala
05/08/22 1:31:19 PM
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Cynthia was still the league champion post Diamond and Pearl so Tobias couldnt even beat her

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XIII_rocks
05/08/22 1:56:40 PM
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BlueCrystalTear posted...
I also think this is so epic that I have to ask: Where does the show go from here? Is this meant to be Ash's send-off? Because I doubt they can top something this insane. I am hoping for multiple battles that last two or three episodes, like the incredible Ash/Paul duel at the Sinnoh League. None of this rushed stuff.

It's really possible that this is it for Ash as the main character. Because even if Ash loses, I'm not sure what they move onto next without just doing this world series again.

As for episodes, S/V is likely in mid-November, so there's like 20+ episodes left

I think to do this justice, you probably need like 7 or 8 episode arc, and that's assuming all three of Ash's matches are full battles and they don't show any others. I feel like some of it is inevitably going to be rushed

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charmander6000
05/08/22 1:59:00 PM
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Nanis23 posted...
No gen 7 representive boo (well...I guess Ash is)

I mean he is the Alolan champion and after including all of the champions there's only one spot remaining. The only champion that you could remove would be Iris (some may argue for Diantha, but having Alain and not her doesn't make sense), but from a story point of view, replacing her won't make much of a difference since Ash will only face 3/7 opponents.

As for who wins, it'll either be Leon or Ash

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Mewtwo59
05/08/22 2:19:20 PM
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XIII_rocks posted...
Ash beating anybody else there except Iris, which he'd have to do to make the final, would be pretty sweet though. Seeing Cynthia go down would be deeply, deeply satisfying

Honestly, I don't see him battling Iris here since he already beat her a while ago. Though if they don't want to make Ash look too good, they might give him the path of Alain -> Iris rematch -> loss to Leon so he doesn't beat any of the champions he hasn't already beaten.

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Mewtwo59
05/08/22 2:21:24 PM
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Also, I just realized that half of these people own a Charizard in some way.

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ShadowYosuke
05/08/22 2:29:22 PM
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KommunistKoala posted...
Cynthia was still the league champion post Diamond and Pearl so Tobias couldnt even beat her

I want to imagine Cynthia swept him with a Bidoof.
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KommunistKoala
05/08/22 2:31:02 PM
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Mewtwo59 posted...
Also, I just realized that half of these people own a Charizard in some way.
and 3 own a dragonite

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charmander6000
05/08/22 4:17:19 PM
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Mewtwo59 posted...
Honestly, I don't see him battling Iris here since he already beat her a while ago. Though if they don't want to make Ash look too good, they might give him the path of Alain -> Iris rematch -> loss to Leon so he doesn't beat any of the champions he hasn't already beaten.

Even if Ash faces Iris, she would have to defeat a different champion (perhaps Lance to cement her as a Dragon Master) to reach the semis. With that said, I don't think the two will face.

My dream bracket would be...

Leon > Diantha
Iris > Lance
Alain > Steven
Ash > Cynthia

Leon > Iris
Ash > Alain

Ash > Leon


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Hbthebattle
05/08/22 4:38:54 PM
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Keep in mind, this isnt a seeded tournament but a ranking system. Ash could very well end up facing all 7 opponents.

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charmander6000
05/08/22 5:40:29 PM
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I hope not, we have 25-30 episodes remaining until the start of Scarlet/Violet and obviously some of them won't be the tournament, they still need to finish Goh's and Chloe's stories. I feel things would be rushed if they try to squeeze in seven Ash battles.

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XIII_rocks
05/08/22 6:10:52 PM
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Three Ash battles, which should all be 6-on-6 at this level, with a rest episode in between the matches, is 9 episodes (the final should be 3 episodes; Kukui got 4, for christ's sake). That's longer than most leagues but the SM one was like 15 or 16 episodes so it could go either way.

What I like about this is that while the Ash/Leon final is expected, there's almost no possibility of writer bullshit like Tobias. All of them are known quantities and Ash could realistically and reasonably lose to any of them (except Iris, that would be dumb).

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_PandaMaster_
05/09/22 11:28:04 AM
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mnkboy907 posted...
A Charizard user.

Ash's Charizard: GO! AWAY! I'M RETIRED!!!

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voltch
05/09/22 11:46:53 AM
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Is the bracket set already?

Ash losing to Leon would be something, though I expect him to win the whole thing.

Leon beating Alain in a charizard off could be used to build hype further though at this point these characters have been hyped for donkey years.

Cynthia should lose to Ash to minimise salt. She loses to anyone else and her fans likely get mad. Though if Diantha beat her due to ace type advantage it would be funny.

They could go the sports anime route and have Ash vs Leon round 1 as well.

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charmander6000
05/09/22 12:03:12 PM
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The bracket isn't set yet.

I think fans may be okay if Cynthia loses to Leon too, but yeah, anyone else would cause a mass whining outbreak.

I think Alain will face Ash, like what's the point of bringing him in oppose to Raihan/Flint/Brandon if they weren't going to face each other.

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SaveEstelle
05/09/22 12:07:31 PM
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It's either Ash or Leon, I think.

BTW, fucking love that Alain's back. XY is my favorite series (with XYZ being far and away the best season within it).

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voltch
05/09/22 12:11:13 PM
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charmander6000 posted...
The bracket isn't set yet.

I think fans may be okay if Cynthia loses to Leon too, but yeah, anyone else would cause a mass whining outbreak.

I think Alain will face Ash, like what's the point of bringing him in oppose to Raihan/Flint/Brandon if they weren't going to face each other.

While Ash going over Alain makes sense, we've also seen in many an anime with a tournament the team that beat the MC lose just before a rematch to build up an even bigger threat.

At least they cannot pull the card of Ash wins a round but his team is too depleted and exhausted for the next round. His team at this point is deep enough he could rotate as much as he wants.

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GavsEvans123
05/09/22 5:17:02 PM
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With Scarlet and Violet coming up, Sword and Shield's time as the main Pokemon games is coming to an end, and there's little reason to keep shilling Leon as the undefeated unbeatable champion when his game is no longer the most current one, so there is a possibility he loses here. Serena recently came back briefly too, and I think that's the sort of thing that wouldn't happen unless Ash's time as the main protagonist is coming to an end.

This isn't going to happen, but it would be funny if Leon was disqualified for not showing up to the stadium, because he has no sense of direction and goes to a different region from where the tournament is being held.
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Mewtwo59
05/10/22 2:31:49 AM
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voltch posted...
At least they cannot pull the card of Ash wins a round but his team is too depleted and exhausted for the next round. His team at this point is deep enough he could rotate as much as he wants.

He hasn't used anything from before Journeys the entire time other than Pikachu (and Mr. Mime that one time), so I think he's only going to be using these 6 here.
GavsEvans123 posted...
This isn't going to happen, but it would be funny if Leon was disqualified for not showing up to the stadium, because he has no sense of direction and goes to a different region from where the tournament is being held.

After all the times Ash lost in the league due to some sort of nonsense, it'd be great he was able to win from some sort of nonsense this time.

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FL81
05/10/22 2:40:28 AM
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LEON

look at that confident pose

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Shonen_Bat
05/10/22 2:58:27 AM
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Leon or Cynthia

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