Current Events > reminder chrono cross is a pale shadow of a game compared to chrono trigger

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But you didnt. Everyone knows it. Hes a well received villain.

LMAO

Are you sure it was that no one wanted to challenge you

Are you sure it wasn't that no one cared

You just yell that something sucks. No one wants to waste time arguing against you when the majority believes the opposite. It sounds like your just trolling. Cause you are, even by your own words.

CC is a good game with some glaring issues. CT is babies first rpg that anyone can enjoy.

I guess it's just a great game for....

I have a hard time guessing your age....

Right because no one is just yelling "CC is a good game". You have tunnel vision.

Says the guy who attacks the people directly when he can't attack the argument, and blindly fanboys over Kefka.

You think you're an adult?

generally popular and liked.

I guess it's just a great game for....

What a piss poor reason. I guess if anything if generally popular and liked then they can't be bad no matter what. I sure hope you don't like anything that's popular and liked because you'd be wrong.

...having a good story, a fun combat system, beautiful art direction and an even better score, a large cast to recruit

"But a lot of those characters are useless!"

So are a lot of Pokemon, but people still love those games even if they have no intention of using a Bibarel.

I say this a lot, but most of Cross's cast are just a fun bonus to recruit if you want to go for completion. You still get your cast of core characters that are story-based recruits, but somebody like, say, Skelly is optional for a reason. He doesn't matter, but he's a fun reward for doing a sidequest.

There's a very marked difference between "I just don't like this popular thing" and militantly insisting that everybody who DOES like it are just stupid, wrong, and bandwagoning.

One of those makes you an individual with an opinion. The other makes you a jackass edgelord.

Oh am I oppressing you CC lovers?

I say this a lot, but most of Cross's cast are just a fun bonus to recruit if you want to go for completion. You still get your cast of core characters that are story-based recruits, but somebody like, say, Skelly is optional for a reason. He doesn't matter, but he's a fun reward for doing a sidequest.

In that case, which one?

Guile. And he's a pretty important one.

Chrono Cross spat in the face everything Chrono Trigger stood for and introduced the absolute worst feature any RPG can have: Too many party members.

No game should ever have that many playable characters unless it's a fighting game. It just destroys balance and the story.

Obviously not that important if they were able to scrap his early concept entirely and relegate him to being an optional recruit.

Another thing I thought was awesome about Chrono Cross was the character Sprigg. She had the ability to transform into any monster she defeated which was a lot of fun. Most games dont let you play as every monster in the game in addition to an already huge cast of characters.

Nah, Suikoden did it fine

They only did that to Guile because they wanted to focus on other things such as a huge cast. Guile was meant to have a much much bigger role. Everyone who knows anything about CC knew this.

If you're gonna give Chrono Cross flak for having too many playable characters with no story relevance, you have to give Suikoden that exact same flak.

If Guile secretly being Magus in disguise was something critical to the plot, they would have kept it as a main element of the plot. If they were able to cut that aspect of the character during planning, then it wasn't really a necessary aspect to begin with.

This isn't hard to grasp.

And yet the crux of their argument against the large roster of recruitables is that the game didn't drag Magus back into the plot just to ruin him as well?

Anybody who didn't keep Sprigg in their party because her base form was the weakest character in the game really missed out

I'd say having Magus in the game to resolve the Guile speculation would be a good thing despite what they did to the other OG CT characters.

Serge is pronounced like Russian's Sergei without the i, not like sarge/surge.

So in your opinion, "good writing" is shoehorning a character into the game for literally no reason other than to establish that they're not a different character who is not demonstrated in the game itself to BE that character and was only briefly considered as such during the early stages of development?

I am curious if my opinion would have changed if I played Chrono Trigger first. Since Chrono Cross was the first JRPG I really got into, I never had the feeling of disappointment a lot of others seem to have with the game. Looking back, I can understand their complaints, but I already had so much fun with the game by that point that the problems never really bothered me.

Why are people talking about the Chrono games so much lately?

They're both amazing games.

So in your opinion, "good writing" is shoehorning a character into the game for literally no reason other than to establish that they're not a different character who is not demonstrated in the game itself to BE that character and was only briefly considered as such during the early stages of development?

you are coming dangerously close to realizing that a lot of criticism leveled at chrono cross' plot is that people want to see all their 16 bit best friends from chrono trigger in another game (where nothing bad ever happens to them because anything less than a perfect happy ending is "shitting all over it")