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Scintillant
02/12/22 2:45:57 AM
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I anticipated that game for so long..
Nearly 5 years after Tales of Berseria and it was just so mediocre.

The characters seemed to have no love at all... No fun, no joy, just a really shitty situation that made them all one dimensional and dull. No plot or anything until the last two hours of the game. Some of the last skits and side quests were cute and enjoyable but most were just tedious. There weren't any side characters that made it feel like we were active in the world. I feel like even Tales of Zestiria was superior here.

The villains didn't exist really. The world felt so empty.

The battle system was really bad, mainly because of the boss fights. The regular fights were okay, but once I got to the end dungeon where everything had like 100k HP i just wanted the game to be over. If you went on the board when the game came out half the advice was "just spam reigning slash lol". No point in trying to combo bosses, they aren't staggerable. You have the boost attacks but when you start a combo they can just auto shake out of it so it's really a waiting game.

The graphics are nice but the music is forgettable.

It's the only Tales game i didn't immediately dive into a NG+. After I cleared Hearts R I played through the whole game again. But this I think I barely started a new file before moving on.

I wanted the love the older games have. And I don't even mean back to Phantasia/Symphonia/etc. I even loved Berseria to death. But man this game I tried so hard to love but I just can't. I'm glad other people do though.

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KainWind
02/12/22 2:49:15 AM
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Scintillant posted...
It's the only Tales game i didn't immediately dive into a NG+.

Same, I had no interest when I got all the achievements on my first playthrough and no grade shop devastated me.

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Scintillant
02/12/22 2:55:00 AM
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KainWind posted...
Same, I had no interest when I got all the achievements on my first playthrough and no grade shop devastated me.
My achievements were bugged and I missed 3 story-related ones which was really annoying and the only reason I was thinking of doing one anyway.

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Scintillant
02/12/22 4:14:04 PM
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bump

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a-c-a-b
02/12/22 4:21:35 PM
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I liked the game at first but it kinda went downhill as the story progressed. I didn't really like the combat either.

I ended up finishing it but it definitely felt like a chore. I've replayed all the other Tales games that I've finished, but I don't see myself playing Arise for a 2nd time.

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DeadBankerDream
02/12/22 4:23:02 PM
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I haven't thought about it enough to say it's one of my biggest disappointments ever, but I absolutely despised it by the end of it.

Like, it's pretty fucking disappointing, but it's not Kingdom Hearts 3 or anything.

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1337toothbrush
02/12/22 4:24:23 PM
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Not when Duke Nukem Forever exists.

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spikethedevil
02/12/22 4:24:32 PM
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Great game imo.

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Cleo_II
02/12/22 4:25:48 PM
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I literally just finished a couple of hours ago. What a convoluted mess of story with the most boring one dimensional characters ever.
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RockLee94
02/12/22 4:25:48 PM
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Game falls off a cliff when you get to Lenegis.

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DeadBankerDream
02/12/22 4:26:45 PM
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RockLee94 posted...
Game falls off a cliff when you get to Lenegis.
It was hanging in midair by chapter 4, IMO.

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orcus_snake
02/12/22 4:26:55 PM
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On the topic of music what is the name of the snow village in Hearts R?
That track was miles ahead of anything else in that game holy shit, it was like done by an entirely different team.

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Biofighter55
02/12/22 4:32:28 PM
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It was my first tales game but I like it

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Scintillant
02/12/22 4:42:20 PM
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orcus_snake posted...
On the topic of music what is the name of the snow village in Hearts R?
That track was miles ahead of anything else in that game holy shit, it was like done by an entirely different team.

Dronning, I believe? I just looked it up, I didn't remember. Haven't played it in over 6 years unfortunately.

DeadBankerDream posted...
It was hanging in midair by chapter 4, IMO.
Honestly chapter 3 gave me hope because I felt like we were learning a lot but then 4 happened and I kinda clocked out.

Biofighter55 posted...
It was my first tales game but I like it
Not to sound I guess too negative but if you try the others you may like them a lot more!

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Antifar
02/12/22 4:46:48 PM
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Granted, I haven't played a Tales game since Symphonia, but I had a really good time with it, though I do recognize your criticisms, especially about the lack of side quests and characters.

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Turbam
02/12/22 4:47:17 PM
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Can't be worse than Zestiria

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Lairen
02/12/22 4:49:07 PM
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All these games besides Phantasia suck. And you have to mod in a translation for it.

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The Nintendo Master
02/12/22 4:49:34 PM
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Scintillant posted...
The battle system was really bad
Yes.

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TheDurinator
02/12/22 4:50:19 PM
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Turbam posted...
Can't be worse than Zestiria
Nothing is worse than Zestiria. Arise's story turns into a tire fire by the end but it's at least the combat is a lot of fun, some of the best in the series. There is absolutely no reason to ever do NG+ in Arise though.
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Raikuro
02/12/22 4:55:39 PM
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Was definitely disappointed with Arise. Meanwhile their current mobile cash grab Tales of Luminaria has significantly more effort put into its characters, music, and story. Shame mobile combat is so awful.
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Holy_Cloud105
02/12/22 4:57:54 PM
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Xillia started the stupid random super armor on everything trend Tales of seems to have now. Xillia 2 wasn't as bad as Xillia 1 and I think it has the best battle system in the series. Zestiria, Berseria and Arise then doubled down on the shitty super armor. I really hate the battle system in Zestiria and Berseria too, it made me stop playing them.

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Scintillant
02/12/22 5:27:24 PM
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Lairen posted...
All these games besides Phantasia suck. And you have to mod in a translation for it.
naur

Turbam posted...
Can't be worse than Zestiria
Maybe not worse but I was disappointed by it more

Raikuro posted...
Was definitely disappointed with Arise. Meanwhile their current mobile cash grab Tales of Luminaria has significantly more effort put into its characters, music, and story. Shame mobile combat is so awful.
I will never play a mobile game out of principle. can't believe my two favorite series (this + fire emblem) are doing this to me ._.

Holy_Cloud105 posted...
Xillia started the stupid random super armor on everything trend Tales of seems to have now. Xillia 2 wasn't as bad as Xillia 1 and I think it has the best battle system in the series. Zestiria, Berseria and Arise then doubled down on the shitty super armor. I really hate the battle system in Zestiria and Berseria too, it made me stop playing them.
I don't remember it being that bad in Berseria, but yes the super armor is absolutely infuriating and makes learning fun combos pointless because they don't even matter lol

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ultimate reaver
02/12/22 5:28:11 PM
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loltales

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badjay
02/12/22 5:29:34 PM
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Scintillant posted...
No point in trying to combo bosses, they aren't staggerable.
What were they thinking with this bullshit tbh. What's the point of the penetration stat if it's going to be fucking useless for bosses.

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Scintillant
02/12/22 6:31:36 PM
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badjay posted...
What were they thinking with this bullshit tbh. What's the point of the penetration stat if it's going to be fucking useless for bosses.
Yeah I get it was maybe a mistake in Xillia 1 which I thought was very pleasantly resolved in Xillia 2 (I love the combat in this game!) , but man it's awful for it to be back in any capacity.

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R_Jackal
02/12/22 6:32:22 PM
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Same. The story and dialogue was a bit of a tire fire, but at least the combat was fun.
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fohstick
02/12/22 6:36:38 PM
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Tales was never a good series to begin with
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
02/12/22 6:41:34 PM
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Arise was the first time I've cared about a Tales game since Vesperia... so.... *shrug*

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Senta
02/12/22 6:44:56 PM
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I enjoyed it a bit. Story could have been great if it was better paced, but it was just super back loaded.

Combat was too easy, though. Played on Hard from the start, and by end game, I was melting through any enemy and boss, dealing 40 to 50k chunks of damage every few seconds.

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Prismsblade
02/12/22 6:48:12 PM
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Holy_Cloud105 posted...
Xillia started the stupid random super armor on everything trend Tales of seems to have now. Xillia 2 wasn't as bad as Xillia 1 and I think it has the best battle system in the series. Zestiria, Berseria and Arise then doubled down on the shitty super armor. I really hate the battle system in Zestiria and Berseria too, it made me stop playing them.
It's a balancing mechanic they added so players couldn't stun lock bosses infinitely. Even though nobody short of the most skilled players could ever even abuse it. Or if there wad a move that made it easy, they have only themsevles to blame for not just patching out if it bothered them that much... who cares.

Even then, this is a single player game, so who's jimmies are they rustling taking the easy path?.

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Irony
02/12/22 6:49:23 PM
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Yeah I'd probably put it near the bottom middle. No my most disappointing Tales game though.

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Scintillant
02/12/22 6:52:02 PM
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fohstick posted...
Tales was never a good series to begin with
it's very good actually

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ultimate reaver
02/12/22 7:07:24 PM
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fohstick posted...
Tales was never a good series to begin with


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Blue_Inigo
02/12/22 7:08:21 PM
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spikethedevil posted...
Great game imo.


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orcus_snake
02/12/22 7:24:09 PM
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Scintillant posted...
Dronning, I believe? I just looked it up, I didn't remember. Haven't played it in over 6 years unfortunately.

Honestly chapter 3 gave me hope because I felt like we were learning a lot but then 4 happened and I kinda clocked out.

Not to sound I guess too negative but if you try the others you may like them a lot more!

Sorry I meant the name of the music track that plays while you explore it but you jogged my memory a bit and that may be the name inded.

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It is indeed, what an incredible fucking track holy shit.

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Scintillant
02/12/22 7:39:01 PM
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orcus_snake posted...
Sorry I meant the name of the music track that plays while you explore it but you jogged my memory a bit and that may be the name inded.

*youtubes*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfIyB8aOK-Q&ab_channel=Preacher%27sGames

It is indeed, what an incredible fucking track holy shit.
idk if it's thematic to the series but the snowy towns in tales games always go hard

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Delirious_Beard
02/12/22 7:40:06 PM
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most tales games are bad

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Scintillant
02/12/22 7:41:41 PM
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Delirious_Beard posted...
most tales games are bad
nope

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Scarecrow17
02/12/22 7:44:11 PM
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Honestly, most Tales games are okay at best. I like this series enough to own almost all of the English releases plus some imports but it's not that great. Tales of Arise was very lackluster, though.

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Blue_Inigo
02/12/22 9:05:58 PM
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The voice acting and combat are great wtf

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ultimate reaver
02/12/22 9:46:17 PM
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Delirious_Beard posted...
most tales games are bad


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The Wheelman1
02/13/22 10:30:26 AM
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Nothing will ever top the disappointment of Duke Nukem Forever imo. Waited a whole decade for this game and it sucked.

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Irony
02/13/22 10:31:07 AM
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The Wheelman1 posted...
Nothing will ever top the disappointment of Duke Nukem Forever imo. Waited a whole decade for this game and it sucked.
Your expectations should have been grounded

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Holy_Cloud105
02/13/22 12:22:55 PM
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Prismsblade posted...
It's a balancing mechanic they added so players couldn't stun lock bosses infinitely. Even though nobody short of the most skilled players could ever even abuse it. Or if there wad a move that made it easy, they have only themsevles to blame for not just patching out if it bothered them that much... who cares.

Even then, this is a single player game, so who's jimmies are they rustling taking the easy path?.
I know that's why they did it but like you said, how many people actually knew how to do it? Graces f handled it really well I thought. The bosses were hard enough and to be able to get the kill them in 60 second trophies you had to learn how to kill them in one combo on the hardest difficulties. I thought it was really fun.

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