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SilvosForever
02/11/22 8:34:31 PM
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Do you think video games should be a platform for addressing social injustices?



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Solo_Wing
02/11/22 8:36:29 PM
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Fuck no. You've already got Twitter for that

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Guide
02/12/22 8:28:06 AM
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don't see why video games shouldn't, it's an artistic medium like anything else.

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Cheater87
02/12/22 8:29:32 AM
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If you don't want to buy a SJW game, then don't buy it. Easy as that.

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Jx1010
02/12/22 8:37:25 AM
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Nah man, relax with ur politics and social issues.
Normal people dont need to be oversaturated with this. Games are to relax and have fun.

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SauI_Goodman
02/12/22 8:41:43 AM
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People could always choose not to buy them if they do.

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TheOtherMike
02/12/22 8:41:46 AM
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That's entirely for the creator to decide.
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Sad_Face
02/12/22 8:42:30 AM
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They're products made for entertainment. If you want to put food on the table via videogame development, generally the better selling games thrive purely from offering entertainment via compelling gameplay, not by making a statement.

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Dat_Cracka_Jax
02/12/22 8:43:05 AM
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If they want to

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teep_
02/12/22 8:44:07 AM
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Guide posted...
don't see why video games shouldn't, it's an artistic medium like anything else.

SauI_Goodman posted...
People could always choose not to buy them if they do.
This.

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Vyrulisse
02/12/22 8:44:50 AM
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I think videogames can be a legitimate vehicle to address all sorts of issues but not all the time in every game ever.

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Guide
02/12/22 8:46:10 AM
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Jx1010 posted...
Games are to relax and have fun.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/7/4/AAfEiLAACuh6.jpg

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Guide
02/12/22 8:47:22 AM
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Sad_Face posted...
They're products made for entertainment. If you want to put food on the table via videogame development, generally the better selling games thrive purely from offering entertainment via compelling gameplay, not by making a statement.

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ChocoboMog123
02/12/22 8:48:53 AM
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I only play non-political games, like Final Fantasy.

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ViewtifulJoe
02/12/22 9:16:26 AM
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I voted no but they aren't going away are they? I wish the interactive movies with minimal replay value on the whole would announce themselves as such. That'd be a pretty clean fix.

The fans of those would even have an easier time knowing where to look too. There'd be a shelf covered in political statement simulators, walking simulators, experiences, interactive tours of the latest graphics, resident evil 7, games with the word 'important' used a lot in their high scoring reviews, games whose devs do not use the word fun, exclusives you can fiercely defend online to stave off the buyer's remorse after a console purchase, the game that has the current meme everyone's already run into the ground and more.
They could put that shelf by the funko pops. They could even turn the price up to 80 or 90 dollars since these people seem to overvalue a one time novelty to a comedic extent.

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IShall_Run_Amok
02/12/22 9:26:42 AM
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I'm okay with all manners of video games existing.

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Dakimakura
02/12/22 9:29:00 AM
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America has lost it, i playing Japan games only for now on.

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Xethuminra
02/12/22 9:29:29 AM
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People still argue that the N64 wasn't a hunk of junk. Therefore, yes. We all need to be more tolerant.
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The Wheelman1
02/12/22 9:30:18 AM
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Videogames are supposed to be our escape from sjw politics. Not become part of it.
I hate how SJWs feel the need to force feed their terrible beliefs down everyones throat.

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TheOtherMike
02/12/22 9:33:34 AM
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The Wheelman1 posted...
Videogames are supposed to be our escape from sjw politics.

Video games, like any other creative work, are supposed to be what their creators want them to be.

The Wheelman1 posted...
I hate how SJWs feel the need to force feed their terrible beliefs down everyones throat.

So who forced you to buy and play a game you didnt like?
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FurryPhilosifer
02/12/22 9:40:10 AM
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I hate it when games force their views on me. We get it! America is good. War is good. Dogs are good. You don't have to keep going on about it in every game.

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Thompson
02/12/22 9:49:05 AM
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Video games are just a medium, not that much different from movies, books, and music.
GTA is chock full of satire and social commentary, whereas Farming Simulator has extremely little of it, if any at all.
Which one do you enjoy more?

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UnicornRaline
02/12/22 9:52:43 AM
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I'm torn on this matter actually.

On the one hand, I do like seeing issues get mainstream representation through games, so they can be brought up as points of conversation, and get folks talking about the issue.

On the other hand, I don't want game developers to make their game just to push an issue or agenda, that makes the game weaker overall for it.

There needs to be a happy medium to it, where the matters of whatever issue the game wants to represent are there, but it isnt all that the game is about.

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Xethuminra
02/12/22 9:58:09 AM
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We have to remember that the audience of games is primarily a child ages 10-16 and that that audience begins to thin out as they approach college. It's important to reflect a positive worldview for them.
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Antifar
02/12/22 9:59:09 AM
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It's funny to see this topic, and some of the comments in it, in the wake of a Sims 4 expansion not being sold in Russia because it features gay marriage.
https://www.ign.com/articles/ea-wont-release-sims-4-my-wedding-stories-russia?amp=1

I'd be curious to know how you folks envision devs being prevented from using video games as a platform for politics.


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The_Creep_2020
02/12/22 9:59:39 AM
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SauI_Goodman posted...
People could always choose not to buy them if they do.


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Tenlaar
02/12/22 10:04:05 AM
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Xethuminra posted...
We have to remember that the audience of games is primarily a child ages 10-16 and that that audience begins to thin out as they approach college. It's important to reflect a positive worldview for them.
That is just flat out not true. 18-34 is the largest age demographic of people who play video games.
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Xethuminra
02/12/22 10:18:44 AM
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Tenlaar posted...
That is just flat out not true. 18-34 is the largest age demographic of people who play video games.
Is that the same statistic that claims that the average player plays an hour a day and that half of gamers are female?

Please share what you think that means about a separate statistic which claims that 76% of children under 18 play games.

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Tenlaar
02/12/22 10:24:48 AM
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Im glad youre done with saying things that arent true on the internet, we need less of that.
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hockeybub89
02/12/22 10:26:39 AM
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People have been expressing their beliefs in art for thousands of years. Why stop now?

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hockeybub89
02/12/22 10:29:34 AM
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The Wheelman1 posted...
Videogames are supposed to be our escape from sjw politics. Not become part of it.
I hate how SJWs feel the need to force feed their terrible beliefs down everyones throat.
I sure hope you hate GTA games. Some of the most political games out there.

Oh wait, you only get upset at "politics" that you disagree with, like LGBT characters existing or something.

Can you even name 5 games that shove their big meaty SJWism down your succulent throat?

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thronedfire2
02/12/22 10:30:37 AM
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ViewtifulJoe posted...
I voted no but they aren't going away are they? I wish the interactive movies with minimal replay value on the whole would announce themselves as such. That'd be a pretty clean fix.

The fans of those would even have an easier time knowing where to look too. There'd be a shelf covered in political statement simulators, walking simulators, experiences, interactive tours of the latest graphics, resident evil 7, games with the word 'important' used a lot in their high scoring reviews, games whose devs do not use the word fun, exclusives you can fiercely defend online to stave off the buyer's remorse after a console purchase, the game that has the current meme everyone's already run into the ground and more.
They could put that shelf by the funko pops. They could even turn the price up to 80 or 90 dollars since these people seem to overvalue a one time novelty to a comedic extent.


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Zodd3224
02/12/22 10:31:04 AM
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TheOtherMike posted...
That's entirely for the creator to decide.


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hockeybub89
02/12/22 10:32:27 AM
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Vyrulisse posted...
I think videogames can be a legitimate vehicle to address all sorts of issues but not all the time in every game ever.
Good thing we live in such a reality.

Do you ever stop crying about shit that doesn't matter?

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Xavier_On_High
02/12/22 10:35:23 AM
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I think they should, unless they're making a point that I disagree with, because I'm a big stupid baby.

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ViewtifulJoe
02/12/22 10:44:43 AM
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thronedfire2 posted...
are you ok
Probably not, but lately I am finding some catharsis in going off on things I dislike.

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hockeybub89
02/12/22 10:45:55 AM
#37:


Xavier_On_High posted...
I think they should, unless they're making a point that I disagree with, because I'm a big stupid baby.
Exactly. It's like how I don't listen to all the crappy political music these days. I listen to classic stuff like CCR and Springsteen. I want to escape from life and just groove to a beat, not hear someone's agenda.

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hockeybub89
02/12/22 10:47:09 AM
#38:


ViewtifulJoe posted...
Probably not, but lately I am finding some catharsis in going off on things I dislike.
How much do you fucking hate Metal Gear Solid? Or is that okay because Kojima puts a couple giant boobs in his games and they distract you?

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gamepimp12
02/12/22 10:50:15 AM
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Art from a time period should reflect the cultural views of that time period

it doesnt have to be controversial to be political

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Thompson
02/12/22 10:52:03 AM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Exactly. It's like how I don't listen to all the crappy political music these days. I listen to classic stuff like CCR and Springsteen. I want to escape from life and just groove to a beat, not hear someone's agenda.
I see what you did there.

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ViewtifulJoe
02/12/22 10:56:14 AM
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hockeybub89 posted...
How much do you fucking hate Metal Gear Solid? Or is that okay because Kojima puts a couple giant boobs in his games and they distract you?
I'm not very good at stealth games in general so I first played it mainly because other people were dead set on recommending it. A lot of the time I was waiting for it to click and become something I wanted to replay and experiment with but it never did. This was back before interactive movies took over so I couldn't instantly identify it. Kinda just shrugged.

As for giant distractions Eva is all I can think of, the other games were just a lot of skulking around murky rooms and a jungle. I've played 1-3 and then when even the actual MGS fans were starting to call out problems with the later games I backed right off for good except Revengeance which was okay. Quoting it is definitely more fun than playing it.

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Fluttershy
02/12/22 10:57:06 AM
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so what i've noticed from being part of a fairly politically agnostic game series' community (souls) is that with no direct message or political statement, people will show up and use it to make political statements anyway. just like on gamefaqs, you have roaming alt-right tumors in the souls community -- packs of them. they will take advantage of that, turn it political, and then tell you not to.

i think as a game dev if you sit on your hands in this environment you basically invite that. obviously, that's not fair to devs at all. but it's how it looks from here.

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ProboBum
02/12/22 11:01:38 AM
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I just find it funny that people are saying "it should be up to the creators" yet when the creators DON'T make a political statement in their games, people get butt hurt. Can't preach it's up to the creators while also being upset if the creators don't bend to your whims. Anyway, I'm neither for nor against it. I don't particularly care either way.

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kirbymuncher
02/12/22 11:03:59 AM
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FurryPhilosifer posted...
I hate it when games force their views on me. We get it! America is good. War is good. Dogs are good. You don't have to keep going on about it in every game.
I can't tell if this is a real post or the most powerful satire I have ever seen

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hockeybub89
02/12/22 11:04:50 AM
#45:


ProboBum posted...
I just find it funny that people are saying "it should be up to the creators" yet when the creators DON'T make a political statement in their games, people get butt hurt. Can't preach it's up to the creators while also being upset if the creators don't bend to your whims. Anyway, I'm neither for nor against it. I don't particularly care either way.
Shit. You cracked the code. We better ban video games from having stories so no developer accidentally makes a statement based on their personal beliefs

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ProboBum
02/12/22 11:09:19 AM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Shit. You cracked the code. We better ban video games from having stories so no developer accidentally makes a statement based on their personal beliefs
Oh shit, I didn't mean to!!!!

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hockeybub89
02/12/22 11:10:05 AM
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What even is an "interactive movie" since all types of games have included entries that have been criticized for containing "SJW politics"?

Are Mass Effect and Assassin's Creed just movies? Bioshock? Wolfenstein? Is it any game with cutscenes and dialog more significant than Dark Souls?

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Tobi011
02/12/22 11:12:26 AM
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Considering that most games usually have some kind of hidden message about whatever the devs want, I don't see why not. Also It'll make some people rage hard online so yeah why not.
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IndorilGawain
02/12/22 11:12:44 AM
#49:


Wahh video games are an art form, take them seriously!

wait no not like that!

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TheOtherMike
02/12/22 11:15:39 AM
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ProboBum posted...
I just find it funny that people are saying "it should be up to the creators" yet when the creators DON'T make a political statement in their games, people get butt hurt.

When does this happen?
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