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CelestialVoices
02/11/22 11:05:45 AM
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ie doom 3 : Doom is probably my favorite series. I love pretty much every game, including Doom 3. I know Doom 3 fans are in the minority among the greater Doom fandom but I adore it. I think it's more doom-like than people give it credit for. I'm starting to lose count of how many times I've replayed it, both original and bfg versions and I wish there was more content for it.

what are your favorite games that you feel are underappreciated in their franchise and why do you love them so, ce?

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DarthWendy
02/11/22 11:07:14 AM
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Dead Space 3. Still loved it despite the bollocks.

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AltyMcAltface
02/11/22 11:09:48 AM
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i liked The Bureau: XCOM Declassified

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Sictis
02/11/22 11:10:14 AM
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Dragon Age 2

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Tyranthraxus
02/11/22 11:10:56 AM
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Breath of Fire 5 DQ is a good game that most people just didn't give a fair chance IMO

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Tobi011
02/11/22 11:10:57 AM
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From the top of my head, Guilty Gear 2, Metal Gear Survive, Dawn of War 3, and Fire Emblem Fates.
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Heartomaton
02/11/22 11:11:44 AM
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Shadow the Hedgehog. :l

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Xavier_On_High
02/11/22 11:15:47 AM
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-Final Fantasy VIII. It's the worst of the PS1 Final Fantasy games, but it's still really good.

- Super Mario Sunshine. I had way more fun with it than 64, though 64 is clearly the better game.

- Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter. Maybe the second or third best in the series in my eyes. I loved it.

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TheOnionKnight
02/11/22 11:19:19 AM
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Final Fantasy VIII for sure. That's one of my favorite games.

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0x4B616E6A6F
02/11/22 11:19:47 AM
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FF8
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TheOtherMike
02/11/22 11:35:04 AM
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Definitely FFVIII. Such a terrible game but it's fun as fuck to completely break the Junction system, and Triple Triad alone is worth slogging through the main story.

Also Zelda 2. I just really enjoy it, but admittedly I also grind quite a few levels early on before really diving in, which tends to be boring but makes the mid and late game more manageable.

OG Metroid 2. I played that game so much the maps are permanently burned into my brain. I do also love Samus Returns and AM2R, but I'll always have a soft spot for the original.
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Questionmarktarius
02/11/22 11:40:04 AM
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FFMQ.
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teep_
02/11/22 11:58:04 AM
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FF 13

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Robot2600
02/11/22 11:59:06 AM
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zelda 2
ff8
lufia 1

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Tom Clark
02/11/22 11:59:36 AM
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FF8 is my favourite Final Fantasy game.

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WingsOfGood
02/11/22 11:59:40 AM
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FF8
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RchHomieQuanChi
02/11/22 11:59:40 AM
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Mass Effect 3

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WingsOfGood
02/11/22 12:00:17 PM
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teep_ posted...
FF 13

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EmbraceOfDeath
02/11/22 12:02:42 PM
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Skyward Sword
Fire Emblem Fates

The latter is especially absurd considering what a huge step up the gameplay is from the rest of the series, but people love to cry about "muh animu".

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uwnim
02/11/22 12:03:33 PM
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Final Fantasy II. It is widely regarded as the worst final fantasy due to the design decisions, but I consider it to be a great game.

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DeadBankerDream
02/11/22 12:03:50 PM
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I really like Chain of Memories and the card combat in it.

I often feel very alone.

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Tyranthraxus
02/11/22 12:12:22 PM
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EmbraceOfDeath posted...
Skyward Sword
Fire Emblem Fates

The latter is especially absurd considering what a huge step up the gameplay is from the rest of the series, but people love to cry about "muh animu".

I disagree that the gameplay was a huge step up. It was good but not really all that different from awakening. And the story was nonsensical cringe shit.

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K181
02/11/22 12:14:35 PM
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Zelda 2

I can beat that game by muscle memory from how much I played it as a kid.

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Questionmarktarius
02/11/22 12:47:45 PM
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K181 posted...
I can beat that game by muscle memory from how much I played it as a kid.
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Lairen
02/11/22 12:50:38 PM
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DarthWendy posted...
Dead Space 3. Still loved it despite the bollocks.

Sure its a bad Dead Space game but its an awesome "Build-op-gun" game.

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IShall_Run_Amok
02/11/22 12:51:29 PM
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Does Mega Man 6 count? Its more fun to play than 1, 4 and 5 IMO, and of course 7 and 8 can fuck off.

Also, Portrait of Ruin is my favorite Castlevania. It hits so many of my sweet spots so hard that its shortcomings don't add up, and doesn't have the dealbreaking flaws of the otherwise glorious Symphony of the Night.

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FL81
02/11/22 12:51:31 PM
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DBZ Budokai Tenkaichi 1
Devs were taking a lot of risks trying a new system here, and while it lacked the polish of its sequels, it set up a nice foundation for the series to come (this game got a lot of hate when it first released)

Battlefield Vietnam
Best sniping in the Battlefield series, the vehicle radio function was fun to fuck around with, on certain maps you could just plop a spawn point for the Viet Cong team anywhere

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Lairen
02/11/22 12:52:55 PM
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IShall_Run_Amok posted...
Does Mega Man 6 count? Its more fun to play than 1, 4 and 5 IMO, and of course 7 and 8 can fuck off.

No. Its still too good to be a black sheep. 7 might apply. 8 is still decent. I wish more versions had woodman and cutman....

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CRON
02/11/22 12:53:35 PM
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Just Cause 3 is pretty fun.

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Kuuko
02/11/22 12:54:15 PM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
I really like Chain of Memories and the card combat in it.

I often feel very alone.
This. Well, Re:Chain of Memories. The first time I played it was around when it came out and it didn't "click". Halfway through the game I was exasperated at the card system and just wanted things to be normal again so I skipped to KH2. Years later with the HD Remasters I tried it again and got super into it. Understanding sleights and how easily some sleights can break everything was fun. And counter-intuitively, knowing I can easily progress by falling back on brokenly good sleights relaxed me into experimenting with all the less broken ways you can play the game.

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Senta
02/11/22 12:56:25 PM
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Final Fantasy 8
Suikoden 4
Dragon Age 2
Mass Effect Andromeda

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Xedhadeaus
02/11/22 1:02:47 PM
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RE 6
RE Operation Racoon City

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uwnim
02/11/22 1:08:59 PM
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Kuuko posted...
This. Well, Re:Chain of Memories. The first time I played it was around when it came out and it didn't "click". Halfway through the game I was exasperated at the card system and just wanted things to be normal again so I skipped to KH2. Years later with the HD Remasters I tried it again and got super into it. Understanding sleights and how easily some sleights can break everything was fun. And counter-intuitively, knowing I can easily progress by falling back on brokenly good sleights relaxed me into experimenting with all the less broken ways you can play the game.
I liked CoM, but disliked Re:CoM. Going from 2D to 3D made the card based combat go from easy to use to way too complicated.

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AngelicRadiance
02/11/22 1:12:00 PM
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Sictis posted...
Dragon Age 2

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apocalyptic_4
02/11/22 1:36:07 PM
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Halo 5

My favorite fps of last gen I never really played the other halo games

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Trumble
02/11/22 1:40:59 PM
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Final Fantasy 8
Grandia 3
Lemmings 3D

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Glob
02/11/22 1:43:33 PM
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Onimusha: Dawn of Dreams.
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Quorthon109
02/11/22 1:46:45 PM
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Deus Ex: Invisible War

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IShall_Run_Amok
02/11/22 2:17:10 PM
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Lairen posted...
No. Its still too good to be a black sheep. 7 might apply. 8 is still decent. I wish more versions had woodman and cutman....
I always assumed it was the black sheep of the six on the NES, in any case, but I guess I don't have any real basis for this.

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Glob
02/11/22 2:44:56 PM
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Quorthon109 posted...
Deus Ex: Invisible War

Really?

It's not just that it's bad. The other games in the series so good that even a game that's okay would be shit in comparison.
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Tyranthraxus
02/11/22 2:51:32 PM
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Invisible War isn't even a bad game compared to other rail shooters at the time. It's just essentially one of those universally reviled FPS titles from a series whose genre wasn't FPS

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SugarFlakes
02/11/22 2:53:04 PM
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Star Ocean 4 is one of my favorite games.

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Ivany2008
02/11/22 3:09:23 PM
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Tales of Legendia, Final Fantasy Mystic Quest, SMB 2
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Quorthon109
02/11/22 3:11:21 PM
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Glob posted...
Really?

It's not just that it's bad. The other games in the series so good that even a game that's okay would be shit in comparison.

Yeah, take Deus Ex out of the title and I dont think itd be looked upon as poorly. I had no frame of reference because I played Invisible War first, and it became one of those nostalgic games that I played and replayed a lot in my early teens. No argument from me that its just a worse Deus Ex but I still think it was a great game for its time, especially for someone like me back then who was only playing on consoles.

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SSJPurple
02/11/22 3:34:57 PM
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DS2 SoTFS

Ratchet & Clank: Going Commando


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Funkydog
02/11/22 3:35:44 PM
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Sictis posted...
Dragon Age 2


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Joelypoely
02/11/22 3:36:17 PM
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FF8 is considered a black sheep? I legitimately preferred it over 7 and 9. Surely the true black sheep would be X-2 or 12?

Tough question in general, the only games which come to mind are Fable 3 and Worms 4: Mayhem.

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UnholyMudcrab
02/11/22 3:36:49 PM
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Dragon Age 2 and Dark Souls 2

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