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And they believe it's the word of God because it says so in the Bible?

well yes, and it must be true because god wrote it.

The concept of religion is believing something because of your faith.

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It's possible to believe...both...crazy I know.

The Bible is the worst game of telephone in the world.

I believe in the napkin god because it says he exists right here on this napkin

Weird how you religion bashers only mention Christians.

so its like an infinite loop of ignorance...

Vyrulisse posted...

Weird how you religion bashers only mention Christians.

Yeah, it's so weird that people who dislike religion most often mention the overwhelmingly dominant religion around them. You cracked the code!

Vyrulisse posted...

Weird how you religion bashers only mention Christians.

What's even weirder is they don't seem to acknowledge that bashing Christianity is also, in a way, bashing Judaism since half the religion is based off the Old Testament.

Vyrulisse posted...

Weird how you religion bashers only mention Christians.

most people here live in america, and as our politicians love to say this is a christian nation. is it so strange to bitch about the crazies from the predominant religion?

but hey, we definitely bash other religions too. normally physically though, have a relative who almost had his head caved in with a bat because he "looked like a rag head"...

Vyrulisse posted...

Weird how you religion bashers only mention Christians.

Its almost like most of us come from countries where Christianity is the most prevalent religion.

For what its worth, the moment people try pushing shitty, regressive laws or governmental policy in the name of Zoroastrian values in my country, I will issue a complete and genuine apology for making fun of Christianity.

Caution999 posted...

The concept of religion is believing something because of your faith.

It's possible to believe...both...crazy I know.

no it is not. science it totally incompatible with bad fantasy novels.

Vyrulisse posted...

Weird how you religion bashers only mention Christians.

All religion is stupid. Happy?

Robot2600 posted...

no it is not. science it totally incompatible with bad fantasy novels.

It's not. What started the big bang? You can place a God in there anyway you want if you're creative.

Caution999 posted...

What's even weirder is they don't seem to acknowledge that bashing Christianity is also, in a way, bashing Judaism since half the religion is based off the Old Testament.

Trust me, we know exactly what we are bashing.

Caution999 posted...

It's not. What started the big bang? You can place a God in there anyway you want if you're creative.

"God of the gaps" is absolutely incompatible with science.

Caution999 posted...

It's possible to believe...both...crazy I know.

Ya, no.

I already know this is useless to say to religious types but "I believe fully in science" falls apart the moment you also believe in the unscientific things that come out of religion.

Saying something is real purely on faith alone goes against science.

Caution999 posted...

It's not. What started the big bang? You can place a God in there anyway you want if you're creative.

The correct answer is we dont know, and theres no evidence it was done by god so thats the wrong answer. This is a really dumb argument

Kloe_Rinz posted...

The correct answer is we dont know, and theres no evidence it was done by god so thats the wrong answer. This is a really dumb argument

So you can't...disprove God did it? I mean, I'm not saying a God did either...but it cannot be disproven or proven? Our planet could've also been terra-formed by an alien species for all we know. Anything is possible

Caution999 posted...

So you can't...disprove God did it? I mean, I'm not saying a God did either...but it cannot be disproven or proven? Our planet could've also been terra-formed by an alien species for all we know. Anything is possible

Thats not what science is. Thats not how any of this works.

Caution999 posted...

So you can't...disprove God did it? I mean, I'm not saying a God did either...but it cannot be disproven or proven? Our planet could've also been terra-formed by an alien species for all we know. Anything is possible

Reaching those conclusions without evidence to support them is objectively unscientific. You can't make shit up and call it compatible with science.

Caution999 posted...

So you can't...disprove God did it? I mean, I'm not saying a God did either...but it cannot be disproven or proven? Our planet could've also been terra-formed by an alien species for all we know. Anything is possible

You just named the biggest reason religion and science are incompatible with each other, science can be falsified while religious beliefs can't.

Caution999 posted...

So you can't...disprove God did it? I mean, I'm not saying a God did either...but it cannot be disproven or proven? Our planet could've also been terra-formed by an alien species for all we know. Anything is possible

It just seems like you don't understand how science works.

Caution999 posted...

It's not. What started the big bang? You can place a God in there anyway you want if you're creative.

That's not science it's just baseless speculation.

What's absolutely incompatible with science is that the earth has edges, rain comes from holes in the firmament and bats are birds

I'm not saying a belief in God has to follow the scientific method. I'm saying a religious person can both be religious and believe in science. You guys are over-evaluating my posts.

Caution999 posted...

The concept of religion is believing something because of your faith.

It's possible to believe...both...crazy I know.

Actually, no, you really can't. The scientific method is about the application of skepticism and the reliance of observable facts and repeatable experiments to create hard data that can then be analyzed to reach a conclusion. Literally the antitheses of blind faith believing...

Accolon posted...

And they believe it's the word of God because it says so in the Bible?

Christians believe in faith, not the Bible.

I have seen scientists who believe in god. Not in person but youtube or varuius articles and stuff. Its not common but they are definitely out there.

buddhamonster posted...

Actually, no, you really can't. The scientific method is about the application of skepticism and the reliance of observable facts and repeatable experiments to create hard data that can then be analyzed to reach a conclusion. Literally the antitheses of blind faith believing...

This.

Like I get what you are attempting to get at Caution999, where one selectively believes in science..... but the two fundamentally contradict each other.

A person of faith selectively believes in science that doesn't shatter their faith. To say they believe I'm both is simply not accurate and for the lack of a better word, disingenuous.

Having faith in God or anything else does not mean you are anti-science. The people saying or implying otherwise are simply wrong and are frankly insulting all religious people.

Caution999 posted...

What's even weirder is they don't seem to acknowledge that bashing Christianity is also, in a way, bashing Judaism since half the religion is based off the Old Testament.

ill bash both but at the end of the day one thing I appreciate about Judaism is that they encourage you to ask questions. They want you to be thoughtful. When I asked questions about Catholicism growing up it was usually met with anger or answered with it just is

Caution999 posted...

I'm saying a religious person can both be religious and believe in science

They can chooseto hold entirely contradictory beliefs but in reality every religion presents at its core what's been proven to be false

Shishiwakamaru posted...

Having faith in God or anything else does not mean you are anti-science. The people saying or implying otherwise are simply wrong and are frankly insulting all religious people.

It inherently does. Belief in god means you deny one of the most fundamental rules of our universe which is that you cannot create or destroy energy.

Caution999 posted...

I'm not saying a belief in God has to follow the scientific method. I'm saying a religious person can both be religious and believe in science. You guys are over-evaluating my posts.

you can also eat meat while identifying as a vegetarian

Also, stop saying people BELIEVE in science or can BELIEVE in both science and religion.

Science is NOT a belief system and people don't believe in science.

asdf8562 posted...

This.

Like I get what you are attempting to get at Caution999, where one selectively believes in science..... but the two fundamentally contradict each other.

A person of faith selectively believes in science that doesn't shatter their faith. To say they believe I'm both is simply not accurate and for the lack of a better word, disingenuous.

I understand the contradictions, but all I am saying is an individual can be the best scientist on this planet, but in their downtime have religious beliefs. As long as they're able to separate both when they're doing their work...people like this....exist. I've met them.

DD Divine posted...

ill bash both but at the end of the day one thing I appreciate about Judaism is that they encourage you to ask questions. They want you to be thoughtful. When I asked questions about Catholicism growing up it was usually met with anger or answered with it just is

This is highly anecdotal. Do you think everyone has the same experience with Christianity or whatever sect of Christianity did this to you? I'm sorry this was your experience, but it wasn't mine.

DD Divine posted...

ill bash both but at the end of the day one thing I appreciate about Judaism is that they encourage you to ask questions. They want you to be thoughtful. When I asked questions about Catholicism growing up it was usually met with anger or answered with it just is

Who is they? Right now you are talking about differences in denominations and even differences in regions/clergy and individuals. Just imagine the difference being taught about religion by a lead pastor of a megachurch vs. Maimonides. And Im sure the pastor has a much bigger following as well.

BTW there is nothing wrong with picking and choosing your religious beliefs. I think ultimately you need to find your own religion or lack thereof for yourself because that is the only way to really think critically about these things.

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i dont know most christians, i do know a lot of born again christians though, and that is absolutely the shit they preach.

The bible is multiple books.

Your op is in error.

Christians believe the new texts are valid because they believe the older texts had fulfilled prophecy and the newer texts also fulfilled prophecy.

Between the last old testament book to the first new testament one is about 500-1000 years. I don't recall the number off the top of my head.

Kloe_Rinz posted...

It inherently does. Belief in god means you deny one of the most fundamental rules of our universe which is that you cannot create or destroy energy.

Wonderful, you have just disproved all religion.

Not really of course. A very simple response to this is that God must exist outside of the rules of the universe while the universe itself obviously must follow them. That isnt a very controversial claim. If you dont agree with it OK, but stop attacking people who do.

People with faith can and often do, believe in Darwinism, Big Bang, relativity, etc, etc, etc. They just see a grand design rather than chance. Its really not that difficult. Likemathematics is the language of God sort of stuff. 7 days could have encompassed millions or billions of yearslike that. I get that its easier to ridicule if you believe all Christians dont believe dinosaurs existed or Noahs ark is out there somewhere, but not all are like thatsome are, but not all.

Caution999 posted...

I understand the contradictions, but all I am saying is an individual can be the best scientist on this planet, but in their downtime have religious beliefs. As long as they're able to separate both when they're doing their work...people like this....exist. I've met them.

Yes, they can exist with their selective mindset, but it doesn't change they fundamentally contradict.

Just like one can be a vegetarian and still eat meat.

Religion is like believing in bigfoot.

Sayoria posted...

Religion is like believing in bigfoot.

Religion exists, bigfoot doesnt. ?

WingsOfGood posted...

The bible is multiple books.

Your op is in error.

Christians believe the new texts are valid because they believe the older texts had fulfilled prophecy and the newer texts also fulfilled prophecy.

Between the last old testament book to the first new testament one is about 500-1000 years. I don't recall the number off the top of my head.

Any Christian church that accepts the old testament and thinks the the new testament is alive as opposed to... dead(Calvinism might say that parts of the old testament have already been confirmed)...?