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CoorsLight 02/10/22 6:39:05 PM #51:	Like I'm not an expert on paralysis but isn't it in most cases caused by severed connections of the spine? Techbros just think you can put a computer in everything and then watch it do magic <cite>CoorsLight posted [p:962542349] in Elon Musk'... [t:79893469]...</cite> <quote>Like I'm not an expert on paralysis but isn't it in most cases caused by severed connections of the spine? Techbros just think you can put a computer in everything and then watch it do magic </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Krojen 02/10/22 6:40:17 PM #52:	Pepys Monster posted... I'm vegan. You're why I only said most lol --- http://i.imgur.com/hI4hAMb.jpg <cite>Krojen posted [p:962542378] in Elon Musk'... [t:79893469]...</cite> <quote>Pepys Monster posted... </cite> <quote>I'm vegan.</quote>You're why I only said most lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 02/10/22 6:40:27 PM #53:	CoorsLight posted... Like I'm not an expert on paralysis but isn't it in most cases caused by severed connections of the spine? Techbros just think you can put a computer in everything and then watch it do magic I mean, the point is to bypass the spine. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:962542384] in Elon Musk'... [t:79893469]...</cite> <quote>CoorsLight posted... </cite> <quote>Like I'm not an expert on paralysis but isn't it in most cases caused by severed connections of the spine? Techbros just think you can put a computer in everything and then watch it do magic</quote> I mean, the point is to bypass the spine. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gwynevere 02/10/22 6:40:38 PM #54:	This is uhhh Incredibly fucked up. That's about the friendliest way I can say it --- A hunter is a hunter...even in a dream <cite>Gwynevere posted [p:962542393] in Elon Musk'... [t:79893469]...</cite> <quote>This is uhhh Incredibly fucked up. That's about the friendliest way I can say it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
apocalyptic_4 02/10/22 6:41:18 PM #55:	And so begins the rise of the planet of the apes --- XBL: Mrpicardbottoms PSN: Bosh369 <cite>apocalyptic_4 posted [p:962542418] in Elon Musk'... [t:79893469]...</cite> <quote>And so begins the rise of the planet of the apes </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CoorsLight 02/10/22 6:45:20 PM #56:	COVxy posted... I mean, the point is to bypass the spine. Okay, so are there going to be some kind of muscle implants too? They've already done tons of research into this, and successfully have bypassed the spine (to an extent) without some invasive implant to the most vital and vulnerable part of the body. It seems like the real challenge is getting people to walk without some cumbersome mechanical harness, not sticking a chip in their head. As for the increasing intelligence, that's some dystopian shit <cite>CoorsLight posted [p:962542523] in Elon Musk'... [t:79893469]...</cite> <quote>COVxy posted... </cite> <quote>I mean, the point is to bypass the spine.</quote> Okay, so are there going to be some kind of muscle implants too? They've already done tons of research into this, and successfully have bypassed the spine (to an extent) without some invasive implant to the most vital and vulnerable part of the body. It seems like the real challenge is getting people to walk without some cumbersome mechanical harness, not sticking a chip in their head. As for the increasing intelligence, that's some dystopian shit </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Naysaspace 02/10/22 6:47:01 PM #57:	Jesus christ, Musk is an emotionless sociopath --- https://i.imgur.com/XQlpQEo.png <cite>Naysaspace posted [p:962542563] in Elon Musk'... [t:79893469]...</cite> <quote>Jesus christ, Musk is an emotionless sociopath </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
garan 02/10/22 6:52:00 PM #58:	EmbraceOfDeath posted... Since it's clearly safe and he did no wrong, Musk can demonstrate by having the procedures done on himself. That's the type of justice I'd like to see. <cite>garan posted [p:962542696] in Elon Musk'... [t:79893469]...</cite> <quote>EmbraceOfDeath posted...</cite> <quote>Since it's clearly safe and he did no wrong, Musk can demonstrate by having the procedures done on himself.</quote> That's the type of justice I'd like to see.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 02/10/22 6:52:11 PM #59:	CoorsLight posted... Okay, so are there going to be some kind of muscle implants too? They've already done tons of research into this, and successfully have bypassed the spine (to an extent) without some invasive implant to the most vital and vulnerable part of the body. It seems like the real challenge is getting people to walk without some cumbersome mechanical harness, not sticking a chip in their head. Nah, the idea of using this type of system to restore function in spinal cord injuries is pretty solid, and the research has been going on for decades. The primary issue is mostly keeping an implant in the brain without leading to degradation of the electrode contacts, and without of degradation of neural tissue. These are things Musk's electrode arrays could actually help with. But it's pretty much the only reasonable prospective use, so there's that. Everything else he says about it is bullshit. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:962542704] in Elon Musk'... [t:79893469]...</cite> <quote>CoorsLight posted... </cite> <quote>Okay, so are there going to be some kind of muscle implants too? They've already done tons of research into this, and successfully have bypassed the spine (to an extent) without some invasive implant to the most vital and vulnerable part of the body. It seems like the real challenge is getting people to walk without some cumbersome mechanical harness, not sticking a chip in their head.</quote> Nah, the idea of using this type of system to restore function in spinal cord injuries is pretty solid, and the research has been going on for decades. The primary issue is mostly keeping an implant in the brain without leading to degradation of the electrode contacts, and without of degradation of neural tissue. These are things Musk's electrode arrays could actually help with. But it's pretty much the only reasonable prospective use, so there's that. Everything else he says about it is bullshit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
knightmarexx 02/10/22 6:52:45 PM #60:	Pepys Monster posted... I'm vegan. But you're using a PC, and thus power, and plastic. Not really animal conscious. You've just said you'd sacrificed the advancements we've made in neurology, through animal testing - that have directly contributed to children being able to walk, see and survive to adulthood - if a few more animals can survive. Yet you're using a PC, which DIRECTLY causes plastic pollution in the Sea, and causes 100 million marine animals die each year from plastic waste. The power, you use to power your PC, causes 11.6 million birds a year die each year* so that you can power your grids, and cities. https://www.condorferries.co.uk/marine-ocean-pollution-statistics-facts https://www.nwf.org/Home/Magazines/National-Wildlife/2021/ Feb-Mar/Animals/Eagles-and-Powerlines <cite>knightmarexx posted [p:962542712] in Elon Musk'... [t:79893469]...</cite> <quote>Pepys Monster posted... </cite> <quote>I'm vegan.</quote> But you're using a PC, and thus power, and plastic. Not really animal conscious. You've just said you'd sacrificed the advancements we've made in neurology, through animal testing - that have directly contributed to children being able to walk, see and survive to adulthood - if a few more animals can survive. Yet you're using a PC, which DIRECTLY causes plastic pollution in the Sea, and causes 100 million marine animals die each year from plastic waste. The power, you use to power your PC, causes 11.6 million birds a year die each year** so that you can power your grids, and cities. https://www.condorferries.co.uk/marine-ocean-pollution-statistics-facts *https://www.nwf.org/Home/Magazines/National-Wildlife/2021/ Feb-Mar/Animals/Eagles-and-Powerlines </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gwynevere 02/10/22 7:00:03 PM #62:	knightmarexx posted... But you're using a PC, and thus power, and plastic. Not really animal conscious. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/0/9/AAUbfNAACVEx.jpg --- A hunter is a hunter...even in a dream <cite>Gwynevere posted [p:962542901] in Elon Musk'... [t:79893469]...</cite> <quote>knightmarexx posted... </cite> <quote>But you're using a PC, and thus power, and plastic. Not really animal conscious. </quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/0/9/AAUbfNAACVEx.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Humble_Novice 02/10/22 7:02:33 PM #63:	https://twitter.com/ajplus/status/1491827050398765064 <cite>Humble_Novice posted [p:962542986] in Elon Musk'... [t:79893469]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/ajplus/status/1491827050398765064 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zero_Destroyer 02/10/22 7:04:30 PM #64:	Gwynevere posted... https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/0/9/AAUbfNAACVEx.jpg --- Enjoy movies and television? Check out my blog! I do reviews and analyses. http://fictionrantreview.wordpress.com/ (The Force Awakens spoiler review up!) <cite>Zero_Destroyer posted [p:962543037] in Elon Musk'... [t:79893469]...</cite> <quote>Gwynevere posted... </cite> <quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/0/9/AAUbfNAACVEx.jpg</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DEKMStephens 02/10/22 7:32:55 PM #66:	A reality is that for such a technology to ever work stuff like this will have to happen to animals. That said? I am sure the technology isn't even ready to be tested and Musk threw money at it to force it forward. --- ----- ------- <cite>DEKMStephens posted [p:962543796] in Elon Musk'... [t:79893469]...</cite> <quote>A reality is that for such a technology to ever work stuff like this will have to happen to animals. That said? I am sure the technology isn't even ready to be tested and Musk threw money at it to force it forward. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Perthboy 02/10/22 7:54:13 PM #67:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] iv> <cite>Perthboy posted [p:962544321] in Elon Musk'... [t:79893469]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> iv></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giblet_Enjoyer 02/10/22 7:57:11 PM #68:	Nemu posted... I'd sacrifice ten thousand monkeys to extreme suffering and pain to let a single paralyzed child walk again. Very plebian and rube-like thinking. I'm sure you'd also sacrifice the same number of people who are not the same race as you to help one person who was. --- He which make friends with scorpion, soon come to find out what a scorpion does - they bite people with its tail --ancient Chinese proverb <cite>Giblet_Enjoyer posted [p:962544399] in Elon Musk'... [t:79893469]...</cite> <quote>Nemu posted... </cite> <quote>I'd sacrifice ten thousand monkeys to extreme suffering and pain to let a single paralyzed child walk again.</quote>Very plebian and rube-like thinking. I'm sure you'd also sacrifice the same number of people who are not the same race as you to help one person who was. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giblet_Enjoyer 02/10/22 7:58:30 PM #69:	COVxy posted... It's bullshit, and they've done serious damage to the progress of science. Lol no they haven't, most people are unfortunately just like you and simply don't care. And if they have, that's a good thing. --- He which make friends with scorpion, soon come to find out what a scorpion does - they bite people with its tail --ancient Chinese proverb <cite>Giblet_Enjoyer posted [p:962544433] in Elon Musk'... [t:79893469]...</cite> <quote>COVxy posted... </cite> <quote>It's bullshit, and they've done serious damage to the progress of science.</quote>Lol no they haven't, most people are unfortunately just like you and simply don't care. And if they have, that's a good thing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nexigrams 02/10/22 7:58:55 PM #70:	I'm a pretty big softee for animals, but I honestly don't give a shit if it leads to even a fraction of what he's promising. It's kinda the same thing with the meat industry, right? There's a certain primordial part of my brain that just really doesn't fucking care if enhances my life even a little. --- http://imgur.com/SYiqIRC <cite>nexigrams posted [p:962544445] in Elon Musk'... [t:79893469]...</cite> <quote>I'm a pretty big softee for animals, but I honestly don't give a shit if it leads to even a fraction of what he's promising. It's kinda the same thing with the meat industry, right? There's a certain primordial part of my brain that just really doesn't fucking care if enhances my life even a little. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Starks 02/10/22 8:01:17 PM #71:	Musk should stick to his Starship presentation in an hour. At least that's going to work. All this bullshit with robots and cybertrucks and neuralink is just not going anywhere. But I'm not surprised that neuralink is torturing monkeys like this. Or pigs for that matter. They see it as just cracking a few eggs to make an omelet and that's the wrong approach --- Paid for by StarksPAC, a registered 501(c)(4) <cite>Starks posted [p:962544506] in Elon Musk'... [t:79893469]...</cite> <quote>Musk should stick to his Starship presentation in an hour. At least that's going to work. All this bullshit with robots and cybertrucks and neuralink is just not going anywhere. But I'm not surprised that neuralink is torturing monkeys like this. Or pigs for that matter. They see it as just cracking a few eggs to make an omelet and that's the wrong approach</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 02/10/22 8:02:12 PM #72:	Giblet_Enjoyer posted... Lol no they haven't, most people are unfortunately just like you and simply don't care. Yes, yes they have. Non-human primate research is in serious decline because no university will risk the publicity anymore. Animal rights activists have destroyed people's careers, entire fields of research. A recent case: https://www.science.org/content/article/animal-rights-conflict-prompts-leading-researcher-leave-germany-china Giblet_Enjoyer posted... And if they have, that's a good thing. No, science is good. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:962544523] in Elon Musk'... [t:79893469]...</cite> <quote>Giblet_Enjoyer posted... </cite> <quote>Lol no they haven't, most people are unfortunately just like you and simply don't care.</quote> Yes, yes they have. Non-human primate research is in serious decline because no university will risk the publicity anymore. Animal rights activists have destroyed people's careers, entire fields of research. A recent case: https://www.science.org/content/article/animal-rights-conflict-prompts-leading-researcher-leave-germany-china Giblet_Enjoyer posted... </cite> <quote>And if they have, that's a good thing.</quote> No, science is good. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Giblet_Enjoyer 02/10/22 8:04:09 PM #74:	knightmarexx posted... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirvana_fallacy --- He which make friends with scorpion, soon come to find out what a scorpion does - they bite people with its tail --ancient Chinese proverb <cite>Giblet_Enjoyer posted [p:962544572] in Elon Musk'... [t:79893469]...</cite> <quote><quote>knightmarexx posted... </cite></quote> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirvana_fallacy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nemu 02/10/22 8:04:19 PM #75:	Giblet_Enjoyer posted... Very plebian and rube-like thinking. I'm sure you'd also sacrifice the same number of people who are not the same race as you to help one person who was. Please tell me you're a troll because making the death defying leap of logic over the damn Grand Canyon to arrive at fucking eugenics is a bit much. <cite>Nemu posted [p:962544577] in Elon Musk'... [t:79893469]...</cite> <quote>Giblet_Enjoyer posted... </cite> <quote>Very plebian and rube-like thinking. I'm sure you'd also sacrifice the same number of people who are not the same race as you to help one person who was.</quote>Please tell me you're a troll because making the death defying leap of logic over the damn Grand Canyon to arrive at fucking eugenics is a bit much. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1337toothbrush 02/10/22 8:06:11 PM #76:	Is there a better way of carrying out this research? --- https://imgur.com/a/FU9H8 - https://i.imgur.com/ZkQRDsR.png - https://i.imgur.com/2x2gtgP.jpg <cite>1337toothbrush posted [p:962544617] in Elon Musk'... [t:79893469]...</cite> <quote>Is there a better way of carrying out this research? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giblet_Enjoyer 02/10/22 8:07:22 PM #77:	COVxy posted... No, science is good. Unit 731 was good then? I mean science is always good. COVxy posted... Animal rights activists have destroyed people's careers, entire fields of research. And that's a good thing! Nemu posted... Please tell me you're a troll because making the death defying leap of logic over the damn Grand Canyon to arrive at fucking eugenics is a bit much. No fundamental moral difference and you know your thinking is no different from racism. One is simply considered kosher currently and the other is not. --- He which make friends with scorpion, soon come to find out what a scorpion does - they bite people with its tail --ancient Chinese proverb <cite>Giblet_Enjoyer posted [p:962544644] in Elon Musk'... [t:79893469]...</cite> <quote>COVxy posted... </cite> <quote>No, science is good.</quote>Unit 731 was good then? I mean science is always good. COVxy posted... </cite> <quote>Animal rights activists have destroyed people's careers, entire fields of research.</quote>And that's a good thing! Nemu posted... </cite> <quote>Please tell me you're a troll because making the death defying leap of logic over the damn Grand Canyon to arrive at fucking eugenics is a bit much.</quote>No fundamental moral difference and you know your thinking is no different from racism. One is simply considered kosher currently and the other is not. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 02/10/22 8:09:12 PM #78:	Giblet_Enjoyer posted... One is simply considered kosher currently and the other is not. Please keep my people's ideas out of your dumbass arguments. --- http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:962544691] in Elon Musk'... [t:79893469]...</cite> <quote>Giblet_Enjoyer posted... </cite> <quote>One is simply considered kosher currently and the other is not.</quote>Please keep my people's ideas out of your dumbass arguments. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giblet_Enjoyer 02/10/22 8:09:58 PM #79:	DrizztLink posted... Please keep my people's ideas out of your dumbass arguments. Lol sorry I didn't mean to offend actual eugenicists --- He which make friends with scorpion, soon come to find out what a scorpion does - they bite people with its tail --ancient Chinese proverb <cite>Giblet_Enjoyer posted [p:962544716] in Elon Musk'... [t:79893469]...</cite> <quote>DrizztLink posted... </cite> <quote>Please keep my people's ideas out of your dumbass arguments.</quote>Lol sorry I didn't mean to offend actual eugenicists </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nemu 02/10/22 8:10:13 PM #80:	OK, clear troll. That's fine. <cite>Nemu posted [p:962544725] in Elon Musk'... [t:79893469]...</cite> <quote>OK, clear troll. That's fine. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 02/10/22 8:10:15 PM #81:	Giblet_Enjoyer posted... Let me ask you a very simple question: do you denounce all animal research as evil? --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:962544727] in Elon Musk'... [t:79893469]...</cite> <quote>Giblet_Enjoyer posted... </cite> Let me ask you a very simple question: do you denounce all animal research as evil? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeoRavus 02/10/22 8:10:21 PM #82:	Elon watches too many movies and I've seen this one. No one needs this. How will a brain chip help a paralyzed person walk again anyway? It's gonna fix the physical damage that caused the paralysis? "Damn my spinal cord is severed. Drill holes in my brain man, that'll do it". --- This is where cool people write stuff. <cite>LeoRavus posted [p:962544732] in Elon Musk'... [t:79893469]...</cite> <quote>Elon watches too many movies and I've seen this one. No one needs this. How will a brain chip help a paralyzed person walk again anyway? It's gonna fix the physical damage that caused the paralysis? "Damn my spinal cord is severed. Drill holes in my brain man, that'll do it". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 02/10/22 8:11:05 PM #83:	Giblet_Enjoyer posted... Lol sorry I didn't mean to offend actual eugenicists Call the Jewish guy a eugenicist. It's a bold strategy, Cotton. --- http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:962544754] in Elon Musk'... [t:79893469]...</cite> <quote>Giblet_Enjoyer posted... </cite> <quote>Lol sorry I didn't mean to offend actual eugenicists</quote>Call the Jewish guy a eugenicist. It's a bold strategy, Cotton. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giblet_Enjoyer 02/10/22 8:12:26 PM #84:	COVxy posted... Let me ask you a very simple question: do you denounce all animal research as evil? That's a silly question, not all animal research is harmful to animals. You shouldn't even have considered such a ridiculous question. --- He which make friends with scorpion, soon come to find out what a scorpion does - they bite people with its tail --ancient Chinese proverb <cite>Giblet_Enjoyer posted [p:962544787] in Elon Musk'... [t:79893469]...</cite> <quote>COVxy posted... </cite> <quote>Let me ask you a very simple question: do you denounce all animal research as evil?</quote>That's a silly question, not all animal research is harmful to animals. You shouldn't even have considered such a ridiculous question. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1337toothbrush 02/10/22 8:14:11 PM #85:	DrizztLink posted... Call the Jewish guy a eugenicist. It's a bold strategy, Cotton. Jews can't be eugenicists? Just look at Israel. --- https://imgur.com/a/FU9H8 - https://i.imgur.com/ZkQRDsR.png - https://i.imgur.com/2x2gtgP.jpg <cite>1337toothbrush posted [p:962544840] in Elon Musk'... [t:79893469]...</cite> <quote>DrizztLink posted... </cite> <quote>Call the Jewish guy a eugenicist. It's a bold strategy, Cotton.</quote>Jews can't be eugenicists? Just look at Israel. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CRON 02/10/22 8:14:50 PM #86:	Elon Musk is a pathetic douchebag and the same can be said about his insufferable fans. --- [obligatory signature] <cite>CRON posted [p:962544859] in Elon Musk'... [t:79893469]...</cite> <quote>Elon Musk is a pathetic douchebag and the same can be said about his insufferable fans. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giblet_Enjoyer 02/10/22 8:15:21 PM #87:	DrizztLink posted... Call the Jewish guy a eugenicist. It's a bold strategy, Cotton. Ah you got upset by the word "kosher". Well I'm happy to inform you that Abrahamic law isn't actually an idea, but a mindless dogma so I didn't actually make use of any of "your people's" ideas. Cool identity politics horseshit nonsense though, very fashionable. --- He which make friends with scorpion, soon come to find out what a scorpion does - they bite people with its tail --ancient Chinese proverb <cite>Giblet_Enjoyer posted [p:962544871] in Elon Musk'... [t:79893469]...</cite> <quote>DrizztLink posted... </cite> <quote>Call the Jewish guy a eugenicist. It's a bold strategy, Cotton.</quote>Ah you got upset by the word "kosher". Well I'm happy to inform you that Abrahamic law isn't actually an idea, but a mindless dogma so I didn't actually make use of any of "your people's" ideas. Cool identity politics horseshit nonsense though, very fashionable. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giblet_Enjoyer 02/10/22 8:15:50 PM #88:	1337toothbrush posted... Jews can't be eugenicists? Just look at Israel. Also this --- He which make friends with scorpion, soon come to find out what a scorpion does - they bite people with its tail --ancient Chinese proverb <cite>Giblet_Enjoyer posted [p:962544884] in Elon Musk'... [t:79893469]...</cite> <quote>1337toothbrush posted... </cite> <quote>Jews can't be eugenicists? Just look at Israel.</quote>Also this </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CRON 02/10/22 8:17:16 PM #89:	How the hell does a topic about Elon Musk turn into Jews? --- [obligatory signature] <cite>CRON posted [p:962544922] in Elon Musk'... [t:79893469]...</cite> <quote>How the hell does a topic about Elon Musk turn into Jews? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 02/10/22 8:17:23 PM #90:	Giblet_Enjoyer posted... Also this I wasn't aware I called myself Israeli. --- http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:962544924] in Elon Musk'... [t:79893469]...</cite> <quote>Giblet_Enjoyer posted... </cite> <quote>Also this</quote>I wasn't aware I called myself Israeli. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 02/10/22 8:19:22 PM #91:	Giblet_Enjoyer posted... That's a silly question, not all animal research is harmful to animals. You shouldn't even have considered such a ridiculous question. That's a silly dodge. Are you against all invasive animal research? --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:962544978] in Elon Musk'... [t:79893469]...</cite> <quote>Giblet_Enjoyer posted... </cite> <quote>That's a silly question, not all animal research is harmful to animals. You shouldn't even have considered such a ridiculous question.</quote> That's a silly dodge. Are you against all invasive animal research? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giblet_Enjoyer 02/10/22 8:19:56 PM #92:	CRON posted... How the hell does a topic about Elon Musk turn into Jews? Good question, might as well segue it into a circumcision debate though since we're already on that track anyhow. Circumcising babies is abuse and the hygiene argument is made by filthy bastards who have never heard of soap --- He which make friends with scorpion, soon come to find out what a scorpion does - they bite people with its tail --ancient Chinese proverb <cite>Giblet_Enjoyer posted [p:962544987] in Elon Musk'... [t:79893469]...</cite> <quote>CRON posted... </cite> <quote>How the hell does a topic about Elon Musk turn into Jews?</quote>Good question, might as well segue it into a circumcision debate though since we're already on that track anyhow. Circumcising babies is abuse and the hygiene argument is made by filthy bastards who have never heard of soap </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giblet_Enjoyer 02/10/22 8:23:24 PM #93:	COVxy posted... That's a silly dodge. You asked if I'm against animal research and you just assume we're both thinking of invasive brain surgery and shit? How about you try to debate in good faith instead of attacking me for not knowing your thoughts better than your text. --- He which make friends with scorpion, soon come to find out what a scorpion does - they bite people with its tail --ancient Chinese proverb <cite>Giblet_Enjoyer posted [p:962545088] in Elon Musk'... [t:79893469]...</cite> <quote>COVxy posted... </cite> <quote>That's a silly dodge. </quote>You asked if I'm against animal research and you just assume we're both thinking of invasive brain surgery and shit? How about you try to debate in good faith instead of attacking me for not knowing your thoughts better than your text. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Giblet_Enjoyer 02/10/22 8:25:05 PM #95:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] It's very easy to be fair. He's a clown, and a humorless one at that (bad combo if you ask me) --- He which make friends with scorpion, soon come to find out what a scorpion does - they bite people with its tail --ancient Chinese proverb <cite>Giblet_Enjoyer posted [p:962545127] in Elon Musk'... [t:79893469]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> It's very easy to be fair. He's a clown, and a humorless one at that (bad combo if you ask me) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 02/10/22 8:26:35 PM #96:	Giblet_Enjoyer posted... You asked if I'm against animal research and you just assume we're both thinking of invasive brain surgery and shit? How about you try to debate in good faith instead of attacking me for not knowing your thoughts better than your text. There's very very very little animal research that's noninvasive. Mostly because then there's no reason to use a nonhuman animal. Can just do the research in humans. Like, we're pretty much only talking about ecology, where you simply track and observe animals. That's an extremely small portion of research. So, no, the assumption was that you knew what you were talking about. Sorry bout that. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:962545169] in Elon Musk'... [t:79893469]...</cite> <quote>Giblet_Enjoyer posted... </cite> <quote>You asked if I'm against animal research and you just assume we're both thinking of invasive brain surgery and shit? How about you try to debate in good faith instead of attacking me for not knowing your thoughts better than your text.</quote> There's very very very little animal research that's noninvasive. Mostly because then there's no reason to use a nonhuman animal. Can just do the research in humans. Like, we're pretty much only talking about ecology, where you simply track and observe animals. That's an extremely small portion of research. So, no, the assumption was that you knew what you were talking about. Sorry bout that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
g980 02/10/22 8:29:55 PM #97:	another instance of CE's alt left fighting against science how dare billionaires push forward space travel or try to cure paralysis --- These old bones live to learn her wanton ways: (I measure time by how a body sways). <cite>g980 posted [p:962545265] in Elon Musk'... [t:79893469]...</cite> <quote>another instance of CE's alt left fighting against science how dare billionaires push forward space travel or try to cure paralysis</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nemu 02/10/22 8:32:53 PM #98:	g980 posted... another instance of CE's alt left fighting against science how dare billionaires push forward space travel or try to cure paralysis Elon is a vaporware merchant who has done pretty much nothing that has actually had any real merit whatsoever. Every major promise is unfulfilled, and he has no clue as to what he's talking about most of the time. The most he's done is repackage existing tech and then fail on his promises to revolutionize them. So this would be stupid criticism of a proper study, but it's likely proper criticism of anything he has his hands in. <cite>Nemu posted [p:962545341] in Elon Musk'... [t:79893469]...</cite> <quote>g980 posted... </cite> <quote>another instance of CE's alt left fighting against science how dare billionaires push forward space travel or try to cure paralysis</quote>Elon is a vaporware merchant who has done pretty much nothing that has actually had any real merit whatsoever. Every major promise is unfulfilled, and he has no clue as to what he's talking about most of the time. The most he's done is repackage existing tech and then fail on his promises to revolutionize them. So this would be stupid criticism of a proper study, but it's likely proper criticism of anything he has his hands in. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePusher 02/10/22 8:33:07 PM #99:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] elon simps lmao <cite>ThePusher posted [p:962545345] in Elon Musk'... [t:79893469]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> elon simps lmao </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Background_Guy 02/10/22 8:38:26 PM #100:	So everybody ITT was completely silent about the hundreds/thousands of animals being tested on and euthanized each year but when INTERNET MEME MAN does it, suddenly it's a problem. <cite>Background_Guy posted [p:962545477] in Elon Musk'... [t:79893469]...</cite> <quote>So everybody ITT was completely silent about the hundreds/thousands of animals being tested on and euthanized each year but when INTERNET MEME MAN does it, suddenly it's a problem. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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