Current Events > U.S. Army begins to discharge soldiers who refuse COVID-19 vaccination

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PatrickMahomes
02/02/22 5:45:16 PM
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https://www.npr.org/2022/02/02/1077625142/u-s-army-covid-vaccination

U.S. Army soldiers who refuse to be vaccinated for COVID-19 will soon be discharged, the military branch announced Wednesday.

The Army said it will "immediately begin separating Soldiers from the service" who refuse to be vaccinated or who don't have an approved or pending request for exemption.

"Army readiness depends on Soldiers who are prepared to train, deploy, fight and win our nation's wars," said Secretary of the Army Christine Wormuth. "Unvaccinated Soldiers present risk to the force and jeopardize readiness."

Soldiers who are discharged for refusing to be vaccinated "will not be eligible for involuntary separation pay" and may have to return any unearned special or incentive pay, the Army said.

As of Jan. 26, it said, 96% of active troops have been completely vaccinated, while 3,350 soldiers have refused to get the vaccine. Nearly 5,900 have received temporary exemptions.

Those who have asked for a medical exemption or religious accommodations are temporarily exempt from the vaccination requirement while their requests are being reviewed.

"To date, Army commanders have relieved a total of six Regular Army leaders, including two battalion commanders, and issued 3,073 general officer written reprimands to Soldiers for refusing the vaccination order," the Army said late last month.

The Pentagon began requiring members of the military to get vaccinated last summer.

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Giant_Aspirin
02/02/22 5:51:28 PM
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PatrickMahomes posted...
"Army readiness depends on Soldiers who are prepared to train, deploy, fight and win our nation's wars," said Secretary of the Army Christine Wormuth. "Unvaccinated Soldiers present risk to the force and jeopardize readiness."

and just watch, those people will conveniently ignore this while blaming it on politics

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Irony
02/02/22 5:52:04 PM
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Good

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Lord_Shadow
02/02/22 5:52:18 PM
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They should be dishonorably discharged for insubordination

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Zikten
02/02/22 5:53:08 PM
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Lord_Shadow posted...
They should be dishonorably discharged for insubordination

This. Stripped of all medals and honors and payments
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Will_VIIII
02/02/22 5:54:21 PM
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Zikten posted...
This. Stripped of all medals and honors and payments


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UnfairRepresent
02/02/22 5:55:47 PM
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Lord_Shadow posted...
They should be dishonorably discharged for insubordination


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armandro
02/02/22 5:58:36 PM
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damn imagine they only start drafting vaccinated people

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Dreepapult
02/02/22 5:58:46 PM
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Lord_Shadow posted...
They should be dishonorably discharged for insubordination
Ya, let's have more fucked up homeless soldiers. Great idea. Do you realize how damaging being dishonorably discharged is? Like hard to get a job at McDonald's bad. That's not benefiting anyone

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JTilly
02/02/22 5:59:17 PM
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armandro posted...
damn imagine they only start drafting vaccinated people
Oh fu-
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Will_VIIII
02/02/22 5:59:32 PM
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Dreepapult posted...
Ya, let's have more fucked up homeless soldiers. Great idea. Do you realize how damaging being dishonorably discharged is? Like hard to get a job at McDonald's bad. That's not benefiting anyone
Consequences of their actions

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Mearcstapa
02/02/22 6:01:16 PM
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Dreepapult posted...
Ya, let's have more fucked up homeless soldiers. Great idea. Do you realize how damaging being dishonorably discharged is? Like hard to get a job at McDonald's bad. That's not benefiting anyone

Give them dishonorables. Antivaxers deserve to suffer, after all the suffering theyve caused to society.

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Dreepapult
02/02/22 6:01:44 PM
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Will_VIIII posted...
Consequences of their actions
Will have a net negative impact on society. Yup. Good job everybody.

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Jiek_Fafn
02/02/22 6:02:15 PM
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Dreepapult posted...
Ya, let's have more fucked up homeless soldiers. Great idea. Do you realize how damaging being dishonorably discharged is? Like hard to get a job at McDonald's bad. That's not benefiting anyone
No
Absolutely no one at McDonald's is even looking at your service record atm

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TheOtherMike
02/02/22 6:03:14 PM
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Dreepapult posted...
Will have a net negative impact on society. Yup. Good job everybody.

And it's entirely their own fault.
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dummy420
02/02/22 6:04:07 PM
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Lord_Shadow posted...
They should be dishonorably discharged for insubordination
Nah those are generally the equivalent of felonies for serious crimes. Other than honorable discharge should be the max for something like refusing the shot. The good thing is quite a few people are losing their options to retire and pull a pension because they picked now to be dumb.

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Mearcstapa
02/02/22 6:04:10 PM
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Jiek_Fafn posted...
No
Absolutely no one at McDonald's is even looking at your service record atm
Dishonorables are tantamount to a felony conviction, as I understand. So their lives would be pretty much ruined.

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MrWingnut
02/02/22 6:06:56 PM
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Dreepapult posted...
Ya, let's have more fucked up homeless soldiers. Great idea. Do you realize how damaging being dishonorably discharged is? Like hard to get a job at McDonald's bad. That's not benefiting anyone
Perhaps simply getting a safe and effective vaccine to avoid that would be a good idea in that case? They've only received countless other vaccines upon enlisting. The threat of a dishonorable discharge should be enough to get most of the holdouts vaxxed. Too bad it won't happen though.
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Dreepapult
02/02/22 6:08:58 PM
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Y'all really just stick to the script huh? Should we just start lining up people that didn't take the shot and shoot them? Holy fuck.

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modena
02/02/22 6:09:25 PM
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Lord_Shadow posted...
They should be dishonorably discharged for insubordination
This

I was Army and I know plenty of people who would of not gotten it just so they can get out early. Great disincentive.

Edit: I agree with other than honorable. Knew a guy that got that for popping hot for weed. His life wasn't ruined, but just out with no perks.

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Dreepapult
02/02/22 6:11:42 PM
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Much more reasonable. People can still feel like the soldiers were punished but it doesn't completely fuck their whole life up

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Jiek_Fafn
02/02/22 6:11:48 PM
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Mearcstapa posted...
Dishonorables are tantamount to a felony conviction, as I understand. So their lives would be pretty much ruined.
Because they're generally for committing felonies. They show up on a background check but they don't go into detail. Most employers will just blanket ban any. McDonald's doesn't even bar you from employment for regular felonies.

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MrWingnut
02/02/22 6:14:02 PM
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Dreepapult posted...
Y'all really just stick to the script huh? Should we just start lining up people that didn't take the shot and shoot them? Holy fuck.
Quite a leap there. Literally no one here is advocating for that. Calm down.
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Drrobotniks
02/02/22 6:14:31 PM
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Dreepapult posted...
Y'all really just stick to the script huh? Should we just start lining up people that didn't take the shot and shoot them? Holy fuck.
It's almost as if actions have consequences. Holy fuck!

But people like you don't understand that
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armandro
02/02/22 6:15:09 PM
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MrWingnut posted...
Quite a leap there. Literally no one here is advocating for that. Calm down.
It really sounds like it

they wanna ruin the lives of people that don't


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HagenEx
02/02/22 6:15:38 PM
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Great news.

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thronedfire2
02/02/22 6:16:06 PM
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Drrobotniks posted...
It's almost as if actions have consequences. Holy fuck!

But people like you don't understand that

the consequence is they get kicked out of the army and dont get a pension, you dont need to ruin their job prospects forever too

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EmbraceOfDeath
02/02/22 6:18:13 PM
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Dreepapult posted...
Ya, let's have more fucked up homeless soldiers. Great idea. Do you realize how damaging being dishonorably discharged is? Like hard to get a job at McDonald's bad. That's not benefiting anyone
That's a fault of employers who won't hire them, not a fault of them being dishonorably discharged.

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Dreepapult
02/02/22 6:21:57 PM
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MrWingnut posted...
Quite a leap there. Literally no one here is advocating for that. Calm down.

Do you know the sucide rate for veterans? It's pretty fucking high. You know how it ends up higher? Make them basically unemployable

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Dreepapult
02/02/22 6:22:56 PM
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EmbraceOfDeath posted...
That's a fault of employers who won't hire them, not a fault of them being dishonorably discharged.
Cause and effect, they know they are ruining a person's life with a dishonorable. That's why it's not done lightly. Doing it for refusal of the shot would be absurd.

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MabusIncarnate
02/02/22 6:23:57 PM
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Dreepapult posted...
Will have a net negative impact on society. Yup. Good job everybody.
Yup, so does not being vaccinated. Good job!

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Drrobotniks
02/02/22 6:26:13 PM
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thronedfire2 posted...
the consequence is they get kicked out of the army and dont get a pension, you dont need to ruin their job prospects forever too
Well then I guess they get the shot then, that's the consequence and if they still dont get the jab, that's on them
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thronedfire2
02/02/22 6:26:22 PM
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EmbraceOfDeath posted...
That's a fault of employers who won't hire them, not a fault of them being dishonorably discharged.

Usually the refusal to hire people with felonies is up to the state, NOT the employer

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TheOtherMike
02/02/22 6:26:38 PM
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armandro posted...
It really sounds like it

No it doesn't.

armandro posted...
they wanna ruin the lives of people that don't

Actions have consequences. What do you want, special treatment for demonstrably false beliefs?
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Dreepapult
02/02/22 6:27:52 PM
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MabusIncarnate posted...
Yup, so does not being vaccinated. Good job!
Keep drinking the Kool aid. I'm sure they'll stop doing ludicrous bullshit any day now. Just 2 more weeks.

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Bishop9800
02/02/22 6:29:04 PM
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Zikten posted...
This. Stripped of all medals and honors and payments


I agree

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Drrobotniks
02/02/22 6:30:42 PM
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Dreepapult posted...
Keep drinking the Kool aid. I'm sure they'll stop doing ludicrous bullshit any day now. Just 2 more weeks.
"Kool aid"

Shut the actual fucking fuck up, covid is not a joke and fuck these people for not getting a simple jab for their country
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SauI_Goodman
02/02/22 6:31:28 PM
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They are going to have a hard time finding a job in the civvie world as a lot of places are requiring new employees to be vaccinated. Might as well just get it... wasnt a problem for you at basic when you got 3000 needles injected.

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Dreepapult
02/02/22 6:34:52 PM
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Drrobotniks posted...
"Kool aid"

Shut the actual fucking fuck up, covid is not a joke and fuck these people for not getting a simple jab for their country
You'll never be fully vaccinated

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Drrobotniks
02/02/22 6:35:55 PM
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Dreepapult posted...
You'll never be fully vaccinated
Already am and fully boostered, it really isnt that hard to get the shot
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ThePieReborn
02/02/22 6:36:08 PM
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I still genuinely do not see why this particular set of vaccines is the line in the sand, especially at this juncture.

All those other requisites are fine, but this is too far.


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Dreepapult
02/02/22 6:37:26 PM
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Drrobotniks posted...
Already am and fully boostered, it really isnt that hard to get the shot
Until they announce the next booster. And then the next one. And then the next one. And then the next one.

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MabusIncarnate
02/02/22 6:37:53 PM
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Dreepapult posted...
Keep drinking the Kool aid. I'm sure they'll stop doing ludicrous bullshit any day now. Just 2 more weeks.
Where are we at, over 800k dead? Yep sounds like a fake hoax to me..

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Kloe_Rinz
02/02/22 6:38:15 PM
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Dreepapult posted...
Do you realize how damaging being dishonorably discharged is?
not enough for literal bioterrorists
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Drrobotniks
02/02/22 6:38:30 PM
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Dreepapult posted...
Until they announce the next booster. And then the next one. And then the next one. And then the next one.
Goddamn right I will, just like I get my flu shot every fucking year

Again, it's not hard to get the shot
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MabusIncarnate
02/02/22 6:39:10 PM
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Dreepapult posted...
Until they announce the next booster. And then the next one. And then the next one. And then the next one.
Yes, its almost like thats how vaccines work. Ever hear of the influenza vaccine? Surely that's one and done by now, right?

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wackyteen
02/02/22 6:41:40 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/8/6/AAecKNAACwPe.jpg

Their actions have consequences? Who'd've thunk.

Still wondering when they're gonna force us all to get the booster shot. Already heard somebody people mumbling about refusing it.

But like they already got shots 1 and 2 so I especially don't get what the big deal would be.

At least those outright refusing had the "well its experimental" defense.

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