Current Events > Joe Rogan apologizes, pledges to "try harder" on COVID misinformation.

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JTilly posted...

Its almost as if somebody that takes a bunch of drugs shouldnt be taken as seriously now should it..

And yet people do, and get sick, and then overcrowd our hospitals because "Joe Rogan said he only needed Ivermectin"

Ruvan22 posted...

And yet people do, and get sick, and then overcrowd our hospitals because "Joe Rogan said he only needed Ivermectin"

And what of the people that simply just took OTC medicines and rested for a week, then came out fine? Are they spreading misinformation, too?

kinetika_ posted...

And what of the people that simply just took OTC medicines and rested for a week, then came out fine? Are they spreading misinformation, too?

To some degree, yes, but they don't have national platforms that reach millions

This I believe is the video the OP is referring to:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSUGkSq1qQA

Yeah Joe, give equal voices to both sides! Sure, most people see black people as equals, but why not give a voice to those who think otherwise!

Ughhh.

Rogan is the most dangerous idiot in America right now. 6 months ago Id have called everyone in this thread a crybaby, but holy shit, Alt Right Joe Rogan became the reality.

'Most people think pedophiles are bad, but my next guest thinks the opposite...'

-Both sides Rogan

His show is objectively better with less crackpots on it.

monkmith posted...

no, fuck him, he's a disingenuous asshole who pushes fake information specifically because he knows there's a large subset of the population that'll buy into it.

What tf would be the point of that? You sound like someone who doesn't even listen to the podcast, which is 90% of the people "angry" with him rn. Give it a rest

goldenBoi45 posted...

What tf would be the point of that? You sound like someone who doesn't even listen to the podcast, which is 90% of the people "angry" with him rn. Give it a rest

https://twitter.com/thebadstats/status/1488375235195801600?t=61rFhRWmg2gTbdR2yDRk6Q&s=19

goldenBoi45 posted...

What tf would be the point of that?

Because it's incredibly profitable. See; Shapiro, Crowder, Rubin, Fox News, Daily Wire, Alex Jones, etc.

Oh the Roganity!

JTilly posted...

Its almost as if somebody that takes a bunch of drugs shouldnt be taken as seriously now should it..

And yet millions of people listen to him and trust him more than experts.

This is like when people say a comedian is just telling crazy jokes that mean nothing, while arguing about how the comedian is telling the truth that most people are too afraid to.

hockeybub89 posted...

And yet millions of people listen to him and trust him more than experts.

This is like when people say a comedian is just telling crazy jokes that mean nothing, while arguing about how the comedian is telling the truth that most people are too afraid to.

Maybe we should ban comedy than

JTilly posted...

Maybe we should ban comedy than

Man, this is definitely a post that deserves to be treated seriously.

Good, now that that's over maybe the left can find something else to bitch about.

Correct_Facts posted...

Good, now that that's over maybe the left can find something else to bitch about.

You feel all the people dead or hospitalized due to COVID is nothing to "bitch about"?

Ruvan22 posted...

You feel all the people dead or hospitalized due to COVID is nothing to "bitch about"?

He hosts a podcast. Anyone who hasn't gotten the vaccine isn't on the fence because of what he's saying. Either you do or you don't. By the way, I've had both and a booster. Stop being dramatic.

Correct_Facts posted...

He hosts a podcast. Anyone who hasn't gotten the vaccine isn't on the fence because of what he's saying. Either you do or you don't. By the way, I've had both and a booster. Stop being dramatic.

You'd think they would've realised this by now it's pretty amazing how ignorant some can be.

Xavier_On_High posted...

Do you forgive him?

I dont see what Im supposed to forgive or not forgive.

Near as I can tell, Rogan didnt apologize for whatever he said. He said he was sorry that Spotify was taking heat and he would try to balance out the guests. As usual, he admitted hes not an expert on these matters. Rogan is not a doctor and never claimed to be one, so if youre taking medical advice from him or pretty much any podcast I dont think its going to work out well for you.

Correct_Facts posted...

He hosts a podcast. Anyone who hasn't gotten the vaccine isn't on the fence because of what he's saying. Either you do or you don't. By the way, I've had both and a booster. Stop being dramatic.

trappedunderice posted...

You'd think they would've realised this by now it's pretty amazing how ignorant some can be.

Hey geniuses, there are plenty of people on the fence. You being incapable of even imagining a dissenting opinion says a lot about what youve got going on upstairs.

Im SO SCHOCKED that you would think a certain minority group of people don't matter. SHOCKED.

Speaking of someone who deals with the ramifications of misinformation daily, misinformation gains gravitas when it is actively pronoted by news networks or people like Rogan. Many people are willing to dismiss stuff they read on the internet, but when that stuff is also promoted by the "news" it then becomes more legitimate to these people.

But worse, Fox News and Joe Rogan both have a general theme of "reporting the truth they don't want you to know" and because of this narrative, healthcare workers are now lumped in with "they" even though they really shouldn't be.

Jerry_Hellyeah posted...

Hey geniuses, there are plenty of people on the fence. You being incapable of even imagining a dissenting opinion says a lot about what youve got going on upstairs.

Im SO SCHOCKED that you would think a certain minority group of people don't matter. SHOCKED.

This whole post is full of condescending nonsense.
DarkRoast posted...

Speaking of someone who deals with the ramifications of misinformation daily, misinformation gains gravitas when it is actively pronoted by news networks or people like Rogan. Many people are willing to dismiss stuff they read on the internet, but when that stuff is also promoted by the "news" it then becomes more legitimate to these people.

But worse, Fox News and Joe Rogan both have a general theme of "reporting the truth they don't want you to know" and because of this narrative, healthcare workers are now lumped in with "they" even though they really shouldn't be.

So the people you claim that are misinformed tell you that Joe Rogan told them so? Comparing him to a propagandist network is pretty naive, he even explained this in the response. He isn't a "news" network.

trappedunderice posted...

This whole post is full of condescending nonsense.

So the people you claim that are misinformed tell you that Joe Rogan told them so? Comparing him to a propagandist network is pretty naive, he even explained this in the response. He isn't a "news" network.

It doesn't matter, his listeners think he tells the "real truth." In the same way that Trump supporters think he describes a reality more "real" than Reuters or Associated Press.

If legitimate news agencies say something that's different than what Rogan says, it's because they're in cahoots with Big Pharma. Just like anytime something goes wrong with Trump, it's antifa and BLM teaming up with the "mainstream media."

Horrorbooksguy posted...

He has never accidentally given false information. It's deliberate.

Rogan is deliberately profiting off misinformation he knows for a fact is killing people.

If that's not a felony something is very wrong.

This. If anyone believes this apology then there's no saving them.

I think it's hilarious that shortly after this 'apology' he posts fake news about Ivermectin thinking he was right.

https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1488338157816930308?t=XDdODetYSPv0YIK0G9CCig&s=19

Correct_Facts posted...

He hosts a podcast. Anyone who hasn't gotten the vaccine isn't on the fence because of what he's saying. Either you do or you don't. By the way, I've had both and a booster. Stop being dramatic.

Strangely enough, I know a couple people that did defer from get the vaccine because (in their words) "I listen to Joe Rogan to get a variety of information from all sides". There are also lots of other anecdotal examples out on the web, and more importantly decades of research on how repeated exposure to soft challenging statements shifts a person's mindset. I never said anything about your vaccination status, why did you bring it up?
@Correct_Facts

trappedunderice posted...

You'd think they would've realised this by now it's pretty amazing how ignorant some can be.

Since you are joining, feel free to answer or refute
@trappedunderice

ETA DarkRoast post 123 explains this process - are you two claiming it doesn't exist?

DarkRoast posted...

It doesn't matter, his listeners think he tells the "real truth." In the same way that Trump supporters think he describes a reality more "real" than Reuters or Associated Press.

If legitimate news agencies say something that's different than what Rogan says, it's because they're in cahoots with Big Pharma. Just like anytime something goes wrong with Trump, it's antifa and BLM teaming up with the "mainstream media."

What are you talking about? People made up their minds regarding their vaccine choices before Joe even entered the equation. What does Trump have to do with the podcast? You keep bringing him up as if their is any relevance to it.

trappedunderice posted...

What are you talking about? People made up their minds regarding their vaccine choices before Joe even entered the equation. What does Trump have to do with the podcast? You keep bringing him up as if their is any relevance to it.

Because you're wrong. I have literally had patients tell me that they were on the fence about getting the vaccine until they saw stuff on Fox News or heard stuff on Joe Rogan's podcast.

trappedunderice posted...

What are you talking about? People made up their minds regarding their vaccine choices before Joe even entered the equation. What does Trump have to do with the podcast? You keep bringing him up as if their is any relevance to it.

Let me break this down a bit
A) Believing in something like vaccine efficacy is a process - it's not Yes/No. You can start off skeptic and then (intentionally or otherwise) find things that reaffirm your belief. THIS is what Joe is contributing to.
B) Trump is brought up as a parallel example of how this works - lots of people, even some on CE, have family members that might have had misgivings about immigrants/African Americans/liberals. Listening to Trump's statements over the years made them harden those beliefs to paranoia.

Stewman_Magoo posted...

I think it's hilarious that shortly after this 'apology' he posts fake news about Ivermectin thinking he was right.

https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1488338157816930308?t=XDdODetYSPv0YIK0G9CCig&s=19

I don't have Twitter, did Joe Rogan retract his statement about Ivermectin?

Ruvan22 posted...

Strangely enough, I know a couple people that did defer from get the vaccine because (in their words) "I listen to Joe Rogan to get a variety of information from all sides".

DarkRoast posted...

Because you're wrong. I have literally had patients tell me that they were on the fence about getting the vaccine until they saw stuff on Fox News or heard stuff on Joe Rogan's podcast.

I can't prove that you're wrong about your claims I admit but it seems pretty convenient as a means to the conversation.

trappedunderice posted...

I can't prove that you're wrong about your claims I admit but it seems pretty convenient as a means to the conversation.

A) I mean it's our claims versus yours. You claim "NOBODY has been influenced by Rogan" versus our claim of knowing some people (especially since she is an ER doctor), our claims seem a bit more plausible.
B) Plus as I mentioned the decades of research in social psychology showing how gradual misinformation builds and hardens a viewpoint.

Ruvan22 posted...

I don't have Twitter, did Joe Rogan retract his statement about Ivermectin?

Nope. Just deleted it and never mentioned it again.

Most people, intentionally are otherwise, do separate what they consider to be credible sources of information from non-credible sources. The problem is that people like Rogan and Hannity have a tendency to promote non-credible stories while still retaining the credibility afforded to network/syndicated news.

Ruvan22 posted...

A) I mean it's our claims versus yours. You claim "NOBODY has been influenced by Rogan" versus our claim of knowing some people (especially since she is an ER doctor), our claims seem a bit more plausible.
B) Plus as I mentioned the decades of research in social psychology showing how gradual misinformation builds and hardens a viewpoint.

So two random people on a video game message board who dislike Rogan claim that some people they came into contact with that were infected with covid-19 refused to take a vaccine because Rogan told them so? I find that really hard to believe.

trappedunderice posted...

So two random people on a video game message board who dislike Rogan claim that some people they came into contact with that were infected with covid-19 refused to take a vaccine because Rogan told them so? I find that really hard to believe.

That's a gross oversimplification of what I said.

DarkRoast posted...

That's a gross oversimplification of what I said.

You're right, non infected with the covid-19 virus.

trappedunderice posted...

People made up their minds regarding their vaccine choices before Joe even entered the equation.

If you had any shame whatsoever, you would bow out of this argument after posting something so demonstrably false.

masterpug53 posted...

If you had any shame whatsoever, you would bow out of this argument after posting something so demonstrably false.

If you can prove me wrong with data and facts I might consider your ridiculous demand.

DarkRoast posted...

Most people, intentionally are otherwise, do separate what they consider to be credible sources of information from non-credible sources. The problem is that people like Rogan and Hannity have a tendency to promote non-credible stories while still retaining the credibility afforded to network/syndicated news.

The problem is not inherently with talking to these people

the problem is Rogan does not have the intelligence or desire to challenge the views of anyone who comes on his show, so functionally hes just giving fringe views a microphone and giving them the exact same levels of credibility as everyone else

the idea that he just wants to bro out with everyone is baked into his show, which is why its a problem when he hosts neo-nazis

The problem with medicine in particular is that unless you've been to med school, you really have no idea how much you don't know about medicine. And that's not a criticism in as much as it's just a fundamental flaw in how he perceive a rabbit hole we haven't yet entered.

trappedunderice posted...

So two random people on a video game message board who dislike Rogan claim that some people they came into contact with that were infected with covid-19 refused to take a vaccine because Rogan told them so? I find that really hard to believe.

I find it hard to believe that you have proof that NOBDOY has been influenced by Rogan. Where are your data and facts to back this up?
(Also it's a lot more than two if you want to count the others in this thread with experiences like myself and DarkRoast)

The political tribalism that has evolved out of alternative media sources is not healthy for our democracy, and now even for our Healthcare. There are people who simply don't believe me for the sole reason that I am saying something different than Joe Rogan

Stewman_Magoo posted...

Because it's incredibly profitable. See; Shapiro, Crowder, Rubin, Fox News, Daily Wire, Alex Jones, etc.

Yeah, because this is how Joe Rogan became the number one podcast. His entire 15 year+ podcast career was built on shilling right wing shit.

Do you just not acknowledge the overwhelming amount of hippies and extreme liberal people he has on his show?

Oh wait, you don't listen to his podcast. You just get mad at him when your masters instruct you to

goldenBoi45 posted...

Yeah, because this is how Joe Rogan became the number one podcast. His entire 15 year+ podcast career was built on shilling right wing shit.

Do you just not acknowledge the overwhelming amount of hippies and extreme liberal people he has on his show?

Oh wait, you don't listen to his podcast. You just get mad at him when your masters instruct you to

I guarantee you he's making more money now than he was peddling fleshlights.

And I did used to listen to Joe Rogan before covid broke his ape brain. He still had bad takes even before covid.

One of the biggest problems I have with the "I'm not living in fear" crowd is how few of them recognize the endless burden they've placed on Healthcare workers.

Joe's a bro