Board 8 > Final Fantasy 14 MAFIA - Day 1: Throw Wide the Gates

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Shonen_Bat
01/30/22 4:56:11 AM
#51:


Yeah I totally expect to wake up to topic #4 of this game

Plum's posts so far are a little odd but not much more, I think. Wouldn't personally make a call on just that.


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masterplum
01/30/22 8:16:08 AM
#52:


I'm just a mafia nihilist and always have been. Until people actually throw down meaningful votes it's all kind of pointless.

I think day 1 discussion is good, but at the end of the day it really is just roulette if we hit scum or not.

Is playing roulette day 1 really optimal mafia strategy? Eh, probably not, but I've found trying to dissuade people from that generally just causes them to over react and vote for me because I have a different paradigm

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masterplum
01/30/22 12:24:54 PM
#53:


Well this doesn't bode well

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TidusOfTheX
01/30/22 1:07:33 PM
#54:


Yeah I understand. Do we all agree on no day 1 roulette?
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ScareChan
01/30/22 1:08:46 PM
#55:


its kind of nice to not have much to read here

but Plum is right, lets get some votes down

##Vote: Plum

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TidusOfTheX
01/30/22 1:09:33 PM
#56:


ScareChan posted...
Vote: Plum
Lol
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banananor
01/30/22 1:11:19 PM
#57:


hi all

the extra vote required has me concerned. i feel like it reduces our chance of accurately lynching without info by a lot

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ScareChan
01/30/22 1:14:36 PM
#58:


While majority guarentees a lynch, it's plurality otherwise. Whoever has most votes end of day is going to be lynched, the extra vote doesn't make much difference in that regard as it is very rare for us to get a majority vote on day 1

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htaeD
01/30/22 2:18:14 PM
#59:


Yeah sorry. Today of all days I got to visit my family. So I cant say much right now.

Tidus are you saying you want a Nolynch?

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Hbthebattle
01/30/22 2:28:42 PM
#60:


I have to replace out because of school stuff. Sorry, everyone.

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PunishedBen
01/30/22 2:46:42 PM
#61:


HB has requested to be replaced. I will ask Sheep first. If he declines I will seek someone else

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htaeD
01/30/22 3:08:57 PM
#62:


At least it happened early.

Goodluck HB

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Shonen_Bat
01/30/22 3:19:52 PM
#63:


No worries HB, see you.

I'd be fine with no lynch unless we get more discussion, it'd just be a shot in the dark otherwise.

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MikeTavish
01/30/22 3:21:43 PM
#64:


Mornin' folks. (He says at 3pm)

iirc no lynching on day 1 is almost never a good idea, no? Or did that change for some reason in the many years since I've played this game?

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Leafeon13N
01/30/22 3:24:35 PM
#65:


It is a technically optimal play that is also suicidal. Also no fun.
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htaeD
01/30/22 3:26:43 PM
#66:


It feels like scum would like it way more than town. It denies us info in the end.

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Shonen_Bat
01/30/22 3:38:30 PM
#67:


Would be good to get more info, a passive game doesn't help much. Isn't someone like Chris usually driving discussion in these?

Scare, any reasoning on your vote?


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PunishedBen
01/30/22 3:40:58 PM
#68:


[1]Ulti - Mzero

WITH 14 ALIVE, IT TAKES 8 VOTES TO LYNCH. DAY ENDS TOMORROW AT 8PM EST

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MikeTavish
01/30/22 3:42:19 PM
#69:


Yeah, if we vote someone we at least have a chance at hitting scum (a better chance if we actually get some discussions going), we can also use the info of who voted for whom in the next round whereas if we just no lynch the mafia get a free shot and we still don't really know much more unless we have some cool night moves that find us scum for free. I don't really want to rely on that, though.

Definitely not on the no lynch train, personally.

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red13n
01/30/22 3:45:40 PM
#70:


Scare has no vote confirmed?

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MikeTavish
01/30/22 3:51:48 PM
#71:


Huh. Wonder if that's real or just a mess up.

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DoomTheGyarados
01/30/22 3:53:16 PM
#72:


Who is the 14th person alive

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htaeD
01/30/22 3:53:51 PM
#73:


Testing

##Vote: masterplum

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PunishedBen
01/30/22 4:07:08 PM
#74:


Mistakes were made. Edited previous post

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htaeD
01/30/22 4:22:30 PM
#75:


Ah ok

##Unvote: Plum

Anyway might as well get some topic going. What does everyone think about Mzero?

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MikeTavish
01/30/22 4:27:58 PM
#76:


Voted Ulti for not playing the game which is a fair reaction tbh and if we're going to vote someone day 1 with next to no info I can think of worse reasons to vote someone. Other than that, I got nothin'.

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DoomTheGyarados
01/30/22 4:29:31 PM
#77:


Voting ulti for not playing is wise

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Shonen_Bat
01/30/22 4:31:45 PM
#78:


They didn't say much that other people weren't also saying but yeah, the vote is fair

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htaeD
01/30/22 4:43:37 PM
#79:


Its just that I feel like Ulti always pulls this shit.. Not that I like it when he does but he doesnt seem to care about Mzero either.

Still I admit that the vote at least feels like a good reaction from Mzero

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masterplum
01/30/22 4:54:27 PM
#80:


I don't hate voting ulti for not playing. The big problem is if scum is inactive they will just keep rolling day after day not playing until they have to. Our activity is low enough I'm concerned that will be a problem


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masterplum
01/30/22 4:55:40 PM
#82:


Mmm yeah ok I talked myself into it

##Vote:Ulti


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DoomTheGyarados
01/30/22 4:57:28 PM
#83:


UltimaterializerX posted...
You of all people should know what Im actually doing here my dude. Remember the game where I was towns spirit medium and lolstomped the game with your corpse because I knew noping out of the game for a few days would work? Scum couldnt deal with you twice and the role was so stupid that some of towns usual idiots thought it was a scum role anyway. The host had to change the rules mid-game, which basically mega-confirmed everything I said and the game was a rout because of it. Puns is probably still crying about it somewhere.

Lets fast forward to now. Scum can kill me on night 1 or lose this game. No other result is possible unless town really feels like mislynching an inactive on day one.

You have 1000% done this as scum. Just play lol

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masterplum
01/30/22 4:57:43 PM
#84:


Well that was interesting timing

Ulti we just don't have the activity for you to do nothing this game

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Leafeon13N
01/30/22 4:59:46 PM
#85:


Ironically ulti has brought more to the game than a fair list of people.
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DoomTheGyarados
01/30/22 5:02:34 PM
#87:


I mean it is a sleepy Sunday I am not too worried about that as of yet. Can't just go deuces though.

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htaeD
01/30/22 5:03:28 PM
#88:


Geez, I almost wanna go back to Ulti being quiet.

But Chris is right. I dont know why you would expect everyone to just accept this either.

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htaeD
01/30/22 5:09:19 PM
#89:


Leafeon13N posted...
Ironically ulti has brought more to the game than a fair list of people.


I wanna argue this because I feel insulted, but I guess I technically cant.
But his method would be getting something by letting everyone else do the work, and thats just not great.

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masterplum
01/30/22 5:12:54 PM
#91:


UltimaterializerX posted...
Accept what? I literally just claimed.

Sort of. Im not giving scum free info, just a friendly warning. Kill me night one or lose, bros.

You realize I've seen you do this as scum, cop, and vanilla right?

This post is completely meaningless

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htaeD
01/30/22 5:15:10 PM
#93:


That was a claim?
I thought it was just Ulti bravado..

Its a familiar feeling either way. A feeling of doubt.
Just wish I could say it makes you anything besides Ulti.

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MikeTavish
01/30/22 5:15:55 PM
#94:


Ulti definitely feels decidedly Ulti so far. Which is to say he could literally be anything.

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masterplum
01/30/22 5:16:00 PM
#95:


htaeD posted...
That was a claim?
I thought it was just Ulti bravado..

Its a familiar feeling either way. A feeling of doubt.
Just wish I could say it makes you anything besides Ulti.

Why are you even entertaining this?

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htaeD
01/30/22 5:19:00 PM
#96:


UltimaterializerX posted...
btw Death did you seriously just whine about my first post before whining about me producing content?


No that first post was 'whining' about you talking again while making fun of Puns
Call me a softie I guess

The second post was a reaction to Reds assertion that I saw afterwards.

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htaeD
01/30/22 5:20:43 PM
#98:


masterplum posted...


Why are you even entertaining this?


I didn't say I was.
I said it doesn't tell me anything about him.
Mike phrased it better than me.

I'd like to say he cant weasel out of calling it a claim.... but yes I know Ulti better than that. This is barely anything.

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Shonen_Bat
01/30/22 5:21:53 PM
#99:


Ulti making people want to vote him off more than the actual scum, a bold plan let's see if it pays off

I wouldn't guess his role based on this, he just likes making things difficult for whatever reason.

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ScareChan
01/30/22 5:27:40 PM
#100:


Shonen_Bat posted...
Ulti making people want to vote him off more than the actual scum, a bold plan let's see if it pays off

I wouldn't guess his role based on this, he just likes making things difficult for whatever reason.

more than the -actual- scum?

Someone know something we don't?

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