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ToPoPO
01/29/22 2:49:30 PM
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Doe posted...
45 posts of people without brain tumors and opioid history telling TC whether he deserves treatment and justifying his doctor gaslighting him. Very cool!

If the doc wants to take OP off their current medications that should be a discussion they have, not the doctor continually leading OP on.

I'd be interested to see how frequently TC takes his clonazepam

Also pituitary tumors do not frequently cause pain
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Sexypwnstar
01/29/22 2:50:39 PM
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TC knows his disease better than his MD

sue happy America yall

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DarkRoast
01/29/22 3:26:33 PM
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Bit complex - pain can also raise BP, and to be frank NSAIDs are bad for your kidneys but rarely jack up your BP by significant amounts unless you take them long-term.


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I4NRulez
01/29/22 3:30:45 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
Bit complex - pain can also raise BP, and to be frank NSAIDs are bad for your kidneys but rarely jack up your BP by significant amounts unless you take them long-term.

Aren't doctors trying to stop doing what is happening to tc? My doctor stopped prescribing ativan because of that. She gave a non habit forming prescription instead.

I feel like if you're on medication that withdrawal symptoms will kill you over the issue itself you need different medication

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DarkRoast
01/29/22 3:31:53 PM
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I4NRulez posted...
Aren't doctors trying to stop doing what is happening to tc? My doctor stopped prescribing ativan because of that. She gave a non habit forming prescription instead.

I feel like if you're on medication that withdrawal symptoms will kill you over the issue itself you need different medication

I always assume that the story is more complicated than the patient thinks, and I don't mean that in a rude way, it's just that medical decisions and much more complicated than people assume.

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Number090684
01/29/22 3:35:16 PM
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What race are the two of you? Is she white and are you a minority?
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Number090684
01/29/22 3:39:01 PM
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Sexypwnstar posted...
TC knows his disease better than his MD

sue happy America yall

Not exactly. Also you shouldn't give a MD the benefit of the doubt just because of their standing. Lots of quacks and malicious medical workers out there these days.
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Vampire_Wreath
01/29/22 3:39:54 PM
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Blame the MD and physicians, just don't blame the pharmacists, it's not their fault!

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chrono625
01/29/22 6:27:51 PM
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It cannot be healthy or a great medical advice to make someone live off opioids for 14 years.

that shit would destroy your liver and kidneys.

no ones shitting on TC. But when youre having a meltdown because youre not getting your opioids thats youve been hooked on for 14 years it is a huge red flag.


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DespondentDeity
01/29/22 6:37:03 PM
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chrono625 posted...
But when youre having a meltdown because youre not getting your opioids thats youve been hooked on for 14 years it is a huge red flag.

they didnt put themselves on the shit, TC is a victim.

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Trumpo
01/29/22 6:37:55 PM
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We may not be getting the full story
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armandro
01/29/22 6:40:17 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

LMAO
all of a sudden they want to hear the other side of the story.

holy shit CE is amazing

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itachi15243
01/29/22 6:52:47 PM
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Back from the ER and I have a four day supply of my morphine so I can get my prescription on Monday. Weirdly enough, no one could figure out why the medicine wasn't prescribed.

And I'm not gonna sue her, (I don't want to hurt the hospital)apparently she's only a resident (3rd year) and might not have her DEA license.

I'm still thinking about tipping off the medical board, but I don't think I will, unless I don't get my clonazepam(could die without) by tuesday or something.

Also, to everyone who's criticizing me, please do what I did and not only get off 100mcg of fentanyl to a low does of morphine, but spend all day calling people to get lied to, and then spending all day in the ER with bad withdrawal and miserable pain. Until your neurosurgeon says you have scaring on the lining of your brain, you really can't judge me.

Also, I have adrenal insufficiency, so I CAN die from serious opiate withdrawal. I need an IV or shot of cortisol if I'm ever more sick than an average flu, or throwing up at all.

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JTilly
01/29/22 6:56:15 PM
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Im glad you got that handled man
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itachi15243
01/29/22 6:56:41 PM
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whitelytning posted...
Did you see the specialists she said you needed to see?

Im guessing the answer is no.

Beeep. Wrong.

I immediately scheduled appointments. I believe I mentioned this.

JTilly posted...
Im glad you got that handled man

Thank you so much and also thank you to the people who supported me through this topic. It's just been such a rough week, and that level of withdrawal was miserable. I'm glad I have almost everything straightened out.


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Delirious_Beard
01/29/22 6:57:20 PM
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what in the hell are these replies

good god this board is irredeemable

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ColdOne666
01/29/22 7:18:04 PM
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Naysaspace posted...
Yeah this reads as some unhinged high-emotion person having a hissy cuz he didnt get his opiates. "I need benzos and NOTHING else will do!"

Consider for a moment she is trying to get you off these heavily addictive drugs? Alternatuve treatment.

And you want to harm her in retaliation? Good god, major red flag right there


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Imit8m3
01/29/22 7:23:25 PM
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Just get drunk like an adult

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bsp77
01/29/22 7:40:16 PM
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So I didn't read the responses, so I apologize if I missed anything, but how long have you been on clonazepam? That is truly nasty stuff, and yes if you get dependent on it and stop cold turkey, it can kill you. Benzos... ugh

Edit: nevermind. 14 years. Is that medication necessary at this point? I honestly don't know, so just asking.

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DarkRoast
01/29/22 7:43:45 PM
#72:


It is dangerous to withdraw from benzodiazepines. You can have seizures. That said, clonazepam has a long half-life relative to the others.

But I should make one thing clear - threatening a physician for not prescribing benzodiazepines or opioids will never, ever go well for you - even if you think you're justified.

If she's been prescribing benzos forever and cut you off cold turkey without setting you up with another prescriber, that's malpractice. Otherwise, if this is an intermittent thing, you're not going to win this battle, justified or not.


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itachi15243
01/30/22 10:13:53 AM
#73:


DarkRoast posted...
It is dangerous to withdraw from benzodiazepines. You can have seizures. That said, clonazepam has a long half-life relative to the others.

But I should make one thing clear - threatening a physician for not prescribing benzodiazepines or opioids will never, ever go well for you - even if you think you're justified.

If she's been prescribing benzos forever and cut you off cold turkey without setting you up with another prescriber, that's malpractice. Otherwise, if this is an intermittent thing, you're not going to win this battle, justified or not.

She's anew doctor, a resident, and I don't plan on threatening her at all. If she fucks up again with my clonazepam, I will file a complaint with the medical board

She can't continue to do this. I'm not sure if CE notices this(because a women is involved (not speaking of you) but forgetting/failing to prescribing someone medication they could literally die without is extreme negligence and blatant malpractice.

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DarkRoast
01/30/22 11:05:17 AM
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Just fyi, depending on which field they're in, residents are generally not supposed to prescribe schedule 2 drugs (benzos, opioids, amphetamines, etc) so you might want to see if you can see the attending instead.

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yemmy
01/30/22 9:51:42 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
benzos

Not schedule 2

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ToPoPO
02/01/22 4:16:42 PM
#76:


yemmy posted...
Not schedule 2

rekt
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hockeybub89
02/01/22 4:17:46 PM
#77:


pupeye posted...
imagine if you could go to the pharmacy and just buy the meds you need to save your life....
Maybe the laws are fucked up...
That would be fucking horrible

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The_Dan_Haren
02/01/22 4:26:48 PM
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lmao none of this is malpractice and shes not getting her license revoked.
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NightingaleMD
02/01/22 4:27:48 PM
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The_Dan_Haren posted...
lmao none of this is malpractice and shes not getting her license revoked.


this 100%

I don't even need TC's doc's side. You sound like a terrible patient.

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MrPeppers
02/01/22 4:42:34 PM
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I've had the monthly patient complain about me and tell the nurses about how they've never been told X, Y, or Z in contrast to the management plan, or how their prescriptions were never filled, or why am I not scheduled for surgery. And then we go to the medical record and it's all been documented over months of counseling. People will swear up and down that they never used X treatment, and they never got Y imaging, or have never done Z procedure and I'm lying. And it's all documented with reports and pharmacy fills in their chart. Patients are NOT malicious, some of them just horribly mis-remember what was discussed or what they agreed to at the time. So, yeah, sometimes I'm very reluctant to completely side with patients on the initial few encounters at least until I get other records.

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NightingaleMD
02/01/22 4:52:20 PM
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Let's not go too far here

We're probably talking about pituitary adenomas, which are not a life threatening issue for virtually everyone with them. Most people with them won't ever even know unless they get a head CT for something else

TC sounds like someone with uncontrolled anxiety and other docs are getting tired of it. People like that are driving us out of medicine. They just want to be sedated into oblivion instead of forced to confront the behavioral changes necessary to get off of these drugs.

Benzos are terrible drugs. They should be illegal for anything more than short-term management. Once you're on them, you're hooked for life and you need more and more just to feel normal.

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NightingaleMD
02/01/22 4:56:07 PM
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You know that's....most of medicine. It's more art than science. It truly is.


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The_Dan_Haren
02/01/22 5:04:26 PM
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I agree with everything @NightingaleMD is saying. Thats why OP's doctor is likely trying to send him to psychiatry or pain management, cuz they don't want to deal with him demanding narcotics and benzos and threatening to file complaints to the medical board if he doesn't get it. If I was OP's doctor I would probably fire him. In that case I'd only be obligated to cover him for 1 month while he finds another doctor. Doctors need to start doing this more so their panel is filled with patients whom they can build good relationships with and not malignant relationships.
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MrPeppers
02/01/22 5:08:07 PM
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One complicating issue is that this patient was a resident who does not have her own DEA number and is acting under her attending. I usually don't deal with chronic pain patients (and didn't in my residency), but during residency I could not write or e-scribe opioids for outpatient post-op pain--it had to be done through an attending's triplicate which they had to personally write. I know benzos are C-IV scheduled drugs which makes them less controlled than opioids, but I can't remember if they needed a triplicate for outpatient management. There's a chance that it's more on the attending than the resident, since the attending may have refused to fill meds with abuse potential for initial visit patients. A lot of people who don't deal with controlled meds avoid prescribing them because of all the litigation around them. I will avoid filling chronic pain meds since that's not my wheelhouse.

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Smackems
02/01/22 5:19:31 PM
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Some of y'all are ignorant as fuck lmao

Board is always full of armchair doctors that "know what they're talking about bro" tho lol

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MrPeppers
02/01/22 5:30:31 PM
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It's definitely not appropriate to just assume people who use pain medications are addicts. I don't agree with all of the bashing, and I hate that addicts and prescribing practices from 10 yrs ago spoiled it for people like TC. I'm with you on that. Nobody should be assuming that someone is an addict especially if they know their pain regimen, and pain is a real and debilitating thing. It sucks, but you do have to be cautious and have your own license in mind when it comes to controlled substances. I'm happy this was at least ironed out for the TC at the end of the day.

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MrPeppers
02/01/22 6:57:18 PM
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It's all good! It's never too late to start a career in healthcare, and good luck to you!

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The_Dan_Haren
02/01/22 7:49:30 PM
#97:


If you go to www.doctorslicenses.com you just have to click the license revoke button and its done.
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DarkRoast
02/02/22 8:10:06 AM
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It's almost never Lyme. And worse, 99% of the time when a patient tells me they have Lyme disease, it was a naturopath or non-physician that diagnosed it using bogus lab studies. So there's a deeper stigma about that which is sad, but kind of unavoidable.

As for TC, the sad reality is that people who need controlled substances are treated like criminals even when we aren't. I say we because I take vyvanse, which is a kind of amphetamine, and every time I call to have a refill, it's like I'm calling a f****** probation officer or something. After a while, you internalize the paranoia and it's just ridiculous. People need to back off a little bit.

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itachi15243
02/02/22 10:05:23 AM
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Well, I managed to get everything figured out except my percocet.

They did prescribe it, but also prescribed the wrong dose, so that needs to be fixed sadly, but atleast my medicine was at least mostly prescribed this time.

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teep_
02/02/22 10:16:55 AM
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Glad you managed to get it (mostly) sorted out TC

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