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televigilante
01/26/22 11:02:18 PM
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Do you agree with the following? Matrix 4 is the second-best Matrix movie.


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SauI_Goodman
01/26/22 11:03:44 PM
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considering they all suck after the original that's not saying much

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Garioshi
01/26/22 11:04:48 PM
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No, the second best Matrix movie is The Matrix

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Tyranthraxus
01/26/22 11:06:04 PM
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Yes. 2 was total garbage. 3 was also total garbage but it smelled a little better.

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bsp77
01/26/22 11:08:06 PM
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No, it fucking sucks

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Raikuro
01/26/22 11:09:47 PM
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Is The Animatrix suddenly not a movie
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MICHALECOLE
01/26/22 11:10:48 PM
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Yes, but only because 2 and 3 are absolutely terrible.

rewatching them for the 4th one made me realize how truly awful they were
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televigilante
01/26/22 11:10:51 PM
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Raikuro posted...
Is The Animatrix suddenly not a movie

Try again. Nothing here has been said that has excluded that "movie."

And yes, it should be excluded because it's more like a short film.

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Tyranthraxus
01/26/22 11:11:14 PM
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Raikuro posted...
Is The Animatrix suddenly not a movie
It never was.

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MICHALECOLE
01/26/22 11:11:17 PM
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Raikuro posted...
Is The Animatrix suddenly not a movie
Oh if were including this then the new one is third
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televigilante
01/26/22 11:11:41 PM
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MICHALECOLE posted...
Yes, but only because 2 and 3 are absolutely terrible.

rewatching them for the 4th one made me realize how truly awful they were

This doesn't count toward my previous post.

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Gobstoppers12
01/26/22 11:11:54 PM
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Yeah. I enjoyed the closure and epilogue-ish nature of Resurrections more than I enjoyed the dumb-but-cool action in Reloaded.

And I barely enjoyed Revolutions at all.

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bsp77
01/26/22 11:12:52 PM
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MICHALECOLE posted...
Yes, but only because 2 and 3 are absolutely terrible.

rewatching them for the 4th one made me realize how truly awful they were
Rewatching 2 and 3 made me realize they weren't as bad as they are made out to be. 4 was literally the worst movie I saw in 2021

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televigilante
01/26/22 11:13:35 PM
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The Matrix 4 is definitely more psychological / meta than the other movies, but you could argue that the first one is because it introduced the whole concept of the matrix to begin with. I would call the original my favorite btw. And I liked The Animatrix too.

I gotta say imo, excluding The Animatrix, if someone doesn't give The Matrix 4 a top 2 spot then they're lacking in intrapersonal intelligence.

Oof.

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MICHALECOLE
01/26/22 11:15:03 PM
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bsp77 posted...
Rewatching 2 and 3 made me realize they weren't as bad as they are made out to be. 4 was literally the worst movie I saw in 2021
Interesting. It seems we have a difference in opinions.

I used to say 3>2>1 for matrix when I was younger, but boy oh boy do I disagree with my younger self
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televigilante
01/26/22 11:17:45 PM
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I think the worst movie I saw in 2021 was No Way Home. I gave it a D-. There were too many characters involved to have a good story. If it were a two parter then it could have been good. But it just seemed like an eye candy fest...like a show off fest. All these bad guys from past Spider-Mans and one of them looked like Jamie Foxx and not Electro. Doc Ock was made to be a joke immediately by Spider-Man's gadgets. He was the villain of arguably the best Spider-Man movie...wtf?

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MICHALECOLE
01/26/22 11:19:13 PM
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televigilante posted...
I think the worst movie I saw in 2021 was No Way Home. I gave it a D-. There were too many characters involved to have a good story. If it were a two parter then it could have been good. But it just seemed like an eye candy fest...like a show off fest. All these bad guys from past Spider-Mans and one of them looked like Jamie Foxx and not Electro. Doc Ock was made to be a joke immediately by Spider-Man's gadgets. He was the villain of arguably the best Spider-Man movie...wtf?
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JKwaffle
01/26/22 11:21:37 PM
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The Animatrix is the second best, for sure.

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RchHomieQuanChi
01/26/22 11:23:34 PM
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Matrix Reloaded has one of the best car chase scenes of all-time, so by default, no.

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televigilante
01/26/22 11:25:18 PM
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The Animatrix isn't a movie.

Cool, I was right. I linked this topic in another topic. Some guy said I had bad taste. Given that there are two other movies to consider (NOT INCLUDING the short film, The Animatrix...but voters have considered that unfortunately), then I would hope for over a 33% count for 'Yes.' And I got that.

@Blue_Popo , pwned.

Blue_Popo: But that's ad populum fallacy!

Jk you probably don't even know what that is.

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Raikuro
01/26/22 11:33:40 PM
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The Animatrix is a full length anthology movie. Unless you're trying to claim stuff like Pulp Fiction or Sin City are not really movies either.
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televigilante
01/26/22 11:40:56 PM
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Okay, I guess it's a movie. Welp. Tbh I thought the thing I saw at the theater before some movie (I think it was Dreamcatcher) was the whole thing. I gotta see that then.

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televigilante
01/26/22 11:41:23 PM
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Lol at all the people mad at me and voting no now.

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OudeGeuze
01/26/22 11:42:49 PM
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Matrix > Animatrix > Matrix 2 > crushing my nuts in a vice grip > 3 and 4
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Blue_Popo
01/26/22 11:42:50 PM
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televigilante posted...
The Animatrix isn't a movie.

Cool, I was right. I linked this topic in another topic. Some guy said I had bad taste. Given that there are two other movies to consider (NOT INCLUDING the short film, The Animatrix...but voters have considered that unfortunately), then I would hope for over a 33% count for 'Yes.' And I got that.

@Blue_Popo , pwned.

Blue_Popo: But that's ad populum fallacy!

Jk you probably don't even know what that is.

Obsessed, yikes, oof and ouch
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bulletproofvita
01/26/22 11:44:34 PM
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televigilante posted...
I think the worst movie I saw in 2021 was No Way Home. I gave it a D-. There were too many characters involved to have a good story. If it were a two parter then it could have been good. But it just seemed like an eye candy fest...like a show off fest. All these bad guys from past Spider-Mans and one of them looked like Jamie Foxx and not Electro. Doc Ock was made to be a joke immediately by Spider-Man's gadgets. He was the villain of arguably the best Spider-Man movie...wtf?
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televigilante
01/26/22 11:44:59 PM
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I'm not the one who signed on to multiple accounts / got a bunch of people to vote no lol.

You would have been smarter to pretend you weren't aware of this yet but now I know you're aware.

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Lorenzo_2003
01/26/22 11:47:39 PM
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No.

Ok, the second and third Matrix movies were bloated and disappointing, but at least they were trying to aim high and solidify their world building. Matrix 4 is the equivalent of a movie trying to suck its own dick and then winking at us for approval.

Nobody wants to see that shit.

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televigilante
01/26/22 11:48:16 PM
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You should elaborate. I want to know more about what you think.

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Tyranthraxus
01/26/22 11:55:41 PM
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IDK man if No Way Home was the worst movie you saw then you must have not seen many movies that year.

Did you see Gucci?

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pfh1001
01/27/22 12:05:27 AM
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bsp77 posted...
No, it fucking sucks
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televigilante
01/27/22 12:19:50 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
IDK man if No Way Home was the worst movie you saw then you must have not seen many movies that year.

Did you see Gucci?

The Matrix Resurrections, Spider-Man: No Way Home, Spiral: From the Book of Saw, Extraction, Godzilla: King of the Monsters, Godzilla vs Kong, Black Widow, Bandersnatch, Project Power, Gemini (meh) Eternals (bad), Venom: Let There Be Carnage (lame), Mulan, American Honey, The Peanut Butter Falcon, Space Jam: A New Legacy, Mortal Kombat(meh), Ice Road (meh), The Highwaymen, Jungle Cruise, F9: The Fast Saga,

ope it was the second worst. Christmas Chronicles 2 was the worst.

And it's the second worst of every movie I've seen this year so far too:

Don't Look Up, KATE, The Harder They Fall, The Power of a Dog, The Guilty, Fractured, Concrete Cowboy, and Red Notice

Worst: Concrete Cowboy
Best: The Harder They Fall/Don't Look Up (tie)

Is Gucci bad? I have good taste in movies so I probably wouldn't see something terrible. Gemini was an experiment because I'm losing faith in review sites like Rotten Tomatoes because I'm starting to see the business motives behind everything and I think the people who own Paramount own RT.

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Omnislasher
01/27/22 12:22:31 AM
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Yeah, it is for me. i went in with extremely low expectations though and was pleasantly surprised.
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Rharyx211
01/27/22 12:23:17 AM
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televigilante posted...
I think the worst movie I saw in 2021 was No Way Home. I gave it a D-.
lmao okay TC is just trolling with this topic

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televigilante
01/27/22 12:29:01 AM
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I've probably seen more movies than I listed. There just isn't a way to see your Netflix history afaik.

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Tyranthraxus
01/27/22 12:38:11 AM
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televigilante posted...
Is Gucci bad? I have good taste in movies so I probably wouldn't see something terrible.

It was awful. Only good part of the movie was Lady Gaga eye candy everything else was horrid.

That said I find it really hard to believe you somehow liked Black Widow more than NWH. That movie is like the fucking X-Men Origins Wolverine of the MCU.

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televigilante
01/27/22 1:15:52 AM
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X-Men Origins is a good movie. Wolverine is the worst of the three Wolverine movies.

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Zodd3224
01/27/22 9:18:35 AM
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2 and 3 are good. Not as good as the original, but still good.

4 is a steaming pile of self aware shit.

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