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Bestoffuture
01/15/22 2:55:31 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/4/6/AAIpfyAACz0i.jpg

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Machete
01/15/22 2:57:47 PM
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flaccid squashed dirty penis

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Kingbuffet
01/15/22 3:07:27 PM
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The funny thing is America is already pretty socialist, look at Social Security, the socialist things about America people dont complain about lmao

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berlyman101
01/15/22 3:08:35 PM
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no one complains about socialism once it actually happens.

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darkstar4221
01/15/22 3:38:07 PM
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He had so many conservatives and libertarians on his show.
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darkstar4221
01/15/22 3:39:20 PM
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Kingbuffet posted...
The funny thing is America is already pretty socialist, look at Social Security, the socialist things about America people dont complain about lmao

True, but the US is more like state capitalism, not free market capitalism. The US federal budget is $6.818 trillion dollars, that's insane.
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FL81
01/15/22 3:39:37 PM
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Bestoffuture posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/4/6/AAIpfyAACz0i.jpg
he's not wrong here

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Dakimakura
01/15/22 3:43:19 PM
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I made a meme

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/1/0/AAe_4aAACz1i.jpg

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ellis123
01/15/22 3:45:03 PM
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darkstar4221 posted...
True, but the US is more like state capitalism, not free market capitalism. The US federal budget is $6.818 trillion dollars, that's insane.
Those are synonyms. So long as there is a government they will play a substantial part in the supply and demand of goods, and so long as there are more than two families in any given location a governmental body is guaranteed. Hence why anarchists don't view anarchist capitalism to be actual anarchism.

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ooger
01/15/22 3:48:23 PM
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Goop, for men.

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darkstar4221
01/15/22 3:53:01 PM
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ellis123 posted...
Those are synonyms. So long as there is a government they will play a substantial part in the supply and demand of goods, and so long as there are more than two families in any given location a governmental body is guaranteed. Hence why anarchists don't view anarchist capitalism to be actual anarchism.

The point is the US doesn't have real capitalism. This is a good article on it.
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2010/05/dom-armentano/crony-capitalism/
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Scorsese2002
01/15/22 3:54:12 PM
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Go Joe!

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ellis123
01/15/22 3:56:23 PM
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darkstar4221 posted...
This is a good article on it.
No, that is an article on it. It isn't a good one. Between the site having its bent on its sleeve, the fact that it makes a distinction between "crony capitalism" and "free market capitalism," etc. It just doesn't have very much to stand on.

The easiest way to think about it is if there are no laws, what would be the most effective way to make money?

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ZMythos
01/15/22 3:59:40 PM
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Joe really is showing his true colors lately.

Covid must have deteriorated the decision making parts of his brain

either that or the PEDs

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Doe
01/15/22 4:00:44 PM
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darkstar4221 posted...
state capitalism
Meaningless phrase

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darkstar4221
01/15/22 4:04:38 PM
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ellis123 posted...
No, that is an article on it. It isn't a good one. Between the site having its bent on its sleeve, the fact that it makes a distinction between "crony capitalism" and "free market capitalism," etc. It just doesn't have very much to stand on.

The easiest way to think about it is if there are no laws, what would be the most effective way to make money?

Well according to liberterians what government is suppose to do is to protect rights mainly your life and property and against fraud.
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darkstar4221
01/15/22 4:06:39 PM
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Doe posted...
Meaningless phrase

It's not meaningless, it's heavy government involvement in the economy through minimum wage laws, subsidies, payroll taxes, government loans, regulations on automobiles, the environment, and even technology. Those are not suppose to be a function of government and under real capitalism and all laws would be repealed.
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Doe
01/15/22 4:33:18 PM
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darkstar4221 posted...
Those are not suppose to be a function of government
Why not. Why shouldn't the government carry some involvement in the economy? For example, without an authoritative body there's literally no solution to negative externalities in markets. Capitalism means that capital is owned privately, it doesn't mean that there can be no rules settings the bounds of business.

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ellis123
01/15/22 5:31:09 PM
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darkstar4221 posted...
Well according to liberterians what government is suppose to do is to protect rights mainly your life and property and against fraud.
A non sequitur to the proposed question to be sure. At the same time how exactly does a government come into existence and continue to function?

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darkstar4221
01/15/22 5:42:01 PM
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ellis123 posted...
A non sequitur to the proposed question to be sure. At the same time how exactly does a government come into existence and continue to function?

How is what I said non sequitur? You are saying what I say is a fallacy, but you don't how a company would be profitable without minimum wage laws, payroll taxes, and government subsides?
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darkstar4221
01/15/22 5:44:07 PM
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Doe posted...
Why not. Why shouldn't the government carry some involvement in the economy? For example, without an authoritative body there's literally no solution to negative externalities in markets. Capitalism means that capital is owned privately, it doesn't mean that there can be no rules settings the bounds of business.

But that is not pure capitalism since the entrepreneur doesn't have full control of their business or retain all their profits.

The authoritative body in an economy is not the govenrment, it's the market.
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SweetieBeIle462
01/15/22 5:49:57 PM
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Lmfao

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Antifar
01/15/22 5:51:26 PM
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Capitalism cannot exist without the state.

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Doe
01/15/22 5:55:18 PM
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darkstar4221 posted...
But that is not pure capitalism since the entrepreneur doesn't have full control of their business or retain all their profits.
So if there's a rule against say a hitman service, it's not capitalism?

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darkstar4221
01/15/22 6:01:57 PM
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Doe posted...
So if there's a rule against say a hitman service, it's not capitalism?

The purpose of governmemnt is to protect rights your life and property, that's really it. The government is not suppose to educate kids through compulsory laws, provide health care, protect endangered species. The governmet is not suppose to setup a retirement fund for the eldery (social security), regulate how cars shold be made.

Regarding a hitman service well that would be illegal, because murder is illegal.

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Antifar
01/15/22 6:03:19 PM
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darkstar4221 posted...
The purpose of governmemnt is to protect rights your life and property, that's really it.
Now try to win democratic legitimacy for a government that acts that way. You can't do it.

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Tyranthraxus
01/15/22 6:05:31 PM
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ellis123 posted...
No, that is an article on it. It isn't a good one. Between the site having its bent on its sleeve, the fact that it makes a distinction between "crony capitalism" and "free market capitalism," etc. It just doesn't have very much to stand on.

The easiest way to think about it is if there are no laws, what would be the most effective way to make money?

In a hypothetical no-law scenario nobody would use money.

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RchHomieQuanChi
01/15/22 6:08:41 PM
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Is someone really unironically playing the "not REAL capitalism" card?

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Guide
01/15/22 6:12:39 PM
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Antifar
01/15/22 6:13:36 PM
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And scene!

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darkstar4221
01/15/22 6:25:13 PM
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Guide posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/0/8/AAJxOBAACz3E.png

Well the girl did agree to have sex with him. If the AoC was 14 would that be considered be rape?

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Tyranthraxus
01/15/22 6:27:32 PM
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Why are you trying so hard to justify fucking 14 year old girls

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darkstar4221
01/15/22 6:29:20 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Why are you trying so hard to justify fucking 14 year old girls

Justifying hard? 14 year old girls do have sex, not all of them, but a lot of them do.
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AngelicRadiance
01/15/22 6:34:20 PM
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Wtf is happening in this topic now?

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Guide
01/15/22 6:34:58 PM
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AngelicRadiance posted...
Wtf is happening in this topic now?


Guide posted...


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darkstar4221
01/15/22 6:35:25 PM
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Guide, do you have that pic saved on your hard drive or something? Fking weird you would bring up an almost 2 year old argument.
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Guide
01/15/22 6:37:38 PM
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darkstar4221 posted...
Guide, do you have that pic saved on your hard drive or something? Fking weird you would bring up an almost 2 year old argument.

Oh damn, you called me weird. Wait, no, you just called the situation of me having those pics on my hard drive weird. Two different things, excuse me.

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darkstar4221
01/15/22 6:38:13 PM
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Guide posted...
Oh damn, you called me weird.

You are an ahole too, if it isn't obvious enough.
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Guide
01/15/22 6:39:24 PM
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lmao

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darkstar4221
01/15/22 6:42:02 PM
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Guide posted...
Oh damn, you called me weird. Wait, no, you just called the situation of me having those pics on my hard drive weird. Two different things, excuse me.

How is it two different things? You give a damn enough about other people just to so you can troll them in the future? That is weird.

Not only that, the discussion is off-topic.
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greyfox747
01/15/22 6:42:31 PM
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Imagine typing up those posts in those pics and then trying to call someone else weird

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ellis123
01/15/22 6:43:59 PM
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darkstar4221 posted...
How is what I said non sequitur? You are saying what I say is a fallacy, but you don't how a company would be profitable without minimum wage laws, payroll taxes, and government subsides?
It's a non sequitur because there is no logical path between "what is the most effective way to make money" and "a government is supposed to protect rights." The question isn't asking for the point of government nor does the answer talk about the most effective way to make money. It's a complete tangent in the same way that it would be if you started talking about pizza when asked about your favorite sushi: there are some words that might come up in both, but the actual point of either has been utterly missed.

Tyranthraxus posted...
In a hypothetical no-law scenario nobody would use money.
I mean, you aren't exactly wrong. It's just that you're skipping most of the thought experiment/line of reasoning. It's a baby steps sort of affair, I'm not starting with the conclusion. ~.~

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bloodyarts
01/15/22 6:44:15 PM
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Let's Go Rogan!
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berlyman101
01/15/22 6:44:21 PM
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I need a new name for left libertarianism after reading this topic. I now realize there is no salvaging the term.

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Guide
01/15/22 6:45:07 PM
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darkstar4221 posted...
How is it two different things?
The target is different. One is me, the other is the thing I've done. But I see that your intent was both, now. Thank you for the clarification.

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bknight
01/15/22 6:50:45 PM
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Not sure what his endgame is for his podcast. He's had normal celebrities and liberals before, but he is going so far down the rabbit hole that I don't think normal celebrities will want to come on. His pool of guest will be all far right or conspiracy nuts making his show even more toxic.
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ellis123
01/15/22 6:52:18 PM
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berlyman101 posted...
I need a new name for left libertarianism after reading this topic. I now realize there is no salvaging the term.
That was the point of everything Nolan did. At this point I would be willing to bet that if you went out on the street you would end up with <10% people able to tell you what "left versus right" actually means due to his legacy.

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Revocation68
01/15/22 7:00:28 PM
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bknight posted...
Not sure what his endgame is for his podcast. He's had normal celebrities and liberals before, but he is going so far down the rabbit hole that I don't think normal celebrities will want to come on. His pool of guest will be all far right or conspiracy nuts making his show even more toxic.

My guess is that he is making/getting big $$$ to spew far right bullshit in hopes of brainwashing younger generations (so they vote republican). Basically doing the ultra wealthy/powerful a favor etc
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darkstar4221
01/15/22 7:21:50 PM
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greyfox747 posted...
Imagine typing up those posts in those pics and then trying to call someone else weird

My stance is that man (who was 26 at that time) shouldn't have been criminalized because she reported the issue 4 years later when she was 19. Yes she was 15 when they had sex, but she agreed to have sex with him.

Now if she tried to fend him off and he forced himself onto her, okay I agree that is rape, but she only reported the issue because she felt "bad about it" so she agreed to have sex with him, it was consensual. That's my stance on it, I don't want to talk about it further.

And you don't see what Guide did as trollish, stupid, and weird? I don't even know why he did that. It has nothing to do with that topic.
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greyfox747
01/15/22 7:23:42 PM
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You dont need to keep defending that dude for raping a child. We really didnt need to hear it again

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