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LeoRavus
12/23/21 11:04:17 PM
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From this link:

https://www.dllr.state.md.us/labor/wages/essretailfaqs.shtml

10. My employer says that I can have a "working shift break"? What is a working shift break and is it allowed?
Any employer can provide a "working shift break" in the following circumstances:
  • the type of work prevents the employee from being relieved of work; or
  • the employee is permitted to consume a meal while working, the employee is paid for this time, and the employer and the employee mutually agree in writing to the working shift break.
Maryland wage law requires that you be paid for all time worked. If you were not paid for a working shift break, you may file a claim for your unpaid wages with the Commissioner of Labor and Industry. A copy of the claim form is available on our website.

According to what I read, if an employee has a "working shift break" they are not to have lunch deducted from their paychecks.

It's been understood that we in the parts room have a working shift break. We are not able to leave the parts room to get lunch or just enjoy some time to ourselves. We're always expected to be in the parts room. Kathy Stewart even told Kevin and I that we need to eat lunch in the parts room. Which is in fact, a working shift break. To be paid.

So my question is, are we entitled to be paid for lunch and also back-pay for all the lunches that were deducted from us? Should we have something in writing that says we have to be in the parts room at all times even though it's "understood" that we have to be? Can we put a sign on the door saying the parts room is closed for 30 minutes?

As of now I feel as if our rights have been violated and we deserve to be compensated. I'd like to hear something by January 31st. I'll be forwarding this to my attorney and taking care of it myself otherwise. I enjoy working at B&G and sincerely like everyone here. But I also would like to be treated fairly. I've asked for things to change multiple times and never got a response.

Thanks

tldr: they've been ripping me off for 5 years and I called them out on it.

My mortgage and all other bills are paid so I don't care if I get fired or if they don't like me. Fuck em.

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LeoRavus
12/23/21 11:19:42 PM
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Someone care.

Or maybe it's best that this topic dies.

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nfearurspecimn
12/23/21 11:22:29 PM
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I would be too chicken shit to ever do something like that.

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CapnMuffin
12/23/21 11:22:45 PM
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Good job stepping up. From my experience in retail they will always try to avoid the paid lunch break. If your unpaid lunch requires you to work or is interrupted by work you should be compensated or a new uninterrupted break period should then begin.
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FL81
12/23/21 11:23:13 PM
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yes, but just be yourself my man

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thronedfire2
12/23/21 11:24:13 PM
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Yeah Id definitely think youre right on this one

if they try to make you back down tell them youre calling the labor board, companies hate that

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Zeeak4444
12/23/21 11:30:01 PM
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Make sure to actually forward it to your attorney if you sent it.

Also Maryland is an at-will state so make sure you havent been late or had anything else (even minor) that they can use as justification for firing you.

HR is gonna be up your ass, but I applaud you and hope it works out.

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CharlesBronson
12/23/21 11:30:04 PM
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you deserve to be fried; you should just be grateful they are employing you, thank you.
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Jiek_Fafn
12/23/21 11:32:45 PM
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I'm not clear on the situation. Do you get a break but you just have to be around in case something comes up? Or are you just working the entire time and like eating a sandwich while you work?

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Axiom
12/23/21 11:36:34 PM
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I mean you threatened legal action. Why would you want to still be there if this is the case. It's pretty serious for a company to not pay employees for time worked especially if it's during what is supposed to be a break

Since you've already done this you need to go to the labor board and get other employees to back up your claims before upper management gets to them
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refmon
12/23/21 11:37:40 PM
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Zeeak4444 posted...
Make sure to actually forward it to your attorney if you sent it.


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LeoRavus
12/23/21 11:38:28 PM
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Zeeak4444 posted...
Make sure to actually forward it to your attorney if you sent it.

Also Maryland is an at-will state so make sure you havent been late or had anything else (even minor) that they can use as justification for firing you.

HR is gonna be up your ass, but I applaud you and hope it works out.

Oh I'm a model employee. I've only called out sick once in 2 years. Just got paid for my sick time I didn't use. They have nothing to throw against me.

Jiek_Fafn posted...
I'm not clear on the situation. Do you get a break but you just have to be around in case something comes up? Or are you just working the entire time and like eating a sandwich while you work?

I can't leave my area. I mean I "can", but if someone calls me on the radio I have to be there to keep things running.

So it's a working shift break like described on the Maryland labor website. I don't think they can deny me compensation for it. This has been eating away at me for too long. My 2 coworkers feel the same way but would never step up.

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ModLogic
12/23/21 11:39:08 PM
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tc was bluffing, hes not gonna pursue legal action. he's fucked up and will get sacked soon for some othet rando reason.

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DrizztLink
12/23/21 11:40:23 PM
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You might have wanted to leave the lawsuit gun in the holster until you'd actually heard a response.

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ModLogic
12/23/21 11:41:01 PM
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LeoRavus posted...
My 2 coworkers feel the same way but would never step up.
so they lured you to be the one that sticks his head out.
you take the risk. they just wait and reap the benefits at no risk to them.

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Rathinor
12/23/21 11:42:39 PM
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CharlesBronson posted...
you deserve to be fried; you should just be grateful they are employing you, thank you.
Ignore @CharlesBronson TC, he's unemployed and lives with his parents
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LeoRavus
12/23/21 11:45:37 PM
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ModLogic posted...
tc was bluffing, hes not gonna pursue legal action. he's fucked up and will get sacked soon for some othet rando reason.

Well I really sent the email.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/9/6/AABulwAACu_8.jpg

And if they fire me I'll sue the fuck out of them and maybe not have to work again for a long time.

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LeoRavus
12/23/21 11:47:30 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
You might have wanted to leave the lawsuit gun in the holster until you'd actually heard a response.

I thought about this.

But I have gone to HR about things multiple times in the past and they never follow up on anything. Ever. So what else am I supposed to do

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Chortlez
12/23/21 11:50:21 PM
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LeoRavus posted...
My mortgage and all other bills are paid so I don't care if I get fired or if they don't like me. f*** em.


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LeoRavus
12/23/21 11:55:02 PM
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In what way? I have a right to bring up lawyers if they've been fucking me and my coworkers for years.

Trust me, these fucks do not respond to normal comments. They just don't. And I will sue them if I have to.

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LeoRavus
12/23/21 11:55:53 PM
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And if they try to fire me for bring up a lawsuit that would work out great for me.

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Ruvan22
12/23/21 11:58:29 PM
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I'm glad you took this step!! I'd love to hear what happens Monday
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Pitlord_Special
12/24/21 12:00:55 AM
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Once you bring up attorneys and lawsuits theyre going to escalate it above the management of the site to the corporate office and it will be out of their hands to make any decisions.

Though if youre pursuing years of back pay, then your managers probably cant do that anyways.

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Axiom
12/24/21 12:01:39 AM
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LeoRavus posted...
In what way? I have a right to bring up lawyers if they've been fucking me and my coworkers for years.

Trust me, these fucks do not respond to normal comments. They just don't. And I will sue them if I have to.
You fucked yourself by letting them know in the first place. If you were going to pursue legal action you should've talked to an attorney went to the labor board and filed an official complaint then consulted with all the other employees trying to be as low key as possible

Now they have time to plan ahead before you even get things rolling
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LeoRavus
12/24/21 12:03:12 AM
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Pitlord_Special posted...
Once you bring up attorneys and lawsuits theyre going to escalate it above the management of the site to the corporate office and it will be out of their hands to make any decisions.

Though if youre pursuing years of back pay, then your managers probably cant do that anyways.

I thought about this as well.

I hope they do escalate it.

Things like this are among the many grievances most employees are afraid to tackle. I mean if this grows into a huge thing it could be ground breaking. I'm in a position in life where I can afford it.

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LeoRavus
12/24/21 12:04:29 AM
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Axiom posted...
You fucked yourself by letting them know in the first place. If you were going to pursue legal action you should've talked to an attorney went to the labor board and filed an official complaint then consulted with all the other employees trying to be as low key as possible

Now they have time to plan ahead before you even get things rolling

If I'm in the right does it even matter?

Like I said in the email I gave them more than a month's notice to do the right thing before it got legal.

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LeoRavus
12/24/21 12:07:03 AM
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Oh, and my coworker who's been there 10 years longer than me said he's down for a class action lawsuit. He'll have my back on everything.

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monkmith
12/24/21 12:11:37 AM
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they're going to tell you that you need to note when you cant take time off to eat lunch on a case by case basis and that there will be no blanket decision on paid work lunches. they will let you declare you worked through lunch and pay you for it, but they'll get pissy if you do it every time and you'll get annoyed dealing with it and stop. they also get pissy if you set up a form letter and just change the date every day instead of wasting your time filling out the same damn thing every time.

you probably wont see back pay, and if the business is of any size you're going to lose your shirt if you try to sue them.

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LeoRavus
12/24/21 12:15:04 AM
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monkmith posted...
they're going to tell you that you need to note when you cant take time off to eat lunch on a case by case basis and that there will be no blanket decision on paid work lunches. they will let you declare you worked through lunch and pay you for it, but they'll get pissy if you do it every time and you'll get annoyed dealing with it and stop. they also get pissy if you set up a form letter and just change the date every day instead of wasting your time filling out the same damn thing every time.

you probably wont see back pay, and if the business is of any size you're going to lose your shirt if you try to sue them.

According to the Maryland department of labor website I'm entitled to backpay.

And yes they're a huge business. They've been buying up every major food company for years. But, they're not above the law. The law is simple in this case.

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Axiom
12/24/21 12:16:18 AM
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LeoRavus posted...
If I'm in the right does it even matter?

Like I said in the email I gave them more than a month's notice to do the right thing before it got legal.
You being in the right doesn't mean anything. Sucks but that's the way it is and that month is going to be spent getting their lawyers ready to level you and anyone else
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LeoRavus
12/24/21 12:19:45 AM
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Axiom posted...
You being in the right doesn't mean anything. Sucks but that's the way it is and that month is going to be spent getting their lawyers ready to level you and anyone else

I highly doubt they'll take it that seriously.

And their lawyers can't rewrite the law. It's not complicated.

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Jefejonny
12/24/21 12:22:10 AM
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I know your not a good person tc so I'm guessing it won't go your way

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Rathinor
12/24/21 12:24:55 AM
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Jefejonny posted...
I know your not a good person tc so I'm guessing it won't go your way
This seems uncalled for
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LeoRavus
12/24/21 12:25:54 AM
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I'll just give some background of me at work.

I was hired as a mechanic. The person in the parts room got injured so they stuck me up there, where I've been ever since. They took $1 out of my pay for going there.

Since then, when the supervisor would quit, I've been responsible for all purchasing. For keeping the place going. For buying parts, chemicals, ingredients, whatever. That was all on me. For making peanuts. To make sure they stay in business. Then I had to train my new supervisors because they wouldn't hire me for the position.

And all the while they've been fucking me out of 30 minutes of pay every single day. Would this not bother anyone else?

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pupeye
12/24/21 12:28:20 AM
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give them hell!
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PatrickMahomes
12/24/21 12:29:11 AM
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some context on the situation would be helpful

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Jefejonny
12/24/21 12:32:05 AM
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LeoRavus posted...
I'll just give some background of me at work.

I was hired as a mechanic. The person in the parts room got injured so they stuck me up there, where I've been ever since. They took $1 out of my pay for going there.

Since then, when the supervisor would quit, I've been responsible for all purchasing. For keeping the place going. For buying parts, chemicals, ingredients, whatever. That was all on me. For making peanuts. To make sure they stay in business. Then I had to train my new supervisors because they wouldn't hire me for the position.

And all the while they've been fucking me out of 30 minutes of pay every single day. Would this not bother anyone else?
No just be that are entitled like you it's not going to go your way watch

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LeoRavus
12/24/21 12:35:45 AM
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PatrickMahomes posted...
some context on the situation would be helpful

I'm not sure how much more context you would need that I haven't described in detail with links and screenshots even.

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PatrickMahomes
12/24/21 12:36:32 AM
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LeoRavus posted...
I'm not sure how much more context you would need that I haven't described in detail.
you described the action you took but not the circumstances that caused you to take said action

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ChocoboMogALT
12/24/21 12:40:13 AM
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Sounds like a real car to me. Unpaid breaks are time not working, that means you're not working. If you're working, you should be getting paid. If they don't agree to back pay you can contact your department of labor.

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MrMallard
12/24/21 12:40:28 AM
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In Australia, you could go to the Fair Work Ombudsman who would conduct an investigation and get you that money, and also possibly issuing the company a fine.

In America, you might be SOL. I mean, unions have been doing pretty good lately, so maybe seek out a labor union who represents the sort of work you do, and see if you can sit down with someone and pick their brain. Unions have lawyers who - if they're a good union - are well versed in worker's rights and corporate law, at least to the extent that they can take a case like this to court and try to get your backpay.

Maybe it's different in America where if you're not a member, a union wouldn't cross the street to spit on you if you were on fire - but you should at least be able to sit down with someone and get an opinion. I imagine they wouldn't go to court for you unless you're a member, but it can't help to at least ask someone who's in the know about this sort of thing to better orient yourself.

All things considered, I hope you get your backpay and I hope these bastards don't fire you.

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treewojima
12/24/21 12:41:16 AM
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I'm assuming you're working at some kind of dealer or independent shop. Dealers especially treat their parts guys like shit, unless you're the "guru" that knows all and sees all and does all, in which case you're still probably underpaid.
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MrMallard
12/24/21 12:45:15 AM
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PatrickMahomes posted...
you described the action you took but not the circumstances that caused you to take said action
He posted the email. He and his department have been taking working breaks, which under Maryland law entitles them to pay during those breaks since they're still working while they eat. According to TC, it's understood between the staff and the business that what they're taking are working breaks, not regular breaks.

The company, against that law, hasn't been paying their workers for the working breaks they have to take. Hence the email.

Like did you read the OP or what

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LeoRavus
12/24/21 12:47:40 AM
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PatrickMahomes posted...
you described the action you took but not the circumstances that caused you to take said action

I described the circumstances in the first post of this topic. I'm sorry if you didn't read it.

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dioxxys
12/24/21 12:53:59 AM
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My mom tried to do the same thing when the the retirement center she was working at didnt have enough employees and nurses staffed there. She got wrote up on some minor bullshit and used it as an excuse to fire her.

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LeoRavus
12/24/21 1:00:44 AM
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dioxxys posted...
My mom tried to do the same thing when the the retirement center she was working at didnt have enough employees and nurses staffed there. She got wrote up on some minor bullshit and used it as an excuse to fire her.

That's a shame. People need to stand up and fight if they believe with reason that they're being done wrong at the workplace. That's how laws are made and enforced.

A company my size should know better. They throw away more product weekly than I make in a year. They won't be missing anything if I'm compensated.

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PatrickMahomes
12/24/21 1:24:30 AM
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MrMallard posted...
He posted the email. He and his department have been taking working breaks, which under Maryland law entitles them to pay during those breaks since they're still working while they eat. According to TC, it's understood between the staff and the business that what they're taking are working breaks, not regular breaks.

The company, against that law, hasn't been paying their workers for the working breaks they have to take. Hence the email.

Like did you read the OP or what
...it took you five years to notice?

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