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UndefeatedGOAT 11/16/21 2:17:48 PM #51: |
Funkydog posted...
Literally who gives a single flying solitary fuck what fans complained about when they made billions of dollars. companies cant leave a penny on the table anymore, if they made 8bn and could have made 10bn sometimes they'll fire people so really on both ends people will care, stakeholders, and passionate fans not that "who cares" is ever a good argument in any situation, you sound pretty basic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Funkydog 11/16/21 2:19:37 PM #52: |
UndefeatedGOAT posted...
Yawn. They are some of the most profitable films in history. She was never slightly in danger of being removed. I say this as someone who thinks the new films were largely shit with dumb choices when they could've done something great. But I'm not stupid enough to see reality as something else. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lolife67 11/16/21 2:19:54 PM #53: |
UndefeatedGOAT posted...
companies cant leave a penny on the table anymore, if they made 8bn and could have made 10bn sometimes they'll fire peopleDon't those shareholders know more than you or I what they expect? The fact is none of us have any clue how much money was left on the table and it's stupid to assume we do. The facts are they made billions and are keeping her on, so the logical conclusion is they're happy with what they got. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doom_Art 11/16/21 2:20:22 PM #54: |
I can't find a source about her forcing the Leia thing and overruling Rian Johnson, anyone know where that comes from?
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RustyFerret 11/16/21 2:20:37 PM #55: |
Doom_Art posted...
Because mean lady boss ruined my space seriesMarcia Lucas trashed the new movies too. Too bad she's not involved anymore creatively. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doom_Art 11/16/21 2:22:13 PM #56: |
RustyFerret posted...
Marcia Lucas trashed the new movies too.i msan unless it's regarding editing why would i care what marcia lucas thinks --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 11/16/21 2:22:50 PM #57: |
On the subject of Star Wars, I find the discussion of whether Kathleen Kennedy is the single proton torpedo that destroyed the proverbial Death Star that is the "esteem of the true fans" to be incredibly boring.
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IShall_Run_Amok 11/16/21 2:24:38 PM #58: |
HylianFox posted...
Successful doesn't necessarily mean "good"I think they're both, so whatevs. --- how does it feel to kick a tree we don't know because we're trees and we don't kick eachother ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RustyFerret 11/16/21 2:26:32 PM #59: |
Doom_Art posted...
i msan unless it's regarding editing why would i care what marcia lucas thinksShe was married to the guy that created it and was involved with it's creative decisions. She wasn't just an editor. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ViewtifulGrave 11/16/21 2:26:46 PM #60: |
AlphaCuck posted...
her big fuck up was making star wars movies aimed to please 45 year olds instead of 12 year oldsIts the opposite actually. Back in 2015 or so she mentioned that she wants to bring in a new audience. --- When Kaidou fails to keep up with Luffy in their next fight remember this conversation - MrDrMan ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smashingpmkns 11/16/21 2:27:14 PM #61: |
Doom_Art posted...
I can't find a source about her forcing the Leia thing and overruling Rian Johnson, anyone know where that comes from? It's probably not true. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Funkydog 11/16/21 2:30:13 PM #62: |
RustyFerret posted...
Are we pretending the prequels didn't happen? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lolife67 11/16/21 2:31:08 PM #63: |
Funkydog posted...
Are we pretending the prequels didn't happen?I think we're pretending they're good? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RustyFerret 11/16/21 2:31:27 PM #64: |
Funkydog posted...
Are we pretending the prequels didn't happen?She wasn't involved in them and thought they sucked too, lol ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ViewtifulGrave 11/16/21 2:32:14 PM #65: |
Didnt Kathleen fire the directors on the TRoS and SOLO causing them to become a rushed mess?
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lolife67 11/16/21 2:33:35 PM #66: |
RustyFerret posted...
She wasn't involved in them and thought they sucked too, lolSo the only ones she likes are the ones she was involved in? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xavier_On_High 11/16/21 2:35:08 PM #67: |
Doom_Art posted...
I can't find a source about her forcing the Leia thing and overruling Rian Johnson, anyone know where that comes from? Same. All I can find is an interview with Rian Johnson in which he states that Kennedy suggested that Leia might have strong Force powers because Luke tells her she does in RotJ. Personally, Space Leia feels 100% like a Rian Johnson move. Dude is nuts, and I love it. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Funkydog 11/16/21 2:35:46 PM #68: |
lolife67 posted...
I mean, duel of the fates and pod racing is still some of the very best of Star Wars. RustyFerret posted...
Fair enough I guess. Either way, who cares? Disney likes money and they make them money. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tsukasa1891 11/16/21 2:37:02 PM #69: |
AlphaCuck posted...
her big fuck up was making star wars movies aimed to please 45 year olds instead of 12 year oldsSo 45 year olds like Marry Sue characters? --- (edited 2/30/2021 10:51:12 AM) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lolife67 11/16/21 2:37:46 PM #70: |
Funkydog posted...
I mean, duel of the fates and pod racing is still some of the very best of Star WarsTrue but not enough to redeem the entire film, imo. I wouldn't sit through it again just to see those parts. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IShall_Run_Amok 11/16/21 2:37:55 PM #71: |
ViewtifulGrave posted...
Didnt Kathleen fire the directors on the TRoS and SOLO causing them to become a rushed mess?The director of Rogue One was also let go, after much of it had been finished. --- how does it feel to kick a tree we don't know because we're trees and we don't kick eachother ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doom_Art 11/16/21 2:38:03 PM #72: |
RustyFerret posted...
She was married to the guy that created itSo? It's not like I would care what Frank Herbert's wife has to say about Dune (or his son for that matter heheheheh) RustyFerret posted... and was involved with it's creative decisions. She wasn't just an editor.Everything I've ever heard points to her being brought in to edit ANH and receiving an Oscar for it. Never heard about her being involved in creative decisions. Source? --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smashingpmkns 11/16/21 2:40:03 PM #73: |
Editing is inherently being involved in the creative decisions of a movie.
That being said, I don't really give a fuck what George or Marcia Lucas have to say about anything lol --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doom_Art 11/16/21 2:41:50 PM #74: |
Smashingpmkns posted...
Editing is inherently being involved in the creative decisions of a movie. I mean yes, but that's not what either of us were talking about. Smashingpmkns posted... That being said, I don't really give a fuck what George or Marcia Lucas have to say about anything lolAlso yes --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RustyFerret 11/16/21 2:43:58 PM #75: |
Doom_Art posted...
Everything I've ever heard points to her being brought in to edit ANH and receiving an Oscar for it. Never heard about her being involved in creative decisions. Source?https://insidethemagic.net/2021/03/marcia-lucas-star-wars-rwb1/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smashingpmkns 11/16/21 2:48:18 PM #76: |
Doom_Art posted...
I mean yes, but that's not what either of us were talking about. I mean it kinda is though. Especially someone who would have to edit a George Lucas film lol --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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masterpug53 11/16/21 2:48:50 PM #77: |
The crux of Marcia Lucas' complaint over the ST (at least the most recent public one) was that
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iPhone_7 11/16/21 2:50:17 PM #78: |
Kathleen Kennedy's contract at Lucasfilm renewed through 2024 REEEEEEEEEEE --- Sig User Logic https://imgur.com/lA5fm7w ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AlphaCuck 11/16/21 3:27:16 PM #79: |
ViewtifulGrave posted...
Its the opposite actually. Back in 2015 or so she mentioned that she wants to bring in a new audience.yet she didn't. she made nostalgia wanks and sold toys to grown men. kids generally couldn't care less about these movies --- Nintendo should stop developing games - ONLY PUBLISH! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doom_Art 11/16/21 3:34:24 PM #80: |
AlphaCuck posted...
kids generally couldn't care less about these moviesI mean maybe you know more kids than I do but they still attract a pretty large audience from what I've seen --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Master_Bass 11/16/21 3:38:00 PM #81: |
masterpug53 posted...
Pardon me while I pretend to be outraged over this.This. Actually makes me laugh since it'll annoy people so much. --- Many Bothans died to bring you this post. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AlphaCuck 11/16/21 3:40:26 PM #82: |
Doom_Art posted...
I mean maybe you know more kids than I do but they still attract a pretty large audience from what I've seeni guarantee you if you ask 10 people with kids who saw these movies what they thought most will tell you they shrugged and forgot about them in a week. it's because they don't stimulate the imagination whatsoever because it's all reheated --- Nintendo should stop developing games - ONLY PUBLISH! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doom_Art 11/16/21 3:41:57 PM #83: |
AlphaCuck posted...
i guarantee you if you ask 10 people with kids who saw these movies what they thought most will tell you they shrugged and forgot about them in a week. it's because they don't stimulate the imagination whatsoever because it's all reheatedis this actually a thing you've done or are you projecting your own disappointment onto these imaginary hypothetical children --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lolife67 11/16/21 3:43:13 PM #84: |
AlphaCuck posted...
i guarantee you if you ask 10 people with kids who saw these movies what they thought most will tell you they shrugged and forgot about them in a week. it's because they don't stimulate the imagination whatsoever because it's all reheatedThis isn't how kids think lol They don't care about how original a story is. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AlphaCuck 11/16/21 3:43:56 PM #85: |
Doom_Art posted...
is this actually a thing you've done or are you projecting your own disappointment onto these imaginary hypothetical childrendo you get the sense that children are captivated by these movies the way the lucas ones did. i don't --- Nintendo should stop developing games - ONLY PUBLISH! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doom_Art 11/16/21 3:44:29 PM #86: |
So it's the latter then
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AlphaCuck 11/16/21 3:45:05 PM #87: |
lolife67 posted...
This isn't how kids think lol They don't care about how original a story is.yea they do respond to invention --- Nintendo should stop developing games - ONLY PUBLISH! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lolife67 11/16/21 3:47:10 PM #88: |
AlphaCuck posted...
yea they do respond to inventionNot that much, no. They like plenty of things that are rehashed. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doom_Art 11/16/21 3:48:39 PM #89: |
Like if you dislike the movies then you dislike the movies, but leave the kids out of it lol
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Gobstoppers12 11/16/21 3:56:02 PM #90: |
There are probably a lot of internal metrics and dynamics that went into this decision. Vocal fan backlash only means so much.
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Ilishe 11/16/21 10:03:07 PM #91: |
I think the best argument against this person would be
If you took a random hobo off the street and put them in charge would you still make about the same kind of money? Chances are yes --- ~Phoenix Nine~ ~Victory needs no explanation; defeat allows none.~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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InfinityMonster 11/16/21 10:30:49 PM #92: |
Xavier_On_High posted...
Same. All I can find is an interview with Rian Johnson in which he states that Kennedy suggested that Leia might have strong Force powers because Luke tells her she does in RotJ.Yeah, she didn't force it. It was RJ's idea. He explains the scene in the movie commentary. KK would bring up that Leia is also a Skywalker and Luke told her she has powers, but we've never seen them manifest. So RJ went with mirroring something like a mother lifting a car to save her children. The Force manifested in her because her job to save Ben wasn't done. --- "It lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shablagoo 11/17/21 12:21:38 PM #93: |
masterpug53 posted...
I kinda wanna live in this alternate fantasy universe where Kathleen Kennedy simply materialized out of an evil bog in the early 2010's for the exclusive purpose of ruining Star Wars with aggressively malignant feminism. haha --- "if i was a woman i would mail kyle rittenhouse my panties." ~ledbowman "Out of those two? Racist for me... easily." ~Vicious_Dios ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zero_Destroyer 11/17/21 12:32:29 PM #94: |
I was told by totally reliable youtube nerds that she was finished!!!111
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