Current Events > Professor sparks outrage for rebranding pedophiles as minor-attracted people.

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The most disgusting thing about this push is trying to treat it in the same way as a sexuality by using "born that way" terminology. We should be able to treat it like a mental illness without instantly jumping into hyperbole, but this disgusting idea that it's perfectly okay to publicly flaunt this shit is horrendous.

wonder how many kids have been brainwashed by this lunatic

DemonBuffet posted...

Good. Fuck that garbage that spews out of his mouth.
I get that society needs to progress. But pedophilia will never be ok. Fuck pedophiles.

This shit cracks me upin a completely non-funny way.

Little boy gets molested = victim
Little girl gets molested = victim

Little girl grows up and has issues = victim (or slut)
Little boy grows up and becomes a pedo. = HANG HIM!!!!

How will we ever break the cycle in any meaningful way if victims are too scared to even ask for help for fear of death for being something that they never asked to be?

Shit, Im nervous saying what Im saying now, because online anonymity makes it easy to say nasty shit like, thats what a pedo would say in response.

Lets just hang a few million men who are cursed both in what happened to them as boys and what the result turned out to be.

Its all so very sad.

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shockthemonkey posted...

Using trauma as an excuse does not break the cycle; it perpetuates it.

This, the problem is when a victim becomes an abuser themselves. It is also very common and boys are often harder to get to open up about abuse.

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People have been predicting this for a while. Things like this are getting more and more common. At some point there's gotta be a line drawn.

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shockthemonkey posted...

Using trauma as an excuse does not break the cycle; it perpetuates it.

Perpetuates what exactly? Children who are molested get fucked up from it. Right? If some boy turns out all fucked up when he grows up but hurts no onewhat is that perpetuating? I dont get it.

If someone confesses they are turned on by children and also says they think its because they were molested as a childwheres the excuse and how is it used? And why blind hatred when its obvious that its a result of them being victimized? Its like the final repercussion and people want to pretend its not and that its a choice. Acting on it is the choice, not the curse itself.

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NecroFoul99 posted...

If some boy turns out all fucked up when he grows up but hurts no one

Problem is, there's no reliable way to predict whether or not these people will hurt a child until they actually do it. Nobody is a criminal until they commit a crime, but some people have the potential to commit worse crimes than others. Even just confessing to an attraction to minors should get a person put on a list.

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Gobstoppers12 posted...

Problem is, there's no reliable way to predict whether or not these people will hurt a child until they actually do it. Nobody is a criminal until they commit a crime, but some people have the potential to commit worse crimes than others. Even just confessing to an attraction to minors should get a person put on a list.

Agreed. The problem with acceptance and anti-stigma folks is they want no list at all. They want to frame these people as a marginalized group and want them to not be restricted from things like working at an elementary school. They even try to frame perception such that 13 year olds aren't children. That particular argument was had here just a few days ago.

The guys who are now stalking me on this board can't answer what's the difference to sexual assault severity if we all of a sudden stop considering 13-14 year olds children. But they know, they just won't answer. You remove the classification of the victim, you then can move on to decriminalizing the actual crime.

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McgeesAlice808 posted...

Are we talking about pedophiles, the mentally ill, or pedophiles, the criminal child molesters?

Pedophiles are pedophiles. I believe pedophilia is a mental condition created through abuse.

Child molestation is a by-product and a criminal act, and its obviously extremely complicated. We certainly dont want to have a but it happened to me too defense so theres no penalty for destroying a young life.

My only real point and the reason for my post is that this blind hatred for all is too unreasonable.

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Crono99 posted...

I was beaten as a kid but that didnt make me grow up to want to beat kids.

That is a different kind of abuse.

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Crono99 posted...

I was beaten as a kid but that didnt make me grow up to want to beat kids.

8 billion people. Well need more than you for a proper case study. :)

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Gobstoppers12 posted...

Problem is, there's no reliable way to predict whether or not these people will hurt a child until they actually do it. Nobody is a criminal until they commit a crime, but some people have the potential to commit worse crimes than others. Even just confessing to an attraction to minors should get a person put on a list.

Too Orwellian for my taste. :)

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Pedos are like pitbulls. Not all pitbulls have eaten a baby yet but they all really want to.

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For the record, the percentage of Republicans that want to literally put black people back into slavery is significantly higher than the percentage of Democrats that want pedophilia to be socially acceptable.

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DarkChozoGhost posted...

For the record, the percentage of Republicans that want to literally put black people back into slavery is significantly higher than the percentage of Democrats that want pedophilia to be socially acceptable.

We hope, anyway

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gunplagirl posted...

$5 says you'd find illegal material if you searched this professor's hard drive and browsing history.

Exactly what I was thinking.

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some terms hit closer to home than others. of course "pedophile" will be one of those terms.

pedophiles should be put in that pedo file if it applies.
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doesn't this also apply to people who attracted to anything and don't act on it, though? these types of things are never discussed with topics like bestiality and all of that other stuff.

i think it makes sense though. it's all about preventing it from happening, right? i think the more people can do to stop these kinds of abuse from happening, the better.

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shockthemonkey posted...

Ok so if he doesnt perpetuate it then he doesnt perpetuate it I dont know what youre getting at here. I didnt say every victim perpetuates it - I said using past trauma as an excuse perpetuates it.

Our hatred and threats of murder perpetuate silence and no cycle will EVER be broken that way.

Admitting to being a pedophile and believing it's due to being molested...that's a staement of mental health fact and isn't perpetuating anything.

Using it as an excuse to go victimize a child...of course not. We cannot allow it used as an excuse to get away with a crime that destroys a life.

But this is just one way it's complicated. We already have clauses in effect that allow certain levels of mental duress to quantify a committed crime. It's been used in domestic violence and hate crime defenses...we've seen it. If we get to a point that pedophilia is seen as a victim's disease, we also have to agree that those mental health clauses cannot be used...but then we still let people who kill others use it? What to do? it's a lot easier just to hang them all, I guess.

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skermac posted...

isnt the actual definition someone thats attracted to kids?

Are you implying that I defined it as anything else?

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shockthemonkey posted...

I dont mean this in a hateful way, but like are you alright man? Youre not responding to my words. Youre quoting my posts and then going off in an entirely different direction than what my posts are saying.

Your words werent clear enough. Left too much for interpretation. And Im not angry or wanting to argue.

Perpetuates it. You said it. What is it? Being a pedophile or being a child molester? They are two separate things.

PLUSyou wrote it in response to my comment about blind hatred for pedophiles in general. So doubley confusing as to what you meant.

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shockthemonkey posted...

I dont mean this in a hateful way, but like are you alright man? Youre not responding to my words. Youre quoting my posts and then going off in an entirely different direction than what my posts are saying.

He's just trying to defend his position, lol. You see, a lion isn't a predator until it kills the gazelle. The correct term is carnivore. Two totally different things.

Get it?

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Leftists being leftists.

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Fony posted...

He's just trying to defend his position, lol. You see, a lion isn't a predator until it kills the gazelle. The correct term is carnivore. Two totally different things.

Get it?

Not really.

Pedophiles dont need to molest children in order to live.

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NecroFoul99 posted...

Pedophiles are pedophiles. I believe pedophilia is a mental condition created through abuse.

Child molestation is a by-product and a criminal act, and its obviously extremely complicated. We certainly dont want to have a but it happened to me too defense so theres no penalty for destroying a young life.

My only real point and the reason for my post is that this blind hatred for all is too unreasonable.

there is no current evidence-base for the treatment of pedophiles; just as there isn't for pyschopathy.

i'll leave that there as i flamed for expressing/reporting this in another thread.

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Biscotti posted...

there is no current evidence-base for the treatment of pedophiles;

There is one but it's in an ethically murky area.

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Kinda sussy

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Yes, getting pedos to get help before they abuse some kids is the good thing to do, but don't use fucking NAMBLA memes, jesus christ, what an idiot.

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I honestly don't give a shit what you want to call it. What pisses me off is that they are trying to normalize it.

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Biscotti posted...

there is no current evidence-base for the treatment of pedophiles; just as there isn't for pyschopathy.

i'll leave that there as i flamed for expressing/reporting this in another thread.

Yeah, I know there isn't.



A primary issue is that most of the case studies are comprised of people who failed that self-control and wound up abusing children.

What about the thousands, if not millions, who never act on it?

What have we learned from them? Not much, because most are too afraid to admit their mental condition, even to a medical professional.

I usually don't speak to this because it's such an emotional topic and it is difficult to just converse before anger, accusations and gaslighting come into the picture.

I understand the rage. I do. My life was also destroyed. But this blind hatred. This uncompromising position that all need to die...none of it is helping the children.

So few can see that.

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Nazanir posted...

I honestly don't give a shit what you want to call it. What pisses me off is that they are trying to normalize it.

Hate to break it to you...it's pretty fucking normal.

Millions of children are molested each year...it's not abnormal.

De-stigmatizing pedophilia, the mental condition many believe is brought on by childhood trauma, so that more people seek treatment before they commit a terrible act, isn't saying, "It's okay to be a molester'.

I truly believe, we're dooming our kids by making a mental condition just a case of a monster being a monster and writing them off.

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There are certain actions in society that we must not tolerate. There is a slippery slope and if we slide down it, it could mean lesser punishments for those who act on their desires and we can not tolerate that. The punishment has to be fierce. Any sympathy for pedophilic activity is a travesty and no amount of childhood trauma should justify a person's actions or get them a lesser sentence for them. I think that's a cop out. The person in the video is out of their mind.

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NecroFoul99 posted...

Hate to break it to you...it's pretty fucking normal.

Millions of children are molested each year...it's not abnormal.

Sheesh. Lets stop this right here. Something like pedophillia is not normal. The majority of the population are not pedophiles.

What you're saying here is like saying rape or murder is fucking normal too by this logic. Dude are you listening to your own words?

NecroFoul99 posted...

De-stigmatizing pedophilia, the mental condition many believe is brought on by childhood trauma, so that more people seek treatment before they commit a terrible act, isn't saying, "It's okay to be a molester'.

No, but the stigmatization should still be there because of the danger it leads to and the perverse nature. Because thats all it is. Perverted and twisted. There is no amount of reasoning you can come up with to dispute that at all.

Edit: If you don't stigmatize pedophillia, why would a pedophile seek help? He/she would believe its not as bad as people once thought it was then. Again, this will have a huge negative effect and it will just lead to it being normalized like a previous poster said.

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