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Slayer_22 11/01/21 11:25:55 PM #1:	Monika. She tortures her friends in the most fucked up ways. Making Sayori depressed enough that she kills herself, and telling her things that lead her to that decision. She makes Yuri crazy and obsessed enough, to the point where she actually realizes she is acting weird, that she kills herself to make sure she doesn't do anything to the MC(at least, if you accept her confession). She's straight evil. Yet every time I go and look at the DDLC reddit or whatever, just a bunch of people saying 'she wasn't that bad' or justifying it by saying the player is evil(how tf does that make sense?) or that it's justified. The fuck is wrong with people? You can still like Monika but recognize that she's absolutely 100% evil. --- "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE <cite>Slayer_22 posted [p:959609509] in How do peo... [t:79739542]...</cite> <quote>Monika. She tortures her friends in the most fucked up ways. Making Sayori depressed enough that she kills herself, and telling her things that lead her to that decision. She makes Yuri crazy and obsessed enough, to the point where she actually realizes she is acting weird, that she kills herself to make sure she doesn't do anything to the MC(at least, if you accept her confession). She's straight evil. Yet every time I go and look at the DDLC reddit or whatever, just a bunch of people saying 'she wasn't that bad' or justifying it by saying the player is evil(how tf does that make sense?) or that it's justified. The fuck is wrong with people? You can still like Monika but recognize that she's absolutely 100% evil.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kim_Seong-a 11/01/21 11:30:44 PM #2:	Because from Monika's POV, the other girls aren't real. She's the only active consciousness until the end. Morally speaking, it's no different than when we kill strippers in GTA. --- https://imgur.com/a/fqY7axi <cite>Kim_Seong-a posted [p:959609613] in How do peo... [t:79739542]...</cite> <quote>Because from Monika's POV, the other girls aren't real. She's the only active consciousness until the end. Morally speaking, it's no different than when we kill strippers in GTA. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Duncanwii 11/01/21 11:30:45 PM #3:	She deserves far more then deletion that's for sure. --- Hello I'm Duncan, I like Video Games and comedies let's be friends Donkey Kong is my friend! Come back anytime DK, don't be a stranger! <cite>Duncanwii posted [p:959609616] in How do peo... [t:79739542]...</cite> <quote>She deserves far more then deletion that's for sure.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KainWind 11/01/21 11:31:57 PM #4:	Nothing else matters. Just Monika. --- Momentai <cite>KainWind posted [p:959609644] in How do peo... [t:79739542]...</cite> <quote>Nothing else matters. Just Monika. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrMallard 11/01/21 11:32:56 PM #5:	There's a great fanfic where all the girls band together to murder and torture the protagonist multiple times. I listened to it throu a text to speech program, and when Yuri laughs in her chapter as she tortures the protag and cuts bits of his body off, the voice program has the most creepy, uncanny-valley laugh. It's called like Doki Doki Murder Club, I would honestly recommend it. --- Thought I saw a mouse kicking in your beak, it was only a skeleton Now Playing: Persona 3 FES, Minecraft, Oldschool Runescape <cite>MrMallard posted [p:959609671] in How do peo... [t:79739542]...</cite> <quote>There's a great fanfic where all the girls band together to murder and torture the protagonist multiple times. I listened to it throu a text to speech program, and when Yuri laughs in her chapter as she tortures the protag and cuts bits of his body off, the voice program has the most creepy, uncanny-valley laugh. It's called like Doki Doki Murder Club, I would honestly recommend it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BloodMoon7 11/01/21 11:36:36 PM #7:	I like her. --- My maid will destroy humanity. <cite>BloodMoon7 posted [p:959609760] in How do peo... [t:79739542]...</cite> <quote>I like her. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slayer_22 11/01/21 11:37:45 PM #8:	Kim_Seong-a posted... Because from Monika's POV, the other girls aren't real. She's the only active consciousness until the end. Morally speaking, it's no different than when we kill strippers in GTA. I don't think that's stated, is it? Regardless, that doesn't justify it. If she just killed them or immediately deleted, sure, that's something you can justify. But she actively tortured them mentally, and watched them fall apart. She actively mocked Sayori, and Yuri, and saw what she was doing was disturbing them. When she saw that Natsuki was writing about what she was doing and what Yuri was going through, she just straight up tried to force you to spend time with her. How is that not evil? She made 2 of her friends, the only people she's ever known, kill themselves. Ffs. --- "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE <cite>Slayer_22 posted [p:959609794] in How do peo... [t:79739542]...</cite> <quote>Kim_Seong-a posted...</cite> <quote>Because from Monika's POV, the other girls aren't real. She's the only active consciousness until the end. Morally speaking, it's no different than when we kill strippers in GTA. </quote> I don't think that's stated, is it? Regardless, that doesn't justify it. If she just killed them or immediately deleted, sure, that's something you can justify. But she actively tortured them mentally, and watched them fall apart. She actively mocked Sayori, and Yuri, and saw what she was doing was disturbing them. When she saw that Natsuki was writing about what she was doing and what Yuri was going through, she just straight up tried to force you to spend time with her. How is that not evil? She made 2 of her friends, the only people she's ever known, kill themselves. Ffs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slayer_22 11/01/21 11:39:45 PM #9:	MrMallard posted... There's a great fanfic where all the girls band together to murder and torture the protagonist multiple times. I listened to it throu a text to speech program, and when Yuri laughs in her chapter as she tortures the protag and cuts bits of his body off, the voice program has the most creepy, uncanny-valley laugh. It's called like Doki Doki Murder Club, I would honestly recommend it. That's pretty fucked up and definitely nothing the Dokis would do, though. Especially since the MC is the object of all of their affections(ignoring Monika). Yuri especially. BloodMoon7 posted... I like her. Nothing wrong with liking her. I like her too. She's a fucking evil monster, though. PyroBlade1985 posted... Same reason some people fall for psychopaths. Charm and looks. That does make sense, tbh. --- "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE <cite>Slayer_22 posted [p:959609837] in How do peo... [t:79739542]...</cite> <quote>MrMallard posted...</cite> <quote>There's a great fanfic where all the girls band together to murder and torture the protagonist multiple times. I listened to it throu a text to speech program, and when Yuri laughs in her chapter as she tortures the protag and cuts bits of his body off, the voice program has the most creepy, uncanny-valley laugh. It's called like Doki Doki Murder Club, I would honestly recommend it. </quote> That's pretty fucked up and definitely nothing the Dokis would do, though. Especially since the MC is the object of all of their affections(ignoring Monika). Yuri especially. BloodMoon7 posted...</cite> <quote>I like her. </quote> Nothing wrong with liking her. I like her too. She's a fucking evil monster, though. PyroBlade1985 posted...</cite> <quote>Same reason some people fall for psychopaths. Charm and looks. </quote> That does make sense, tbh.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ButteryMales 11/01/21 11:40:16 PM #10:	It's like how the main character from groundhog day ~~didn't care about killing people and himself.~~ We're Ive Lastor playing the game canon wise not ourselves. <cite>ButteryMales posted [p:959609848] in How do peo... [t:79739542]...</cite> <quote>It's like how the main character from groundhog day didn't care about killing people and himself. We're Ive Lastor playing the game canon wise not ourselves.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BloodMoon7 11/01/21 11:40:31 PM #11:	Slayer_22 posted... She's a fucking evil monster, though. That's hot --- My maid will destroy humanity. <cite>BloodMoon7 posted [p:959609855] in How do peo... [t:79739542]...</cite> <quote>Slayer_22 posted... </cite> <quote>She's a fucking evil monster, though.</quote>That's hot </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kim_Seong-a 11/01/21 11:43:08 PM #12:	Slayer_22 posted... I don't think that's stated, is it? I mean, there's a bad ending where Sayori becomes self-aware. She takes it about as well as Monika did. --- https://imgur.com/a/fqY7axi <cite>Kim_Seong-a posted [p:959609923] in How do peo... [t:79739542]...</cite> <quote>Slayer_22 posted... </cite> <quote>I don't think that's stated, is it?</quote> I mean, there's a bad ending where Sayori becomes self-aware. She takes it about as well as Monika did. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dingydang166 11/01/21 11:43:10 PM #13:	It is pretty explicitly stated that Monika knows they aren't real. She is no more the villain than you are for playing the game and making them go through it again. <cite>Dingydang166 posted [p:959609926] in How do peo... [t:79739542]...</cite> <quote>It is pretty explicitly stated that Monika knows they aren't real. She is no more the villain than you are for playing the game and making them go through it again. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slayer_22 11/01/21 11:46:55 PM #14:	Kim_Seong-a posted... I mean, there's a bad ending where Sayori becomes self-aware. She takes it about as well as Monika did. Yeah, because the title of club president seems to give whoever has it sentience. It's why when you ~~delete Monika at the start, you get Sayori having a mental breakdown before deleting everything including herself.~~ But that just proves Monika is torturing her friends despite them having some basic level of sentience. Something Sayori, Yuri, and Natsuki all show throughout the story. Yuri specifically shows that she knows Monika is doing something, she just doesn't know what and it's making her act weird, which disgusts her. --- "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE <cite>Slayer_22 posted [p:959610006] in How do peo... [t:79739542]...</cite> <quote>Kim_Seong-a posted...</cite> <quote> I mean, there's a bad ending where Sayori becomes self-aware. She takes it about as well as Monika did. </quote> Yeah, because the title of club president seems to give whoever has it sentience. It's why when you delete Monika at the start, you get Sayori having a mental breakdown before deleting everything including herself. But that just proves Monika is torturing her friends despite them having some basic level of sentience. Something Sayori, Yuri, and Natsuki all show throughout the story. Yuri specifically shows that she knows Monika is doing something, she just doesn't know what and it's making her act weird, which disgusts her.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 11/01/21 11:57:21 PM #15:	Her actions are pretty fucked up, but keep in mind her mental state isn't all that great either. She's trapped in a game, aware of it, and is basically an NPC. She reached a point where she was considering killing herself as well, only refraining from doing so because that would mean losing her one real connection, you. Even when she was doing the things she was doing, she was in denial herself. Which is why she kept trying to rub in "they're not real". ...Except she grew too attached to them to completely get rid of them. Deep down, she likely knew what she was doing was wrong... she was just too desperate to stop herself. So does all of that justify anything? No, but perhaps it makes her tragic. She never asked for what was given to her, and I think anyone in her position wouldn't take it well. ~~Sayori sure doesn't in the bad ending.~~ Then there's DDLC Plus... ~~A separate universe where she~~ ~~isn't~~ aware, nor given any administrative ability. She and the girls are all far more sane. Though their issues are still there(Sayori even tells Monika "Some days, I want to die".), Monika is more caring and supporting in this universe, and without her amplifying anything the other Dokis are more able to handle their mental trauma. ...and then you look at the base game and you feel even sadder. --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) 12-18-19 and 01-13-21: Times Donald Trump has officially been impeached. <cite>Umbreon posted [p:959610254] in How do peo... [t:79739542]...</cite> <quote>Her actions are pretty fucked up, but keep in mind her mental state isn't all that great either. She's trapped in a game, aware of it, and is basically an NPC. She reached a point where she was considering killing herself as well, only refraining from doing so because that would mean losing her one real connection, you. Even when she was doing the things she was doing, she was in denial herself. Which is why she kept trying to rub in "they're not real". ...Except she grew too attached to them to completely get rid of them. Deep down, she likely knew what she was doing was wrong... she was just too desperate to stop herself. So does all of that justify anything? No, but perhaps it makes her tragic. She never asked for what was given to her, and I think anyone in her position wouldn't take it well. Sayori sure doesn't in the bad ending. Then there's DDLC Plus... A separate universe where she isn't aware, nor given any administrative ability. She and the girls are all far more sane. Though their issues are still there(Sayori even tells Monika "Some days, I want to die".), Monika is more caring and supporting in this universe, and without her amplifying anything the other Dokis are more able to handle their mental trauma. ...and then you look at the base game and you feel even sadder. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slayer_22 11/02/21 12:03:36 AM #16:	Umbreon posted... Her actions are pretty fucked up, but keep in mind her mental state isn't all that great either. She's trapped in a game, aware of it, and is basically an NPC. She reached a point where she was considering killing herself as well, only refraining from doing so because that would mean losing her one real connection, you. Even when she was doing the things she was doing, she was in denial herself. Which is why she kept trying to rub in "they're not real". ...Except she grew too attached to them to completely get rid of them. Deep down, she likely knew what she was doing was wrong... she was just too desperate to stop herself. So does all of that justify anything? No, but perhaps it makes her tragic. She never asked for what was given to her, and I think anyone in her position wouldn't take it well. ~~Sayori sure doesn't in the bad ending.~~ Then there's DDLC Plus... ~~A separate universe where she~~ ~~isn't~~ aware, nor given any administrative ability. She and the girls are all far more sane. Though their issues are still there(Sayori even tells Monika "Some days, I want to die".), Monika is more caring and supporting in this universe, and without her amplifying anything the other Dokis are more able to handle their mental trauma. ...and then you look at the base game and you feel even sadder. Like I said, it's perfectly fine to like a character like that. Or understand them. I mean, I know all of the above info. But even when ~~Sayori is president, she doesn't go making the other girls psycho~~. Monika is just evil. It isn't justified, it isn't okay. She's an evil character. With understandable intentions. And that's fine. --- "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE <cite>Slayer_22 posted [p:959610411] in How do peo... [t:79739542]...</cite> <quote>Umbreon posted...</cite> <quote>Her actions are pretty fucked up, but keep in mind her mental state isn't all that great either. She's trapped in a game, aware of it, and is basically an NPC. She reached a point where she was considering killing herself as well, only refraining from doing so because that would mean losing her one real connection, you. Even when she was doing the things she was doing, she was in denial herself. Which is why she kept trying to rub in "they're not real". ...Except she grew too attached to them to completely get rid of them. Deep down, she likely knew what she was doing was wrong... she was just too desperate to stop herself. So does all of that justify anything? No, but perhaps it makes her tragic. She never asked for what was given to her, and I think anyone in her position wouldn't take it well. Sayori sure doesn't in the bad ending. Then there's DDLC Plus... A separate universe where she isn't aware, nor given any administrative ability. She and the girls are all far more sane. Though their issues are still there(Sayori even tells Monika "Some days, I want to die".), Monika is more caring and supporting in this universe, and without her amplifying anything the other Dokis are more able to handle their mental trauma. ...and then you look at the base game and you feel even sadder. </quote> Like I said, it's perfectly fine to like a character like that. Or understand them. I mean, I know all of the above info. But even when Sayori is president, she doesn't go making the other girls psycho. Monika is just evil. It isn't justified, it isn't okay. She's an evil character. With understandable intentions. And that's fine.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lairen 11/02/21 12:06:54 AM #17:	Monika: "This is just a video game and you can delete me which takes away any gravity from any events that happened." --- When it rains, it pours. <cite>Lairen posted [p:959610472] in How do peo... [t:79739542]...</cite> <quote>Monika: "This is just a video game and you can delete me which takes away any gravity from any events that happened." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 11/02/21 12:17:14 AM #18:	Her intentions are what counts for a lot of people. If she was just "I'm evil and now I shall rule the world!", then yeah she'd be a lot more hated(And not just because ruling the world would make her terribly cliched). She genuinely cares for you, a person she doesn't even know the true appearance of. Her methods of getting a stranger's attention is very wrong but... Yandere is gonna yandere it up. Some of her talks late game can really humanize her as well. Evil? Perhaps, but shit man it didn't have to be that way. If she wasn't driven insane, she could have been happy too. Cue "Save them all" mods. --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) 12-18-19 and 01-13-21: Times Donald Trump has officially been impeached. <cite>Umbreon posted [p:959610699] in How do peo... [t:79739542]...</cite> <quote>Her intentions are what counts for a lot of people. If she was just "I'm evil and now I shall rule the world!", then yeah she'd be a lot more hated(And not just because ruling the world would make her terribly cliched). She genuinely cares for you, a person she doesn't even know the true appearance of. Her methods of getting a stranger's attention is very wrong but... Yandere is gonna yandere it up. Some of her talks late game can really humanize her as well. Evil? Perhaps, but shit man it didn't have to be that way. If she wasn't driven insane, she could have been happy too. Cue "Save them all" mods. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ving_Rhames 11/02/21 12:18:45 AM #19:	Cuz weebs are gross. --- the real Irving Rameses https://imgur.com/A7f6F9h <cite>Ving_Rhames posted [p:959610730] in How do peo... [t:79739542]...</cite> <quote>Cuz weebs are gross. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slayer_22 11/02/21 12:22:04 AM #20:	Umbreon posted... Her intentions are what counts for a lot of people. If she was just "I'm evil and now I shall rule the world!", then yeah she'd be a lot more hated(And not just because ruling the world would make her terribly cliched). She genuinely cares for you, a person she doesn't even know the true appearance of. Her methods of getting a stranger's attention is very wrong but... Yandere is gonna yandere it up. Some of her talks late game can really humanize her as well. Evil? Perhaps, but shit man it didn't have to be that way. If she wasn't driven insane, she could have been happy too. Cue "Save them all" mods. Like I said, Sayori didn't go ahead and make Yuri so fucked in the head that she went crazy. And didn't snap Natsuki's neck. And didn't bring anyone to suicide. Yet she was in the same situation as Monika. And hell, the one time she's part of the choices, she actively forces you to pick her(in the scene where you can choose Monika, Yuri, or Natsuki, but it forces you to pick Monika). Her intentions are to force you to be with her, despite who you want. That is still incredibly evil. --- "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE <cite>Slayer_22 posted [p:959610799] in How do peo... [t:79739542]...</cite> <quote>Umbreon posted...</cite> <quote>Her intentions are what counts for a lot of people. If she was just "I'm evil and now I shall rule the world!", then yeah she'd be a lot more hated(And not just because ruling the world would make her terribly cliched). She genuinely cares for you, a person she doesn't even know the true appearance of. Her methods of getting a stranger's attention is very wrong but... Yandere is gonna yandere it up. Some of her talks late game can really humanize her as well. Evil? Perhaps, but shit man it didn't have to be that way. If she wasn't driven insane, she could have been happy too. Cue "Save them all" mods. </quote> Like I said, Sayori didn't go ahead and make Yuri so fucked in the head that she went crazy. And didn't snap Natsuki's neck. And didn't bring anyone to suicide. Yet she was in the same situation as Monika. And hell, the one time she's part of the choices, she actively forces you to pick her(in the scene where you can choose Monika, Yuri, or Natsuki, but it forces you to pick Monika). Her intentions are to force you to be with her, despite who you want. That is still incredibly evil.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ButteryMales 11/02/21 12:30:00 AM #21:	Slayer_22 posted... Yet she was in the same situation as Monika. Was she? Did she remember her lives before the two playthroughs? <cite>ButteryMales posted [p:959610940] in How do peo... [t:79739542]...</cite> <quote>Slayer_22 posted...</cite><quote>Yet she was in the same situation as Monika.</quote>Was she? Did she remember her lives before the two playthroughs?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 11/02/21 12:36:45 AM #22:	Sayori didn't have time to do any of that. That said, there's a good chance she wouldn't since Sayori is more sentimental ~~to the point where the good ending requires you to spend some time with Monika as well~~. Though an Easter Egg shows she would still he driven mad by her newfound knowledge. ~~Start a new game, and delete Monika before starting the game.~~ ~~"Now everyone can be happy..."~~ Slayer_22 posted... And hell, the one time she's part of the choices, she actively forces you to pick her(in the scene where you can choose Monika, Yuri, or Natsuki, but it forces you to pick Monika). Her intentions are to force you to be with her, despite who you want Well... yandere. Her actions are wrong, but they're also not the actions of a sane individual. Let me put it to you this way. When it comes down do it? The girl with the least mental issues is Natsuki. Even without Monika doing a damn thing, ~~Sayori is depressed to the point of contemplating suicide, and Yuri has a self harm habit.~~ Monika..., well you've played the game. ~~She's far more sane in the DDLC Plus universe of course. A glimpse of what she'd normally be like.~~ --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) 12-18-19 and 01-13-21: Times Donald Trump has officially been impeached. <cite>Umbreon posted [p:959611041] in How do peo... [t:79739542]...</cite> <quote>Sayori didn't have time to do any of that. That said, there's a good chance she wouldn't since Sayori is more sentimental to the point where the good ending requires you to spend some time with Monika as well. Though an Easter Egg shows she would still he driven mad by her newfound knowledge. Start a new game, and delete Monika before starting the game. "Now everyone can be happy..." Slayer_22 posted... </cite> <quote>And hell, the one time she's part of the choices, she actively forces you to pick her(in the scene where you can choose Monika, Yuri, or Natsuki, but it forces you to pick Monika). Her intentions are to force you to be with her, despite who you want</quote> Well... yandere. Her actions are wrong, but they're also not the actions of a sane individual. Let me put it to you this way. When it comes down do it? The girl with the least mental issues is Natsuki. Even without Monika doing a damn thing, Sayori is depressed to the point of contemplating suicide, and Yuri has a self harm habit. Monika..., well you've played the game. She's far more sane in the DDLC Plus universe of course. A glimpse of what she'd normally be like. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jeff AKA Snoopy 11/02/21 12:37:37 AM #23:	Monika was just trying to test the limits of her power in that world... and there is a lot of evidence to suggest that the AI that is using the Monika avatar is not really "Monika" --- https://imgur.com/GWG5c3r <cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted [p:959611054] in How do peo... [t:79739542]...</cite> <quote>Monika was just trying to test the limits of her power in that world... and there is a lot of evidence to suggest that the AI that is using the Monika avatar is not really "Monika" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeathDeathSong 11/02/21 12:38:55 AM #24:	monika best girl --- * MY HEARTS GO OUT TO ALL YOU SINNERS!! * [Heaven], are you WATCHING? <cite>DeathDeathSong posted [p:959611077] in How do peo... [t:79739542]...</cite> <quote>monika best girl </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PiOverlord 11/02/21 12:42:20 AM #25:	Don't talk trash about Monika. That's my wife you're talking about. --- Number of legendary 500 post topics: 33, 500th posts: 31; PiO ATTN: 5 RotM wins 1, LETTEN MY ARROW FLYEN TRUE <cite>PiOverlord posted [p:959611151] in How do peo... [t:79739542]...</cite> <quote>Don't talk trash about Monika. That's my wife you're talking about. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackHorse6969 11/02/21 12:47:20 AM #26:	Monika isnt evil. Her actions were programmed that way by the maker of the game. If you want to call someone evil, call the maker of the game evil. Cuz he wrote it that way --- https://imgur.com/dMnyy10 <cite>BlackHorse6969 posted [p:959611224] in How do peo... [t:79739542]...</cite> <quote>Monika isnt evil. Her actions were programmed that way by the maker of the game. If you want to call someone evil, call the maker of the game evil. Cuz he wrote it that way </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slayer_22 11/02/21 1:07:57 AM #27:	ButteryMales posted... Was she? Did she remember her lives before the two playthroughs? Considering she mentioned the stuff that happened with Monika, it's safe to assume that yes, she did. BlackHorse6969 posted... Monika isnt evil. Her actions were programmed that way by the maker of the game. If you want to call someone evil, call the maker of the game evil. Cuz he wrote it that way Talking lore wise my dude lol, not saying the character is evil of her own volition lol. --- "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE <cite>Slayer_22 posted [p:959611617] in How do peo... [t:79739542]...</cite> <quote>ButteryMales posted...</cite> <quote>Was she? Did she remember her lives before the two playthroughs?</quote> Considering she mentioned the stuff that happened with Monika, it's safe to assume that yes, she did. BlackHorse6969 posted...</cite> <quote>Monika isnt evil. Her actions were programmed that way by the maker of the game. If you want to call someone evil, call the maker of the game evil. Cuz he wrote it that way </quote> Talking lore wise my dude lol, not saying the character is evil of her own volition lol.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ButteryMales 11/02/21 1:13:11 AM #28:	Slayer_22 posted... Considering she mentioned the stuff that happened with Monika, it's safe to assume that yes, she did. She killed herself and then Monica Jerry rigged a reboot. Doesn't really prove she knows more than the two last playthroughs. <cite>ButteryMales posted [p:959611705] in How do peo... [t:79739542]...</cite> <quote>Slayer_22 posted...</cite><quote>Considering she mentioned the stuff that happened with Monika, it's safe to assume that yes, she did.</quote>She killed herself and then Monica Jerry rigged a reboot. Doesn't really prove she knows more than the two last playthroughs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackHorse6969 11/02/21 1:30:55 AM #29:	Slayer_22 posted... Considering she mentioned the stuff that happened with Monika, it's safe to assume that yes, she did. Talking lore wise my dude lol, not saying the character is evil of her own volition lol. Go play doki doki lit plus --- https://imgur.com/dMnyy10 <cite>BlackHorse6969 posted [p:959611957] in How do peo... [t:79739542]...</cite> <quote>Slayer_22 posted... </cite> <quote>Considering she mentioned the stuff that happened with Monika, it's safe to assume that yes, she did. Talking lore wise my dude lol, not saying the character is evil of her own volition lol.</quote>Go play doki doki lit plus </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Angel_ 11/02/21 1:31:28 AM #30:	Still salty about Monika being the superior choice I see --- Nostalgia, how I remember things. Remember crowns, remember kings. <cite>_Angel_ posted [p:959611965] in How do peo... [t:79739542]...</cite> <quote>Still salty about Monika being the superior choice I see </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slayer_22 11/02/21 1:35:05 AM #31:	ButteryMales posted... She killed herself and then Monica Jerry rigged a reboot. Doesn't really prove she knows more than the two last playthroughs. "I know how hard you tried to keep everyone happy. I know about all the awful things Monika did to make everyone really sad..." It's right in the ending. She outright says it. What game were you playing? BlackHorse6969 posted... Go play doki doki lit plus I have it on my switch. What point are you trying to make? --- "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE <cite>Slayer_22 posted [p:959611996] in How do peo... [t:79739542]...</cite> <quote>ButteryMales posted...</cite> <quote>She killed herself and then Monica Jerry rigged a reboot. Doesn't really prove she knows more than the two last playthroughs.</quote> "I know how hard you tried to keep everyone happy. I know about all the awful things Monika did to make everyone really sad..." It's right in the ending. She outright says it. What game were you playing? BlackHorse6969 posted...</cite> <quote> Go play doki doki lit plus </quote> I have it on my switch. What point are you trying to make?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slayer_22 11/02/21 1:35:36 AM #32:	_Angel_ posted... Still salty about Monika being the superior choice I see [Insert picture of TRASH here] --- "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE <cite>Slayer_22 posted [p:959612006] in How do peo... [t:79739542]...</cite> <quote>_Angel_ posted...</cite> <quote>Still salty about Monika being the superior choice I see </quote> [Insert picture of TRASH here]</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Angel_ 11/02/21 1:37:57 AM #33:	https://youtu.be/hwZNL7QVJjE Monika will stand by you. 100% factuals --- Nostalgia, how I remember things. Remember crowns, remember kings. <cite>_Angel_ posted [p:959612036] in How do peo... [t:79739542]...</cite> <quote>https://youtu.be/hwZNL7QVJjE Monika will stand by you. 100% factuals </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ButteryMales 11/02/21 1:41:45 AM #35:	Slayer_22 posted... "I know how hard you tried to keep everyone happy. I know about all the awful things Monika did to make everyone really sad..." It's right in the ending. She outright says it. What game were you playing We weren't playing it. Ive Lastor didn't try to make everyone happy and the "protagonist" wasn't in every reboot of the VM. <cite>ButteryMales posted [p:959612085] in How do peo... [t:79739542]...</cite> <quote>Slayer_22 posted...</cite><quote>"I know how hard you tried to keep everyone happy. I know about all the awful things Monika did to make everyone really sad..." It's right in the ending. She outright says it. What game were you playing</quote>We weren't playing it. Ive Lastor didn't try to make everyone happy and the "protagonist" wasn't in every reboot of the VM.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Illuminoius 11/02/21 1:45:14 AM #36:	"x did nothing wrong" is just a meme <cite>Illuminoius posted [p:959612136] in How do peo... [t:79739542]...</cite> <quote>"x did nothing wrong" is just a meme </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slayer_22 11/02/21 1:58:21 AM #37:	Illuminoius posted... "x did nothing wrong" is just a meme Nah, the threads are legitimately people justifying her actions and saying she wasn't evil. There are a ton of threads on it on the reddit for the game. SerperiorThanU posted... If you've read the secret files that appear in your folder during act 2 , during her act 3 dialogue, and one of the random poems that pop up, you can see that Monika is also depressed and suicidal and has even cut herself stating she understands how Yuri feels now while contemplating killing herself. https://ddlcwiki.net/wiki/Special_poems The main reason is because she realizes the error of her ways and wants you to have a good ending. She also stays dead and refuses to come back if you try to put her character file back in. I know all this. All I'm saying is, she's still evil as fuck. ButteryMales posted... We weren't playing it. Ive Lastor didn't try to make everyone happy and the "protagonist" wasn't in every reboot of the VM. I'm pretty sure we were playing it. It uses our screen name. --- "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE <cite>Slayer_22 posted [p:959612291] in How do peo... [t:79739542]...</cite> <quote>Illuminoius posted...</cite> <quote>"x did nothing wrong" is just a meme </quote> Nah, the threads are legitimately people justifying her actions and saying she wasn't evil. There are a ton of threads on it on the reddit for the game. SerperiorThanU posted...</cite> <quote>If you've read the secret files that appear in your folder during act 2 , during her act 3 dialogue, and one of the random poems that pop up, you can see that Monika is also depressed and suicidal and has even cut herself stating she understands how Yuri feels now while contemplating killing herself. https://ddlcwiki.net/wiki/Special_poems The main reason is because she realizes the error of her ways and wants you to have a good ending. She also stays dead and refuses to come back if you try to put her character file back in. </quote> I know all this. All I'm saying is, she's still evil as fuck. ButteryMales posted...</cite> <quote>We weren't playing it. Ive Lastor didn't try to make everyone happy and the "protagonist" wasn't in every reboot of the VM.</quote> I'm pretty sure we were playing it. It uses our screen name.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Illuminoius 11/02/21 2:01:57 AM #38:	Slayer_22 posted... Nah, the threads are legitimately people justifying her actions and saying she wasn't evil. There are a ton of threads on it on the reddit for the game. this happens with every """sympathetic""" antagonist it's a meme, people go to ridiculous lengths to defend the character as a joke <cite>Illuminoius posted [p:959612329] in How do peo... [t:79739542]...</cite> <quote>Slayer_22 posted... </cite> <quote>Nah, the threads are legitimately people justifying her actions and saying she wasn't evil. There are a ton of threads on it on the reddit for the game.</quote>this happens with every """sympathetic""" antagonist it's a meme, people go to ridiculous lengths to defend the character as a joke </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slayer_22 11/02/21 2:04:42 AM #39:	Illuminoius posted... this happens with every """sympathetic""" antagonist it's a meme, people go to ridiculous lengths to defend the character as a joke Yes. I know what memes are and when people are playing into it. But even these people are masterful trolls that aren't even being the slightest hint of sarcastic, you are seriously grasping at straws to pretend that every single one is that way, dude. --- "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE <cite>Slayer_22 posted [p:959612361] in How do peo... [t:79739542]...</cite> <quote>Illuminoius posted...</cite> <quote> this happens with every """sympathetic""" antagonist it's a meme, people go to ridiculous lengths to defend the character as a joke </quote> Yes. I know what memes are and when people are playing into it. But even these people are masterful trolls that aren't even being the slightest hint of sarcastic, you are seriously grasping at straws to pretend that every single one is that way, dude.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ButteryMales 11/02/21 2:13:15 AM #41:	Slayer_22 posted... I'm pretty sure we were playing it. It uses our screen name. On a metaverse work laptop. Ive has the same screen name <cite>ButteryMales posted [p:959612455] in How do peo... [t:79739542]...</cite> <quote>Slayer_22 posted...</cite><quote>I'm pretty sure we were playing it. It uses our screen name.</quote>On a metaverse work laptop. Ive has the same screen name</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackHorse6969 11/02/21 2:16:43 AM #42:	ButteryMales posted... On a metaverse work laptop. Ive has the same screen name Tc just got owned --- https://imgur.com/dMnyy10 <cite>BlackHorse6969 posted [p:959612494] in How do peo... [t:79739542]...</cite> <quote>ButteryMales posted... </cite> <quote>On a metaverse work laptop. Ive has the same screen name</quote>Tc just got owned </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slayer_22 11/02/21 2:19:03 AM #43:	SerperiorThanU posted... Well, yes, she was evil and is the villain of the game. She's not some joker level sadist though and she realizes the error of her ways and repents for it with her death. Also, the people she's "killed" are brought back by herself. So it's perfectly fine to drive someone to kill themselves as long as they are brought back? There is no justification for it. She did that, she's evil. He'll, it looked like she was having a damn good time as Yuri was falling apart mentally, she's giggling while making jokes about how Yuri is acting. That sure as hell sounds like a sadist, especially considering she leaves you to stare at Yuri's corpse for days on end. And I don't think she actually deleted herself fully, as an aside. She still shows up to delete everything after Sayori becomes president, after all. ButteryMales posted... On a metaverse work laptop. Ive has the same screen name Much easier to believe a YouTuber than trust in Occam's Razor and trust the information given to us by the game and the characters itself, eh? --- "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE <cite>Slayer_22 posted [p:959612527] in How do peo... [t:79739542]...</cite> <quote>SerperiorThanU posted...</cite> <quote> Well, yes, she was evil and is the villain of the game. She's not some joker level sadist though and she realizes the error of her ways and repents for it with her death. Also, the people she's "killed" are brought back by herself. </quote> So it's perfectly fine to drive someone to kill themselves as long as they are brought back? There is no justification for it. She did that, she's evil. He'll, it looked like she was having a damn good time as Yuri was falling apart mentally, she's giggling while making jokes about how Yuri is acting. That sure as hell sounds like a sadist, especially considering she leaves you to stare at Yuri's corpse for days on end. And I don't think she actually deleted herself fully, as an aside. She still shows up to delete everything after Sayori becomes president, after all. ButteryMales posted...</cite> <quote>On a metaverse work laptop. Ive has the same screen name</quote> Much easier to believe a YouTuber than trust in Occam's Razor and trust the information given to us by the game and the characters itself, eh?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackHorse6969 11/02/21 2:19:24 AM #44:	SerperiorThanU posted... Well, yes, she was evil and is the villain of the game. She's not some joker level sadist though and she realizes the error of her ways and repents for it with her death. Also, the people she's "killed" are brought back by herself. I like your use of sarcasm to state that that isnt what evil people do --- https://imgur.com/dMnyy10 <cite>BlackHorse6969 posted [p:959612531] in How do peo... [t:79739542]...</cite> <quote>SerperiorThanU posted... </cite> <quote>Well, yes, she was evil and is the villain of the game. She's not some joker level sadist though and she realizes the error of her ways and repents for it with her death. Also, the people she's "killed" are brought back by herself.</quote>I like your use of sarcasm to state that that isnt what evil people do </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ButteryMales 11/02/21 2:34:27 AM #46:	Slayer_22 posted... ButteryMales posted... On a metaverse work laptop. Ive has the same screen name Much easier to believe a YouTuber than trust in Occam's Razor and trust the information given to us by the game and the characters itself, eh? It is in the game. Slayer_22 posted... What game were you playing? Doki Doki Literature Club is the most hilarious thing to Occam's Razor. What's the Occam's razor for why the protagonist starts greaving for Sayori? Dan Salvato says he's not a character. <cite>ButteryMales posted [p:959612710] in How do peo... [t:79739542]...</cite> <quote>Slayer_22 posted...</cite><quote>ButteryMales posted...</cite><quote>On a metaverse work laptop. Ive has the same screen name</quote>Much easier to believe a YouTuber than trust in Occam's Razor and trust the information given to us by the game and the characters itself, eh?</quote>It is in the game. Slayer_22 posted...</cite><quote>What game were you playing?</quote> Doki Doki Literature Club is the most hilarious thing to Occam's Razor. What's the Occam's razor for why the protagonist starts greaving for Sayori? Dan Salvato says he's not a character.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dave_is_slick 11/02/21 2:41:41 AM #47:	Slayer_22 posted... I don't think that's stated, is it? It's directly stated. --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM <cite>dave_is_slick posted [p:959612789] in How do peo... [t:79739542]...</cite> <quote>Slayer_22 posted... </cite> <quote>I don't think that's stated, is it?</quote>It's directly stated. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Turbam 11/02/21 2:42:23 AM #48:	Because she's hot --- ~snip (V)_(;,;)_(V) snip~ I'm just one man! Whoa! Well, I'm a one man band! https://imgur.com/p9Xvjvs <cite>Turbam posted [p:959612797] in How do peo... [t:79739542]...</cite> <quote>Because she's hot </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
refmon 11/02/21 2:46:47 AM #49:	Kim_Seong-a posted... Morally speaking, it's no different than when we kill strippers in GTA. --- If you read this signature, then that meant that I had control of what you read for 5 SECONDS!! <cite>refmon posted [p:959612845] in How do peo... [t:79739542]...</cite> <quote>Kim_Seong-a posted... </cite> <quote>Morally speaking, it's no different than when we kill strippers in GTA.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dancing_cactuar 11/02/21 2:52:26 AM #50:	Combination of realizing that those characters to her are as real as the civilians in a GTA game, that she herself is a fictional character bound to an extremely limited realm even including her level of control over the game, and going through Bill Murray's Groundhog Day arc where he acts like a total asshole and engages in crimes when realizing that he's in a time loop. --- I don't need to see a movie to know how well the characters are handled- Danyarmy The PS5 has liquid metal tech like the T-1000 Terminator- AceCombatX <cite>dancing_cactuar posted [p:959612905] in How do peo... [t:79739542]...</cite> <quote>Combination of realizing that those characters to her are as real as the civilians in a GTA game, that she herself is a fictional character bound to an extremely limited realm even including her level of control over the game, and going through Bill Murray's Groundhog Day arc where he acts like a total asshole and engages in crimes when realizing that he's in a time loop. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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