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ZMythos
10/03/21 1:52:43 PM
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5/29 kids have turned it in so far.

14 haven't even started it


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RchHomieQuanChi
10/03/21 1:53:09 PM
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Sounds about right

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Billyionaire
10/03/21 1:55:43 PM
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U got ghosted lol

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10/03/21 1:55:43 PM
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cuh posted...
Due at midnight? Im curious as to what would be the latest that a student starts it

11:59

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ZMythos
10/03/21 1:55:47 PM
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And by last week, I mean I assigned it on Monday and gave the kids Monday-Wednesday to work on all of their online assignments.

Plus they get one retake opportunity and only need to fix the problems they got wrong.

Ugh. Just gotta have faith they'll do it I guess. And if not this will be a lesson in time management.

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unknownhombre
10/03/21 1:56:08 PM
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...
Sounds about right


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ZMythos
10/03/21 1:56:22 PM
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cuh posted...
Due at midnight? Im curious as to what would be the latest that a student starts it

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11:59
Yea, it's due at 11:59PM tonight.


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PiOverlord
10/03/21 1:57:24 PM
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Eh, us students have the mindset of only do it when we have to

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ZMythos
10/03/21 1:59:17 PM
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The online stuff I'm using is pretty good. User friendly, auto-grades for me, and gives students the option to check their answers (on homework only, not on assessments).

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Jefejonny
10/03/21 2:02:56 PM
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Those little monsters!

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Doe
10/03/21 2:03:32 PM
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I don't turn in stuff electronically until 0-2 hours before the due time.

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furb
10/03/21 2:03:39 PM
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Yeah due date on a weekend is whack

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ZMythos
10/03/21 11:20:17 PM
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Update: 13/29 have turned it in with less than two hours to go!


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Master Kazuya
10/03/21 11:22:57 PM
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I hope you don't use Proctorio or any of those invasive apps

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ZMythos
10/03/21 11:23:40 PM
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Captain_Qwark posted...
How bad are the consequences for not turning it in?

I normally offer students a retake if they didn't do very well, and it's just on the problems they got wrong.

So, turning it in late = no retake.

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LordFarquad1312
10/03/21 11:25:34 PM
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Bet the online tutoring platform I work at is gonna be busy tonight

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ZMythos
10/03/21 11:25:36 PM
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Master Kazuya posted...
I hope you don't use Proctorio or any of those invasive apps
Never heard of it.

I use a platform called "Big Ideas" which is owned by Houghton Mifflin Harcourt

Fun fact, I bought shares of their stock last year during covid at $3.00 a share, thinking it would go up due to virtual teaching. After two months, I sold at $2.50

And now it's worth $14.00 a share! :'D

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ZMythos
10/03/21 11:28:04 PM
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The website also tells me who is working on it "in progress" and who hasn't even started it.

Of the 16 who have yet to turn it in, 8 of them haven't even began :D

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SSJ2GrimReaper
10/03/21 11:29:40 PM
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because math sucks

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ZMythos
10/03/21 11:30:16 PM
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Here's an example of one of the test questions.

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Turtlebread
10/03/21 11:31:53 PM
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ZMythos posted...


Here's an example of one of the test questions.

thats fucking impossible no wonder no one is doing it


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ZMythos
10/03/21 11:32:54 PM
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Turtlebread posted...
thats fucking impossible no wonder no one is doing it
Uh, are you serious?

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Turtlebread
10/03/21 11:34:05 PM
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ZMythos posted...
Uh, are you serious?

yeah dude who tf are you teaching? math phds???


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ZMythos
10/03/21 11:34:36 PM
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Turtlebread posted...
yeah dude who tf are you teaching? math phds???

They're mostly 10th and 11th graders???

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LordFarquad1312
10/03/21 11:35:13 PM
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ZMythos posted...
Uh, are you serious?
TC, have you not seen the kid going around asking people to translate things like the conversion from Kevin to Celsius into an equation for them when all the have to do is change the word "plus" for a "+" and equals for a "="?

Most people are completely math illiterate.


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Turtlebread
10/03/21 11:35:14 PM
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ZMythos posted...
They're mostly 10th and 11th graders???

wtf??? this some baby genius type shit????

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Kitt
10/03/21 11:36:09 PM
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This reminds me of this poor sap back in State University -- it was only the third week of school and this dude was failing a class bad. His grade was in the 20's.
I hate seeing other people's bad grades. It gives me anxiety. But, like, how the fuck you do that, bro? Like, it's only week 3. What were doing the whole time? Were you coming to class closing your eyes? Like, yo, were you plugging your ears during lecture or something?

I always think about that.

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ZMythos
10/03/21 11:36:32 PM
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LordFarquad1312 posted...
Most people are completely math illiterate.
That's kind of why I'm here.

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Winrawr
10/03/21 11:38:54 PM
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You really shouldn't put due dates at midnight. It promotes unhealthy sleeping habits. Best put it die around 6 or 7 pm
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ZMythos
10/03/21 11:40:26 PM
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Winrawr posted...
You really shouldn't put due dates at midnight. It promotes unhealthy sleeping habits. Best put it die around 6 or 7 pm
I've tried that. I then get 20 or so students and parents emailing me about how they/their child is working and therefore can't do the assignment.


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LordFarquad1312
10/03/21 11:41:22 PM
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cuh posted...
It that Calculus AB?
Not really, it's just a cilindre and half a sphere. You could solve it using integrals over a solid of revolution, but why complicate things?

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Winrawr
10/03/21 11:42:15 PM
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ZMythos posted...
I've tried that. I then get 20 or so students and parents emailing me about how they/their child is working and therefore can't do the assignment.
Not sure how that would be related.

A really interesting study was published awhile ago and showed that students will turn in things just before the due time predominantly. By making it due at 12 you inhibit their learning
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3PiesAndAFork
10/03/21 11:43:30 PM
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You should just tell them to do it on the fucking weekend then. Or during school time when they're supposed to be doing tests.

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LordFarquad1312
10/03/21 11:44:00 PM
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Winrawr posted...
A really interesting study was published awhile ago and showed that students will turn in things just before the due time predominantly.
By that logic TC shouldn't have given them a week either. Next time make the due date the very next day.

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ZMythos
10/03/21 11:44:02 PM
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cuh posted...
It that Calculus AB? Or something like that?

I teach 7th graders and we recently reviewed surface area and volume actually. Im starting to think I should teach older kids since 7th grade math is so basic lol
Not AB Calculus, no. It's "Integrated Math III", which is just a fancy way of splitting algebra and geometry across three years instead of the traditional "Algebra / Geometry / Algebra 2" that most schools do.

However, it does lay some of the foundations of calculus without actually talking about integrals and whatnot.

The kids have the formulas for surface area, volume, etc. on a handout, so I'm not asking them to memorize anything either.

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Winrawr
10/03/21 11:45:57 PM
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LordFarquad1312 posted...
By that logic TC shouldn't have given them a week either. Next time make the due date the very next day.
This is nonsequitur

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Brave_Song
10/03/21 11:47:47 PM
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Don't students just cheat on online exams?

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ZMythos
10/03/21 11:51:45 PM
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Winrawr posted...
Not sure how that would be related.
If they're working until 8 or 9pm, then they're not taking a test due at 6pm either way.

Winrawr posted...
A really interesting study was published awhile ago and showed that students will turn in things just before the due time predominantly. By making it due at 12 you inhibit their learning
I'm not disagreeing with those studies, but keep in mind that this is an assessment for learning. If they haven't learned the material, the time of day/night they are taking the assessment won't change that. I also understand that even a test can be an opportunity for learning, but I don't believe that's going to make a difference here.

This has been assigned to them for over a week now, so obviously something isn't going right. And I'll make adjustments in the future so that I get better results.

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ZMythos
10/03/21 11:55:57 PM
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Brave_Song posted...
Don't students just cheat on online exams?
Unless you have a friend who knows all the answers, this test is not easy to cheat. The problems often have multiple components built into them. It's not something you can just take a photomath picture of.

For example, here's another problem from said test:
A 35-inch by 35-inch piece of marble that is 54 inches long is cut lengthwise along its diagonal. Find the perimeter and area of the cross section formed by the cut. Round each answer to the nearest whole number.

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Winrawr
10/04/21 11:24:26 AM
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ZMythos posted...
A 35-inch by 35-inch piece of marble that is 54 inches long is cut lengthwise along its diagonal. Find the perimeter and area of the cross section formed by the cut. Round each answer to the nearest whole number.
you realize you can just google that question and get the answer instantly

"square of length 35,

perimeter P = 4s = 4*35 = 140 u (u is arbitrary unit length, eg meters)
area A = bh/2 (one half base times height!)

A = (35*35) / 2 = 612.5 u**2 (squared arbitrary length units, eg meters**2)"

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pick4six
10/04/21 11:33:11 AM
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To be fair... they have the whole day to complete it....

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SoggyBottomBoy
10/04/21 11:33:51 AM
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Wheres the crazy part?

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LordFarquad1312
10/04/21 12:32:54 PM
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Winrawr posted...
you realize you can just google that question and get the answer instantly
Congratulations! You googled the answer and still got it wrong. Impressive!

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