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pinky0926
09/16/21 4:28:41 PM
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Even Rurouni Kenshin which CE told me was really good and a stand out anime adaption

What the hell is Sanosuke, they just got a fucking drunk weird old guy who can't act

Saito is pretty cool but still doesn't get the character right

Just about spat out my full fat milk when I saw Sword Hunter Cho

Can I switch the thread to Bleach for a second and remind you all what they did to Byakuya?

All of this is so bad and not cool and just looks like bad cosplay

(I get that they're probably really financially successfully but god it really highlights everything that's cringe about anime that you can forget about when it's just a cartoon)

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refmon
09/16/21 4:29:12 PM
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It'll never work with the awful CGI

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Xethuminra
09/16/21 4:58:00 PM
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First off....

Theres really terrible tier like Dragon Ball Evolution which Im sorry has all of 5 good shots in the whole movie, and missed its mark by about 15 years. Not all anime-to-live-action movies are all that bad at all.

Stuff like Ghost in the Shell & Guyver 2 are divisive but not lets be real.... they arent the same kind blasphemously awful, under-budgeted, throws away the essentials in favor of Made-For-TV quality filmmaking kind of bad like Dragon Ball is.

Well, Guyver 2 does that a little bit, but hey.... its considerably better than the first one and actually makes for a super interesting premise, IMO, because they set it up a lot like a horror movie in the middle of nowhere. I like Guyver 2, but its got a lot of camp & cliche for sure.

And, then you get stuff like Oldboy which is an absolute classic. Uzumaki is another good one. Battle Royale. The Ring. (Although the last two are based off novels as opposed to manga or animation) ~ the list goes on. There are enough strong titles that come out of the genre to warrant making more. But yea, I mean, I see where youre coming from with this thread because outdoing a classic cartoon is like one of the great hallmarks of movie-making. Many of the great adaptions have started out as cartoons first, including Lord of the Rings and Batman.

Then, someone came along and picked the pieces up, putting them together into a live-action ensemble.

On the flip side, theres tons of great anime out there that was actually based on a movie sort of inverting the popular formula where material first has to spend time as manga, then gets made into anime, and finally finds its place as a live movie. Some anime just gets made as anime to begin with, like a lot of Hayao Miyazakis films. When it comes to these sorts of things tho, honestly just having one good adaptation is worth ten failures for each time it actually does succeed.

The bad movies are the ones we end of forgetting. Usually, they dont matter. Its the good ones though that stick with us for the rest of our lives, and thats worth everything.
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pinky0926
09/16/21 5:21:00 PM
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Xethuminra posted...
First off....

Theres really terrible tier like Dragon Ball Evolution which Im sorry has all of 5 good shots in the whole movie, and missed its mark by about 15 years. Not all anime-to-live-action movies are all that bad at all.

Stuff like Ghost in the Shell & Guyver 2 are divisive but not lets be real.... they arent the same kind blasphemously awful, under-budgeted, throws away the essentials in favor of Made-For-TV quality filmmaking kind of bad like Dragon Ball is.

Well, Guyver 2 does that a little bit, but hey.... its considerably better than the first one and actually makes for a super interesting premise, IMO, because they set it up a lot like a horror movie in the middle of nowhere. I like Guyver 2, but its got a lot of camp & cliche for sure.

And, then you get stuff like Oldboy which is an absolute classic. Uzumaki is another good one. Battle Royale. The Ring. (Although the last two are based off novels as opposed to manga or animation) ~ the list goes on. There are enough strong titles that come out of the genre to warrant making more. But yea, I mean, I see where youre coming from with this thread because outdoing a classic cartoon is like one of the great hallmarks of movie-making. Many of the great adaptions have started out as cartoons first, including Lord of the Rings and Batman.

Then, someone came along and picked the pieces up, putting them together into a live-action ensemble.

On the flip side, theres tons of great anime out there that was actually based on a movie sort of inverting the popular formula where material first has to spend time as manga, then gets made into anime, and finally finds its place as a live movie. Some anime just gets made as anime to begin with, like a lot of Hayao Miyazakis films. When it comes to these sorts of things tho, honestly just having one good adaptation is worth ten failures for each time it actually does succeed.

The bad movies are the ones we end of forgetting. Usually, they dont matter. Its the good ones though that stick with us for the rest of our lives, and thats worth everything.

I guess what I mean is "stop making shonen jump hits into live action movies". Granted there have been some amazing adaptions of mangas and comics.

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Xethuminra
09/16/21 7:31:35 PM
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Just found out this exists....



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AsucaHayashi
09/16/21 7:34:19 PM
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this reminded me that a phoenix wright movie exists made by ichi the killer director, takashi miike.

has anyone seen it? xd

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Beveren_Rabbit
09/16/21 7:35:22 PM
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Phoenix Wright movie was pretty decent. But it's a shame that the after credits scene pretty much confirms we won't ever get another movie because it pretty much spoils the other games.
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Questionmarktarius
09/16/21 7:43:24 PM
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Space Battleship Yamato isn't so bad.
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Feline_Heart
09/16/21 7:48:50 PM
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Monster would be a great live action tv series

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Beveren_Rabbit
09/16/21 7:49:34 PM
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sometimes the good live action films are the ones you didn't know were based on an Anime :)
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
09/16/21 7:50:01 PM
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Nana had some good film adaptations.

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Questionmarktarius
09/16/21 7:50:39 PM
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any day now, Urotsukidoji...
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FortuneCookie
09/16/21 7:51:41 PM
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No mention of Fist of the North Star?
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BlueBoy675
09/16/21 7:51:52 PM
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Xethuminra posted...
Just found out this exists....


I actually own that on bluray. Its surprisingly not bad

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Baiken
09/16/21 7:52:14 PM
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Scotty_Rogers
09/16/21 7:52:26 PM
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Anime sucks in general so of course the live action adapts would also suck

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Xethuminra
09/16/21 7:52:44 PM
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BlueBoy675 posted...
I actually own that on bluray. Its surprisingly not bad
no, im sure its not bad. yeah. thats the worst part.
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trappedunderice
09/16/21 7:53:32 PM
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You gotta get the characters right first, from the looks down to their personality. Look at Goku all the characters from DBE, what a shitty mess.
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smoke_break
09/16/21 7:57:09 PM
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I disagree. I think live-action anime adaptations are pretty good these days.

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Wii_Shaker
09/16/21 7:58:54 PM
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The Deathnote movie is the only media of the property that I've seen and I actually enjoyed it.

That is to say, I enjoyed Willem DeFoe's performance.

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Xethuminra
09/16/21 8:04:15 PM
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If they just condensed the first season of Hellsing , in the right hands, would be a beautiful movie.

Those characters, the fire, the flair, the costumes. omg

mansions & woods & XD

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DeadBankerDream
09/16/21 8:04:53 PM
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AsucaHayashi posted...
this reminded me that a phoenix wright movie exists made by ichi the killer director, takashi miike.

has anyone seen it? xd
It's really bad, but I showed it to a friend who has never played the games and he laughed his ass watching it, so I guess it can be enjoyable bad.

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AnimeGokuIAM
09/16/21 8:06:33 PM
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you guys haven't seen the 4th live action Japanese Death Note movie, it's pretty good.

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BlueBoy675
09/16/21 8:06:59 PM
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Xethuminra posted...
no, im sure its not bad. yeah. thats the worst part.
Weirdest part is that Jotaro looks like 45

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Xethuminra
09/16/21 8:07:43 PM
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BlueBoy675 posted...
Weirdest part is that Jotaro looks like 45
No.

I accept it. I recognize the style. Its over.
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pegusus123456
09/17/21 3:01:58 AM
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Xethuminra posted...
Uzumaki is another good one
There's a live-action Uzumaki?

Feline_Heart posted...
Monster would be a great live action tv series
Monster would be a phenomenal HBO show if it were done right, but I don't think it'd be done right. It's been over a decade since I've seen it, but I remember it being really wide in scope.

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DeadBankerDream
09/17/21 3:08:31 AM
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I feel like Monster meanders quite a bit with its side stories. I felt it in the manga, but I ended up finishing that, unlike the series which I just sort of got too bored by at the end.

If they did adapt it again, I kind of hope they'd shift the focus over to the central characters and only have a couple of the side-off segments.

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archedsoul
09/17/21 3:09:17 AM
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Edge of Tomorrow

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pegusus123456
09/17/21 3:11:16 AM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
I feel like Monster meanders quite a bit with its side stories. I felt it in the manga, but I ended up finishing that, unlike the series which I just sort of got too bored by at the end.

If they did adapt it again, I kind of hope they'd shift the focus over to the central characters and only have a couple of the side-off segments.
I remember feeling like Monster was all filler while also having no filler. Like the main story isn't even about Tenma and Johann(?), it's more about exploring the central themes of the show with those two just being the central pillar it's built on.

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Gobstoppers12
09/17/21 3:13:45 AM
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I thought the live action Bleach movie was actually pretty good. Say what you will about the casting choices but that fight at the end between Ichigo and Renji was top-tier shit.

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archedsoul
09/17/21 3:17:36 AM
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Wait, there's a live action Bleach movie?

The fuck?

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YugiNoob
09/17/21 3:18:38 AM
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Holy fuck thank you so much for bringing live action Byakuya to my attention XD

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Gobstoppers12
09/17/21 3:23:48 AM
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archedsoul posted...
Wait, there's a live action Bleach movie?

The fuck?
It's on Netflix. It's basically a truncated retelling of the first season, from the beginning up until Rukia is taken to Soul Society by Byakuya and Renji. I wouldn't mind a second movie dealing with the soul society stuff. Seeing a live action Zaraki vs. Ichigo would be outstanding.

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archedsoul
09/17/21 3:29:16 AM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
It's on Netflix. It's basically a truncated retelling of the first season, from the beginning up until Rukia is taken to Soul Society by Byakuya and Renji. I wouldn't mind a second movie dealing with the soul society stuff. Seeing a live action Zaraki vs. Ichigo would be outstanding.
How come no one has ever mentioned it but everybody always talks about Kenshin?

Is it worth a watch? Or is it bad?

I've only ever seen the English Netflix Death Note live action, which was bad, and Edge of Tomorrow, which was great.

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YugiNoob
09/17/21 3:30:18 AM
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I would fucking kill to see how they would make Zaraki's hair IRL lol

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pinky0926
09/17/21 3:44:24 AM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
It's on Netflix. It's basically a truncated retelling of the first season, from the beginning up until Rukia is taken to Soul Society by Byakuya and Renji. I wouldn't mind a second movie dealing with the soul society stuff. Seeing a live action Zaraki vs. Ichigo would be outstanding.

Right but consider for a moment what a live action Zaraki would actually look like

They're gonna get a 5ft8 150lbs Japanese man to play him, and then give him hair thats like something from a bad 1980s punk band and somehow twinkify it

And then he's going to try and act cool and nonchalant and pose and sit there with his eyepatch looking like a 10 year old in a pirate costume

It will be weird

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scar the 1
09/17/21 3:46:11 AM
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Completely agree but I'm also curious to see what will come of the Cowboy Bebop series. I hope it has more of a Firefly vibe than an anime vibe tbh

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Gobstoppers12
09/17/21 3:49:43 AM
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archedsoul posted...
How come no one has ever mentioned it but everybody always talks about Kenshin?

Is it worth a watch? Or is it bad?
I'd say it's worth a watch. It's pretty faithful to the manga/anime except for some omissions and alterations for time's sake. It's essentially the "main plot" of Season 1 without any of the monster-of-the-week vibes.

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Smashingpmkns
09/17/21 3:55:36 AM
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A live action Trigun could be really cool but no one has the balls to make it
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YugiNoob
09/17/21 4:34:08 AM
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My search for a live action Zaraki led me to this, and I find Byakuya's chuckle amusing for some reason

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DeadBankerDream
09/17/21 4:42:41 AM
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Every time one of you guys says Byakuya, for about 4.1 seconds I think there's a live action Danganronpa.

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moh82sy
09/17/21 4:58:23 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Space Battleship Yamato isn't so bad.

Like the other Yamato movies, the story was condensed too much. Yamato storylines are more fit to series rather than movies.

The CGI was great, so was some of the original music they did, but something about the actors felt off.

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