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FortuneCookie 08/07/21 9:24:52 PM #101:	Democrats used to be the party of the Klan. Anything is possible in the future. <cite>FortuneCookie posted [p:956877785] in Are republ... [t:79602948]...</cite> <quote>Democrats used to be the party of the Klan. Anything is possible in the future. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CADE FOSTER 08/07/21 9:34:45 PM #102:	FortuneCookie posted... Democrats used to be the party of the Klan. Anything is possible in the future. dixiecrats aka republicans gop is beyond fixing <cite>CADE FOSTER posted [p:956878000] in Are republ... [t:79602948]...</cite> <quote>FortuneCookie posted... </cite> <quote>Democrats used to be the party of the Klan. Anything is possible in the future.</quote>dixiecrats aka republicans gop is beyond fixing </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 08/07/21 9:58:52 PM #103:	Taharqa_ posted... *TheRadiant posted...* They've embraced white nationalism and authoritarianism there's no salvaging them ^This. The current Republican Party is the result of 40+ years of the proverbial chickens coming home to roost with right wing media, Fox News, Reagan worship, etc. They've doubled down on the white nationalism, and now that the demographics are not in their favor they are fine with authoritarianism to maintain power. The anniversary of the Voting Rights Act was yesterday, if Republicans had their way we wouldn't have it at all, they have been picking away at it for years. ^This. As of now, and for the foreseeable future, the Republicans are a blight on democracy. --- I often wonder if we are growing as a people... or in fact, regressing. <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:956878535] in Are republ... [t:79602948]...</cite> <quote>Taharqa_ posted... </cite> <quote>TheRadiant posted... They've embraced white nationalism and authoritarianism there's no salvaging them ^This. The current Republican Party is the result of 40+ years of the proverbial chickens coming home to roost with right wing media, Fox News, Reagan worship, etc. They've doubled down on the white nationalism, and now that the demographics are not in their favor they are fine with authoritarianism to maintain power. The anniversary of the Voting Rights Act was yesterday, if Republicans had their way we wouldn't have it at all, they have been picking away at it for years.</quote>^This. As of now, and for the foreseeable future, the Republicans are a blight on democracy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ooger 08/07/21 10:08:41 PM #104:	STEROLIZER posted... Well I'm going to be the very first person to go against the grain here and say that most republicans are salvageable. The vast majority of voting republicans are slight right, basically centrists whom voted right instead of left because of a single issue or two that they disagreed with. I do believe that these republicans can be brought over to the blue. However, in order to do so the democratic party needs to stop demonizing them as a collective whole (like whats being done in this topic) and instead listen to them, find out why they voted right instead of left. Then address theese issues IF, and onlyIF, it is a legitimate concern. If this is done I think that 25-50% of the current republican party can be converted. Of course, the ones without a legitimate concern ~~("build the wall", "save the children from the gays")~~ should be justifiably demonized. Here is a question I pose out if curiosity. All of you thus far have stated that republicans are not salvageable, and some of you have stated they are all terrible people that you wouldn't even want to salvage... ...if almost half the adult population voted for Trump, and they aren't salvageable, then what do you want to do with these people? What is your proposition for the 74,222,958 people (48.6% of popular vote) that voted for Trump? What does America do with this portion of the population if they are not salvageable? Didn't you spend a whole topic defending Tails82 and other racists who are banned on GameFaqs? --- "ooger is not a man, he's a phenomenon." - Helpall <cite>ooger posted [p:956878778] in Are republ... [t:79602948]...</cite> <quote>STEROLIZER posted... </cite> <quote>Well I'm going to be the very first person to go against the grain here and say that most republicans are salvageable. The vast majority of voting republicans are slight right, basically centrists whom voted right instead of left because of a single issue or two that they disagreed with. I do believe that these republicans can be brought over to the blue. However, in order to do so the democratic party needs to stop demonizing them as a collective whole (like whats being done in this topic) and instead listen to them, find out why they voted right instead of left. Then address theese issues IF, and onlyIF, it is a legitimate concern. If this is done I think that 25-50% of the current republican party can be converted. Of course, the ones without a legitimate concern ("build the wall", "save the children from the gays") should be justifiably demonized. Here is a question I pose out if curiosity. All of you thus far have stated that republicans are not salvageable, and some of you have stated they are all terrible people that you wouldn't even want to salvage... ...if almost half the adult population voted for Trump, and they aren't salvageable, then what do you want to do with these people? What is your proposition for the 74,222,958 people (48.6% of popular vote) that voted for Trump? What does America do with this portion of the population if they are not salvageable?</quote>Didn't you spend a whole topic defending Tails82 and other racists who are banned on GameFaqs? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
limp-bizkit-89 08/07/21 10:23:30 PM #105:	ooger posted... Didn't you spend a whole topic defending Tails82 and other racists who are banned on GameFaqs? he still does. He goes like I am a liberal but his discord is populated by people too extreme to even be here. have you seen that subreddit? It is the closest thing to storm front that Reddit has right now. Theyre the same people --- Keep Rollin Rollin Rollin (yeah!) <cite>limp-bizkit-89 posted [p:956879154] in Are republ... [t:79602948]...</cite> <quote>ooger posted... </cite> <quote>Didn't you spend a whole topic defending Tails82 and other racists who are banned on GameFaqs?</quote> he still does. He goes like I am a liberal but his discord is populated by people too extreme to even be here. have you seen that subreddit? It is the closest thing to storm front that Reddit has right now. Theyre the same people </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlphaCuck 08/07/21 10:30:25 PM #106:	it's their country too --- Nintendo should stop developing games - ONLY PUBLISH! <cite>AlphaCuck posted [p:956879331] in Are republ... [t:79602948]...</cite> <quote>it's their country too </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TerraSeeker 08/07/21 10:36:26 PM #107:	Most of the time they don't really do anything. They're just say they want lower taxes and stuff. It's pretty weak when there's a culture war being fought. --- Your words are as empty as your soul <cite>TerraSeeker posted [p:956879486] in Are republ... [t:79602948]...</cite> <quote>Most of the time they don't really do anything. They're just say they want lower taxes and stuff. It's pretty weak when there's a culture war being fought. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 08/07/21 11:02:18 PM #108:	STEROLIZER posted... Here is a question I pose out if curiosity. All of you thus far have stated that republicans are not salvageable, and some of you have stated they are all terrible people that you wouldn't even want to salvage... ...if almost half the adult population voted for Trump, and they aren't salvageable, then what do you want to do with these people? What is your proposition for the 74,222,958 people (48.6% of popular vote) that voted for Trump? What does America do with this portion of the population if they are not salvageable? Republican voters are not the same as republicans. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:956880105] in Are republ... [t:79602948]...</cite> <quote>STEROLIZER posted... </cite> <quote>Here is a question I pose out if curiosity. All of you thus far have stated that republicans are not salvageable, and some of you have stated they are all terrible people that you wouldn't even want to salvage... ...if almost half the adult population voted for Trump, and they aren't salvageable, then what do you want to do with these people? What is your proposition for the 74,222,958 people (48.6% of popular vote) that voted for Trump? What does America do with this portion of the population if they are not salvageable?</quote>Republican voters are not the same as republicans. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
limp-bizkit-89 08/07/21 11:13:23 PM #109:	Tyranthraxus posted... Republican voters are not the same as republicans. he knows. trumpers argue in bad faith --- Keep Rollin Rollin Rollin (yeah!) <cite>limp-bizkit-89 posted [p:956880355] in Are republ... [t:79602948]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite> <quote>Republican voters are not the same as republicans.</quote> he knows. trumpers argue in bad faith </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
David1988 08/07/21 11:19:55 PM #110:	Tyranthraxus posted... Republican voters are not the same as republicans. If they voted for Trump they're Trumpers as far as Im concerned, there was absolutely no reason to vote for him otherwise, classic moderate Republicans didnt vote for Trump this go around --- Each night, when I go to sleep, I die. <cite>David1988 posted [p:956880517] in Are republ... [t:79602948]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite> <quote>Republican voters are not the same as republicans.</quote> If they voted for Trump they're Trumpers as far as Im concerned, there was absolutely no reason to vote for him otherwise, classic moderate Republicans didnt vote for Trump this go around </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giblet_Enjoyer 08/08/21 12:35:00 AM #111:	STEROLIZER posted... However, in order to do so the democratic party needs to stop demonizing them as a collective whole (like whats being done in this topic) and instead listen to them, find out why they voted right instead of left. Then address theese issues IF, and onlyIF, it is a legitimate concern. If this is done I think that 25-50% of the current republican party can be converted. That's a big waste of time imo, the amount of time spent converting one republican could be used to just convince probably 10+ non-voting democrats/independents to vote. Easier to fool someone than to convince them they've been fooled --- He which make friends with scorpion, soon come to find out what a scorpion does - they bite people with its tail --ancient Chinese proverb <cite>Giblet_Enjoyer posted [p:956882330] in Are republ... [t:79602948]...</cite> <quote>STEROLIZER posted... </cite> <quote>However, in order to do so the democratic party needs to stop demonizing them as a collective whole (like whats being done in this topic) and instead listen to them, find out why they voted right instead of left. Then address theese issues IF, and onlyIF, it is a legitimate concern. If this is done I think that 25-50% of the current republican party can be converted.</quote>That's a big waste of time imo, the amount of time spent converting one republican could be used to just convince probably 10+ non-voting democrats/independents to vote. Easier to fool someone than to convince them they've been fooled </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CADE FOSTER 08/08/21 1:27:26 AM #112:	imagine shit posting about dems needing to change to meet them in the middle why are we always appeasing those loons fuck that dems constantly try to appease them only to get bitten on the hand <cite>CADE FOSTER posted [p:956883432] in Are republ... [t:79602948]...</cite> <quote>imagine shit posting about dems needing to change to meet them in the middle why are we always appeasing those loons fuck that dems constantly try to appease them only to get bitten on the hand </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IfGodCouldDie 08/08/21 1:27:38 AM #113:	No --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:IfGodCouldDie IGN:SuperPattyCakes FC: SW-1615-6159-5504 Boop Trooper reporting for duty. <cite>IfGodCouldDie posted [p:956883435] in Are republ... [t:79602948]...</cite> <quote>No </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
STEROLIZER 08/08/21 4:18:31 AM #114:	Tyranthraxus posted... Republican voters are not the same as republicans. Huh? What are we talking about then? I think the swing voters can easily be brought about to the left. I think anyone who isn't a hard right voter can be salvaged, including moderates. My argument is basically that there seems to be a very loud contingent of people, who share the "you are either with us or against us mentality" and basically don't want to salvage any republican voters. They just want to demonize all Trump voters as the enemy, which doesn't make any sense to me. Because if say 25% of the 74 million that voted for Trump are near the middle, why not just encourage them to jump over the line? Why not welcome them with open arms? I mean this election was close, and really could have gone any which way. 25% of 74m equates to a potential 14.8 million voters that could possibly become blue. You nab a portion these voters, and when combined with the younger generation aging into becoming registered voters and you basically kill off the republican party. You prevent them from ever gaining power again. But if you don't try to salvage these voters, and just continue to demonize them, then you push them further down the line to where they are no longer swing voters, and then they truly do become unsalvageable. Then you give the republicans the potential to regain power again. Are you saying this topic is not refering to people who voted Trump, but actual republican politicians? If so, then fuck no, of course they are not salvageable. They are the reason why the denocractic party should continue to try and sway all of the swing voters, and moderates over to the left. So as to prevent those people from ever regaining power again. @Tyranthraxus I didn't read this entire topic start to finish, but I do think that the general vibe is that it's talking about people who voted republican, not the actual politicians themselves. --- ---./\|,-``\(o)_\,----,,,_........................Love is like a bottle of gin ---( `\(o),,_/` : o : : :o `-,..............But a bottle of gin is not like love. <cite>STEROLIZER posted [p:956885557] in Are republ... [t:79602948]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite> <quote>Republican voters are not the same as republicans.</quote> Huh? What are we talking about then? I think the swing voters can easily be brought about to the left. I think anyone who isn't a hard right voter can be salvaged, including moderates. My argument is basically that there seems to be a very loud contingent of people, who share the "you are either with us or against us mentality" and basically don't want to salvage any republican voters. They just want to demonize all Trump voters as the enemy, which doesn't make any sense to me. Because if say 25% of the 74 million that voted for Trump are near the middle, why not just encourage them to jump over the line? Why not welcome them with open arms? I mean this election was close, and really could have gone any which way. 25% of 74m equates to a potential 14.8 million voters that could possibly become blue. You nab a portion these voters, and when combined with the younger generation aging into becoming registered voters and you basically kill off the republican party. You prevent them from ever gaining power again. But if you don't try to salvage these voters, and just continue to demonize them, then you push them further down the line to where they are no longer swing voters, and then they truly do become unsalvageable. Then you give the republicans the potential to regain power again. Are you saying this topic is not refering to people who voted Trump, but actual republican politicians? If so, then fuck no, of course they are not salvageable. They are the reason why the denocractic party should continue to try and sway all of the swing voters, and moderates over to the left. So as to prevent those people from ever regaining power again. @Tyranthraxus I didn't read this entire topic start to finish, but I do think that the general vibe is that it's talking about people who voted republican, not the actual politicians themselves. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
STEROLIZER 08/08/21 4:23:37 AM #115:	Giblet_Enjoyer posted... That's a big waste of time imo, the amount of time spent converting one republican could be used to just convince probably 10+ non-voting democrats/independents to vote. Easier to fool someone than to convince them they've been fooled Why are they not voting tho? --- ---./\|,-``\(o)_\,----,,,_........................Love is like a bottle of gin ---( `\(o),,_/` : o : : :o `-,..............But a bottle of gin is not like love. <cite>STEROLIZER posted [p:956885602] in Are republ... [t:79602948]...</cite> <quote>Giblet_Enjoyer posted... </cite> <quote>That's a big waste of time imo, the amount of time spent converting one republican could be used to just convince probably 10+ non-voting democrats/independents to vote. Easier to fool someone than to convince them they've been fooled</quote> Why are they not voting tho? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
008Zulu 08/08/21 4:43:15 AM #116:	No. They are the party of Qonspiracy theories & Qarens. --- If you protest, it's because you feel your voice isn't being heard. If you riot, it's because you feel your voice is being ignored. <cite>008Zulu posted [p:956885792] in Are republ... [t:79602948]...</cite> <quote>No. They are the party of Qonspiracy theories & Qarens. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ooger 08/08/21 10:52:51 AM #117:	STEROLIZER posted... Why are they not voting tho? Didn't you spend a whole topic defending Tails82 and other racists who are banned on GameFaqs? --- "ooger is not a man, he's a phenomenon." - Helpall <cite>ooger posted [p:956890524] in Are republ... [t:79602948]...</cite> <quote>STEROLIZER posted... </cite> <quote>Why are they not voting tho?</quote>Didn't you spend a whole topic defending Tails82 and other racists who are banned on GameFaqs? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
STEROLIZER 08/08/21 8:20:19 PM #118:	ooger posted... Didn't you spend a whole topic defending Tails82 and other racists who are banned on GameFaqs? That seems to be what people took away from that. But no, I did not. I spent those topics defending my own crypto board & discord channel. There was a topic where someone claimed my community board & discord channel was a MAGA hangout run by Tails & Shadow. I chimed in and let them know that it wasn't, because those communities belong to me. There were then a bunch of users somehow trying to prove otherwise, and when they realized they were mistaken conversation shifted to how come I don't ban them from my communities. My answer then is still the same now, in that they don't misbehave or break any rules within my crypto communities...they just talk about crypto currency. The next 300 posts or so was me defending that stance from all comers. But no, I don't defend Tails or Shadows racist views or stance on politics. From what people have shown me, we are polar opposites on those issues, and if all the personal anecdotes users have shared with me are true I'm actually quite disturbed, and disgusted. If any of those things were said within my crypto communities I would openly condemn them and take Swift action. But, they simply haven't been, the duo (along with caution, another controversial user) behave. Edit: It's also worth noting that following that topic I added @Machete as a moderator to prevent any similar instances from happening. He knows users better than I. But the damn board died anyhow. The Tails/Shadow thing really soured people on the board and at least 50% of our traffic left. BTC is pumping now, so we are trying to rebuild. --- ---./\|,-``\(o)_\,----,,,_........................Love is like a bottle of gin ---( `\(o),,_/` : o : : :o `-,..............But a bottle of gin is not like love. <cite>STEROLIZER posted [p:956904794] in Are republ... [t:79602948]...</cite> <quote>ooger posted... </cite> <quote>Didn't you spend a whole topic defending Tails82 and other racists who are banned on GameFaqs?</quote> That seems to be what people took away from that. But no, I did not. I spent those topics defending my own crypto board & discord channel. There was a topic where someone claimed my community board & discord channel was a MAGA hangout run by Tails & Shadow. I chimed in and let them know that it wasn't, because those communities belong to me. There were then a bunch of users somehow trying to prove otherwise, and when they realized they were mistaken conversation shifted to how come I don't ban them from my communities. My answer then is still the same now, in that they don't misbehave or break any rules within my crypto communities...they just talk about crypto currency. The next 300 posts or so was me defending that stance from all comers. But no, I don't defend Tails or Shadows racist views or stance on politics. From what people have shown me, we are polar opposites on those issues, and if all the personal anecdotes users have shared with me are true I'm actually quite disturbed, and disgusted. If any of those things were said within my crypto communities I would openly condemn them and take Swift action. But, they simply haven't been, the duo (along with caution, another controversial user) behave. Edit: It's also worth noting that following that topic I added @Machete as a moderator to prevent any similar instances from happening. He knows users better than I. But the damn board died anyhow. The Tails/Shadow thing really soured people on the board and at least 50% of our traffic left. BTC is pumping now, so we are trying to rebuild. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
limp-bizkit-89 08/08/21 9:03:13 PM #119:	STEROLIZER posted... But the damn board died anyhow. The Tails/Shadow thing really soured people on the board and at least 50% of our traffic left. its not like you werent warned about it --- Keep Rollin Rollin Rollin (yeah!) <cite>limp-bizkit-89 posted [p:956905925] in Are republ... [t:79602948]...</cite> <quote>STEROLIZER posted... </cite> <quote>But the damn board died anyhow. The Tails/Shadow thing really soured people on the board and at least 50% of our traffic left.</quote> its not like you werent warned about it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
STEROLIZER 08/09/21 12:58:45 AM #120:	limp-bizkit-89 posted... its not like you werent warned about it It is what it is --- ---./\|,-``\(o)_\,----,,,_........................Love is like a bottle of gin ---( `\(o),,_/` : o : : :o `-,..............But a bottle of gin is not like love. <cite>STEROLIZER posted [p:956911232] in Are republ... [t:79602948]...</cite> <quote>limp-bizkit-89 posted... </cite> <quote>its not like you werent warned about it </quote> It is what it is </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ooger 08/09/21 9:56:36 AM #121:	STEROLIZER posted... It is what it is Pro-tip: It turns out better when you disavow racists instead of being a big ole coward about it. --- "ooger is not a man, he's a phenomenon." - Helpall <cite>ooger posted [p:956917808] in Are republ... [t:79602948]...</cite> <quote>STEROLIZER posted... </cite> <quote>It is what it is </quote> Pro-tip: It turns out better when you disavow racists instead of being a big ole coward about it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
STEROLIZER 08/09/21 10:18:38 PM #122:	ooger posted... Pro-tip: It turns out better when you disavow racists instead of being a big ole coward about it. First of all, I do disavow racists, and I said a many times I don't agree with their political views, and if all the personal anedoctes are true, it's disgusting. I publically and unequivocally disavow all forms of prejudice. With that said I'm certainly not a coward. I continue to stand by my initial statement which is anyone can join my communities so long as they behave themselves. It's a cryptocurrency board/discord, as long as they chat about Crypto and not politics I'm not gonna act. I made a commitment to moderating those communities fairly, and that's what I'll do no matter how unpopular that decision is. Furthermore, I don't think you know what the word "coward" even means. I had this entire board and most of GameFaqs on my ass, including some mods, because I refused to ban them. People still follow me around and harass me due to this decision. It would be very easy for me to just cave in to pressure and ban them, it would get you all off my butt, and probably bring alot of folks back to the Crypto Community that use to be very active. However, doing so would mean I'd have to go against my own oath I swore to moderate a fair and unbiased community. I'm not trying to say it makes brave, or it's an admirable trait, but it certainly doesn't make me a coward. You can call this a false equivalency or whatever. But suggesting that I ban Tails & Shadow from the Discord, a community located off of GameFaqs servers, for things they said & did while here...it doesn't make any sense. That would be like someone getting banned from Twitter, and then those admins sharing their banlist with Facebook & Reddit. That's not how the world does or should work. --- Edit: with that said, my personal stance on the duo has indeed changed. I was shown enough evidence to doubt their credibility. I no longer seek to associate with them on a personal level, or seek to defend or make sense of their previous GaneFaqs behavior. Adding @Machete to the mod team and setting up an alternative Discord was part of the rebuilding process. BTC & Altcoins are pumping, y'all should come over to the board and learn how to invest,gain financial freedom, and better your lives. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1285-bitcoin-and-cryptocurrency --- ---./\|,-``\(o)_\,----,,,_........................Love is like a bottle of gin ---( `\(o),,_/` : o : : :o `-,..............But a bottle of gin is not like love. <cite>STEROLIZER posted [p:956939016] in Are republ... [t:79602948]...</cite> <quote>ooger posted... </cite> <quote>Pro-tip: It turns out better when you disavow racists instead of being a big ole coward about it.</quote> First of all, I do disavow racists, and I said a many times I don't agree with their political views, and if all the personal anedoctes are true, it's disgusting. I publically and unequivocally disavow all forms of prejudice. With that said I'm certainly not a coward. I continue to stand by my initial statement which is anyone can join my communities so long as they behave themselves. It's a cryptocurrency board/discord, as long as they chat about Crypto and not politics I'm not gonna act. I made a commitment to moderating those communities fairly, and that's what I'll do no matter how unpopular that decision is. Furthermore, I don't think you know what the word "coward" even means. I had this entire board and most of GameFaqs on my ass, including some mods, because I refused to ban them. People still follow me around and harass me due to this decision. It would be very easy for me to just cave in to pressure and ban them, it would get you all off my butt, and probably bring alot of folks back to the Crypto Community that use to be very active. However, doing so would mean I'd have to go against my own oath I swore to moderate a fair and unbiased community. I'm not trying to say it makes brave, or it's an admirable trait, but it certainly doesn't make me a coward. You can call this a false equivalency or whatever. But suggesting that I ban Tails & Shadow from the Discord, a community located off of GameFaqs servers, for things they said & did while here...it doesn't make any sense. That would be like someone getting banned from Twitter, and then those admins sharing their banlist with Facebook & Reddit. That's not how the world does or should work. --- Edit: with that said, my personal stance on the duo has indeed changed. I was shown enough evidence to doubt their credibility. I no longer seek to associate with them on a personal level, or seek to defend or make sense of their previous GaneFaqs behavior. Adding @Machete to the mod team and setting up an alternative Discord was part of the rebuilding process. BTC & Altcoins are pumping, y'all should come over to the board and learn how to invest,gain financial freedom, and better your lives. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1285-bitcoin-and-cryptocurrency </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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