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Scotty_Rogers 08/06/21 7:35:34 PM #1:	Remember when he was just a little hedgehog who would run fast, collect rings and destroy robots lmao --- Da GOAT Fam 2021! <cite>Scotty_Rogers posted [p:956846716] in Damn Sonic... [t:79601980]...</cite> <quote> Remember when he was just a little hedgehog who would run fast, collect rings and destroy robots lmao </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 08/06/21 7:37:21 PM #2:	It was weird they gave him a human princess love interest Especially considering Amy Rose existed. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:956846772] in Damn Sonic... [t:79601980]...</cite> <quote>It was weird they gave him a human princess love interest Especially considering Amy Rose existed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mist_Turnips 08/06/21 7:37:37 PM #3:	This existing still makes me laugh https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/ds/941521-sonic-chronicles-the-dark-brotherhood --- "They say if you don't hide your belly button, lightning could take it away from you! What would happen if it did?" https://imgur.com/G74y2NJ <cite>Mist_Turnips posted [p:956846780] in Damn Sonic... [t:79601980]...</cite> <quote>This existing still makes me laugh https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/ds/941521-sonic-chronicles-the-dark-brotherhood</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jagr_68 08/06/21 7:38:15 PM #4:	UnfairRepresent posted... It was weird they gave him a human princess love interest Especially considering Amy Rose existed. Sega Sammy was giving its creepy fans what they wanted tho because they care. --- New York Rangers [2004-2008] https://media.giphy.com/media/WvQHBYW0q4TuxdAg61/giphy.gif https://psnprofiles.com/Jaromiroquai68 <cite>Jagr_68 posted [p:956846802] in Damn Sonic... [t:79601980]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>It was weird they gave him a human princess love interest Especially considering Amy Rose existed.</quote> Sega Sammy was giving its creepy fans what they wanted tho because they care. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokison 08/06/21 7:38:16 PM #5:	--- Word from the wise: Don't run in the shower. <cite>Lokison posted [p:956846803] in Damn Sonic... [t:79601980]...</cite> <quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scotty_Rogers 08/06/21 7:42:42 PM #6:	Ayo fuck Sonic and the Black Knight. I hated that shit even when I was 13 and crazy about Sonic. I enjoyed Shadow, Sonic 2006, Secret Rings and Unleashed when I first played them, but I disliked Black Knight right off --- Da GOAT Fam 2021! <cite>Scotty_Rogers posted [p:956846937] in Damn Sonic... [t:79601980]...</cite> <quote>Ayo fuck Sonic and the Black Knight. I hated that shit even when I was 13 and crazy about Sonic. I enjoyed Shadow, Sonic 2006, Secret Rings and Unleashed when I first played them, but I disliked Black Knight right off </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scotty_Rogers 08/06/21 7:55:15 PM #7:	Sonic Team was really mad when Sega of America removed Sonic's human girlfriend in Sonic 1 Funny how when they give Sonic a human girlfriend like they always wanted in Sonic 2006, they end up making the worst Sonic game of all time lmao --- Da GOAT Fam 2021! <cite>Scotty_Rogers posted [p:956847303] in Damn Sonic... [t:79601980]...</cite> <quote> Sonic Team was really mad when Sega of America removed Sonic's human girlfriend in Sonic 1 Funny how when they give Sonic a human girlfriend like they always wanted in Sonic 2006, they end up making the worst Sonic game of all time lmao </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ratchetrockon 08/06/21 7:55:54 PM #8:	Sword sonic vs gun shadow who wins in a duel? --- i9 9900k \| RTX 2080ti FE \|Aorus Master Z390 \| 2 TB 850 EVO + 1tb 970 EVO\| DDR4 32 gig 3200 RAM \| EVGA T2 1000W https://valid.x86.fr/w0rvt0 <cite>Ratchetrockon posted [p:956847315] in Damn Sonic... [t:79601980]...</cite> <quote>Sword sonic vs gun shadow who wins in a duel? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scotty_Rogers 08/06/21 10:40:16 PM #9:	Secret Rings sucked too. I remember it got fairly decent reviews but ... how? The controls are a nightmare when you first start playing and even though you can unlock better controls ... why the fuck do you have to unlock better controls lmao --- Da GOAT Fam 2021! <cite>Scotty_Rogers posted [p:956852036] in Damn Sonic... [t:79601980]...</cite> <quote>Secret Rings sucked too. I remember it got fairly decent reviews but ... how? The controls are a nightmare when you first start playing and even though you can unlock better controls ... why the fuck do you have to unlock better controls lmao </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ElatedVenusaur 08/06/21 10:49:41 PM #10:	Yeah, the series had a lengthy rough patch after Sonic Adventure 2 that didnt really end until Sonic Colors ~~and Forces was a dud, of course.~~ They wound up making the Sonic gameplay so fast they convinced themselves they couldnt make a full game of just that, and they really havent found a good solution to the problem they created. At the very least, the series is now well removed from its post-Dreamcast nadir. Well see if it can stay away from those lows. --- She/her <cite>ElatedVenusaur posted [p:956852281] in Damn Sonic... [t:79601980]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, the series had a lengthy rough patch after Sonic Adventure 2 that didnt really end until Sonic Colors and Forces was a dud, of course. They wound up making the Sonic gameplay so fast they convinced themselves they couldnt make a full game of just that, and they really havent found a good solution to the problem they created. At the very least, the series is now well removed from its post-Dreamcast nadir. Well see if it can stay away from those lows. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wii_Shaker 08/06/21 10:51:30 PM #11:	--- "He busted in, blessed be the Lord Who believe any mess they read up on a message board" -MF DOOM 1970-2020 (G.O.A.T.) <cite>Wii_Shaker posted [p:956852331] in Damn Sonic... [t:79601980]...</cite> <quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ratchetrockon 08/06/21 10:52:03 PM #12:	Wii_Shaker posted... --- i9 9900k \| RTX 2080ti FE \|Aorus Master Z390 \| 2 TB 850 EVO + 1tb 970 EVO\| DDR4 32 gig 3200 RAM \| EVGA T2 1000W https://valid.x86.fr/w0rvt0 <cite>Ratchetrockon posted [p:956852344] in Damn Sonic... [t:79601980]...</cite> <quote>Wii_Shaker posted... </cite> <quote></quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hayame Zero 08/06/21 10:54:59 PM #13:	Shadow the Hedgehog was made entirely because of letters from young fans who wanted Sonic to use a gun and say bad words. --- ...I think I'm done here... <cite>Hayame Zero posted [p:956852424] in Damn Sonic... [t:79601980]...</cite> <quote>Shadow the Hedgehog was made entirely because of letters from young fans who wanted Sonic to use a gun and say bad words. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scotty_Rogers 08/07/21 1:25:51 AM #14:	3D Sonic games, right from the start, have been criticized for having bad camera, faulty collision detection, glitches, an overabundance of automation, unresponsive controls and totally redundant, gimmicky gameplay mechanics. Sequels should answer the criticism and feedback of the preceding games, but they almost always have the same damn flaws, as if the devs never learn. Let's talk about the gimmicky gameplay mechanics. You pick up a Sonic game to run fast, perform platforming, collect rings and destroy robots. No one is playing a Sonic game for shooting, treasure hunting, fishing, brawling, hack-n-slashing or going slow in general; these things are rightfully bashed every time they're included in the games. It took until Sonic Colors for the devs to attempt to stop with these dumb gimmicks, but even then, that game was plagued by redundant power-ups that broke up the pacing; only thing they had going was that they were better than the gimmicks in other 3D Sonic games. Generations did away with the dumb power-ups for the most part and made Classic, Genesis-style its gimmick, including that type of gameplay along with the Modern boost-style that's been the norm since Unleashed. It's the best 3D Sonic game to date, but it's still not very good. Classic Sonic plays like a pale imitation of his Genesis self; the physics are off and the levels are full of bland scripted sequences. Modern Sonic has even more automation in its especially shallow "boost to win" style of gameplay, full of endless corridors, homing attack chains and erratic, unresponsive controls. I can see why Lost World went back to the drawing board as this kind of gameplay lacks any real substance, but it went about it the wrong way, turning Sonic into more of a generic platformer with nerfed speed, terrible physics, sloppy mechanics that break the flow like the new parkour system, and an increased focus on dumb power-ups and minigames to artificially extend playtime. And Sonic Team should have never trusted the noob devs at Big Red with the Sonic IP, so it's largely their fault that Rise of Lyric came about as well. With their most recent failure in Sonic Forces, a half-assed rehash of Generations with much worse level design and especially bad, slow paced platforming mechanics in its custom character gameplay, Sonic Team clearly doesn't know what do at all anymore. The fact this game immediately followed the much better Mania, which is really just a glorified fangame, is just laughable. Fan developers have a better idea of what a Sonic game should be like than professional ones; games like Sonic Utopia and GT are far from perfect, but with enough polish and refinement, they might grow into something truly great. But as for the official games? They'll remain trash unless Sonic Team gets better devs, I guess. --- Da GOAT Fam 2021! <cite>Scotty_Rogers posted [p:956855668] in Damn Sonic... [t:79601980]...</cite> <quote>3D Sonic games, right from the start, have been criticized for having bad camera, faulty collision detection, glitches, an overabundance of automation, unresponsive controls and totally redundant, gimmicky gameplay mechanics. Sequels should answer the criticism and feedback of the preceding games, but they almost always have the same damn flaws, as if the devs never learn. Let's talk about the gimmicky gameplay mechanics. You pick up a Sonic game to run fast, perform platforming, collect rings and destroy robots. No one is playing a Sonic game for shooting, treasure hunting, fishing, brawling, hack-n-slashing or going slow in general; these things are rightfully bashed every time they're included in the games. It took until Sonic Colors for the devs to attempt to stop with these dumb gimmicks, but even then, that game was plagued by redundant power-ups that broke up the pacing; only thing they had going was that they were better than the gimmicks in other 3D Sonic games. Generations did away with the dumb power-ups for the most part and made Classic, Genesis-style its gimmick, including that type of gameplay along with the Modern boost-style that's been the norm since Unleashed. It's the best 3D Sonic game to date, but it's still not very good. Classic Sonic plays like a pale imitation of his Genesis self; the physics are off and the levels are full of bland scripted sequences. Modern Sonic has even more automation in its especially shallow "boost to win" style of gameplay, full of endless corridors, homing attack chains and erratic, unresponsive controls. I can see why Lost World went back to the drawing board as this kind of gameplay lacks any real substance, but it went about it the wrong way, turning Sonic into more of a generic platformer with nerfed speed, terrible physics, sloppy mechanics that break the flow like the new parkour system, and an increased focus on dumb power-ups and minigames to artificially extend playtime. And Sonic Team should have never trusted the noob devs at Big Red with the Sonic IP, so it's largely their fault that Rise of Lyric came about as well. With their most recent failure in Sonic Forces, a half-assed rehash of Generations with much worse level design and especially bad, slow paced platforming mechanics in its custom character gameplay, Sonic Team clearly doesn't know what do at all anymore. The fact this game immediately followed the much better Mania, which is really just a glorified fangame, is just laughable. Fan developers have a better idea of what a Sonic game should be like than professional ones; games like Sonic Utopia and GT are far from perfect, but with enough polish and refinement, they might grow into something truly great. But as for the official games? They'll remain trash unless Sonic Team gets better devs, I guess. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alteres 08/07/21 1:32:37 AM #15:	Goddamnit, that rabbits name is what I thought it was. --- ........the ghost in the machine... IGN: Fox, FC: 5344-2646-0982 <cite>Alteres posted [p:956855776] in Damn Sonic... [t:79601980]...</cite> <quote>Goddamnit, that rabbits name is what I thought it was. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scotty_Rogers 08/07/21 1:57:35 AM #16:	Yuji Naka: Sonic's 15th anniversary game will be going back to the basics. We're making sure that this will be the best Sonic game ever. Sonic Team: Naka-san, we would like to introduce a new white recolor of Sonic as well as a human girlfriend for Sonic to kiss Yuji Naka: Alright fuck this I'm out Sonic Team: Fam Naka-san left wat do. Sega: Meh, just make sure you have this game out by Christmas. Sonic Team: Kay XD --- Da GOAT Fam 2021! <cite>Scotty_Rogers posted [p:956856138] in Damn Sonic... [t:79601980]...</cite> <quote>Yuji Naka: Sonic's 15th anniversary game will be going back to the basics. We're making sure that this will be the best Sonic game ever. Sonic Team: Naka-san, we would like to introduce a new white recolor of Sonic as well as a human girlfriend for Sonic to kiss Yuji Naka: Alright fuck this I'm out Sonic Team: Fam Naka-san left wat do. Sega: Meh, just make sure you have this game out by Christmas. Sonic Team: Kay XD </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pegusus123456 08/07/21 2:10:30 AM #17:	ElatedVenusaur posted... They wound up making the Sonic gameplay so fast they convinced themselves they couldnt make a full game of just that, and they really havent found a good solution to the problem they created. I think it was those Extra Credits dudes that put it this way: Sega bought into their own hype about Sonic being a game about going fast when it's really more about controlling your momentum. The game doesn't work if you can't do that. --- https://imgur.com/Er6TT https://imgur.com/Er6TT https://imgur.com/Er6TT So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur <cite>pegusus123456 posted [p:956856287] in Damn Sonic... [t:79601980]...</cite> <quote>ElatedVenusaur posted... </cite> <quote>They wound up making the Sonic gameplay so fast they convinced themselves they couldnt make a full game of just that, and they really havent found a good solution to the problem they created.</quote>I think it was those Extra Credits dudes that put it this way: Sega bought into their own hype about Sonic being a game about going fast when it's really more about controlling your momentum. The game doesn't work if you can't do that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bloodmoon77 08/07/21 2:42:59 AM #18:	But sonic riders was a banger tho. Hella sick hover boards. We don't talk about 2 or 3 tho --- I wouldn't trust this company with making a cheese sandwich, they'd start an additional kickstarter for the mayo-ssjmatthew on Comcept's MN9 <cite>Bloodmoon77 posted [p:956856688] in Damn Sonic... [t:79601980]...</cite> <quote>But sonic riders was a banger tho. Hella sick hover boards. We don't talk about 2 or 3 tho </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scotty_Rogers 08/07/21 2:46:05 AM #19:	I'm giving Naka too much credit, though. Honestly, there's always been a major disconnection between what the Japanese developers want for Sonic, and what the American audience actually wants. This isn't just true of Sonic, but Sega in general. It was thanks to how Sega of America softened Sonic's character during his conception and marketed him that made both him and the Genesis so successful in America. Meanwhile, back home in Japan, Sonic and Genesis were never successful. There was a lot of jealousy on the Japanese side towards the company's success in America, and that animosity basically destroyed Sega after the Genesis. Naka didn't seem to get along with the Americans and he was one of the ones who vouched for Sonic to have a human girlfriend when the first game was being made. With the company in shambles, the clueless Japanese devs could now do whatever they wanted; that combined with the company's obsession with meeting deadlines resulted in all these garbage Sonic games being churned out like no tomorrow. Sega of Japan is just a shitty company all around. --- Da GOAT Fam 2021! <cite>Scotty_Rogers posted [p:956856732] in Damn Sonic... [t:79601980]...</cite> <quote>I'm giving Naka too much credit, though. Honestly, there's always been a major disconnection between what the Japanese developers want for Sonic, and what the American audience actually wants. This isn't just true of Sonic, but Sega in general. It was thanks to how Sega of America softened Sonic's character during his conception and marketed him that made both him and the Genesis so successful in America. Meanwhile, back home in Japan, Sonic and Genesis were never successful. There was a lot of jealousy on the Japanese side towards the company's success in America, and that animosity basically destroyed Sega after the Genesis. Naka didn't seem to get along with the Americans and he was one of the ones who vouched for Sonic to have a human girlfriend when the first game was being made. With the company in shambles, the clueless Japanese devs could now do whatever they wanted; that combined with the company's obsession with meeting deadlines resulted in all these garbage Sonic games being churned out like no tomorrow. Sega of Japan is just a shitty company all around. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unknown5uspect 08/07/21 2:50:13 AM #20:	Idk Sanic Advance and Sanic Rush were cool --- #Riot2020 Eat The Rich <cite>Unknown5uspect posted [p:956856800] in Damn Sonic... [t:79601980]...</cite> <quote>Idk Sanic Advance and Sanic Rush were cool </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chicken 08/07/21 2:52:33 AM #21:	Lokison posted... ay yo is dat Adidas The Hedgehog?? --- May contain bones https://youtu.be/jGbI0P4hh3o <cite>Chicken posted [p:956856829] in Damn Sonic... [t:79601980]...</cite> <quote>Lokison posted... </cite> <quote></quote>ay yo is dat Adidas The Hedgehog?? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scotty_Rogers 08/07/21 2:57:42 AM #22:	It's not even that all of these gimmicks were inherently bad ideas, either. Maybe a Sonic game with guns or swords could have been fun if done right; there's the challenge of blending these seemingly over-the-top elements with the core Sonic gameplay properly, but some developers might have succeeded. Unfortunately, games like Shadow and the Black Knight were fucking trash all around, failing at even the most basic of game design. It's like Sonic Team never evolved past the late 90s, when 3D games ran amok with horrible camera angles, clipping, glitches and terrible controls. --- Da GOAT Fam 2021! <cite>Scotty_Rogers posted [p:956856889] in Damn Sonic... [t:79601980]...</cite> <quote>It's not even that all of these gimmicks were inherently bad ideas, either. Maybe a Sonic game with guns or swords could have been fun if done right; there's the challenge of blending these seemingly over-the-top elements with the core Sonic gameplay properly, but some developers might have succeeded. Unfortunately, games like Shadow and the Black Knight were fucking trash all around, failing at even the most basic of game design. It's like Sonic Team never evolved past the late 90s, when 3D games ran amok with horrible camera angles, clipping, glitches and terrible controls. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WaterLink 08/07/21 3:03:28 AM #23:	Welcome to Sonic Team we make games I think --- https://imgur.com/TFF3Nn8 Joe Burrow, the legend <cite>WaterLink posted [p:956856965] in Damn Sonic... [t:79601980]...</cite> <quote>Welcome to Sonic Team we make games I think</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SomeLikeItHoth 08/07/21 3:08:56 AM #24:	Sonic is bad. --- FAM FOREVER. <cite>SomeLikeItHoth posted [p:956857041] in Damn Sonic... [t:79601980]...</cite> <quote>Sonic is bad. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scotty_Rogers 08/07/21 3:09:24 AM #25:	SomeLikeItHoth posted... Sonic is bad. CHAD Mario and Virgin Sonic --- Da GOAT Fam 2021! <cite>Scotty_Rogers posted [p:956857044] in Damn Sonic... [t:79601980]...</cite> <quote>SomeLikeItHoth posted... </cite> <quote>Sonic is bad.</quote> CHAD Mario and Virgin Sonic </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SomeLikeItHoth 08/07/21 3:10:21 AM #26:	Scotty_Rogers posted... CHAD Mario and Virgin Sonic Its a me Mario. --- FAM FOREVER. <cite>SomeLikeItHoth posted [p:956857055] in Damn Sonic... [t:79601980]...</cite> <quote>Scotty_Rogers posted... </cite> <quote>CHAD Mario and Virgin Sonic</quote>Its a me Mario. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xethuminra 08/07/21 3:40:16 AM #27:	Its entirely possible that youre out of the demographic...... I stopped caring about Sonic games after 3 & CD. Adventure was a landmark game & Adventure 2 improved on that system greatly. Besides that? The Flickies? The Chaotix? The anime besides the OVA? Thats not stuff thats meant for me, I think. Theres plenty of people out there who like Sonic, but dont want it to be dark or serious or hard. And they dont want mainstream attention from the heavyweight crowd. The movie was another clear sign of that. Trying to have an intelligent discussion about the redesign was a nightmare. People just did not care if the CGI took a hit. They didnt care if it became generic. They didnt care that the first design looked fine in motion & passed around these minced-up stills & concept art around the internet demanding that the movie be taken from the ground up. Then, they celebrated this event as a victory & had very strange discussions about Detective Pikachu. stuff like Sonic & Pokmon was never where I wanted to stick my flag anyway I dont care whos playing it. Quite the contrary Same with Spider-Man. It shouldnt bother me that theyre catering to a new audience. We aint reading or watching Spider-Man every day, or dressing up as Spider-Man for Halloween. We dont want to be Spider-Man when we get older. We dont need a little help transitioning from learning the alphabet to getting used to the prospect of going for a run. Its just important to understand that these franchises geared towards younger people cant possibly meet both ends, IMO. I remember when all the older heads reared at me for loving Ultimate Spider-Man back in the day. Same thing is happening here. Same with Star Wars. If you venture outside the main films, a few gems of the EU, and a handful of stellar games.... dont be surprised when you run into a heap of junk. Its always been that way. Even back in the day, if you werent upset about the Ewoks, you were upset about Slave Leia. Theyre trying to ride the line between impressing film buffs, selling teddy bears, selling action figures, and pioneering special effects techniques for the rest of Hollywood. What can you expect from that? What we could use in total is Adventure 3, but with the way the playerbase has become divided & united in the past few generations, I dont see that really being a thing. People are fine with Breath of the Wild, for example. She aint Ocarina of Time. She aint no Sonic Adventure neither. Nor is she a Shadow of the Colossus. The new kids are looking for their golden goose is whats happening. I wish them the best of luck. Sometimes it skips a generation. The sooner theyre confronted with better VR, the better, IMO. But yea Hes a hedgehog who stole Samuss shoes & Gokus powers. Werewolves were popular at the time. Souls was popular at the time. DBZ made a comeback. Looks normal to me. I love alternate versions of Spawn. Apparently these people love alternate versions of Sonic. Im fine with it. Remember when you dropped off Power Rangers but the younger people around you who didnt get into the one you watched started to pick it up and then the exact same thing happened to them? No problem. It just means youre ready for the next level. Very few avenues are eternal <cite>Xethuminra posted [p:956857406] in Damn Sonic... [t:79601980]...</cite> <quote>Its entirely possible that youre out of the demographic...... I stopped caring about Sonic games after 3 & CD. Adventure was a landmark game & Adventure 2 improved on that system greatly. Besides that? The Flickies? The Chaotix? The anime besides the OVA? Thats not stuff thats meant for me, I think. Theres plenty of people out there who like Sonic, but dont want it to be dark or serious or hard. And they dont want mainstream attention from the heavyweight crowd. The movie was another clear sign of that. Trying to have an intelligent discussion about the redesign was a nightmare. People just did not care if the CGI took a hit. They didnt care if it became generic. They didnt care that the first design looked fine in motion & passed around these minced-up stills & concept art around the internet demanding that the movie be taken from the ground up. Then, they celebrated this event as a victory & had very strange discussions about Detective Pikachu. stuff like Sonic & Pokmon was never where I wanted to stick my flag anyway I dont care whos playing it. Quite the contrary Same with Spider-Man. It shouldnt bother me that theyre catering to a new audience. We aint reading or watching Spider-Man every day, or dressing up as Spider-Man for Halloween. We dont want to be Spider-Man when we get older. We dont need a little help transitioning from learning the alphabet to getting used to the prospect of going for a run. Its just important to understand that these franchises geared towards younger people cant possibly meet both ends, IMO. I remember when all the older heads reared at me for loving Ultimate Spider-Man back in the day. Same thing is happening here. Same with Star Wars. If you venture outside the main films, a few gems of the EU, and a handful of stellar games.... dont be surprised when you run into a heap of junk. Its always been that way. Even back in the day, if you werent upset about the Ewoks, you were upset about Slave Leia. Theyre trying to ride the line between impressing film buffs, selling teddy bears, selling action figures, and pioneering special effects techniques for the rest of Hollywood. What can you expect from that? What we could use in total is Adventure 3, but with the way the playerbase has become divided & united in the past few generations, I dont see that really being a thing. People are fine with Breath of the Wild, for example. She aint Ocarina of Time. She aint no Sonic Adventure neither. Nor is she a Shadow of the Colossus. The new kids are looking for their golden goose is whats happening. I wish them the best of luck. Sometimes it skips a generation. The sooner theyre confronted with better VR, the better, IMO. But yea Hes a hedgehog who stole Samuss shoes & Gokus powers. Werewolves were popular at the time. Souls was popular at the time. DBZ made a comeback. Looks normal to me. I love alternate versions of Spawn. Apparently these people love alternate versions of Sonic. Im fine with it. Remember when you dropped off Power Rangers but the younger people around you who didnt get into the one you watched started to pick it up and then the exact same thing happened to them? No problem. It just means youre ready for the next level. Very few avenues are eternal </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pegusus123456 08/07/21 3:52:29 AM #28:	Xethuminra posted... The movie was another clear sign of that. Trying to have an intelligent discussion about the redesign was a nightmare. People just did not care if the CGI took a hit. They didnt care if it became generic. They didnt care that the first design looked fine in motion & passed around these minced-up stills & concept art around the internet demanding that the movie be taken from the ground up No offense, but I just immediately stopped reading here. --- https://imgur.com/Er6TT https://imgur.com/Er6TT https://imgur.com/Er6TT So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur <cite>pegusus123456 posted [p:956857535] in Damn Sonic... [t:79601980]...</cite> <quote>Xethuminra posted... </cite> <quote> The movie was another clear sign of that. Trying to have an intelligent discussion about the redesign was a nightmare. People just did not care if the CGI took a hit. They didnt care if it became generic. They didnt care that the first design looked fine in motion & passed around these minced-up stills & concept art around the internet demanding that the movie be taken from the ground up</quote>No offense, but I just immediately stopped reading here. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xethuminra 08/07/21 3:52:50 AM #29:	pegusus123456 posted... No offense, but I just immediately stopped reading here. Thats exactly what I mean, baby. <cite>Xethuminra posted [p:956857543] in Damn Sonic... [t:79601980]...</cite> <quote>pegusus123456 posted... </cite> <quote>No offense, but I just immediately stopped reading here.</quote>Thats exactly what I mean, baby. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jabodie 08/07/21 3:58:05 AM #30:	I replayed Sonic Adventure for the first time since I was a kid a year ago. It was shockingly bad. Maybe 2 is better, but 1 was so bad I had no desire to play a sequel. It's funny because I thought it was awesome as a kid on DreamCast. --- <insert sig here> <cite>Jabodie posted [p:956857592] in Damn Sonic... [t:79601980]...</cite> <quote>I replayed Sonic Adventure for the first time since I was a kid a year ago. It was shockingly bad. Maybe 2 is better, but 1 was so bad I had no desire to play a sequel. It's funny because I thought it was awesome as a kid on DreamCast. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xethuminra 08/07/21 4:00:30 AM #31:	Jabodie posted... I replayed Sonic Adventure for the first time since I was a kid a year ago. It was shockingly bad. Maybe 2 is better, but 1 was so bad I had no desire to play a sequel. It's funny because I thought it was awesome as a kid on DreamCast. It is. But you gotta be in the right mindset for that. If youre paying attention to the graphics & approaching it with a Souls-level player-skill, and dont identify with Sonics relationship with Amy, and arent afraid of Chaos, and arent getting lost in the levels..... Its just not gonna hit home the same way. I still have no interest in 99.999% of Sonic, although I have respect for the Crown Jewels of the franchise. <cite>Xethuminra posted [p:956857622] in Damn Sonic... [t:79601980]...</cite> <quote>Jabodie posted... </cite> <quote>I replayed Sonic Adventure for the first time since I was a kid a year ago. It was shockingly bad. Maybe 2 is better, but 1 was so bad I had no desire to play a sequel. It's funny because I thought it was awesome as a kid on DreamCast.</quote>It is. But you gotta be in the right mindset for that. If youre paying attention to the graphics & approaching it with a Souls-level player-skill, and dont identify with Sonics relationship with Amy, and arent afraid of Chaos, and arent getting lost in the levels..... Its just not gonna hit home the same way. I still have no interest in 99.999% of Sonic, although I have respect for the Crown Jewels of the franchise. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MyMainAccount 08/07/21 4:04:57 AM #32:	Scotty_Rogers posted... Sonic Team was really mad when Sega of America removed Sonic's human girlfriend in Sonic 1 Funny how when they give Sonic a human girlfriend like they always wanted in Sonic 2006, they end up making the worst Sonic game of all time lmao https://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Madonna In Summer of Sonic 2011 however, Yuji Naka stated that reason for removing her was to due the overused cliche of saving the kidnapped heroine that is also featured in the rivaling Super Mario Bros. series, so the staff team decided to change the story direction to center around the conflict between Sonic and Dr. Eggman.[3] Seems like that wasn't Sega of America bit that's still weird to know they considered it.. --- My Real Blog https://veryrealwow.wixsite.com/website Send a PM with questions and I will reply on my blog. If desired, request a pseudonym. <cite>MyMainAccount posted [p:956857658] in Damn Sonic... [t:79601980]...</cite> <quote>Scotty_Rogers posted... </cite> <quote>Sonic Team was really mad when Sega of America removed Sonic's human girlfriend in Sonic 1 Funny how when they give Sonic a human girlfriend like they always wanted in Sonic 2006, they end up making the worst Sonic game of all time lmao</quote> https://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Madonna In Summer of Sonic 2011 however, Yuji Naka stated that reason for removing her was to due the overused cliche of saving the kidnapped heroine that is also featured in the rivaling Super Mario Bros. series, so the staff team decided to change the story direction to center around the conflict between Sonic and Dr. Eggman.[3] Seems like that wasn't Sega of America bit that's still weird to know they considered it.. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PiOverlord 08/07/21 4:10:20 AM #33:	Scotty_Rogers posted... CHAD Mario and Virgin Sonic --- Number of legendary 500 post topics: 33, 500th posts: 31; PiO ATTN: 5 RotM wins 1, LETTEN MY ARROW FLYEN TRUE <cite>PiOverlord posted [p:956857718] in Damn Sonic... [t:79601980]...</cite> <quote>Scotty_Rogers posted... </cite> <quote>CHAD Mario and Virgin Sonic</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scotty_Rogers 08/07/21 4:11:23 AM #34:	Actually, Naka said in an interview for Sonic's 20th anniversary that Sega of America had that removed. Former Sega of America employees also interviewed confirmed it. I wouldn't be surprised if it being a tired cliche was also a factor, though. --- Da GOAT Fam 2021! <cite>Scotty_Rogers posted [p:956857732] in Damn Sonic... [t:79601980]...</cite> <quote>Actually, Naka said in an interview for Sonic's 20th anniversary that Sega of America had that removed. Former Sega of America employees also interviewed confirmed it. I wouldn't be surprised if it being a tired cliche was also a factor, though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SomeLikeItHoth 08/08/21 4:59:44 AM #35:	I hope Sonic Adventure 3 happens so people can finally realize how bad the series is and they only want a new entry due to nostalgia. --- FAM FOREVER. <cite>SomeLikeItHoth posted [p:956885973] in Damn Sonic... [t:79601980]...</cite> <quote>I hope Sonic Adventure 3 happens so people can finally realize how bad the series is and they only want a new entry due to nostalgia. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DJquackquack 08/08/21 5:02:47 AM #36:	UnfairRepresent posted... It was weird they gave him a human princess love interest Especially considering Amy Rose existed. Everything about that game is wrong. --- If you die in Canada, do you die in real life? <cite>DJquackquack posted [p:956886008] in Damn Sonic... [t:79601980]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>It was weird they gave him a human princess love interest Especially considering Amy Rose existed.</quote>Everything about that game is wrong. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MyMainAccount 08/08/21 5:11:27 AM #38:	SomeLikeItHoth posted... I hope Sonic Adventure 3 happens so people can finally realize how bad the series is and they only want a new entry due to nostalgia. It wasn't bad, it's just dated because a lot of it was early 3d platformer weirdness. Nobody wants a game exactly like THAT. --- My Real Blog https://veryrealwow.wixsite.com/website Send a PM with questions and I will reply on my blog. If desired, request a pseudonym. <cite>MyMainAccount posted [p:956886098] in Damn Sonic... [t:79601980]...</cite> <quote>SomeLikeItHoth posted... </cite> <quote>I hope Sonic Adventure 3 happens so people can finally realize how bad the series is and they only want a new entry due to nostalgia.</quote> It wasn't bad, it's just dated because a lot of it was early 3d platformer weirdness. Nobody wants a game exactly like THAT. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dave_is_slick 08/08/21 5:21:21 AM #39:	Xethuminra posted... Its entirely possible that youre out of the demographic...... Stopped reading here. They were bad games with very few gems in them. --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM <cite>dave_is_slick posted [p:956886208] in Damn Sonic... [t:79601980]...</cite> <quote>Xethuminra posted... </cite> <quote>Its entirely possible that youre out of the demographic......</quote>Stopped reading here. They were bad games with very few gems in them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pegusus123456 08/08/21 5:56:15 AM #40:	dave_is_slick posted... Stopped reading here. They were bad games with very few gems in them. Yeah, I'm kind of baffled by that post which is basically, "It's a good game, you just have to be in this specific mindset on a Tuesday morning with the temperature at 67F or you'll mistakenly think it's a bad game." --- https://imgur.com/Er6TT https://imgur.com/Er6TT https://imgur.com/Er6TT So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur <cite>pegusus123456 posted [p:956886497] in Damn Sonic... [t:79601980]...</cite> <quote>dave_is_slick posted... </cite> <quote>Stopped reading here. They were bad games with very few gems in them.</quote>Yeah, I'm kind of baffled by that post which is basically, "It's a good game, you just have to be in this specific mindset on a Tuesday morning with the temperature at 67F or you'll mistakenly think it's a bad game." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spikethedevil 08/08/21 6:10:56 AM #41:	The first image isnt even of Sonic. Its still a shit game though. --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! <cite>spikethedevil posted [p:956886611] in Damn Sonic... [t:79601980]...</cite> <quote>The first image isnt even of Sonic. Its still a shit game though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Scotty_Rogers 08/09/21 1:00:21 AM #43:	spikethedevil posted... The first image isnt even of Sonic. Its still a shit game though. It's Black Emo Edgy Sonic --- Da GOAT Fam 2021! <cite>Scotty_Rogers posted [p:956911264] in Damn Sonic... [t:79601980]...</cite> <quote>spikethedevil posted... </cite> <quote>The first image isnt even of Sonic. Its still a shit game though.</quote> It's Black Emo Edgy Sonic </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EyeWontBeFooled 08/09/21 1:51:15 AM #44:	Scotty_Rogers posted... Ayo fuck Sonic and the Black Knight. I hated that shit even when I was 13 and crazy about Sonic. I enjoyed Shadow, Sonic 2006, Secret Rings and Unleashed when I first played them, but I disliked Black Knight right off The only Sonic game I refuse to finish. --- Welcome to the Brave New World of 1984! Current temp: Fahrenheit 451 It's never a bad day, and always a good night, so BE HAPPY and enjoy your stay! <cite>EyeWontBeFooled posted [p:956912032] in Damn Sonic... [t:79601980]...</cite> <quote>Scotty_Rogers posted... </cite> <quote>Ayo fuck Sonic and the Black Knight. I hated that shit even when I was 13 and crazy about Sonic. I enjoyed Shadow, Sonic 2006, Secret Rings and Unleashed when I first played them, but I disliked Black Knight right off</quote>The only Sonic game I refuse to finish. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scotty_Rogers 08/09/21 2:06:49 AM #45:	Secret Rings is actually almost as bad as Black Knight, though. Game deserved much worse reviews when it first came out. --- Da GOAT Fam 2021! <cite>Scotty_Rogers posted [p:956912229] in Damn Sonic... [t:79601980]...</cite> <quote>Secret Rings is actually almost as bad as Black Knight, though. Game deserved much worse reviews when it first came out. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spikethedevil 08/09/21 6:04:08 AM #46:	You liked Shadow and 06? WTF? --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! <cite>spikethedevil posted [p:956914542] in Damn Sonic... [t:79601980]...</cite> <quote>You liked Shadow and 06? WTF? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xethuminra 08/09/21 6:04:38 AM #47:	spikethedevil posted... Shadow and 06 Yessir <cite>Xethuminra posted [p:956914548] in Damn Sonic... [t:79601980]...</cite> <quote>spikethedevil posted... </cite> <quote>Shadow and 06</quote>Yessir </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spikethedevil 08/09/21 6:05:57 AM #48:	The worst games in the series, hell 06 isnt even finished and the ending literally retcons it. Fuck they dont even explain how Blaze is there. --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! <cite>spikethedevil posted [p:956914562] in Damn Sonic... [t:79601980]...</cite> <quote>The worst games in the series, hell 06 isnt even finished and the ending literally retcons it. Fuck they dont even explain how Blaze is there. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xethuminra 08/09/21 6:06:47 AM #49:	spikethedevil posted... The worst games in the series, hell 06 isnt even finished and the ending literally retcons it. Fuck they dont even explain how Blaze is there. The Highlander 2 of Sonic Games top kek kappa <cite>Xethuminra posted [p:956914570] in Damn Sonic... [t:79601980]...</cite> <quote>spikethedevil posted... </cite> <quote>The worst games in the series, hell 06 isnt even finished and the ending literally retcons it. Fuck they dont even explain how Blaze is there.</quote>The Highlander 2 of Sonic Games top kek kappa </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZevLoveDOOM 08/09/21 6:07:29 AM #50:	emo edgelords, werewolves, knights, bestiality... not even Mario suffered this much. lol <cite>ZevLoveDOOM posted [p:956914580] in Damn Sonic... [t:79601980]...</cite> <quote>emo edgelords, werewolves, knights, bestiality... not even Mario suffered this much. lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spikethedevil 08/09/21 6:11:32 AM #51:	Mario has always been fine tbh. --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! <cite>spikethedevil posted [p:956914624] in Damn Sonic... [t:79601980]...</cite> <quote>Mario has always been fine tbh. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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