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BlackOmnimon 08/05/21 11:13:36 AM #1:	Limited Political Freedoms but you get guaranteed housing, job, etc. No Yes Limited Political Freedoms but you get guaranteed housing, job, etc. - Results (63 votes) No 58.73% (37 votes) 37 Yes 41.27% (26 votes) 26 If you take the deal, there would be no things like voting, political parties, freedom of speech, etc. But you and everyone else gets guaranteed a good-paying job, a decent house, a gaming PC, food, etc. completely for free. --- . <cite>BlackOmnimon posted [p:956799460] in Limited Po... [t:79599702]...</cite> <quote> Limited Political Freedoms but you get guaranteed housing, job, etc. No Yes Vote View Results Limited Political Freedoms but you get guaranteed housing, job, etc. - Results (63 votes) No 58.73% (37 votes) 37 Yes 41.27% (26 votes) 26 Show Voting Form If you take the deal, there would be no things like voting, political parties, freedom of speech, etc. But you and everyone else gets guaranteed a good-paying job, a decent house, a gaming PC, food, etc. completely for free. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 08/05/21 11:17:18 AM #2:	I get lifted out of abject misery and poverty, but I cant shitpost conspiracy theories about how the vaccines are turning the frogs into Bill Gates personal dance troupe on Facebook? Decisions, decisions. --- "If you wanna grow your business you need to exploit more." ~Austin_Era_II "Out of those two? Racist for me... easily." ~Vicious_Dios <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:956799568] in Limited Po... [t:79599702]...</cite> <quote>I get lifted out of abject misery and poverty, but I cant shitpost conspiracy theories about how the vaccines are turning the frogs into Bill Gates personal dance troupe on Facebook? Decisions, decisions. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 08/05/21 11:20:25 AM #3:	I believe these may be yours... <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:956799658] in Limited Po... [t:79599702]...</cite> <quote>I believe these may be yours... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 08/05/21 11:21:12 AM #4:	POV: you are about to lose both <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:956799678] in Limited Po... [t:79599702]...</cite> <quote>POV: you are about to lose both </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unsugarized_Foo 08/05/21 11:21:37 AM #5:	I dont want a job --- "All I have is my balls and my word, and I don't break them for anyone!"-Tony Montana <cite>Unsugarized_Foo posted [p:956799690] in Limited Po... [t:79599702]...</cite> <quote>I dont want a job </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dark_SilverX 08/05/21 11:22:36 AM #7:	just free housing and free meals --- "Dribble these cheeks, Bugs"~ Lebron James don't compare games to feces -- if you've an opinion worth mentioning, do so civilly <cite>Dark_SilverX posted [p:956799717] in Limited Po... [t:79599702]...</cite> <quote>just free housing and free meals </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 08/05/21 11:26:09 AM #8:	16-BITTER posted... But you love to shitpost What I love are material conditions befitting that of a human being. --- "If you wanna grow your business you need to exploit more." ~Austin_Era_II "Out of those two? Racist for me... easily." ~Vicious_Dios <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:956799817] in Limited Po... [t:79599702]...</cite> <quote>16-BITTER posted... </cite> <quote>But you love to shitpost</quote> What I love are material conditions befitting that of a human being. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shezarr 08/05/21 11:28:39 AM #9:	Broseph_Stalin posted... POV: you are about to lose both It's very rare that you make a good post but I guess it's bound to happen on occasion --- The artist formerly known as RebelElite791 <cite>Shezarr posted [p:956799882] in Limited Po... [t:79599702]...</cite> <quote>Broseph_Stalin posted... </cite> <quote>POV: you are about to lose both</quote>It's very rare that you make a good post but I guess it's bound to happen on occasion </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackOmnimon 08/05/21 11:30:13 AM #10:	Shablagoo posted... I get lifted out of abject misery and poverty, but I cant shitpost conspiracy theories about how the vaccines are turning the frogs into Bill Gates personal dance troupe on Facebook? Decisions, decisions. Yeah people like Tucker Carlson or Trump himself would get arrested and reeducated. <cite>BlackOmnimon posted [p:956799925] in Limited Po... [t:79599702]...</cite> <quote>Shablagoo posted... </cite> <quote>I get lifted out of abject misery and poverty, but I cant shitpost conspiracy theories about how the vaccines are turning the frogs into Bill Gates personal dance troupe on Facebook? Decisions, decisions.</quote> Yeah people like Tucker Carlson or Trump himself would get arrested and reeducated. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YourDrunkFather 08/05/21 11:30:18 AM #11:	So, communism. No thanks --- One bourbon,one scotch,one beer <cite>YourDrunkFather posted [p:956799929] in Limited Po... [t:79599702]...</cite> <quote>So, communism. No thanks </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EmbraceOfDeath 08/05/21 11:31:13 AM #12:	Fuck no. --- PSN/GT: BigDaffej <cite>EmbraceOfDeath posted [p:956799949] in Limited Po... [t:79599702]...</cite> <quote>Fuck no. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackOmnimon 08/05/21 11:32:35 AM #13:	Do you people really prefer the ability to choose between Biden and Trump to have literally all your material necessities covered forever? Hmm. <cite>BlackOmnimon posted [p:956799986] in Limited Po... [t:79599702]...</cite> <quote>Do you people really prefer the ability to choose between Biden and Trump to have literally all your material necessities covered forever? Hmm. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Atralis 08/05/21 11:32:39 AM #14:	BlackOmnimon posted... But you and everyone else gets guaranteed a good-paying job, a decent house, food, etc. completely for free. I already have all of those things. One problem with this system is that it treats things like housing and food as a gift from the state rather than as something that you earned for yourself. <cite>Atralis posted [p:956799989] in Limited Po... [t:79599702]...</cite> <quote> BlackOmnimon posted... </cite> <quote>But you and everyone else gets guaranteed a good-paying job, a decent house, food, etc. completely for free.</quote> I already have all of those things. One problem with this system is that it treats things like housing and food as a gift from the state rather than as something that you earned for yourself. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cocytus 08/05/21 11:32:49 AM #15:	Questionmarktarius posted... I believe these may be yours... lol <cite>Cocytus posted [p:956799995] in Limited Po... [t:79599702]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>I believe these may be yours... </quote>lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackOmnimon 08/05/21 11:33:37 AM #16:	Atralis posted... I already have all of those things. One problem with this system is that it treats things like housing and food as a gift from the state rather than as something that you earned for yourself. But things like housing and food shouldn't be something that you "earn". You literally need them to exist. <cite>BlackOmnimon posted [p:956800010] in Limited Po... [t:79599702]...</cite> <quote>Atralis posted... </cite> <quote>I already have all of those things. One problem with this system is that it treats things like housing and food as a gift from the state rather than as something that you earned for yourself.</quote> But things like housing and food shouldn't be something that you "earn". You literally need them to exist. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackOmnimon 08/05/21 11:34:25 AM #17:	What if I throw a gaming PC into the deal? <cite>BlackOmnimon posted [p:956800028] in Limited Po... [t:79599702]...</cite> <quote>What if I throw a gaming PC into the deal? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 08/05/21 11:36:11 AM #18:	BlackOmnimon posted... Yeah people like Tucker Carlson or Trump himself would get arrested and reeducated. Liberals pretend like theyd love that but in reality they worship personalities like Tucker and Trump just as much as their actual supporters do. They dont want anything to actually be done about their abhorrent behavior which has caused demonstrable harm to our nation. Theyre limp, comfortable cowards. --- "If you wanna grow your business you need to exploit more." ~Austin_Era_II "Out of those two? Racist for me... easily." ~Vicious_Dios <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:956800084] in Limited Po... [t:79599702]...</cite> <quote>BlackOmnimon posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah people like Tucker Carlson or Trump himself would get arrested and reeducated.</quote> Liberals pretend like theyd love that but in reality they worship personalities like Tucker and Trump just as much as their actual supporters do. They dont want anything to actually be done about their abhorrent behavior which has caused demonstrable harm to our nation. Theyre limp, comfortable cowards. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ilishe 08/05/21 11:40:32 AM #19:	BlackOmnimon posted... But things like housing and food shouldn't be something that you "earn". You literally need them to exist. But does society need you to exist? It doesn't. Society has no need of troublesome burdens whose only goal in life is to have free housing, sustainment and entertainment. This of course does absolutely not include people whose disabilities disqualify them from providing useful services or labor. See, I can give you undeniably hard truth as an argument against your communist bullshit. --- ~Phoenix Nine~ ~Victory needs no explanation; defeat allows none.~ <cite>Ilishe posted [p:956800213] in Limited Po... [t:79599702]...</cite> <quote>BlackOmnimon posted... </cite> <quote>But things like housing and food shouldn't be something that you "earn". You literally need them to exist.</quote> But does society need you to exist? It doesn't. Society has no need of troublesome burdens whose only goal in life is to have free housing, sustainment and entertainment. This of course does absolutely not include people whose disabilities disqualify them from providing useful services or labor. See, I can give you undeniably hard truth as an argument against your communist bullshit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 08/05/21 11:43:10 AM #20:	Ilishe posted... But does society need you to exist? It doesn't. And this, is why communism is disastrous. You exist solely to serve the state, and continue to exist at its discretion. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:956800285] in Limited Po... [t:79599702]...</cite> <quote>Ilishe posted... </cite> <quote>But does society need you to exist? It doesn't.</quote>And this, is why communism is disastrous. You exist solely to serve the state, and continue to exist at its discretion. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 08/05/21 11:43:41 AM #21:	Ilishe posted... See, I can give you undeniably hard truth as an argument against your communist bulls*. glommunism is when everybody lazy and no work, 10 billigazillion dead --- "If you wanna grow your business you need to exploit more." ~Austin_Era_II "Out of those two? Racist for me... easily." ~Vicious_Dios <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:956800295] in Limited Po... [t:79599702]...</cite> <quote>Ilishe posted... </cite> <quote>See, I can give you undeniably hard truth as an argument against your communist bulls*. </quote> glommunism is when everybody lazy and no work, 10 billigazillion dead </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackOmnimon 08/05/21 11:48:34 AM #22:	Ilishe posted... But does society need you to exist? It doesn't. Society has no need of troublesome burdens whose only goal in life is to have free housing, sustainment and entertainment. This of course does absolutely not include people whose disabilities disqualify them from providing useful services or labor. See, I can give you undeniably hard truth as an argument against your communist bullshit. I don't like that mentality that you exist only to make your "betters" more money. To be just another cog in the machine. I think people have a right to exist, regardless of wether their existence is "productive" or not. Questionmarktarius posted... And this, is why communism is disastrous. You exist solely to serve the state, and continue to exist at its discretion. How is this take different from "You exist solely to serve the economy and the free market, and continue to exist at its discretion". Your statement is pure projection. <cite>BlackOmnimon posted [p:956800443] in Limited Po... [t:79599702]...</cite> <quote>Ilishe posted... </cite> <quote>But does society need you to exist? It doesn't. Society has no need of troublesome burdens whose only goal in life is to have free housing, sustainment and entertainment. This of course does absolutely not include people whose disabilities disqualify them from providing useful services or labor. See, I can give you undeniably hard truth as an argument against your communist bullshit.</quote> I don't like that mentality that you exist only to make your "betters" more money. To be just another cog in the machine. I think people have a right to exist, regardless of wether their existence is "productive" or not. Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>And this, is why communism is disastrous. You exist solely to serve the state, and continue to exist at its discretion.</quote> How is this take different from "You exist solely to serve the economy and the free market, and continue to exist at its discretion". Your statement is pure projection. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 08/05/21 11:50:46 AM #23:	BlackOmnimon posted... How is this take different from "You exist solely to serve the economy and the free market, and continue to exist at its discretion". The free market doesn't care. It's completely indifferent if you starve to death in a gutter. The end result is essentially identical, yes. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:956800506] in Limited Po... [t:79599702]...</cite> <quote>BlackOmnimon posted... </cite> <quote>How is this take different from "You exist solely to serve the economy and the free market, and continue to exist at its discretion".</quote>The free market doesn't care. It's completely indifferent if you starve to death in a gutter. The end result is essentially identical, yes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Atralis 08/05/21 11:53:20 AM #24:	BlackOmnimon posted... But things like housing and food shouldn't be something that you "earn". You literally need them to exist. I disagree. In a way I've lived the "to each according to their needs from each according to their abilities" life when I was enlisted in the Army. I got "free housing" in a small room I didn't choose with a roommate I didn't choose. I got "free food" in the form of a meal card that could only be used in on base dining facilities that sucked. When food and housing becomes a "gift" that is given to you rather than something you pay for then you end up losing the freedom to choose the form that gift takes. Do you want to live in a 1 bedroom apartment and spend money on vacations or do you want to buy a house and have less cash for traveling but have more space. Not your call if someone else is making the choice for you. <cite>Atralis posted [p:956800579] in Limited Po... [t:79599702]...</cite> <quote>BlackOmnimon posted... </cite> <quote>But things like housing and food shouldn't be something that you "earn". You literally need them to exist.</quote> I disagree. In a way I've lived the "to each according to their needs from each according to their abilities" life when I was enlisted in the Army. I got "free housing" in a small room I didn't choose with a roommate I didn't choose. I got "free food" in the form of a meal card that could only be used in on base dining facilities that sucked. When food and housing becomes a "gift" that is given to you rather than something you pay for then you end up losing the freedom to choose the form that gift takes. Do you want to live in a 1 bedroom apartment and spend money on vacations or do you want to buy a house and have less cash for traveling but have more space. Not your call if someone else is making the choice for you. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 08/05/21 11:54:09 AM #25:	BlackOmnimon posted... I don't like that mentality that you exist only to make your "betters" more money. To be just another cog in the machine. I think people have a right to exist, regardless of wether their existence is "productive" or not. But people only existing to build me a free house and grow free food is cool I guess. <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:956800605] in Limited Po... [t:79599702]...</cite> <quote>BlackOmnimon posted... </cite> <quote>I don't like that mentality that you exist only to make your "betters" more money. To be just another cog in the machine. I think people have a right to exist, regardless of wether their existence is "productive" or not.</quote> But people only existing to build me a free house and grow free food is cool I guess. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lairen 08/05/21 11:54:27 AM #26:	As long as im free enough to mind my business at home on my free time and play video games and watch movies. --- When it rains, it pours. <cite>Lairen posted [p:956800616] in Limited Po... [t:79599702]...</cite> <quote>As long as im free enough to mind my business at home on my free time and play video games and watch movies. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shablagoo 08/05/21 11:57:38 AM #28:	Atralis posted... I disagree. In a way I've lived the "to each according to their needs from each according to their abilities" life when I was enlisted in the Army. I got "free housing" in a small room I didn't choose with a roommate I didn't choose. I got "free food" in the form of a meal card that could only be used in on base dining facilities that sucked. When food and housing becomes a "gift" that is given to you rather than something you pay for then you end up losing the freedom to choose the form that gift takes. Do you want to live in a 1 bedroom apartment and spend money on vacations or do you want to buy a house and have less cash for traveling but have more space. Not your call if someone else is making the choice for you. You realize none of this jives with Marxism, right? Yes I would rather have that stuff than be homeless and starving. However, in a communist system, nothing says that having that stuff is the limit of existence. You can have the luxuries you want to have. --- "If you wanna grow your business you need to exploit more." ~Austin_Era_II "Out of those two? Racist for me... easily." ~Vicious_Dios <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:956800708] in Limited Po... [t:79599702]...</cite> <quote>Atralis posted... </cite> <quote>I disagree. In a way I've lived the "to each according to their needs from each according to their abilities" life when I was enlisted in the Army. I got "free housing" in a small room I didn't choose with a roommate I didn't choose. I got "free food" in the form of a meal card that could only be used in on base dining facilities that sucked. When food and housing becomes a "gift" that is given to you rather than something you pay for then you end up losing the freedom to choose the form that gift takes. Do you want to live in a 1 bedroom apartment and spend money on vacations or do you want to buy a house and have less cash for traveling but have more space. Not your call if someone else is making the choice for you.</quote> You realize none of this jives with Marxism, right? Yes I would rather have that stuff than be homeless and starving. However, in a communist system, nothing says that having that stuff is the limit of existence. You can have the luxuries you want to have. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cocytus 08/05/21 11:58:40 AM #29:	BlackOmnimon posted... What if I throw a gaming PC into the deal? Oh shit son! <cite>Cocytus posted [p:956800741] in Limited Po... [t:79599702]...</cite> <quote>BlackOmnimon posted... </cite> <quote>What if I throw a gaming PC into the deal?</quote>Oh shit son! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 08/05/21 12:00:48 PM #30:	Shablagoo posted... However, in a communist system, nothing says that having that stuff is the limit of existence. Apart from, you know, every time it's been tried. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:956800801] in Limited Po... [t:79599702]...</cite> <quote>Shablagoo posted... </cite> <quote>However, in a communist system, nothing says that having that stuff is the limit of existence.</quote>Apart from, you know, every time it's been tried. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Squall28 08/05/21 12:01:01 PM #31:	Is the "guranteed" job a labor camp? --- You can't go back and change the beginning, but you can start where you are and change the ending. -Misattributed to CS Lewis <cite>Squall28 posted [p:956800807] in Limited Po... [t:79599702]...</cite> <quote>Is the "guranteed" job a labor camp? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 08/05/21 12:02:20 PM #32:	Questionmarktarius posted... Apart from, you know, every time it's been tried. If youre speaking from a place of historical ignorance or lying, sure. In reality, communist revolutions have massively improved peoples lives. --- "If you wanna grow your business you need to exploit more." ~Austin_Era_II "Out of those two? Racist for me... easily." ~Vicious_Dios <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:956800840] in Limited Po... [t:79599702]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>Apart from, you know, every time it's been tried.</quote> If youre speaking from a place of historical ignorance or lying, sure. In reality, communist revolutions have massively improved peoples lives. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRadiant 08/05/21 12:03:15 PM #33:	Shablagoo posted... In reality, communist revolutions have massively improved peoples lives. Tell it to the Uyghurs and victims of the Holodomor --- She/her <cite>TheRadiant posted [p:956800866] in Limited Po... [t:79599702]...</cite> <quote>Shablagoo posted... </cite> <quote>In reality, communist revolutions have massively improved peoples lives.</quote>Tell it to the Uyghurs and victims of the Holodomor </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 08/05/21 12:06:04 PM #34:	No thanks, Mrs. 16 Karma. --- "If you wanna grow your business you need to exploit more." ~Austin_Era_II "Out of those two? Racist for me... easily." ~Vicious_Dios <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:956800958] in Limited Po... [t:79599702]...</cite> <quote>No thanks, Mrs. 16 Karma. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xavier_On_High 08/05/21 12:11:41 PM #35:	What is politics if not a collective endeavour to allow as many people as possible to own a high end gaming PC? I'm in. --- http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ltnafhjcUz1qmxswbo1_500.gif <cite>Xavier_On_High posted [p:956801127] in Limited Po... [t:79599702]...</cite> <quote>What is politics if not a collective endeavour to allow as many people as possible to own a high end gaming PC? I'm in. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 08/05/21 12:14:31 PM #36:	Xavier_On_High posted... What is politics if not a collective endeavour to allow as many people as possible to own a high end gaming PC? That "high end gaming PC" <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:956801203] in Limited Po... [t:79599702]...</cite> <quote>Xavier_On_High posted... </cite> <quote>What is politics if not a collective endeavour to allow as many people as possible to own a high end gaming PC?</quote>That "high end gaming PC" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xavier_On_High 08/05/21 12:19:50 PM #37:	Questionmarktarius posted... That "high end gaming PC" Hey, it runs at 64 Kasparovs per second. --- http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ltnafhjcUz1qmxswbo1_500.gif <cite>Xavier_On_High posted [p:956801364] in Limited Po... [t:79599702]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>That "high end gaming PC" </quote> Hey, it runs at 64 Kasparovs per second. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 08/05/21 12:23:34 PM #38:	I mean like is this guarantee magical and inviolable or something because every time something like this happens it's usually fast followed by a genocide. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:956801462] in Limited Po... [t:79599702]...</cite> <quote>I mean like is this guarantee magical and inviolable or something because every time something like this happens it's usually fast followed by a genocide. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Atralis 08/05/21 12:27:57 PM #39:	Shablagoo posted... You realize none of this jives with Marxism, right? Yes I would rather have that stuff than be homeless and starving. However, in a communist system, nothing says that having that stuff is the limit of existence. You can have the luxuries you want to have. You can have the luxuries the state deems are appropriate. The 19 year old laundry specialist with 2 kids that has a house, food, and healthcare provided for themselves and their family by the Army is getting a great deal. But flip side of that are the people doing vastly more skilled jobs than laundry specialist that are living in a tiny barracks room with no kitchen and a roommate. If you are a below average person with above average needs then communism is the system for you. <cite>Atralis posted [p:956801585] in Limited Po... [t:79599702]...</cite> <quote>Shablagoo posted... </cite> <quote>You realize none of this jives with Marxism, right? Yes I would rather have that stuff than be homeless and starving. However, in a communist system, nothing says that having that stuff is the limit of existence. You can have the luxuries you want to have.</quote> You can have the luxuries the state deems are appropriate. The 19 year old laundry specialist with 2 kids that has a house, food, and healthcare provided for themselves and their family by the Army is getting a great deal. But flip side of that are the people doing vastly more skilled jobs than laundry specialist that are living in a tiny barracks room with no kitchen and a roommate. If you are a below average person with above average needs then communism is the system for you. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 08/05/21 12:34:17 PM #40:	What is the point of having things without having freedom? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:956801735] in Limited Po... [t:79599702]...</cite> <quote>What is the point of having things without having freedom? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RiKuToTheMiGhtY 08/05/21 12:37:30 PM #41:	Questionmarktarius posted... I believe these may be yours... That is what came to mind when I saw the first post. --- doa-plus.com - We Press Forward. . . By Pressing Back. <cite>RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted [p:956801829] in Limited Po... [t:79599702]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>I believe these may be yours... </quote>That is what came to mind when I saw the first post. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackOmnimon 08/05/21 12:48:30 PM #42:	hockeybub89 posted... What is the point of having things without having freedom? Does food taste worse when you can't vote? <cite>BlackOmnimon posted [p:956802149] in Limited Po... [t:79599702]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>What is the point of having things without having freedom?</quote> Does food taste worse when you can't vote? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackOmnimon 08/05/21 12:48:54 PM #43:	Glad to see 30% of CE have their priorities straight :) <cite>BlackOmnimon posted [p:956802160] in Limited Po... [t:79599702]...</cite> <quote>Glad to see 30% of CE have their priorities straight :) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RiKuToTheMiGhtY 08/05/21 12:49:40 PM #44:	Do you want to be a slave topic creator because that is what your proposing. --- doa-plus.com - We Press Forward. . . By Pressing Back. <cite>RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted [p:956802178] in Limited Po... [t:79599702]...</cite> <quote>Do you want to be a slave topic creator because that is what your proposing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackOmnimon 08/05/21 12:53:42 PM #45:	RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted... Do you want to be a slave topic creator because that is what your proposing. No, I'd rather have both political freedoms AND guaranteed basic needs. I do think the latter is just more important. And this is just a social experiment. <cite>BlackOmnimon posted [p:956802305] in Limited Po... [t:79599702]...</cite> <quote>RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted... </cite> <quote>Do you want to be a slave topic creator because that is what your proposing.</quote> No, I'd rather have both political freedoms AND guaranteed basic needs. I do think the latter is just more important. And this is just a social experiment. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RiKuToTheMiGhtY 08/05/21 1:00:36 PM #46:	No its slavery with a gentle slave master because not having the freedoms like voting, freedom of speech, and being able to speak out against things that you do not like or find unfair is slavery. What if you hate the job ?, what if you desire a better house due to your family needs ?, there is a whole can of worms here and then some. --- doa-plus.com - We Press Forward. . . By Pressing Back. <cite>RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted [p:956802533] in Limited Po... [t:79599702]...</cite> <quote>No its slavery with a gentle slave master because not having the freedoms like voting, freedom of speech, and being able to speak out against things that you do not like or find unfair is slavery. What if you hate the job ?, what if you desire a better house due to your family needs ?, there is a whole can of worms here and then some. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackOmnimon 08/05/21 1:14:58 PM #47:	RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted... No its slavery with a gentle slave master because not having the freedoms like voting, freedom of speech, and being able to speak out against things that you do not like or find unfair is slavery. What if you hate the job ?, what if you desire a better house due to your family needs ?, there is a whole can of worms here and then some. If you hate your job you can switch jobs, and you'll be guaranteed one. If your family NEEDS a better house, you get it. <cite>BlackOmnimon posted [p:956803013] in Limited Po... [t:79599702]...</cite> <quote>RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted... </cite> <quote>No its slavery with a gentle slave master because not having the freedoms like voting, freedom of speech, and being able to speak out against things that you do not like or find unfair is slavery. What if you hate the job ?, what if you desire a better house due to your family needs ?, there is a whole can of worms here and then some.</quote> If you hate your job you can switch jobs, and you'll be guaranteed one. If your family NEEDS a better house, you get it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
garan 08/05/21 3:17:09 PM #48:	Our political freedoms are mostly a myth anyway, the establishment doesn't give a fuck about any of us and they will continue to keep power and do whatever they want, so give me a better life please. <cite>garan posted [p:956806761] in Limited Po... [t:79599702]...</cite> <quote>Our political freedoms are mostly a myth anyway, the establishment doesn't give a fuck about any of us and they will continue to keep power and do whatever they want, so give me a better life please.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackOmnimon 08/05/21 6:44:42 PM #49:	garan posted... Our political freedoms are mostly a myth anyway, the establishment doesn't give a fuck about any of us and they will continue to keep power and do whatever they want, so give me a better life please. Exactly. --- . <cite>BlackOmnimon posted [p:956812886] in Limited Po... [t:79599702]...</cite> <quote>garan posted... </cite> <quote>Our political freedoms are mostly a myth anyway, the establishment doesn't give a fuck about any of us and they will continue to keep power and do whatever they want, so give me a better life please.</quote> Exactly. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ilishe 08/06/21 3:35:11 AM #50:	BlackOmnimon posted... I don't like that mentality that you exist only to make your "betters" more money. To be just another cog in the machine. I think people have a right to exist, regardless of wether their existence is "productive" or not. How is this take different from "You exist solely to serve the economy and the free market, and continue to exist at its discretion". Your statement is pure projection. Society needs every able to individual to work for the betterment of society. Do you want to be a net negative contributor to society? Why do you want to be worse than useless? --- ~Phoenix Nine~ ~Victory needs no explanation; defeat allows none.~ <cite>Ilishe posted [p:956824770] in Limited Po... [t:79599702]...</cite> <quote>BlackOmnimon posted... </cite> <quote>I don't like that mentality that you exist only to make your "betters" more money. To be just another cog in the machine. I think people have a right to exist, regardless of wether their existence is "productive" or not. How is this take different from "You exist solely to serve the economy and the free market, and continue to exist at its discretion". Your statement is pure projection.</quote> Society needs every able to individual to work for the betterment of society. Do you want to be a net negative contributor to society? Why do you want to be worse than useless? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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