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Are you more liberal? More conservative? What about your stance on specific issues?

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Still don't give a shit about it
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Angrier.

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I went from being a libertarian-ish centrist to a leftist socialist

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AldousIsDead posted...

Angrier.

more cynical too.

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10 years ago I was a Jon Stewart lib. Glad that's changed.

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Probably the same, but now a days I cant even look in the rights direction without being repulsed.

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I'm more liberal, but not by much.
Compared to 15 years ago, a lot more liberal.

I've come to the conclusion that, seeing as both parties have the same financial backers, American politics is pretty much a stage show and the American public has very little to do with the actual outcome.

They want the number of actual voters to be as close to 50/50 as possible so that, no matter who the electoral college chooses, it comes across like a bad call rather than a rigged election. The Democrats win the popular vote each time, yet Republicans have a near 50/50 success rate. There's no amount of "well, actually, it's very complicated" to justify that.

I think Donald Trump bought his way into the presidency before he was ever officially nominated. Joe Biden was just America's owners having buyer's remorse. Of course, we'll find out in a few years. If Trump becomes president again, I'm wrong. I'm not sure what I should hope for: a rigged political system or one in which bigotry and xenophobia flourish.

The same.

Didnt base my life around em then, dont base my life around em now.

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I sometimes FEEL like my change is more drastic than what it actually was.

But I really just went Republican leaning center to Democrat leaning center.

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AldousIsDead posted...

Angrier.

Probably this. Im not an overallangry person. But I put politics to way too much stuff lately. Because shit makes me mad. It's not even me trying to push my views on others, it's me just venting all the stuff I absorb in-between seeing others. I'm glad Im funny, so I can at least balance it out and not just be the crazy ranting uncle.

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FortuneCookie posted...

I'm more liberal, but not by much.
Compared to 15 years ago, a lot more liberal.

I've come to the conclusion that, seeing as both parties have the same financial backers, American politics is pretty much a stage show and the American public has very little to do with the actual outcome.

They want the number of actual voters to be as close to 50/50 as possible so that, no matter who the electoral college chooses, it comes across like a bad call rather than a rigged election. The Democrats win the popular vote each time, yet Republicans have a near 50/50 success rate. There's no amount of "well, actually, it's very complicated" to justify that.

I think Donald Trump bought his way into the presidency before he was ever officially nominated. Joe Biden was just America's owners having buyer's remorse. Of course, we'll find out in a few years. If Trump becomes president again, I'm wrong. I'm not sure what I should hope for: a rigged political system or one in which bigotry and xenophobia flourish.

My sentiments exactly. It's all a sham.

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Definitely more liberal

10 years ago I was Christian, homophobic and republican

99% sure that college is what gave me a complete 180

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Pretty much the same, I still think its all a puppet show and there is only one party (The US Gov) and we are merely led to believe that our vote changes anything. Trump showed me that it does matter who you vote for, but only because of the POTUS ability to rile up stupid people that are blindly patriotic.

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It has been over 160 years since another party got in office. There is no such thing as coincidences, especially ones that last over a century and a half. Its all rigged.

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not much. I just pay more attention to it now.

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FortuneCookie posted...

I'm more liberal, but not by much.
Compared to 15 years ago, a lot more liberal.

I've come to the conclusion that, seeing as both parties have the same financial backers, American politics is pretty much a stage show and the American public has very little to do with the actual outcome.

They want the number of actual voters to be as close to 50/50 as possible so that, no matter who the electoral college chooses, it comes across like a bad call rather than a rigged election. The Democrats win the popular vote each time, yet Republicans have a near 50/50 success rate. There's no amount of "well, actually, it's very complicated" to justify that.

I think Donald Trump bought his way into the presidency before he was ever officially nominated. Joe Biden was just America's owners having buyer's remorse. Of course, we'll find out in a few years. If Trump becomes president again, I'm wrong. I'm not sure what I should hope for: a rigged political system or one in which bigotry and xenophobia flourish.

Nail on the freaking head.


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I grew up and started caring about others, so I've moved significantly left.

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I was always very left wing, but the past ten years of experiences and learning have intensified that beyond belief, and I view the very notion of compromise with disdain.

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Mostly just a bit more indifferent, I guess.

20 Years ago - Moderate Liberal
15 Years ago - Liberal
10 Years ago - Liberal
Now - Socialist

FortuneCookie posted...

I've come to the conclusion that, seeing as both parties have the same financial backers, American politics is pretty much a stage show and the American public has very little to do with the actual outcome.

And this is what pushed me hard left. The system is rigged to cater to the rich, full stop. When it comes to choosing between D or R it normally boils down to: "Which decision will make the lives of minorities and LGBTQ members fractionally better?" It's clearly D, but when it comes to systemic issues as a whole and wealth inequality, D & R play for the same team. I've become completely disillusioned with the whole system.

Edit: Basically what I'm asking is, is getting Juneteenth as a holiday an acceptable payoff for not getting a minimum wage hike, health care, police reform, climate reform, and free college? Because that's what you get with Democrats. You'll get holidays, you'll get parades, you'll even get some sound bites in support for your cause, but actual action? No. That just simply "can't" be done, or so we're told. Don't get me wrong, you'll get nothing with Republicans and I'm certainly not advocating that anyone vote for them, but I'm asking if your ('your' being general and not directed to the quoted poster) vote for D is worth what you're getting in return?

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Then, height of shitlib. Now I'm very staunchly leftist, although I've never settled on any particular ideology.

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More liberal. A lot of black and LGBT issues I initially believed to be unwarranted and conflated aren't at all what I originally perceived

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Went from libertarian to liberal. The main holdout from my stances of 10 years ago is that Im still skeptical about the efficacy of gun control laws for the US, though Im definitely not as hardline as I used to be.

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I went from Liberal to progressive, partly due to conversations I've had here.

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Same stuff but more confident in my beliefs.

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rexcrk posted...

The same.

Didnt base my life around em then, dont base my life around em now.

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MarthGoomba posted...

Still don't give a shit about it

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More right wing, still left wing, don't give as much of a shit, it's all crap

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I was barely an adult so I was liberal because I was brainwashed by my peers and since I was socially liberal. Now I'm centrist.

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Grew up in a really conservative family and community and went to a private school that was also conservative, and... I wasn't a rebel, lol. So ten years ago I was well into adulthood but while my stance had softened a bit on some social issues I was still a very loyal republican.

I liked Mittens a lot, but then Trump just imploded my political views... because it wasn't just him, it was 90% of republicans--both elected officials as well as just people I know in regular life--absolutely abandoned all the principles they used to claim they stood for.

So while I wouldn't really consider myself liberal, I did vote for Biden (after a throwaway third party vote in 2016 because obviously Hillary was going to in in a landslide >_>), and I am much more open to a fair bit of liberal views and policies now, and less so to a lot on the right--but yeah, I'm not at home in either party. So I went from fairly conservative to straddling the fence I guess.

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MarthGoomba posted...

Still don't give a shit about it

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Ive always been a, to each their own type, but now I pay more attention so that my vote at least backs that up as best it might.

I am also WAY more discouraged than Ive ever been with society at large.

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We don't get to really not give a shit. Politics are responsible for every aspect of your life outside of your home. Not caring just gives everyone else an opportunity to shape the world at their whims.

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I want to be president now.

Mostly so I can try and use a super soaker to put out this dumpster fire.

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Im still the same libertarian socialist I was back then. I dont think my views have changed significantly.

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10 years ago I was in high school, so probably similar, though I didn't actually have much idea of what I was talking about and just kind of more of a dick about it.

Towards the end of high school I started getting kind of neckbeard-y though...

I would say I'm more liberal now. I used to actually consider voting for Republicans, but there's no way in hell I would do that today. They're pretty much using a new form of the southern strategy to whitewash slavery, jim crow, etc., and they've pretty much given control of the party to Donald Trump of all people.

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Much more smarter. And I have not finished my education yet still.

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I was a junior in HS 10 years ago. Fairly conservative and homophobic if I remember correctly.

I'm a leftist now. If I met myself from back then I'd probably have a talk with them about how problematic they are.

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Still just as liberal as I always was, but I now completely understand why liberals always lose elections so my activism has now been reduced to the voting booth only.


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I cant think of anything substantial thats changed, I just am much more familiar with the nomenclature.

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less neoliberal, more cynical about big government, big capital, people in general

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I didn't give a shit.