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Slayerblade11 07/28/21 9:42:28 PM #1:	Only 1 resistance and 4 weaknesses to the most common attacking types Ice type is geared for offense but the majority of ice types are slow as fuck and geared for defense Water types do it better. All Water types can learn ice type moves but dont carry the baggage of the awful defensive typing so no point in being ice outside of stab which isn't worth the tradeoff of all the common weaknesses <cite>Slayerblade11 posted [p:956560544] in Ice is suc... [t:79587923]...</cite> <quote>Only 1 resistance and 4 weaknesses to the most common attacking types Ice type is geared for offense but the majority of ice types are slow as fuck and geared for defense Water types do it better. All Water types can learn ice type moves but dont carry the baggage of the awful defensive typing so no point in being ice outside of stab which isn't worth the tradeoff of all the common weaknesses </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Irony 07/28/21 9:46:11 PM #3:	Better than grass/bug --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. <cite>Irony posted [p:956560693] in Ice is suc... [t:79587923]...</cite> <quote>Better than grass/bug </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 07/28/21 9:46:44 PM #4:	Slayerblade11 posted... Only 1 resistance and 4 weaknesses to the most common attacking types Ice type is geared for offense but the majority of ice types are slow as fuck and geared for defense Water types do it better. All Water types can learn ice type moves but dont carry the baggage of the awful defensive typing so no point in being ice outside of stab which isn't worth the tradeoff of all the common weaknesses Amaura: hold my beer --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:956560712] in Ice is suc... [t:79587923]...</cite> <quote>Slayerblade11 posted... </cite> <quote>Only 1 resistance and 4 weaknesses to the most common attacking types Ice type is geared for offense but the majority of ice types are slow as fuck and geared for defense Water types do it better. All Water types can learn ice type moves but dont carry the baggage of the awful defensive typing so no point in being ice outside of stab which isn't worth the tradeoff of all the common weaknesses</quote> Amaura: hold my beer </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 07/28/21 9:48:34 PM #5:	As a Dragon trainer, Ice really should resist Dragon at least. --- I often wonder if we are growing as a people... or in fact, regressing. <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:956560785] in Ice is suc... [t:79587923]...</cite> <quote>As a Dragon trainer, Ice really should resist Dragon at least. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AdrianBeterson 07/28/21 9:49:13 PM #6:	Ice should be super effective against water. --- https://imgur.com/EvtcK3P <cite>AdrianBeterson posted [p:956560809] in Ice is suc... [t:79587923]...</cite> <quote>Ice should be super effective against water. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nuclearratchet 07/28/21 9:49:49 PM #7:	I don't know the addition of Heavy Duty Boots and Freeze Dry did make Ice types more usable. Kyurem and Weavile are top OU. Water types may learn Ice moves but they usually don't have the stats to be a hard hitter like Weavile and Kyurem or others like Mamoswine and Cloyster. --- Pro Trans Rights! MAGA! a.c.a.b. Qanon. LGBTQ him/his Fund the police. <cite>nuclearratchet posted [p:956560828] in Ice is suc... [t:79587923]...</cite> <quote>I don't know the addition of Heavy Duty Boots and Freeze Dry did make Ice types more usable. Kyurem and Weavile are top OU. Water types may learn Ice moves but they usually don't have the stats to be a hard hitter like Weavile and Kyurem or others like Mamoswine and Cloyster. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lairen 07/28/21 9:50:53 PM #8:	AdrianBeterson posted... Ice should be super effective against water. Actually.....yeah. --- When it rains, it pours. <cite>Lairen posted [p:956560873] in Ice is suc... [t:79587923]...</cite> <quote>AdrianBeterson posted... </cite> <quote>Ice should be super effective against water.</quote> Actually.....yeah. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 07/28/21 9:52:15 PM #9:	AdrianBeterson posted... Ice should be super effective against water. Nah. Should be: Offense: Grass x2 Bug x2 Dragon x2 Fire 1/2 Water 1/2 Ice 0 Defense: Dragon 0 Ice 0 Fire x2 Poison x2 Electric 1/2 --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:956560914] in Ice is suc... [t:79587923]...</cite> <quote>AdrianBeterson posted... </cite> <quote>Ice should be super effective against water.</quote>Nah. Should be: Offense: Grass x2 Bug x2 Dragon x2 Fire 1/2 Water 1/2 Ice 0 Defense: Dragon 0 Ice 0 Fire x2 Poison x2 Electric 1/2 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nuclearratchet 07/28/21 9:53:02 PM #10:	AdrianBeterson posted... Ice should be super effective against water. Lairen posted... Actually.....yeah. We got Freeze Dry. --- Pro Trans Rights! MAGA! a.c.a.b. Qanon. LGBTQ him/his Fund the police. <cite>nuclearratchet posted [p:956560936] in Ice is suc... [t:79587923]...</cite> <quote>AdrianBeterson posted... </cite> <quote>Ice should be super effective against water.</quote> Lairen posted... </cite> <quote>Actually.....yeah.</quote>We got Freeze Dry. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 07/28/21 9:53:08 PM #11:	It's not just the typing matchups but there's not many ice types that are actually GOOD Poison might be worse --- https://imgur.com/u5kY6Yt https://imgur.com/V6HBhkR <cite>Doe posted [p:956560941] in Ice is suc... [t:79587923]...</cite> <quote>It's not just the typing matchups but there's not many ice types that are actually GOOD Poison might be worse </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cemith 07/28/21 9:53:36 PM #12:	Slayerblade11 posted... Only 1 resistance and 4 weaknesses to the most common attacking types Ice type is geared for offense but the majority of ice types are slow as fuck and geared for defense Water types do it better. All Water types can learn ice type moves but dont carry the baggage of the awful defensive typing so no point in being ice outside of stab which isn't worth the tradeoff of all the common weaknesses Water types are better all around, I agree, but there's only like 4 defensive ice types, Cryogonal, Avalugg, Articuno, and Walrein. Argument could be made for Dewgong but it's not that good... Meanwhile the offensive Pokemon are loaded, Jynx, Cloyster, Kyurem, Weavile, Beartic, Froslass, and probably Mamoswine. Saying there's more defensive ices is just wrong, and the offensive ice types are so powerful. --- CE's resident Smash Player \|\| https://i.ibb.co/2vRbyC0/Rosa-6.png "Friends don't let friends watch The Big Bang Theory" - mogar002 <cite>Cemith posted [p:956560956] in Ice is suc... [t:79587923]...</cite> <quote>Slayerblade11 posted... </cite> <quote>Only 1 resistance and 4 weaknesses to the most common attacking types Ice type is geared for offense but the majority of ice types are slow as fuck and geared for defense Water types do it better. All Water types can learn ice type moves but dont carry the baggage of the awful defensive typing so no point in being ice outside of stab which isn't worth the tradeoff of all the common weaknesses</quote> Water types are better all around, I agree, but there's only like 4 defensive ice types, Cryogonal, Avalugg, Articuno, and Walrein. Argument could be made for Dewgong but it's not that good... Meanwhile the offensive Pokemon are loaded, Jynx, Cloyster, Kyurem, Weavile, Beartic, Froslass, and probably Mamoswine. Saying there's more defensive ices is just wrong, and the offensive ice types are so powerful. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slayerblade11 07/28/21 9:53:57 PM #13:	AdrianBeterson posted... Ice should be super effective against water. ice types moves become better but ice type pokemon are still bad <cite>Slayerblade11 posted [p:956560980] in Ice is suc... [t:79587923]...</cite> <quote>AdrianBeterson posted... </cite> <quote>Ice should be super effective against water.</quote> ice types moves become better but ice type pokemon are still bad </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRadiant 07/28/21 9:54:05 PM #14:	Ice has Mr. Rime and that's all it needs --- She/her <cite>TheRadiant posted [p:956560987] in Ice is suc... [t:79587923]...</cite> <quote>Ice has Mr. Rime and that's all it needs </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
discodancer77 07/28/21 9:57:59 PM #15:	Played a rom hack where its weakness to fighting was turned into a resistance, and was super effective against fighting. It really grew on me. I also would want poison to be SE against water --- Patient Gamer <cite>discodancer77 posted [p:956561138] in Ice is suc... [t:79587923]...</cite> <quote>Played a rom hack where its weakness to fighting was turned into a resistance, and was super effective against fighting. It really grew on me. I also would want poison to be SE against water </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
newhorrorguy 07/28/21 9:59:19 PM #16:	discodancer77 posted... Played a rom hack where its weakness to fighting was turned into a resistance, and was super effective against fighting. It really grew on me. I also would want poison to be SE against water None of that makes any sense. Poison should be SE towards fighting, though. --- Joyrock/octillIery/DSFlashlight <cite>newhorrorguy posted [p:956561187] in Ice is suc... [t:79587923]...</cite> <quote>discodancer77 posted... </cite> <quote>Played a rom hack where its weakness to fighting was turned into a resistance, and was super effective against fighting. It really grew on me. I also would want poison to be SE against water</quote>None of that makes any sense. Poison should be SE towards fighting, though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AdrianBeterson 07/28/21 10:01:30 PM #17:	Slayerblade11 posted... ice types moves become better but ice type pokemon are still bad Ice types should resist water too. --- https://imgur.com/EvtcK3P <cite>AdrianBeterson posted [p:956561256] in Ice is suc... [t:79587923]...</cite> <quote>Slayerblade11 posted... </cite> <quote>ice types moves become better but ice type pokemon are still bad</quote>Ice types should resist water too. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alteres 07/28/21 10:04:13 PM #18:	AdrianBeterson posted... Ice types should resist water too. Actually, water is very effective against ice. --- ........the ghost in the machine... IGN: Fox, FC: 5344-2646-0982 <cite>Alteres posted [p:956561361] in Ice is suc... [t:79587923]...</cite> <quote>AdrianBeterson posted... </cite> <quote>Ice types should resist water too.</quote>Actually, water is very effective against ice. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AdrianBeterson 07/28/21 10:07:54 PM #20:	Alteres posted... Actually, water is very effective against ice. Depends on the temperature. Theres enough of a leeway for them to make it work to give Ice types a buff. Thats the reason why Freeze Dry exists. --- https://imgur.com/EvtcK3P <cite>AdrianBeterson posted [p:956561489] in Ice is suc... [t:79587923]...</cite> <quote>Alteres posted... </cite> <quote>Actually, water is very effective against ice.</quote>Depends on the temperature. Theres enough of a leeway for them to make it work to give Ice types a buff. Thats the reason why Freeze Dry exists. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HylianFox 07/28/21 10:22:58 PM #21:	discodancer77 posted... Played a rom hack where its weakness to fighting was turned into a resistance, and was super effective against fighting. It really grew on me. I also would want poison to be SE against water Ice being weak to Fighting makes sense due to breaking ice being a standard martial arts trick. --- This is my signature until I can think of a better one. <cite>HylianFox posted [p:956561950] in Ice is suc... [t:79587923]...</cite> <quote>discodancer77 posted... </cite> <quote>Played a rom hack where its weakness to fighting was turned into a resistance, and was super effective against fighting. It really grew on me. I also would want poison to be SE against water</quote> Ice being weak to Fighting makes sense due to breaking ice being a standard martial arts trick. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zanzenburger 07/28/21 10:24:57 PM #22:	I love my Alolan Sandslash. --- Congratulations! Your post was deemed response-worthy. <cite>Zanzenburger posted [p:956562015] in Ice is suc... [t:79587923]...</cite> <quote>I love my Alolan Sandslash. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Payzmaykr 07/28/21 10:27:10 PM #23:	Oh, yeah. I just put Ice moves on other mon. I really like Ice attacks, but theyre weak to too many elements. --- So long, Thanks for all the fish! <cite>Payzmaykr posted [p:956562075] in Ice is suc... [t:79587923]...</cite> <quote>Oh, yeah. I just put Ice moves on other mon. I really like Ice attacks, but theyre weak to too many elements. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Omnislasher 07/28/21 10:27:39 PM #24:	i'm pretty sure articuno is very strong guys <cite>Omnislasher posted [p:956562090] in Ice is suc... [t:79587923]...</cite> <quote>i'm pretty sure articuno is very strong guys </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kirbymuncher 07/29/21 3:36:38 PM #26:	Cemith posted... eanwhile the offensive Pokemon are loaded, Jynx, Cloyster, I know this is correct categorization but it's hilarious to me that a giant clam pokemon with its main stat being defense is clasified as an offensive icetype --- THIS IS WHAT I HATE A BOUT EVREY WEBSITE!! THERES SO MUCH PEOPLE READING AND POSTING STUIPED STUFF <cite>kirbymuncher posted [p:956583105] in Ice is suc... [t:79587923]...</cite> <quote>Cemith posted... </cite> <quote>eanwhile the offensive Pokemon are loaded, Jynx, Cloyster,</quote> I know this is correct categorization but it's hilarious to me that a giant clam pokemon with its main stat being defense is clasified as an offensive icetype </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ElatedVenusaur 07/29/21 3:40:42 PM #27:	Ice resists Ice. Ice takes 2x damage from Rock, Fighting, Fire, and Steel(which are all great offensive typings which are commonly packed by sweepers of all kinds). Ice does 2x damage to Grass(join the party lol), Ground, Flying, and Dragon(the last two are really consequential, to be fair). Some one mentioned Ice resisting Electric, and that...would be really good, actually. It would be a major boon to Water/Ice 'mons in particular, and Electric won't really notice. --- She/her <cite>ElatedVenusaur posted [p:956583226] in Ice is suc... [t:79587923]...</cite> <quote>Ice resists Ice. Ice takes 2x damage from Rock, Fighting, Fire, and Steel(which are all great offensive typings which are commonly packed by sweepers of all kinds). Ice does 2x damage to Grass(join the party lol), Ground, Flying, and Dragon(the last two are really consequential, to be fair). Some one mentioned Ice resisting Electric, and that...would be really good, actually. It would be a major boon to Water/Ice 'mons in particular, and Electric won't really notice. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kingdrake2 07/29/21 3:44:34 PM #28:	kirbymuncher posted... giant clam pokemon with its main stat being defense is clasified as an offensive icetype shell smash + white herb + skill link = destructive pokemon. hit it x2 if lucky. most pokemon go down in 1 round of attacks. --- Explorers In The Further Regions Of Experience, demons to some, Angels To Others: Pinhead <cite>kingdrake2 posted [p:956583335] in Ice is suc... [t:79587923]...</cite> <quote>kirbymuncher posted...</cite> <quote>giant clam pokemon with its main stat being defense is clasified as an offensive icetype</quote> shell smash + white herb + skill link = destructive pokemon. hit it x2 if lucky. most pokemon go down in 1 round of attacks.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mist_Turnips 07/29/21 4:03:29 PM #30:	I'm so glad I play pokemon single player and stop after beating the story/catching an arbitrary amount. This topic has way too much meta shit to memorize. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.2 <cite>Mist_Turnips posted [p:956583865] in Ice is suc... [t:79587923]...</cite> <quote>I'm so glad I play pokemon single player and stop after beating the story/catching an arbitrary amount. This topic has way too much meta shit to memorize.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jeff AKA Snoopy 07/29/21 4:08:38 PM #31:	Ice has gotten better over the years but still is not gonna be dominant. There are so many better Fairy types to check Dragon and so many better Pokemon can learn Ice Beam anyways. Weavile is great for its dual typing. Were it straight Ice it wouldn't see as much play. --- https://imgur.com/GWG5c3r <cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted [p:956584021] in Ice is suc... [t:79587923]...</cite> <quote>Ice has gotten better over the years but still is not gonna be dominant. There are so many better Fairy types to check Dragon and so many better Pokemon can learn Ice Beam anyways. Weavile is great for its dual typing. Were it straight Ice it wouldn't see as much play. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ryuko_Chan 07/29/21 4:10:10 PM #32:	SerperiorThanU posted... Almost purely because of Skill Link and Shell Smash tbf. It used to be defensive prior to that and wasn't nearly as good. Also, there's way more defensive ice types if we're purely looking at stats (bulky stats and slow speed). Arctovish, Aurorus, Glastrier/Calyrex-Ice, Lapras, Regice, Rotom-Freeze, Sandslash-A, Vanilluxe, and Crabominable. Beartic would also be on the defensive tanky side statwise. Most of them do still tend to be offensive in practice since Ice type is just inherently an offensive typing. Although ironically, Froslass stat-wise leads to offensiveness but she's used most often as a suicide support lead. imo the best way to use froslass is as a weird combination of a wallbreaker and a suicide support lead. poltergeist/triple axel/trick/spikes with a choice band. --- - silverhyruler post <cite>Ryuko_Chan posted [p:956584059] in Ice is suc... [t:79587923]...</cite> <quote>SerperiorThanU posted... </cite> <quote>Almost purely because of Skill Link and Shell Smash tbf. It used to be defensive prior to that and wasn't nearly as good. Also, there's way more defensive ice types if we're purely looking at stats (bulky stats and slow speed). Arctovish, Aurorus, Glastrier/Calyrex-Ice, Lapras, Regice, Rotom-Freeze, Sandslash-A, Vanilluxe, and Crabominable. Beartic would also be on the defensive tanky side statwise. Most of them do still tend to be offensive in practice since Ice type is just inherently an offensive typing. Although ironically, Froslass stat-wise leads to offensiveness but she's used most often as a suicide support lead.</quote>imo the best way to use froslass is as a weird combination of a wallbreaker and a suicide support lead. poltergeist/triple axel/trick/spikes with a choice band. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
krazychao5 07/29/21 4:11:13 PM #33:	Mist_Turnips posted... I'm so glad I play pokemon single player and stop after beating the story/catching an arbitrary amount. This topic has way too much meta shit to memorize. lol, yeah. and then add breeding, IV, EV, etc --- https://supermariomakerbookmark.nintendo.net/profile/bigllama?type=posted <cite>krazychao5 posted [p:956584094] in Ice is suc... [t:79587923]...</cite> <quote>Mist_Turnips posted... </cite> <quote>I'm so glad I play pokemon single player and stop after beating the story/catching an arbitrary amount. This topic has way too much meta shit to memorize.</quote>lol, yeah. and then add breeding, IV, EV, etc </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LostForest 07/29/21 4:26:16 PM #34:	Tyranthraxus posted... Nah. Should be: Offense: Grass x2 Bug x2 Dragon x2 Fire 1/2 Water 1/2 Ice 0 Defense: Dragon 0 Ice 0 Fire x2 Poison x2 Electric 1/2 I agree with most of this, but I would say thematically speaking, Steel absolutely should be SE against Ice. I always thought Water should be NVE against Ice too since, outside of hot water (i.e. Scald), most water will freeze onto a cold/icy surface. --- http://poorcouplesfoodguide.com Agender, curry fan, Top 10 lister, indie dev, gym hitter, musician, et al. <cite>LostForest posted [p:956584520] in Ice is suc... [t:79587923]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite> <quote>Nah. Should be: Offense: Grass x2 Bug x2 Dragon x2 Fire 1/2 Water 1/2 Ice 0 Defense: Dragon 0 Ice 0 Fire x2 Poison x2 Electric 1/2</quote> I agree with most of this, but I would say thematically speaking, Steel absolutely should be SE against Ice. I always thought Water should be NVE against Ice too since, outside of hot water (i.e. Scald), most water will freeze onto a cold/icy surface. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DepreceV2 07/29/21 4:26:50 PM #35:	Its good for offense but shit for defense --- Reminder: On March 2nd, 2021, Texas removed mask mandates and allowed 100% capacity for businesses. <cite>DepreceV2 posted [p:956584536] in Ice is suc... [t:79587923]...</cite> <quote>Its good for offense but shit for defense </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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