Current Events > CDC confirms vaccinated people can infect others easily

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Will_VIIII posted...

You're probably a liar, I'll say that.

I don't doubt that there are legitimate instances where someone cannot wear a mask but these are statistical outliers.

Your initial stance about how it needs to be a choice for everyone regardless of spread indicates how uninformed you are.

If you truly cannot wear a mask, you'd utilize curb side, delivery, etc for essential goods because you'd need to take extra precautions.

So yeah, liar.

Now they're going to complain to you how you need to show them respect in spite of their tired-ass misinformation. They might even try to deflect and say you're picking on them over their grammar.

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He's also trying to equate mask mandates to second hand smoke which is simply ridiculous

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Will_VIIII posted...

He's also trying to equate mask mandates to second hand smoke which is simply ridiculous

That guy is a troll and does this in every covid thread.

Don't feed him.

WingsOfGood posted...

Well...actually... vaccines can increase rate of mutations.
This is science but not science they want you to know..(cause anti-vaxxers are insane)

https://www.npr.org/2021/02/09/965703047/vaccines-could-drive-the-evolution-of-more-covid-19-mutants

Vaccines do one thing very good, prevent you from dying, reduce hospitalization.

They are not what they have been made out to be, "the end of covid forever".
I mean, this should have been obvious since flu shots haven't eradicated the flu.

I guess people thought vaccines ended polio so they will covid.

Well hopefully this COVID stuff ends soon it is messing with my gains in the stock market.

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WingsOfGood posted...

That guy is a troll and does this in every covid thread.

Don't feed him.

He's since been tagged appropriately

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Graycap posted...

This is why various morons should've never said it's fine to go unmasked now.

And when kases kontinue to spike, the unvaccinated will be the sole scapegoat while said morons remain perfectly unaccountable.

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WingsOfGood posted...

Hope you don't live to regret this choice based on anti-science and selfishness.

Calling a dude who got the vaccine anti-science? This is quite the oxymoron.

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Sad_Face posted...

Calling a dude who got the vaccine anti-science? This is quite the oxymoron.

Incorrect. If you refuse to wear a mask when told that you can still get infected and infect others, even become impaired via infection, then you are indeed anti-science.

BlueTigerLion posted...

Well hopefully this COVID stuff ends soon it is messing with my gains in the stock market.

I mean....

Well, you can do some crypto

you guys understand this is terrible fuckin news right?

ROOTFayth posted...

you guys understand this is terrible fuckin news right?

I believe that is the consensus, yes.

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ROOTFayth posted...

you guys understand this is terrible fuckin news right?

Yes. But it is the truth.

Whether it is bad or good news doesn't mean we should ignore it.

Covid is never going to go away. I'll never forgive people who made it so political and refused to take proper health precautions.

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BlueTigerLion posted...

Well hopefully this COVID stuff ends soon

not through this year. maybe next year. possibly the year after that.
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you guys know covid is endemic and will never go away right?

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ROOTFayth posted...

you guys understand this is terrible fuckin news right?

Yes, it is emphatically terrible news. Many of us have seen it coming for months though, so it's just more depressing than shocking.

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Well that's why I only hang out around vacced people. Im sorry but if you haven't got the vaccine yet than I don't really have any sympathy for your health at this point.

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Legato-and-Vash posted...

Covid is never going to go away. I'll never forgive people who made it so political and refused to take proper health precautions.

We had a terrible leader during the start who had a terrible ignorant attitude toward it, and said leader also has/had a weirdly devoted huge cult following who emulate, believe and defend everything he says. It was the perfect storm.

Trump is exactly who we did not need during this pandemic. Trumpers may have still had a shitty attitude toward it even without him, but he definitely made their behavior 100x worse.

Letron_James posted...

Well that's why I only hang out around vacced people. Im sorry but if you haven't got the vaccine yet than I don't really have any sympathy for your health at this point.

???
You only hang around vaccinated people because they are just as likely to infect you with delta as the unvaccinated?

What

@Letron_James

ThunderTrain posted...

Thank you anti-vaxxers for continuing Covid!

Don't worry, they're getting very sick or dying off in numbers. Republicans are making sure their base keeps dying off for whatever reasons we don't know.

worse part is at least over here in Canada we just don't have enough money to lockdown again, we have to keep the economy going and just mask up, hopefully vaccine does prevent death because cases are going to soar once Delta hits over here

Itachi157 posted...

We had a terrible leader during the start who had a terrible ignorant attitude toward it, and said leader also has/had a weirdly devoted huge cult following who emulate, believe and defend everything he says. It was the perfect storm.

Trump is exactly who we did not need during this pandemic. Trumpers may have still had a shitty attitude toward it even without him, but he definitely made their behavior 100x worse.

Trump/US isnt the only person in the world there were other countries that had their leaders saying similar stuff like Brazil. Just look at the vaccination rates in Russia or African countries. They worse than Trump supporters.

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WingsOfGood posted...

I mean....

Well, you can do some crypto

Maybe it is time to YOLO is crypto. They dont have the Delta variant FUD I guess.

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QueenCarly posted...

I can say that your doctor with 100% certainty voted for Trump and should have their medical license revoked

I don't live in USA, so we don't get to vote for USA president.

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WingsOfGood posted...

Incorrect. If you refuse to wear a mask when told that you can still get infected and infect others, even become impaired via infection, then you are indeed anti-science.

He still took the initiative to take the vaccine when we have yet to have multiyear studies confirming no negative implications of the vaccine. Selfish for not wearing the mask, yes. But not anti-science. I don't know why you're even flinging that word around when they've made guidance statements influenced by politics as evident by BlueTigerLion's point of them not confirming that vaccinated can still transmit before now and the US government rushing out to fully open up the economy by July 4th.

Itachi157 posted...

Trump is exactly who we did not need during this pandemic. Trumpers may have still had a s***ty attitude toward it even without him, but he definitely made their behavior 100x worse.

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Will_VIIII posted...

You're probably a liar, I'll say that.

I don't doubt that there are legitimate instances where someone cannot wear a mask but these are statistical outliers.

Your initial stance about how it needs to be a choice for everyone regardless of spread indicates how uninformed you are.

If you truly cannot wear a mask, you'd utilize curb side, delivery, etc for essential goods because you'd need to take extra precautions.

So yeah, liar.

I can't believe that you would call me a liar, when you don't know me at all.

If I suffered from those side effects like wheezy, chest pain and migraine, then I am sure I am not the only one.

I have to go to my job, so staying home 24/7 is impossible. I have to make a living getting paid.


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you guys keep talking about Trump this Trump that, but the same shit is happening in every countries, people are divided, that's not just trump lol, here in the province of quebec every anti vaxxer/covid denier is blaming our prime minister for lying and wanting to control the population and some are wishing him dead and stuff

Sad_Face posted...

I don't know why you're even flinging that word around when they've made guidance statements influenced by politics as evident by BlueTigerLion's point of them not confirming that vaccinated can still transmit before now and the US government rushing out to fully open up the economy by July 4th.

Because he read this thread and article and said "fuck it, I will STILL not wear a mask now!"

the CDC has proven itself to be unreliable and politically compromised, as evidenced by their waffling last year

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Will_VIIII posted...

He's also trying to equate mask mandates to second hand smoke which is simply ridiculous

I have evidence on smoking and Covid.

https://www.covidfit.gi/ first thing it say is Stop Smoking.

https://www.gibraltar.gov.gi/press-releases/stub-it-stop-it-get-covid-fit-2922020-5836

Public Health Gibraltar is set to launch its new campaign CovidFit to ensure the community are best informed about the choices they make when isolating in their homes during these unprecedented times.

Smoke cessation will be the first topic in the series- Stub It. Stop It. Get COVID Fit.
This initiative follows on from key messages in recent statements by GHA s Medical Director Dr Krishna Rawal on the importance of stopping smoking.

Smoking tobacco causes damage to the lungs and airways; Covid-19 attacks the respiratory system placing smokers at increased risk of severe illness and death. Emerging evidence from China shows smokers with COVID-19 are 14 times more likely to develop severe respiratory disease.

A crucial message from Public Health England is that if you smoke, you are not only putting yourself at greater risk of developing severe disease from the COVID-19 virus, but those around you exposed to second hand smoke, including children, are also put at increased risk.

Furthermore, the repetitive hand to mouth movement provides an easy route of entry for the virus, putting smokers at greater risk of contracting COVID-19.

Dr Sohail Bhatti, Director of Public Health stated, If there was ever a time to give up this filthy habit, it is now. Save yourself from the misery of getting COVID-19 on top of damaged lungs. Even stopping for one week allows the remarkable healing power of lungs to recover and replenish its defences. If you find it too difficult, then use vaping. Save yourself from cancer, save yourself from bronchitis, save yourself from heart disease. Live to enjoy your grandchildren, and give yourselves the best chance of beating COVID-19.

For employers who would like to support employee efforts to quit, please contact [email protected] for a resource pack.

For more information, visit: Covidfit.gi

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-advice-for-smokers-and-vapers/covid-19-advice-for-smokers-and-vapers

COVID-19 is a disease caused by a respiratory virus, SARS-CoV-2. People who smoke generally have an increased risk of contracting respiratory infection and of more severe symptoms once infected (for the specific risk on COVID-19, see below).

Those are the hard evidence.


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Then don't smoke.

WingsOfGood posted...

Then don't smoke.

I don't smoke, but breathing other people smoke does put me at risk, as mentioned here.

A crucial message from Public Health England is that if you smoke, you are not only putting yourself at greater risk of developing severe disease from the COVID-19 virus, but those around you exposed to second hand smoke, including children, are also put at increased risk.

Like I said no rules when it comes to outdoor smoking, you can smoke anywhere except outside school.

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@masterpug53 Why do we need to resort to swearing and insults? Can't we debate without resorting to that? How about showing some respect, is that really so hard?

I done nothing wrong here.

Do you go to your job and swear at your workmate and boss? Do you do that to your family?

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There's no reason to be respectful to antivaxxers and anti maskers

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Will_VIIII posted...

There's no reason to be respectful to antivaxxers and anti maskers

Correct answer

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But can they infect other vaccinated people?

Will_VIIII posted...

There's no reason to be respectful to antivaxxers and anti maskers

I have done the double vaccines and as for the mask I thought it was good, until I suffered for those side effects.

I am not anti vaccine. Coincidentally I didn't feel any side effects from the vaccine.

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Will_VIIII posted...

There's no reason to be respectful to antivaxxers and anti maskers

apart from the fact that it shows character

ROOTFayth posted...

apart from the fact that it shows character

They're the reason this pandemic has been so prolonged and they're the reason herd immunity isn't possible.

I followed guidelines for 15 months which was necessary because if these idiots so no, they don't get respect.

My respect is easily given, disrespect is earned.

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WingsOfGood posted...

Avoid infection not just hospitalization!

The conveyor belt the goalposts are on shows no sign of slowing down I see.

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Will_VIIII posted...

They're the reason this pandemic has been so prolonged and they're the reason herd immunity isn't possible.

I followed guidelines for 15 months which was necessary because if these idiots so no, they don't get respect.

My respect is easily given, disrespect is earned.

all I'm saying is it's very easy to respect your friends, it takes more character to respect your enemies

Stay away from people

make it 10 feet

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Omg its Covid. This will be here forever so buckle in folks.

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I am moving my stuff. I wish I could avoid exposure. It is hot and humid and I have low grade something infection. I just need to muddle on.

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sabrestorm posted...

But can they infect other vaccinated people?

Yes

WingsOfGood posted...

???
You only hang around vaccinated people because they are just as likely to infect you with delta as the unvaccinated?

What

@Letron_James

I have been vacced for months, and I already got the virus in the begginning of 2020.

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Anti-vaxxers have earned every ounce of disrespect shown to them, and even more
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WingsOfGood posted...

So that means you don't need a mask, you done your part blah blah, you gonna go out infect others and get cognitive decline?

Mask up, don't act in a way that would make you called a dumbass.

@WingsOfGood

Lol that wasn't what I was saying.

I was merely acknowledging that dumbasses gonna be dumbasses and use backwards ass logic

ROOTFayth posted...

all I'm saying is it's very easy to respect your friends, it takes more character to respect your enemies

I consider neo nazis my enemies.

Why would I respect them in any way?

Same sentiment applies to anti vaxxers and anti maskers

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I don't think there's any way to say cognitive decline is permanent if covid has only been around since December of 2019.

I heard post-viral syndrome from other viruses can cause that as well, is it permanent in those cases?