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Yeah that was the weakest case in SoJ but just seeing Maya again made it great for me.

We inch ever closer.

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No, I think that user mean SoJ-3, which I remember had to do with a shrine on top of a mountain? And I think Maya was channeling someone? And the guy ran up to Maya holding a knife so that he could commit suicide while making it seem that Maya killed him?

6-3 was great though. Phoenix getting a Guilty for the first time since 2-4 and 1-4, Maya channeling a dude for the first time, the VICTIM being the culprit, it being a suicide to cover up self-defense, emotional ending and lots of character development for Rayfa. The first day was admittedly dull but the second day is one of the most loaded second days in the series that isn't from a final case.

When your game goes from 10/10 to 11/10

*MAJOR FINAL CASE SPOILERS*

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6-3 was a top tier case, and I'm surprised to see it getting hate.

AA6 in general was really good. It felt like a good return to form after 4 and 5 both had some flaws.

dotsdfe posted...

6-3 was a top tier case, and I'm surprised to see it getting hate.

AA6 in general was really good. It felt like a good return to form after 4 and 5 both had some flaws.

I really loved AA6. Wasn't without flaws, but it felt very fresh and imo successfully pulled off its attempt to raise the stakes for the characters.

The game's most traditional trial, Case 2, I really loved too. Felt like I'd been through the ringer by the end of it.

I don't think there's a single case in SoJ I like other than the civil trial portion of the final case. And even that is marred by them being unwilling to give Phoenix development and just have him do what lawyers do. Even after all these years he has to be blackmailed into it

I just think the whole game is an act of desperation. An attempt to one up everything before it rather than be compelling due to its narrative and how it plays with established conventions of the franchise. Dual Destinies is pretty weak, and stupid, and the animations are offputting, and it introduced a worthless character in Athena, but at least the space center concept and characters are fun as hell to traverse through and Turnabout Academy is genuinely one of my favourite cases of the franchise. Klavier is well-used. He doesn't feel shoved in there for the sake of variety like Blackquill does in SoJ4. It genuinely feels from the heart the way the prosecutor cameo is handled. The phantom is a weak villain, sure, but how it ties in with Fulbright himself I think is pretty great. Was a real backstab to realize that such a likeable character was a dickcheese.

The last thing the franchise needed was to not only bring back the spirit medium nonsense, but also to make that nonsense the foundation of the game with even more dumb lore behind it. Until then I felt the franchise had firmly left spirit channeling behind as something that it wouldn't be ashamed of, but definitely belonged to the past. We also could have used a prosecutor whose gimmick isn't simply being an asshole. I never thought Franziska could ever stop being the worst prosecutor they ever came up with. Well done Capcom, I guess.

But mostly it just does the same thing Dual Destinies does and does nothing with Phoenix. He's there. He's being Phoenix. Nothing happens with his character. It sucked in DD, but it becomes worse the more games they tack on to the end of it. Apollo Justice wasn't great, but each of these sequels that just goes "hey you want more Phoenix Wright being the same doofy doof with no attempt at characterization beyond the quirks you know and love, even though they rmake no sense now that he has two decades of experience behind him, right?", they really make AJ retroactively a better game. Not a good game, but at least it does SOMETHING. Mostly something bad, but something bad is better than repeated nothing, this franchise has started to teach me. Honestly the best thing the series could do at this point was have Apollo take over main character duties from Phoenix and I dunno, give him a 7th backstory or something. But no, seriously, give him some actual development of his belief systems the way Phoenix have had and give him some ethical or ideological challenges to see how he tackles them. And get the fucking Trucy thing out of the way. Have Phoenix take on a mentor role like he was supposed to have had in AJ rather than the puppetmaster he was. Throw him a pity case to solve on his own, maybe have him in investigation segments with his magatama.

But the way SoJ ended it seems like Apollo will be relegated to the Blackquill cameo of the next game and we're stuck with Phoenix and... ugh... Athena.

Regarding SoJ, I just wanted to add that Paul Atishon is great. Possibly my favorite minor character in the entire series.

I never liked Spirit Channeling much in the trilogy. It cheapened death, makes it kind of weird that so many clients lives are at stake even though there's almost a near-perfect weapon to catch murderers, and Mia has to be a deus ex machina to bail Phoenix out in almost every case.
That said, I actually liked the dance of devotion in 6 because it's actually used as evidence that all sides can use and isn't just something personal for Phoenix's group.

Lets gooooo

500 looms nigh!
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Have a Maria

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Gorey the GOAT

Spidey5 posted...

Have a Maria

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gahh

She is scary the first time you see her

https://youtu.be/YZoPWi5GBk8

If anyone likes GAA streams, a streamer that I like has been going through the series for the first time blind on stream. It's a silly time, but it's a lot of fun, and I always enjoy seeing people experience the games for the first time.

Ooh interesting.

dotsdfe posted...

https://youtu.be/YZoPWi5GBk8

If anyone likes GAA streams, a streamer that I like has been going through the series for the first time blind on stream. It's a silly time, but it's a lot of fun, and I always enjoy seeing people experience the games for the first time.

How experienced with the AA series are they?

GiftedACIII posted...

How experienced with the AA series are they?

He's beaten all of the mainline AAs, but not the Investigations games. Not sure about his co-host.

For what it's worth, they generally stream on Tuesday nights.

so close now

Yay I'm glad it was a big success!

Yeah I just saw that on Reddit. Awesome.

How has this topic not maxed out yet?

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From the Ace Attorney Facebook page:

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Hopefully this means we'll finally be getting more AAs.

More AAs!

Crapcom still has not localized Miles Edgeworth 2

They should just ask permission from the fan translation to use them.

Topic Death.