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Blue_Popo
07/14/21 7:01:38 AM
#101:


1NfamousACE_2 posted...
31st century

Ah sorry, I rewatched and thought he said the 30s

I really need to stop staying up until 3am for these
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SomeLikeItHoth
07/14/21 7:02:03 AM
#102:


Blue_Popo posted...
Ah sorry, I rewatched and thought he said the 30s

I really need to stop staying up until 3am for these
Same. I thought he said 13th century.

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jumi
07/14/21 7:16:01 AM
#103:


That wasn't even the most satisfying MCU thing of the last 24 hours. That would be the Deadpool and Korg trailer review.

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indica
07/14/21 7:25:50 AM
#104:


Interesting how we had two actors from Lovecraft County in the show. They were both awesome too. Especially Immortus--his character was so different than the one on LC.

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indica
07/14/21 7:27:00 AM
#105:


jumi posted...
That wasn't even the most satisfying MCU thing of the last 24 hours. That would be the Deadpool and Korg trailer review.
I think they're trolling...

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jumi
07/14/21 7:31:41 AM
#106:


indica posted...
I think they're trolling...

No, I can assure you I am not.

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indica
07/14/21 7:51:59 AM
#107:


jumi posted...
No, I can assure you I am not.
No, not you, Ryan Reynolds and Taika Watiti

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DKJ
07/14/21 8:02:55 AM
#108:


This is like a Lost finale lol. Multiple cliffhangers, lore expansion, some answers, lots of setup and little resolution.

It's a tough one to rate being one big conversation but I enjoyed it.

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TetsuoS2
07/14/21 8:08:05 AM
#109:


Yep, it wasn't Loki at all.

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Darmik
07/14/21 8:45:31 AM
#110:


Woah. Really excited to see how all of this plays out. I wonder if Strange and Spidey will even find out about Kang or just have to deal with a messy timeline crossovers.

I'm really interested to see how Ant-Man ends up having to be the one to defend the prime timeline from Kang.

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pegusus123456
07/14/21 8:48:53 AM
#111:


Darmik posted...
I'm really interested to see how Ant-Man ends up having to be the one to defend the prime timeline from Kang.

I'd bet money that he doesn't fight THE Kang, just a variant.
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1NfamousACE_2
07/14/21 8:56:12 AM
#112:


pegusus123456 posted...
I'd bet money that he doesn't fight THE Kang, just a variant.

they will all fight variants

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Medussa
07/14/21 8:57:57 AM
#113:


at this point, real and variant have lost most of their meaning. things are going to get real fucky, real fast. and it'll be glorious.

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pikachupwnage
07/14/21 9:01:15 AM
#114:


pegusus123456 posted...
I'd bet money that he doesn't fight THE Kang, just a variant.

It's possible Kang isn't directly confronting him or That he fucking dies

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CableZL
07/14/21 9:12:23 AM
#115:


So, from what I'm reading... The one that Loki and Sylvie encountered in this episode was Immortus. And then Sylvie sent Loki to either a different timeline or a different point in time and the statue he saw was of Kang.

I think.

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soulunison2
07/14/21 9:13:45 AM
#116:


Lots of underlying misogyny in this topic wtf
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Medussa
07/14/21 9:17:43 AM
#117:


CableZL posted...
The one that Loki and Sylvie encountered in this episode was Immortus.

definitely, if we were talking about the comic versions. still probably, but the MCU/MCM people aren't above changing things when they need to.

CableZL posted...
And then Sylvie sent Loki to either a different timeline or a different point in time

this'll probably get answered pretty quickly in S2, if not one of the movies in between. but the obvious implication is a different version of Kang made or remade the tva in his fashion. the agents we saw before this moment may have had their entire timelines rewritten, or there might now be many Mobii running around in the TVA offices.

CableZL posted...
and the statue he saw was of Kang.

yes.

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CableZL
07/14/21 9:17:54 AM
#118:


Also, what's the deal with the white letters and numbers shown in the last part?

MSL
DHF
TE7
TSY
372

Any special meaning to those?

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Medussa
07/14/21 9:19:37 AM
#119:


CableZL posted...
Also, what's the deal with the white letters and numbers shown in the last part?

MSL
DHF
TE7
TSY
372

Any special meaning to those?

probably some easter eggs. but in universe? i don't think they've been explained yet. they were there the whole time, but they're different at the end.

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Xethuminra
07/14/21 9:20:35 AM
#120:


Medussa posted...
probably some easter eggs. but in universe? i don't think they've been explained yet. they were there the whole time, but they're different at the end.
Thats interesting
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RaulJenkins
07/14/21 9:38:29 AM
#121:


if that's the actor they chose to play Kang then I'm already disinterested. wasn't feeling the vibe. to be fair I know nothing about him so maybe that's his general demeanor but his presence felt so underwhelming compared to someone like Thanos or Ultron, or even Hela (I know, they just introduced him, so give it time). His charisma wasn't really doing much for me either

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Medussa
07/14/21 9:45:58 AM
#122:


at the risk of seriously responding to potential bait, this is just one version of the character. there should be many more to come. and each one should be different. this one in particular has spent untold time alone. of course he's going to be a little on the eccentric side.


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g0ldie
07/14/21 9:46:00 AM
#123:


^ I looked up the character, and if it turns out to be true, then he's Immortus, who's Kang from the far future, who has this history of doing all these terrible things, and isn't quite the same person at that point.

like, he has remorse, regret, a sense of responsibility, etc., and comes in conflict with his past self in the comics, so I feel like the Kang we'll see later on will have an entirely different demeanor.

edit: at post 121

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TurtleInFreedom
07/14/21 9:55:58 AM
#124:


I don't understand the last scene. Isn't the TVA supposed to be in a unique plane of existence where they could only be only one of it? If there were multiple TVAs it would mean that there are multiple Kangs who wanted peace. But Kang just declared that he was the only one that was keeping the multiverse from going wack. Or maybe the one male Loki was sent to was a lower level TVA?
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Sticky_Derp
07/14/21 9:58:19 AM
#125:


I was definitely thrown by his attitude, but I believe the actor to be very capable, and even this version... well, I was scared he would turn for the first like third of the conversation. Any moment I felt he could've killed them and laughed it off.

I'm super excited to see him play a more malicious or bloodthirsty Kang. I'm sure he'll be terrifying.

Anyway, I liked the episode. It was anticlimactic, but Loki, the title character, ended at a good point for his arc. The second season might follow Sylvie more, because she still has plenty of room to grow. But the way it wrapped up for Loki is super thematically consistent. It's not even perfect for him, but he faced a lot of forced self-reflection, and so he reflects and considers more.

Like, the way he ended up as much more amiable and mature was a great, sensible, well-developed progression.

I might write an essay on it. Like, I think Loki is now possibly the most realistic, relatable character in the whole MCU??? He grew a lot when forced to self-reflect. It was so genuine. That's how it is for people too, but so many just... don't.

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lolife67
07/14/21 9:58:52 AM
#126:


TurtleInFreedom posted...
I don't understand the last scene. Isn't the TVA supposed to be in a unique plane of existence where they could only be only one of it? If there were multiple TVAs it would mean that there are multiple Kangs who wanted peace. But Kang just declared that he was the only one that was keeping the multiverse from going wack. Or maybe the one male Loki was sent to was a lower level TVA?
There WAS only 1 TVA when HWR was in charge. Killing him opened up the Multiverse, thus creating the possibility of a new TVA being formed.
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CableZL
07/14/21 10:00:31 AM
#127:


TurtleInFreedom posted...
I don't understand the last scene. Isn't the TVA supposed to be in a unique plane of existence where they could only be only one of it? If there were multiple TVAs it would mean that there are multiple Kangs who wanted peace. But Kang just declared that he was the only one that was keeping the multiverse from going wack. Or maybe the one male Loki was sent to was a lower level TVA?

Immortus explained that many of his variants wanted peace, but not all of his variants were so pure of heart. I'm guessing that means each variant that wanted peace isolated their own timelines in a similar manner to keep their timelines away from the ones who wanted war. I think it's unclear if Loki was sent to a different timeline altogether or a different point in time when Immortus was Kang.

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Sticky_Derp
07/14/21 10:01:48 AM
#128:


TurtleInFreedom posted...
I don't understand the last scene. Isn't the TVA supposed to be in a unique plane of existence where they could only be only one of it? If there were multiple TVAs it would mean that there are multiple Kangs who wanted peace. But Kang just declared that he was the only one that was keeping the multiverse from going wack. Or maybe the one male Loki was sent to was a lower level TVA?

The TVA could easily be a place with much more malicious purposes.

But, since Loki was sent there before the kill, and people didn't start hustling around until after, it seems like the TVA we knew was taken over by a worse Kang.

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Medussa
07/14/21 10:02:48 AM
#129:


i'm pretty sure he went back right to where he had been. it's all of history that changed in the meantime.

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Akagami_Shanks
07/14/21 10:03:57 AM
#130:


TurtleInFreedom posted...
I don't understand the last scene. Isn't the TVA supposed to be in a unique plane of existence where they could only be only one of it? If there were multiple TVAs it would mean that there are multiple Kangs who wanted peace. But Kang just declared that he was the only one that was keeping the multiverse from going wack. Or maybe the one male Loki was sent to was a lower level TVA?
The entire point is that now they're a multiverse, there is no singular TVA now. That's why mobius and B15 are there like nothing happened and the building doesn't look in disarray. Loki was sent to another timeline

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TurtleInFreedom
07/14/21 10:13:46 AM
#131:


Akagami_Shanks posted...
The entire point is that now they're a multiverse, there is no singular TVA now. That's why mobius and B15 are there like nothing happened and the building doesn't look in disarray. Loki was sent to another timeline

So... there would be one TVA per universe, to keep the order of the timeline, but only one Kang overseeing the sacred timeline universe and the entirety of all the other universe's TVAs? Or are there other Kangs looking over other TVAs in their respective universes, but the Kang that was just killed was the supreme Kang that looked over them all?

Okay now I'm legit confused. The mechanics and setting of this new MCU phase is confusing af.
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RchHomieQuanChi
07/14/21 10:16:47 AM
#132:


Remember when people said it wouldn't be Kang despite literally everything pointing towards him

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Medussa
07/14/21 10:18:24 AM
#133:


RchHomieQuanChi posted...
Remember when people said it wouldn't be Kang despite literally everything pointing towards him

probably just "fool me once"ing after nophisto

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Buu_88
07/14/21 10:24:48 AM
#134:


TurtleInFreedom posted...
So... there would be one TVA per universe, to keep the order of the timeline, but only one Kang overseeing the sacred timeline universe and the entirety of all the other universe's TVAs? Or are there other Kangs looking over other TVAs in their respective universes, but the Kang that was just killed was the supreme Kang that looked over them all?

Okay now I'm legit confused. The mechanics and setting of this new MCU phase is confusing af.

It was already said in a previous post that Immortus (the Kang that we saw) explained that many of his variants wanted peace, but not all of his variants were so pure of heart. I'm guessing that means each variant that wanted peace isolated their own timelines in a similar manner to keep their timelines away from the ones who wanted war. So now that this Kang died, this universe isn't protected from the evil Kang's

I think

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lolife67
07/14/21 10:26:05 AM
#135:


I didn't think it would be Kang because I didn't see them introducing a new character in the final episode and making it work. I was completely wrong and underestimated the writers/actors. They did it and made it work perfectly!
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Akagami_Shanks
07/14/21 10:35:30 AM
#136:


TurtleInFreedom posted...
So... there would be one TVA per universe, to keep the order of the timeline, but only one Kang overseeing the sacred timeline universe and the entirety of all the other universe's TVAs? Or are there other Kangs looking over other TVAs in their respective universes, but the Kang that was just killed was the supreme Kang that looked over them all?

Okay now I'm legit confused. The mechanics and setting of this new MCU phase is confusing af.
the TVA itself when under Immortus is almighty. There is only a single one. Immortus warned of the chaos that would ensue should he die. The timeline changed which is why there is now a statue of Kang instead of the timekeepers, signifying the TVA Loki was sent to is under an evil Kang. The idea is that each timeline made their own TVA, no Kang came out on top like the sacred timeline

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BLAKUboy
07/14/21 10:36:08 AM
#137:


Certainly a bold choice to have your season finale be a single nearly uninterrupted exposition dump. And it still somehow ends up with more questions than answers.

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DrizztLink
07/14/21 10:48:56 AM
#138:


Medussa posted...
so... we might have just watched the most important 35 minutes in the entire franchise.
I was thinking that it's quite literally impossible to have higher stakes.

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IMNOTRAGED
07/14/21 11:29:29 AM
#139:


Almost forgot, I appreciate the random Miss Minutes jump scare. Really got me

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CableZL
07/14/21 11:48:08 AM
#140:


IMNOTRAGED posted...
Almost forgot, I appreciate the random Miss Minutes jump scare. Really got me
I really liked Miss Minutes in this show overall. IMO, she was surprisingly menacing at the end there. I want an origin story for Miss Minutes, lol.

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Maninstagnate
07/14/21 12:13:35 PM
#141:


I believe if they stick with all this time travel and multiverse plot points for too long it be the thing that would kill the MCU. Every series that had them quickly dissolved fast.
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Questionmarktarius
07/14/21 12:19:30 PM
#142:


Maninstagnate posted...
Every series that had them quickly dissolved fast.
Doctor Who disagrees
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Medussa
07/14/21 12:22:41 PM
#143:


Maninstagnate posted...
I believe if they stick with all this time travel and multiverse plot points for too long it be the thing that would kill the MCU. Every series that had them quickly dissolved fast.

i think they're going to keep most of the over the top stuff to a few self-contained movies. the rest will only have the established crossover stuff. it's just now those crossovers have more options to draw from.

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BLAKUboy
07/14/21 12:23:01 PM
#144:


This really makes me wonder what the original plan for Phase 4 was, since MoM was initially going to be before Loki. So what was Doctor Strange dealing with if Loki hadn't opened the multiverse yet? Or were we supposed to go into Loki knowing the entire point was opening the multiverse?

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Questionmarktarius
07/14/21 12:24:28 PM
#145:


BLAKUboy posted...
since MoM was initially going to be before Loki.
It's safe to assume that MCU has abandoned linear narrative now.
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Geiki Ganger
07/14/21 12:34:00 PM
#146:


I guess the scenes with King Loki from the trailers were another misdirection by Marvel?

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07/14/21 12:54:23 PM
#147:


This episode: What if Willy Wonka did his tour and at the end, Charlie murdered Wonka and let the Oompa Loompas out to cause terror and chaos
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PatrickMahomes
07/14/21 1:45:19 PM
#148:


I'm fine with shows being used to set up future bigger picture MCU implications, but the show doesn't have to suck as a result.

This episode was a hair better because Kangmortus was a fun character and basically carried the episode....

But man the show as a whole is like, slightly better than F&WS, if only because it had a wandavision-style "mystery" to keep me interested.

There was just so much filler, so much unnecessary dialogue, so many dragged out scenes... the show honestly could've been five episodes, maybe even four.

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DrizztLink
07/14/21 1:47:12 PM
#149:


Derwood posted...
This episode: What if Willy Wonka did his tour and at the end, Charlie murdered Wonka and let the Oompa Loompas out to cause terror and chaos
Come with me

And you'll be

In a world of multiverse annihilation

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CableZL
07/14/21 1:47:50 PM
#150:


BLAKUboy posted...
This really makes me wonder what the original plan for Phase 4 was, since MoM was initially going to be before Loki. So what was Doctor Strange dealing with if Loki hadn't opened the multiverse yet? Or were we supposed to go into Loki knowing the entire point was opening the multiverse?

Couldn't MoM still be set before the events of Loki? Black Widow was set before Infinity War, right?

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