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NeonOctopus
07/12/21 10:14:54 PM
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If you don't know, it's a hard optional fight where you can only fight this guy with Sheena. Sheena is without a doubt the worst party member in Tales of Symphonia and is hard to control. Her attacks are slow as fuck, have a wonky range, and don't do a lot of damage >_> She's mostly a debuffer with an occasional super strong attack that she can use once every 30 years. You also can't cheese this fight with items, so you're pretty much fucked unless you grinded Sheena silly >_>

I love Sheena both as a character and for her glorious rack, but fuck this fight lol

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Irony
07/12/21 10:15:22 PM
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It's not great

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BLAKUboy
07/12/21 10:18:50 PM
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This is one of those fights where you're technically supposed to wait until you get 10x Exp and then just cheese by being overleveled.

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NeonOctopus
07/12/21 10:21:22 PM
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Ivynn
07/12/21 10:28:17 PM
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NeonOctopus posted...
unless you grinded Sheena silly

Nice

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OwlRammer
07/12/21 10:28:33 PM
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NeonOctopus posted...
Sheena is without a doubt the worst party member in Tales of Symphonia and is hard to control.
Yeah only if you don't have the right touch like I did

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yusiko
07/12/21 10:28:51 PM
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genis is the worst party member
not sheena
but she is barely better than him but she is the second fastest party member only outspeeded by Llyod
her attacks main issue is that they dont combo well and her better tecs tend to end in a knockdown ending any combo before they can really get started which hurts her melee capabilities

if you are playing on ps3 or steam they do let you customize the characters a bit more and there is now a decent summoner sheena build that can make her more useful than she originally was

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Starks
07/12/21 10:30:22 PM
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Genis main reporting in
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Bio1590
07/12/21 10:32:05 PM
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I beat that fight the first time in my original playthrough when I was 13 >____>
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yusiko
07/12/21 10:32:53 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
I beat that fight the first time in my original playthrough when I was 13 >____>


its easier when you use both hands to control her
somethign neon is incapable of doing

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HylianFox
07/12/21 10:34:58 PM
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it is kinda BS but I don't recall it being all that difficult, either

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QueenCarly
07/12/21 10:35:50 PM
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NeonOctopus posted...
Sheena is without a doubt the worst party member in Tales of Symphonia

Can't believe someone could be this wrong

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Antifar
07/12/21 10:39:06 PM
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The fight I remember really kicking my ass was the lightning elemental

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Compsognathus
07/12/21 10:45:21 PM
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I feel like I just stun locked him with...Power Seal? I dunno it has been like a decade.

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xXfireglzXx
07/12/21 10:46:53 PM
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Compsognathus posted...
I feel like I just stun locked him with...Power Seal? I dunno it has been like a decade.

Yeah, this works on Normal and hard IIRC.

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Starks
07/12/21 10:47:57 PM
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I remember when an Abyssion fight took an hour on mania mode
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Umbreon
07/12/21 10:50:03 PM
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Honestly I never had trouble with this fight, but that may have to do with me unironically enjoying playing as her.

My tip is to have Sheena be near overlimit before the fight starts. Getting the speed boost as Sylph is nice for avoiding his attacks. (Or use Volt to be cruel)

For me it was a lot of Auto Auto Auto, Power-Life-Demon Seal.

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Umbreon
07/12/21 10:52:13 PM
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That said yeah, Sheena lacking good combo finishers is awful. Knockdowns are bad for keeping up the damage, and her techs aren't powerful like Presea's Beast to make up for it.

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PatrickMahomes
07/12/21 10:55:00 PM
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not DPS, just fun to play ranking

Regal > Lloyd > Zelos > Kratos > Presea > Colette > Genis > Raine > Sheena

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CruelBuffalo
07/12/21 11:01:56 PM
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I was the mage when i played with my cousin
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NeonOctopus
07/12/21 11:52:27 PM
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NeonOctopus
07/12/21 11:55:50 PM
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NeonOctopus posted...


What do you think happens after this, CE? >___________>


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ChocoboMog123
07/13/21 12:23:37 AM
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I haven't played ToS in forever. Doesn't Sheena have an easy infinite?

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PatrickMahomes
07/13/21 9:58:17 AM
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ChocoboMog123 posted...
I haven't played ToS in forever. Doesn't Sheena have an easy infinite?
yeah she can spell cancel but cheesing isn't as fun

and i think they patched spell canceling in the PS3 version

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NeonOctopus
07/13/21 12:08:51 PM
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Finally beat her, I summoned Undine cuz she heals Sheena, but she completely missed her attack >_> But somehow I managed to land enough combos to defeat him

Fuck this duel. You get a weapon but the joke weapon I bought at Luin is much better >_>

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NeonOctopus
07/13/21 4:12:14 PM
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Compsognathus
07/13/21 4:48:15 PM
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NeonOctopus posted...
Finally beat her, I summoned Undine cuz she heals Sheena, but she completely missed her attack >_> But somehow I managed to land enough combos to defeat him

Fuck this duel. You get a weapon but the joke weapon I bought at Luin is much better >_>
It always bothers me when random weapons, especially joke weapons, are notably stronger than like story important ones. It isn't as bad as Sheena, but Lloyd and the Material Blades...you might use those for like 30 minutes before they are outclassed.

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kirbymuncher
07/13/21 4:51:14 PM
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NeonOctopus posted...
unless you grinded Sheena silly >_>

<_<

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dameon_reaper
07/13/21 4:56:14 PM
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I remember getting to max level around disc 1 where my step brother and I just hung around some beach and kept fighting.
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NeonOctopus
07/13/21 5:12:00 PM
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Yeah the Material Blades are cool as shit, but they're not even in the Top 5 strongest weapons for Lloyd lol

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ThePieReborn
07/13/21 5:15:03 PM
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I'm of the mind that the 70 extra thrust damage for 30 less slash damage plus Falcon's Crest puts the Material Blades aboves the Fans.

Which, incidentally, puts them at number 5 when accounting for Nebilim.

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