Current Events > Whatever happened to Anita Sarkisian?

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M_Live posted...

Not gonna quote the whole post but I do however completely agree with this. Incel hardcore gamer neckbeards are some of the worst types of people; those types who would send death and/or rape threats to somebody because they're a feminist or disagree with the content of the games they like really need to get a firm grip on reality

It still happens today. Actors and devs of TLOU2 got death threats, as did the devs of Cyberpunk

Probably a lot more than that lol, those are just the two I can think of off the top of my head

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Broseph_Stalin posted...

she randomly popped up on my twitter feed the other day getting dunked on for some dumb shit she said about climate change lol

I went to go look for it

https://twitter.com/anitasarkeesian/status/1412516871039897601

I don't care about her gender stuff, but fuck this. All of our choices matter.

There's more to that thread but apparently I don't know how to post a twitter thread.

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That take is worse than any of her video game takes, as its actually harmful rhetoric lol

But I dont think itll get nearly as much hate for some reason

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Philoktetes posted...

this is fatphobia

No, it's pointing out hypocrisy. They claim to be against unrealistic depictions of women in video games, then use unrealistic depictions of themself. Also, what Tyranthraxus said.

I have no opinion of her one way or the other, but I really, really hate "gamers". The ones who make it their entire personality and are the ones who get angry at women and tend to be incel-ish.

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i thought Boogie ate her or something...

ssjevot posted...

The only thing I remember having some merit against her was that Bayonetta review where she said a bunch of stuff that wasn't true, but she took the video down, so clearly she knew it was a mistake. Most complaints just seemed really mad she was analyzing games in a way people didn't like. People analyze a lot of media in a lot of ways. You can still enjoy media no matter how people are analyzing it. It's okay.

Her Hitman video was also full of bs

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EndOfDiscOne posted...

I don't care about her gender stuff, but fuck this. All of our choices matter.

There's more to that thread but apparently I don't know how to post a twitter thread.

Yeah this is an ignorant thing to say about climate change. Corporations have long since provided eco-friendly options and we have elected not to use them. The only industry where you can blame it exclusively on corporate is the energy industry.

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Pandamonic posted...

Who cares

Nobody. And they'll keep making topic after topic to show just how much they don't care.

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ShineboxPhil posted...

Lol

I think the pics are a little too ugly on purpose, but they are def closer than the ones above

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Tyranthraxus posted...

Corporations have long since provided eco-friendly options and we have elected not to use them.

Two questions.

1. What are some examples of these "options"?
2. Why do you think "we have elected not to use them"?

Also Mallard otherwise got this topic in one.

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CyricZ posted...

Two questions.
1. What are some examples of these "options"?
2. Why do you think "we have elected not to use them"?
Also Mallard otherwise got this topic in one.

1. Full EVs, meat substitutes (or just more vegetables, or hell even just not beef), solar roofs, and lots of other things but those 3 things address some of our biggest carbon footprint issues.
2. Convenience, selfishness, marketing propaganda, and the general false belief that individuals aren't responsible.

Now sure you're going to point out about how you saw a Tesla yesterday and that you grilled up the impossible burger for 4th of July or some shit but you know as well as everyone else the market penetration for these products is tiny compared to the pollutant products.

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Tyranthraxus posted...

marketing propaganda

Look at that one. Look at that one real hard.

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CyricZ posted...

Look at that one. Look at that one real hard.

Okay now what

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Just because some eco-friendly options are offered still doesn't work if it isn't the norm. Archaic and pollutant-based models and services are still the most primarily used because they're still made to be the cheap and accessible options for the consumer, and that's the fault of the manufacturers.

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Hayame Zero posted...

Just because some eco-friendly options are offered still doesn't work if it isn't the norm. Archaic and pollutant-based models and services are still the most primarily used because they're still made to be the cheap and accessible options for the consumer, and that's the fault of the manufacturers.

I don't understand how is it the fault of the manufacturers if we aren't buying them.

That's like blaming the salad for being too far away after you've eaten every donut in arms reach.

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The corporations who have been the worst polluters have a vested interest in making sure that they continue to push the products into the consumers hands through their marketing propaganda. Mostly because those options are cheaper, because of other elements of the market looking to go on the cheap.

Furthermore, governments are not stepping up in regulation to establish these needed changes, themselves also beholden to corporate interests.

Holding individuals accountable is the tiniest drop in the bucket when it comes to green. It has to happen at the beginning, or else nothing the end user does will make a lick of difference.

Tyranthraxus posted...

That's like blaming the salad for being too far away after you've eaten every donut in arms reach.

The salad is not too far away. It's locked in a cage that you pay to open. It's also pushed under the table in the corner while the donuts are in easy access and have massive flashing arrows pointing to them.

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CyricZ posted...

Holding individuals accountable is the tiniest drop in the bucket when it comes to green. It has to happen at the beginning, or else nothing the end user does will make a lick of difference.

First of all individuals are not "the tiniest drop" in the bucket. Massive massive amounts of pollution comes from individuals driving cars & eating beef, which creates the demand for beef which creates the worst of the agricultural pollutants. Other types of meat like poultry don't have the issue beef has. If you just stopped both of those things (full EV penetration and zero beef diet) you'd see a dramatic improvement to climate.

There's a reason why AOC's "cow extinction" became a meme. Beef was singled out in her climate memo because of how bad it is. But it's not corporations eating all that beef. It's us.

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Okay I'm backing down. I looked up a response to the popular "100 companies, 71% emissions" report from a few years back, and it tore it up, so fair game.

Fact is we can still leverage governments to implement new standards starting at the corporations, but an equally effective strategy is not buying what they're selling, and history tracks that.

We're still not in a great place for people in this country to all buy EV, or use PT.

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CyricZ posted...

Okay I'm backing down. I looked up a response to the popular "100 companies, 71% emissions" report from a few years back, and it tore it up, so fair game.

Fact is we can still leverage governments to implement new standards starting at the corporations, but an equally effective strategy is not buying what they're selling, and history tracks that.

We're still not in a great place for people in this country to all buy EV, or use PT.

It's a sort of cyclical feedback loop. There's no demand so there's no infrastructure being built to facilitate demand so people don't demand the infrastructure and then they don't want the product because there's no infrastructure etc etc.

I'm gonna need to replace my roof soon. A solar panel roof is only slightly more expensive but I can't do it unless my entire unit does it and even if they all agree the HOA has to approve it for the whole neighborhood and then they will be obligated to do it so the people who don't want to do it will vote it down.

Government regulations can help but they move as slow as molasses. Local politics move faster but it's hard to get politicians to care about issues at this level and then only other option is to run one's self and then you give up your current life to run a race you might lose.

It's easy to solve climate change from an engineering perspective, the socio-political & economic aspects keep getting in the way.

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